Planned Parenthood response to sex trafficking sting shows institutional corruption at highest levels
Planned Parenthood issued an entirely inadequate statement yesterday in response to Live Action’s release of a 2nd video exposing PP as a sanctuary for sex traffickers and an obstacle for sex slaves in desperate need of help.
The statement merely demonstrated endemic corruption at PP’s highest levels of a willingness to aid and abet sex traffickers. From PP’s presser:
In this morning’s publicized tape, the Planned Parenthood staff member reacted professionally to a highly unusual person posing as a patient. After the encounter, the staff member immediately notified her supervisor, who subsequently notified members of PP’s national security team, who are working with the FBI, which is investigating these visits.
No. First, it’s easy but unprovable to claim the staff member caught on tape “immediately notified her supervisor.” Does it ring true that she would advise a sex trafficker on how to keep his girls in tip top shape for unimpeded forced prostitution, let him walk out the door – and then tell her boss?
And I’d sure like to know the timing of PP’s contacts to the FBI. PP CEO Cecile Richards’ initial statement to the press last week made clear it was only when PP put the pieces together that a sex trafficker was pitching the same story to PPs all over the country that it contacted the FBI, quoting the Associated Press:
Last week… Richards wrote to Attorney General Eric Holder summarizing the visits and requesting an FBI investigation.
At any rate, here should have been the correct response, as Lila Rose wrote:
“It is utterly disgusting that Planned Parenthood’s response to this is that their employee reacted ‘professionally,’” said… Rose. “The only acceptable response to encountering a self-identified sex-trafficker of underage girls is zero tolerance. The only ‘professional’ response is to immediately call law enforcement to the scene and push for an arrest. Our investigation – and their response – continues to show that an institutional crisis has engulfed the highest levels of PP. If you’re a sex-trafficker of minors or young women, you have a partner in PP. But if you are a minor or a young woman, you are not safe at PP clinics.”
[Graphic via Say Hello to my Little Friend]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Does it ring true that she would advise a sex trafficker on how to keep his girls in tip top shape for unimpeded forced prostitution, let him walk out the door – and then tell her boss?
Actually, yes. I’ve dealt with clients who were in some way — disturbing, and I would betray no suspicion or hostility until I had the potentially dangerous person out of my office, and could consult with my co-worker and my boss. Though I’d be far more non-committal than the PP women were. I’d be more, “That’s interesting. I’ll have to do some research on that.”
She did all that and then they fired her for following procedure? Yeah, right.
I guess we should not be surprised that an organization of ruthless child killers would have a problem of widespread moral corruption.
Jill, thanks for keeping us informed on this. I’ve been getting links about this, but they are far too inadequate with their information. I really want to look in to this. I can’t believe (well, actually yes I can) that feminists are willing to throw under-aged sex slaves under the bus to save their death factories. It’s disgusting.
Just heard on fox news that PP is asking for an investigation of the pimp!
I just got through listeing to Abby Johnson being interviewed on Catholic Answers Live. She was fabulous! In answer to a belligerent caller who kept saying that the sex-trafficking sting could be proved to be a hoax, Abby revealed that the Planned Parenthood she worked at had a regular relationship with a prostitute who they would treat regularly and send back to her pimp!
This was a live radio interview but the recording will be available by Monday here.
http://www.catholic.com/radio/calendar.php
Sorry if this has already been posted here – have to get back to work.
I knew there was something fishy with PP’s claims to have reported this right away to the FBI. Yeah, right. Only after they figured out it was a sting.
“Does it ring true that she would advise a sex trafficker on how to keep his girls in tip top shape for unimpeded forced prostitution, let him walk out the door – and then tell her boss?”
As opposed to what? Tackling him?
Live Action’s “stings” have been purposely engineered to throw mud on PP no matter what their employees do when dealing with this fraud. I think that, as an organization, PP actually comes out looking better, not worse, in the aftermath of all of this, by showing that it takes heavy-handed, extremely dishonest ambush journalism tactics to even create the appearance of wrongdoing.
I think that, as an organization, PP actually comes out looking better, not worse, in the aftermath of all of this
Oops, sorry for interrupting Comedy Central, I was looking for Jill Stanek’s blog.
joan,
How about calling the police the minute he walked out the door? A real no brainer, ya think??
Lila couldn’t make PP look bad if there was nothing illegal going on, like covering up for sex traffickers.
“How about calling the police the minute he walked out the door? A real no brainer, ya think??”
Uh, no? PP’s first priority is providing reproductive health care. Calling the police could prevent that from happening, and could actually harm any potential prostitutes involved. Besides, if they can establish a rapport with that particular pimp and his prostitutes, that would put them in a much better position to responsibly involve the police.
@Joan–I’m sorry, but you really do need to rethink that. The manager in the NJ clinic not only advised them on what to do, to continue working after an abortion, but she also sent them to a different clinic which she knew is even more lax on legal compliance. And she made it clear to the actors that she did not wish it known that she was the one doing the referring.
That is more than sketchy, it is blatantly illegal.
As has been said, if PP is indeed playing by the book, then why did they fire her?
PP’s first priority is providing reproductive health care
Does PP have an exemption from mandated reporting laws that other health care providers are expected to follow?
Calling the police could prevent that from happening.
Not unless the girl was extremely uncooperative. The cops/cps will make sure the minor gets a medical screening and care.
if they can establish a rapport with that particular pimp and his prostitutes, that would put them in a much better position to responsibly involve the police
Enabling ongoing abuse while establishing rapport with the abuser is responsible, eh? Now I’ve heard it all.
How about calling the police the minute he walked out the door?
Mary, I heard somewhere today that one of the VA clinics did notify local law enforcement promptly. Not sure HOW promptly, but I’ll give credit where it’s due.
Oops, sorry for interrupting Comedy Central, I was looking for Jill Stanek’s blog
LOLOL :)
Hey Jill, I think you should call PP on another shyster move of theirs. In yesterday’s press release they claim that Lila Rose is a “self-described ‘extremist’.” They even cite a story from an April 2009 LA Times story to back it up.
But in that 2009 story Lila is not describing herself that way, she is saying that someone else has called her that. And it is quite clear that she is not taking the label as her own.
I mean, how sloppy can they be in their mendacity? This is pitiable.
Praxedes: ROFL!!
The focus continues to be on protecting PP more than protecting underage sex slaves. Incredible that people are still defending PP’s action in this case. Even prochoicers shouldn’t be afraid to question PP if it means more stringent protection for underage prostitutes.
I mean, don’t they care about protecting minors from abuse? Or just victims of men in priest collars!
PP was more concerned about reporting to their own and writing letters than reporting immediately, as is required by law. C’mon Joan, there’s a lot of steps in between tackling the pimp/slaver and calling PP headquarters. With the exception of one clinic (so far) in VA, there is no evidence these steps involving local authorities were taken.
PP’s answer was to send the pimp back to ”manage his girls”. Can you feel the level of protection and concern??? Sing it with me, Joan- “return to sender… address unknown”…
joan 7:40PM
PP didn’t provide care to the “prostitute”. The “pimp” only inquired about it then they left. Great opportunity to call the police. Again, a no brainer, ya think??
Also, care could be provided and the police called to arrest the pimp while the pimp is waiting or on his return to the clinic.
Hi Fed Up 7:51PM
Like you I will give credit where it is due. Thank you for the info.
I still haven’t watched the videos (I have an essay to work on for philosophy- hey ho there, Socrates), but more and more I hear that the Planned Parenthood employees contacted local law enforcement and worked with the FBI after the man left. To call the cops and raise a massive public alarm would actually have been a mistake: it would have discouraged predators from taking their victims in for treatment from now on. Because I didn’t see the video, I don’t know exactly what happened (I therefore bow to anyone’s greater knowledge), but I can say that if the Planned Parenthood worker had shrieked, “EVIL-DOER on the premises! EVIL-DOER!” while running around in circles, flailing her arms, she might have done a moral good for drawing negative attention to the man in question, but it would have been an unwise decision. Those girls, and other girls in their situations, need care and need a better world- a world where they have access to education, healthcare, safe and healthy relationships, and so on and so forth- and one of the ways that we might catch traffickers in the future is through a place like Planned Parenthood. There is a delicate way of going about catching traffickers, as ridiculous as it sounds- instantly putting them in lockdown is not that way.
Now, this is from an understanding that the employees, with the exception of one, followed procedure and contacted the necessary people. From what I’ve read in the news, the employee who failed to do so was let go.
Look- here’s the thing about Planned Parenthood. Hate them all that you want, but abortion is not the only service that they provide and making them out to be baby-hating mass murderers is counter-productive. I don’t mean to sound harsh- but this debate has raged on long enough. If they were involved in a sex trafficking cover-up, then I will join you in their condemnation, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
When it comes to pro-choicers, we’re better off trying to talk to them about what we have in common and what we can do together to remedy the situation for women and children throughout the country.
I, for one, consider Planned Parenthood on my list of Yin and Yang: people who do good and evil, which is basically a human thing: good and evil. Good: healthcare, birth control, cost effectiveness. Bad: abortion. For the time being, let’s work to spread the good and try and work with our friends to reduce the bad (and, by friends, I mean pro-choicers- “I destroy my enemies when I make them my friends.”).
@Vannah,
You owe it to yourself to watch the video (and all of it). Once you do, you’ll be better able to join this discussion about its contents.
It’s only 11 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Zj9yx2j0Y
If you have time to write all that, you can watch the video :-)
Lord,
Please open Vannah’s eyes to see and her ears to hear.
Amen.
This debate has raged long enough??? I will cease debating when abortion is illegal and ALL children are considered human persons from conception on. Until then I will NEVER shut up about the murder of innocent human babies and the harm abortion brings to women!!
If a serial killer buys ice cream for all of the kiddoes in his neighborhood do we overlook the evil to say, “Well, shucks he does some good! He buys ice cream!”
Planned Parenthood hurts women and kills children. Evil. Evil. Evil.
Come on, Vannah. You know better.
Um. Yes. You immediately put a pimp in jail. Lockdown. You immediately call 911!! Then you rescue the little girls that are enslaved!! YOU SAVE THE GIRLS!
PP is no more interested in catching predators than I am in making nice with proaborts.
Watch the tapes.
Vannah, you could have watched at least one video in the time it took to post a long comment. Just sayin’.
When the claim about PP going to the FBI is made, remember that PP headquarters went to the FBI about a sting, it was not about mandated reporting, as I understand it.
Delicacy and shrewdness in cornering the pimp/slaver? Sure. But, with the exception of one clinic so far, there is no evidence that happened. Watch the tapes.
I think if a pregnancy resource center worker had done this, pro-aborts would be screaming “rape apologists!” “Rape enablers!” “Lawbreakers!” “Throw them all in jail!”
It’s only Planned Barrenhood that gets a pass, because AT ALL COSTS, we must protect the sacrosanct right to kill our unborn children whenever we want.
Vannah, I’m sorry, but PP does kill unborn children en masse for money. If you can’t condemn them for THAT ALONE, then I don’t really know what to say to you, because nothing will convince you. They still laud Margaret Sanger on their own website, for crying out loud – the racist eugenicist who founded them.
Do yourself a favor and watch the videos, please.
This debate has raged long enough??? I will cease debating when abortion is illegal and ALL children are considered human persons from conception on. Until then I will NEVER shut up about the murder of innocent human babies and the harm abortion brings to women!!
A-freaking-men, Carla! Thank you for saying this.
if the Planned Parenthood worker had shrieked, “EVIL-DOER on the premises! EVIL-DOER!” while running around in circles, flailing her arms, she might have done a moral good for drawing negative attention to the man in question, but it would have been an unwise decision.
Vannah, no one suggested that PP do something so ludicrous. As mandated reporters, they know–or SHOULD have known–their obligation to contact local law enforcement. It appears that so far only ONE of the clinics contacted local authorities promptly. The PP staffer, instead of drawing attention to the actor, should have lured him into staying as long as possible so that local law enforcement could have dealt with him to determine if a crime had been committed and how to best assist the girls he’s taken charge of. The staffer should have excused herself to call police, or asked a coworker to make the call for her while she continued meeting with the actor.
Those girls, and other girls in their situations, need care and need a better world- a world where they have access to education, healthcare, safe and healthy relationships, and so on and so forth-
Letting their abuser continue to pimp them helps them obtain these things??
There is a delicate way of going about catching traffickers, as ridiculous as it sounds- instantly putting them in lockdown is not that way.
Who said that the actor should have been put in lockdown at the clinic? Whether a crime has been committed and whether the self-reported pimp should be arrested are not things for clinic staff to determine. Their role is to PROMPTLY report SUSPICION of abuse and let the authorities handle it from there. Most states require reporting to LOCAL authorities, although other notifications may be necessary too. Calling the FBI or the local prosecutor is very different from calling tohave an officer dispatched to the scene because a self-reported sex-trafficker is on site.
The essay has been finished! Goodbye, Socrates. I am moving onto Aquinas now.
So…
I see that I am suddenly unpopular (well, I might have always been unpopular). I hope that none of you think of me as judgemental- we all know that I’m a big hypocrite when it comes to the “peace and love” talks. I want to say that I admire people who stand for something; they won’t fall for anything. Better to have a passion to fight for than nothing but mute and mousy tendencies, right? And I consider you all very brave for having something worth fighting for- I mean that, in all honesty.
But I don’t think that this has to be war. We don’t have to scream insults at each other (I know, I know- pot, meet kettle). But if anything, I’m glad that I finally posted something along these lines and somebody answered; normally, my comments regarding this particular subject- Potential Peace in the Abortion Debate- get ignored.
We can chat now. :)
Mary Ann,
I wasn’t aware that Planned Parenthood went to the FBI to report the undercover sting and not the potential sex trafficking. I will take this into consideration- either they were aware this was Lila Rose (God, I really need to watch this video) and were trying to have some sort of legal actions taken against her or what, but it does give me something extra to chew on. Thank you for telling me.
Hi FedUp 9:17PM
Excellent post with Vannah’s points well addressed.
Vannah could also look at it this way. Suppose you know a neighbor is on vacation and you see what may be suspicious acitivity around their house. Is anyone suggesting you run over there and check it out? Raise some noise and scare the
prowler? Certainly not, no police officer in his/her right mind would ever suggest such a thing.
Do you call police, observe from a safe distance and report any helpful details or do you decide not to make an issue of it and stir up any trouble? There is a delicate way to keep people from breaking and entering and calling the police is not it. Maybe instead one should write letters to the local prosecuter and the state attorney general.
The arguments being made by PP and their sympathizers sound just as ridiculous.
Hi Vannah,
You are not at all unpopular and we enjoy having you here. What the heck, we can all learn something, right? I’ve been corrected more than once and I’m sure will be many more times, but I learned something each time. Hopefully you learned something about PP as well. Please keep visiting us. We are a variety of opinions, religions, no religion, lifestyles, etc. A stepford wife mutual admiration blog would be a colossal bore, don’t you agree?
Vannah- I apologize if my post made you feel unwelcome or unpopular :( Or if you thought I was screaming insults at you. I’ve seen so much sex abuse thru the years that I tend to get riled up when I sense that someone is insensitive toward the victim or protective of the abuser. And that’s how I interpreted your evil-doer, arm-flailing scenario. You probably didn’t mean it in the way I interpreted it.
Anyway, you are very young and I respect that you have a mind that is open to so many ideas and perspectives. You aren’t set in your ways like some ol’ coot like me. I hope you’ll enjoy Aquinas and keep your mind open that I wasn’t trying to flame you. Nor can I imagine any of the other regulars here would either. Peace :)
Unfortunately, when it comes to Planned Parenthood, yes, we are in a war. It is a very necessary war, as Planned Parenthood is an organization founded on an evil premise for evil purposes. It was and is a eugenics organization, dedicated to removing “human weeds” from our society through birth control and abortion. And we are being forced to fund this evil organization. Planned Parenthood needs to be defunded and dismantled. That is the only solution.
There is no “yin” and “yang” to Planned Parenthood; there is nothing but an endless stream of blood and tears, racism and classism, broken lives and dead innocents.
These nurses are mandatory reporters and have all taken the requisite seminar training in order to maintain licensure. They know the protocols for notifying the police.
It is more than curious that NONE called local law enforcement, and that ALL notified the national office instead. This, after having helped what they believed to be a pimp with every bit of malignant advice they could conjure.
Professional predators giving a professional courtesy to professional predators.
Amanda Marcotte seems to be having a stroke over this. Good job.
The minute something like this came out about ACORN they lost all federal funding, and barely exist anymore.
When is federal funding going to be taken from PP???
Thank you, Mary @ 10:34 pm. That’s an interesting analogy you came up with. I’d like to add a few thoughts.
Suppose you know a neighbor is on vacation and you see what may be suspicious acitivity around their house.
As far as I know, it’s a matter of conscience whether I do anything related to my neighbor’s house. I know of no law that obligates me to take any action. PP is aware of there being a law that obligates them to report suspicious activity as it relates to minors.
Is anyone suggesting you run over there and check it out?
Now that’s interesting. Maybe a friend of my neighbor is helping to move some stuff with the consent and knowledge of my neighbor. Or maybe my neighbor is being robbed by a stranger. I don’t know. I am not trained to look for signs that might differentiate between the two scenarios.
But mandated reporters are generally expected to know the signs of potential abuse. They are supposed to “check it out” in the sense of giving consideration to the possibility of abuse. Doesn’t mean they have to interrogate the suspected abuser. It just means they have to consider the POSSIBILITY of abuse and then follow the law if they conclude that abuse may be taking place. They don’t need to confirm that abuse is occurring. And in the case of these videos, the actor reports that he is an abuser, which would indicate to most people of average intelligence that abuse is indeed a possibility. You don’t need advanced training to figure that one out.
Maybe instead one should write letters to the local prosecuter and the state attorney general.
Did PP take the steps laid down in the law, and then ADD to those steps by contacting additional agencies and authorities as seemed prudent? We don’t have all the facts yet, but it looks like those who would make mandated abortion referrals the letter of the law have some significant difficulty of their own when it comes to following legal mandates.
NONE called local law enforcement
Dr Nadal, I heard today that ONE did so “promptly,” but no time frame was specified.
Kate,
Congressman Mike Pence has inroduced a bill named The Title X Abortion Provider Prohibition Act which would block government funding to organizations that perform abortions. That would defund PP. Praise to God, deliverer of righteous judgement. And praise be to Jesus Christ whose life is our light and whose blood is redemptive grace.
Well said again Dr. Nadal: “Professional predators giving a professional courtesy to professional predators.” That about sums it up.
So this same couple is recorded speaking to two PP staff members on two occasions. They made it clear to the second woman that the sex workers were underage, and she was still happy to talk to them about “judicial bypass” if they came in to get an abortion – implying pretty clearly that the process would go that far with no complications.
And yet PP are only claiming that one of these people contacted the police. So they’re accepting that one of them didn’t (and providing no evidence that either of them actually did), and firing one person.
But of course, we’re expected to think that this is the first time it has happened, and it only happened because of Lila Rose and her gang of extremists.
We have a saying here in New Zealand: Yeah right!”
“There is no “yin” and “yang” to Planned Parenthood; there is nothing but an endless stream of blood and tears, racism and classism, broken lives and dead innocents.” That is well said John.
I’m with Kel on the Amen for Carla!!
“PP’s first priority is providing reproductive health care. Calling the police could prevent that from happening, and could actually harm any potential prostitutes involved.”
From Abby Johnson’s book, unPlanned,
“Doug smiled. ‘That will be a change. Seems to me the clinic has always called the police for every little thing. I’ll bet the police hate it when your clinic calls.’
“‘I think you’re probably right. But I’ll call them in for real crimes only.'”
Considering how often Planned Parenthood calls the cops on the pro-life protesters, I would think they should have the police on speed dial. I would guess that it would have taken all of 30 seconds, max, for any of these counselors to alert the law. Arguing that PP shouldn’t call the cops because they could interfere with teh womanzes and their neeeeed for choices is ridiculous.
(a) clearly, it never stopped them before, and
(b) if these empowered women are going to be spooked off from receiving their ‘choice’ that easily, they must not have needed it that badly. Should I need something badly enough, a cop car isn’t going to stop me from getting it. At worst, I reschedule.
Not to mention which, it’s THE LAW. Did you miss that, Joan?
Bob,
Wow, Very articulated. But, your comments break all the “Don’t” rules and don’t uphold any of the “DO” rules.
Mary Rose
Considering how often Planned Parenthood calls the cops on the pro-life protesters, I would think they should have the police on speed dial. I would guess that it would have taken all of 30 seconds, max, for any of these counselors to alert the law.
Good Point. So in their minds, the real crime is the use of free speech by protesting out font of their “Clinics”. I wonder what kind of delemina it would have caused if protesters had showed up after the pimp went in. Would they have called the cops on the protester and not the pimp?
I don’t think you’re unpopular here, Vannah – I think people are just a little frustrated that you’re willing to give Planned Parenthood the benefit of doubt without having watched the video. There is no excuse for giving business advice to a man you believe to be a pimp. There is no excuse for telling him how he can get around laws, and there is no excuse for telling him what lies his prostitutes should tell so that nothing will get back to the authorities. Planned Parenthood is mandated by law to report any suspected sexual abuse. That’s not a matter of discretion or a judgment call – it’s the law.
Planned Parenthood may provide some legitimate healthcare services, but they’re an organization founded by a eugenicist and they are responsible for the death of thousands of unborn children every year. The fact that someone is capable of good doesn’t erase whatever evil they may have committed. Ted Bundy volunteered at a crisis hotline and helped to save the lives of many suicidal people. He also kidnapped, raped and murdered dozens of young women, which, in some cases, should be described as kidnapped, murdered and raped.
I know that it’s a very uncomfortable and scary thing to confront the level of evil that people are capable of. We don’t like to think that people we could see in the grocery store or or the mall – people who do good things – are also doing or condoning horrible, inhumane actions. We want to look for the good, and we should, because people are capable of redemption. But that doesn’t mean that we should downplay, overlook, or make excuses for the barbarities people commit.
Hi FedUP 1:07am
Good points, thank you.
Is anyone suggesting you run over there on check it out?
I meant that to emphasize that whenever there is any question about a situation at all, you call police. Maybe that nice “Uncle Dan” is in fact the minor girl’s nice Uncle Dan and is completely innocent. Maybe he’s a sexual predator. If you have any concerns you notify police, you take no personal action against “Uncle Dan”. No one expected PP employees to take their own action against these “perps” and they have NO excuse not to call police.
Maybe instead one should write letters to the local prosecutor and the state attorney general.
I meant that to ridicule the PP spokesman Stuart who claimed this is the action PP took. Great Stu, but do you have any proof that PP employees took the first and most important step which is notifying the police pronto? That’s why you’re sitting there sweating Stu. Certainly as average citizens our first step will be to notify police that a possible crime is being committed, We don’t sit down and write the prosecutor or call the FBI.
I just want to reiterate the word SUSPECTED.
I was a mandated reporter as a teacher and when there were children that I SUSPECTED were being abused I made the call. I did not chit chat with the child, call the parent and ask questions, or look the other way until the bruises faded.
I made the call. By law I had to make the call. The rest I left up to those whose job it is to follow up on SUSPECTED cases of child abuse.
Hi Mary Rose,
Excellent point about the police on speed dial. Maybe Amy could have just punched one number on her phone and had the police there in minutes.
Vannah,
You know I love you. I am praying you see and hear and embrace the truth.
I am praying you join us in fighting for those victimized by the abortion industry.
Hi Carla,
My point exactly. Whether you are mandated to report or its a matter of being a good neighbor, you take the first step then leave it to police to take whatever action is necessary.
Trying to personally handle situations can be dangerous and I in no way would fault the PP employees for “playing along”. Even trying to get another employee to call for help or pressing the “perps” for information could prove dangerous. I would fault them for not calling police the instant the “perps” stepped outside the building.
joan says: February 4, 2011 at 7:21 pm
“Does it ring true that she would advise a sex trafficker on how to keep his girls in tip top shape for unimpeded forced prostitution, let him walk out the door – and then tell her boss?”
As opposed to what? Tackling him?
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How about manifesting some revulsion, at least in body language or facial expression?
How about actually being indignant that a person who exploits children has the audacity to ask you for advice and assistance as to how to get more productivity out of his sex slaves.
‘There are no homosexuals in Iran!’
‘There are no amercian soldiers in Baghdad!’
You are not in denial.
You are practicing willfull deceit and dishonesty because you are a paid propagandist and/or like a model marxist you are true believer in PP’s pathetic humanitic philosophy and you will stop at nothing to advance your agenda.
You sound no different than the mouthpieces for the former Soviet Union denying they had shot Korean airlines flight 007, and then when incontrovertable evidence was produced that had indeed blown a civilian airliner out of the skys, they reverted to excuses about airspace and sovereignty.
But alas now I have to apologize to those barbarians for putting them in the same league with you.
I bet every PP dump in America has the police on ‘speed dial’ as a matter of policy so that they can call in the SWAT team the minute granny shows up on the sidewalk and commences to pray.
But no! The dog ate their homework, the sun was in their eyes, they had a just had a manicure…. whatever. They just were not able to pick up their cell phone, a lond line, send an email or a fax to anyone…immediately.
But they do have Lila Roses photograph on the wall of all their dumps warning their accomplices to watch out for this dangerous woman wiht detailed instructions about what to do if they believe she has violated the sanctity of their temple of doom.
I have to believe these pp dumps have CCTV cameras deployed in hopes of recording the hordes of ‘prolife extremists’ who descend on their houses of demon worship and disrupt their worship cirlces.
Odd that we haven’t seen any of these tapes released showing the misbehavior of the faux pimp and child prostitute.
I bet those banks of tapes contain many incidents of mal and misfeasance by these caring professionals who only want to give disadvantaged dames a leg up.
I found Abby Johnson last post about this very situation that happened in her clinic very interesting. No, they didn´t call the cops. The pimp did come in at one point with his prostitute.
Here is the post http://www.abbyjohnson.org/2011/02/house-of-cards/
Chantal
Hi Chantal,
What a heartbreaking account. PP apparently stayed so focused on birth and infection control that it only permitted the sexual exploitation of this woman to continue. Sure the “problem” was being taken care of. She’s on birth control!
Her pimp had no qualms about showing his face? Well, why not? He obviously had nothing to fear from an organization that was only enhancing his business and was not about to notify authorities.
If I were the PP clinic director and the pimp told me he had teenaged sex slaves, I would pretend my kid was calling on my cell, tell them to hang on just a second, step out for two seconds into the hallway and tell one of my employees to get the police there immediately.
Do you really think that if PP called the cops to come immediately to PP that they wouldn’t come?
PP is way out there. They look terrible.
The police are usually quick to come for praying prolifers!!!!! How fast are they going to come for a pimp and undercover a large sex trafficking organisation!
Hi Mary @ 8:08am. I understood what you meant. I liked your example because it brought out other aspects of the situation, that’s all. Especially conscience vs mandate. Those who would eliminate conscience protections for prolifers seem fine invoking nonexistent ones for themselves to justify nonreporting. Those who would mandate abortion referrals can’t seem to demonstrate their own ability to comply with mandates.
I bring this up because PBHO is supposedly going to yank the enforcement mechanism for federal protections sometime soon. He was wise enough to wait until after the midterms. Will he forge ahead now when his little darling of the abortion industry has egg on its face? Or will he delay further?
Thanks for posting the link to Abby’s blog, Chantal.
I think we in the unborn human rights movement should start focusing on how we can use this pimp scandal strategically to bring down Planned Parenthood and the rest of the prenatal homicide industry.
This is, after all, our ultimate objective.
Jill and team, I just want to thank you for your tireless efforts to save children. You do so much to promote the dignity and respect for all life! Thank you!
http://www.facebook.com/IDSCforLIFE
Kate, Also, right now there are 154 cosponsors of this bill and they need 218 votes. You can help by getting your congressman to vote for this bill. If you go to
http://www.exposeplannedparenthood.com
They have links where you can email and CALL your congressperson. This coming week is a big week for hearings on this bill.
Does anyone else find it interesting that the PP employees kept referring the pimp to the local health department for FREE care for the “girls he managed”? To save money and improve his bottom line? So helpful. Strange that they would refer potential paying customers away to free care elsewhere.
And the prices PP quoted–wow! They are as high a a local OB doctor here in North Dallas charges for care–in his posh office with care by a board-certified OB doc, not a nurse practicioner or some other provider with less education. PP’s testing fees–I can assure you they are making a load of money off those lab fees as the prices they quoted include a large mark-up to create profit for them.
I hope these latest videos once again provoke PP to trot out their spokesweasel for Communications Stuart Shear.
Shear could be a poster boy for ‘Predator Pedophiles r us’.
These recent videos by Lila Rose exposes the completely predictable rotten fruit of the humanistic, amoral and relativistic philosophy of the progressive/liberal leftists and their cohorts and fellowtravelers in the MSM.
Mary,
Get Robert H. Ruff’s book, ‘Aborting Planned Parenthood’.
He lays out the scam PP has been running for almost 40 years.
If PP has a paying customer then they are much more likely to recieve fewer services at a lower fee.
If PP can qualify them for ‘federal and/or state funded assistance, and PP could quality Paris Hilton, then they receive more services at a higher fee and WE , the taxpayer, foots the bill.
The cash money PP receives from paying customers is ‘fungible’ and they use it for all the things for which they can’t legally use federal funds. Like contributing to almost exclusively democRAT candidates.
Let me make my previous ramblings more clear.
1. You’re all trucking in hypotheticals. There were no sex slaves. There was no pimp. And more likely than not, a pimp wouldn’t let his underage girls anywhere near a government-funded health clinic, let alone accompany them. Plus all this “If I were here, I would have…” just speaks to the fact that nobody knows this women’s motives because the tape is impartial. Maybe she gave them her cell phone number to “get an in,” maybe she called the cops, who knows. It’s all useless speculation.
2. And this is a nuance you have to understand: law enforcement officers don’t act on the side of sex workers. Did you read the Oakland child trafficking article I posted? The girls are arrested alongside the older women. They’re put in jail, and then when nobody comes to collect them, they’re thrown back out to the streets. I’m sorry but this is reality. It’s a nasty one. In this society, sex workers are the criminals. You can hear it in the way young trafficked girls are referred to as “prostitutes.” They’re not prostitutes, they’re rape survivors. If you think these street kids are treated with justice in our legal system, you’re looking through rose-colored glasses. It’s different than a kid coming into school with bruises. These girls aren’t even IN school, they’ve dropped out. So even if a real sex worker, age 13, came into a clinic, I could see why a clinic worker might be hesitant to call the cops, knowing this girl might be treated as a criminal.
It’s not right. It’s not “good.” The legal system should be set up to protect everybody. I can see where a community-based health care provider might have their hands tied, and want to focus on the immediate issue at hand: offering health care.
Here is a link to the current co-sponsors. If your congressman isn’t on the list please email and call them:
http://www.exposeplannedparenthood.com/title-x-abortion-provider-prohibition-act
And this is going to come out snarky, but it’s a sincere question:
If you succeed in bringing down PP, do you think young people will stop having premarital sex?
Megan,
Planned predator told the pimp they could fill out forms with false information so that PP could get them judicial bypass to commit abortion on their sex-slave minors. And you are ok with that?
Megan,
Your lame excuses, which are a de facto admission of guilt for PP’s inherent and systemic disregard for minor girls welfare is a reflection of who and what you are.
Your words reflect a similar attitude voiced by liberal democRAT’s when a former resident of the White House, Arkansas hill billy was using his boxer shorts to keep his ankles warm while he was canoodling with the hired help:
‘SO WHAT?!?!’
Some people choose to remain ignorant because they do not want to jeopardize their bliss.
Then there are other who willfully and knowingly use their abilities to deceive and mislead because they arrogantly believe they know better and in their amoral and lawless mind the end justifies means.
Which are you?
If you succeed in bringing down PP, do you think young people will stop having premarital sex?
No. The goal in bringing down PP is to stop the exploitation of young women and the slaughter of unborn babies.
Nothing will ever completely stop young people from having premarital sex. We need to work to lessen the amount that currently do by changing the hearts and minds of teens, and their parents, and counter-program against the message of “free love” that’s been promulgated since the 60’s.
Megan,
Planned Predatorhood promotes adolescent promiscuity. Getting rid of PP and keeping them away from our kids would mean they could no longer encourage our youth to engage in sex and that would in turn reduce the amount of adolescents having sex wouldn’t it?
Hi Chantel and (other)Mary,
Another aspect you both bring up in your posts is the pimp. What has not been addressed in this whole discussion is the sadistic brutality of these predators. I’m sure Gerard Nadal would back me up on this.
PP treated “Sara” but then what? She’s back on the street at the mercy of a “man” who gets her addicted to drugs, subjects her to the dangers of her trade, maybe beats her once or twice a week to keep her in line, won’t hesitate to use torture and will even kill her. Then she may have family members he can threaten and intimidate as well. Its likely she’s just part of a “stable” of girls and women subjected to the same horrors.
But PP very graciously treats these women out of compassion.
“Big Joe” was a former cop I knew who is now deceased. Of all the lowlifes he dealt with he loathed no one more than pimps, who he regarded as the ultimate predators. He would have loved nothing more than to kill them on sight. He told me, and I’m not certain how true it is, that he covered up for a prostitute who murdered her pimp. He said to me “Mary, you should see what he did to her face with a razor blade, I also know he killed a few other of ”his girls”. “Why should I turn this woman in? Heck, the city should have given her an award”.
As I said I don’t know if the story is true, I can only hope it is.
Megan says:February 5, 2011 at 11:48 am
“If you succeed in bringing down PP, do you think young people will stop having premarital sex?”
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No. But there will be a lot less of them doing so.
It is illogical to fund an organization to solve a problem when they profit more from the failure of their proposed remedy, than they do from it’s success.
I bet you would not do business that way with the mechanic who maintains your car.
An excerpt from Dotties Laster’s article to which klynn73 February 4, 2011 at 12:31 pm posted a link.
…”I think you’ll be interested in reading what Dottie Laster (activist & expert in Human Trafficking issues) had to say in this article after she viewed the PP videos.”
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“All children in commercial sex are victims of trafficking according to the Trafficking Victims Protection Act and anyone who attempted or intended to participate/facilitate human trafficking activities could face prosecution under the TVPA-whether they completed the crime or not.”
“The TVPA also has a clause that states any government contractor whose employees or sub- contractors or their dependents engage in human trafficking activities may lose all government funding. So I urge all organizations to address their policies and procedures immediately. The first effective action that any group can do is to recognize that ANY MINOR IN COMMERCIAL SEX IS A VICTIM OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING and that anyone putting a minor in stripping, pornography or prostitution is a trafficker- and should be treated as a criminal.”
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Does that make all the PP apologists [not yet] indicted co-conspirators or just fellow pimps and prostitutes?
Megan 11:47am
If Amy called the police there would be documentation. As FedUp has pointed out, one can also take the precaution of documenting and recording their call to police and getting a dispatcher’s name, etc. Abby Johnson has already stated that “Sara’s” pimp had no concern about showing up at PP. Why would he? Pimps walk the streets, police know who they are. You can’t convict without evidence and testimony and if threats to your family by the pimp and his associates will not discourage a girl from testifying then perhaps a round of torture or tossing a girl’s body into the ditch will.
This is what we call a “victimless” crime.
So we have a PP worker exposed by undercover actors as helping a pimp. Speaking of speculation does she have experience advising pimps and “sex workers”? She didn’t seem at all shocked or hesitant by their request, or for that matter, to even see them in her office.
CDC is now refusing to release the 2009 or 2010 data on number of abortions in the US. Coincidentally, Barack Hussein Obama stopped all funding for abstinense only education two years ago. Do you think maybe the abortion rate has gone up?
Two weeks after commiting abortion on them, Planned Parenthood would have these pimps put these poor adolescent girls back into forced sex.
Hi Megan,
I wasn’t comparing young girls forced into the sex slave trade to children with bruises in a public school.
I was talking about those that are MANDATED BY LAW to report any suspicion they have of abuse.
You know that.
So 13 year old girls who were rescued from the sex trade go to jail then? Color me skeptical.
Also, PP SHOULD be concerned with the welfare of little girls that are rape survivors. Enslaved to a pimp who lets adult men rape them daily for a price. Sadly they are not. Well, unless they all need birth control and abortions and then are sent right back out there as the “extra action walking by.” Also, NOT ONE clinic worker I have seen so far even blinked an eye at the situation. They were eerily familiar with working to “help” out those that exploit little girls.
Lovely.
I could see why a clinic worker might be hesitant to call the cops, knowing this girl might be treated as a criminal… I can see where a community-based health care provider might have their hands tied, and want to focus on the immediate issue at hand: offering health care.
Proaborts frequently argue that prolifers who don’t want to make abortion referrals shouldn’t be working in health care. Are they willing to extend that logic toward themselves and insist that their own who don’t want to follow mandated reporting laws should find themselves another line of work? Or are they going to insist that they should have freedom of conscience to obey or disobey the law as they see fit?
want to focus on the immediate issue at hand
WANTING has little to do with it. Why do you think they’re referred to as MANDATED reporting laws? Do prochoicers now expect “freedom to choose” whether to obey the laws that regulate the practice of a profession?
TS, thanks for that link. Does anyone know if HR217 applies to chemical abortions or only the other methods?
I can see where a community-based health care provider might have their hands tied, and want to focus on the immediate issue at hand: offering health care.
Treat the symptom, not the cause?
And in the meantime, ignore the law? Allow the continued sexual abuse of young women?
It should also be noted, she didn’t provide health care. None of these women provided any health care for those involved. They merely provided information about how to circumvent the law.
As I mentioned before, I hope this videos will bring fruitful changes to the injustices these women face.
1) Target the pimps (get the police, health services, politicians working to enact a proper procedure and laws.
2) The victims are the prostitutes, (I know that in my city they make public the names of Johns)
3) More homes for homeless women and mothers that teach them life´s skills. There is a new home in Nova Scotia, Canada, that help and support women for free for as long as they need it, run by volunteers. I am unable to link to the article but here is a link the a blog post about it.
http://www.prowomanprolife.org/2011/01/31/doing-it-right/
I wonder if Lila can come to Canada.
Chantal
Full page ad in the Dallas Morning News 2/3/11 about the fact that they expect 10,000 girls and women to be prostituted in N. Texas this week during Super Bowl festivities. Average age of female when forced into the sex industry–13. Average life expectancy after being prostituted–7 years. That would put them at the ripe old age of 20! Real men don’t buy sex.
Don’t Buy It
http://www.dontbuyit.us
Chantal and Mary,
Thank you.
Good Lord, Mary.
10,000?
Thank you for the link!!
Megan’s Thai prostitute joke on another thread reminded me of a story of a friend.
He visited Thailand ten years ago. In the taxi ride from the airport he was asked about “what he was looking for- boys, girls, group stuff”, etc. The way human beings were referenced started to bother him more and more. And the fact that lots of Americans visit Thailand to buy sex and abuse kids.
He and the friend he was with decided to go to a ‘market’ where stalls consisted of children chained to beds, with curtains in front of the stalls when they were in use. Crude ‘required’ signs were posted above each stall, telling the name, age, and known diseases of each chained prostitute/slave.
Many of the children were under 10. The youngest he saw was a girl, 5 years old, chained to he bed and trying to sleep under part of it.
He came home from his trip (missionary work) and now this priest works undercover, etc. for the release of sex slaves here and abroad.
With the idea of prostitution becoming more accepted, we need to fight to make the plight of these kids and women known. I like the idea of Johns’ names being made public, like Chantal said.
If PP is part of the chain of abuse, and it’s hard to say they’re not now, they need to be defunded and denounced far and wide. Someone else can provide their services. PP doesn’t deserve a corrupt monopoly. If they do any good, their behavior around this scandal can’t be excused.
I say feminism hasn’t lived up to it’s own promises when clinic workers are caught helping the pimps more than liberating the girls and women.
Chantal,
Defunding PP and putting that money into the hands of community crisis centers instead should help increase the reporting of sexual predators to authorities. Let’s pray that this is one of the fruitful changes this video brings to the victims of abuse. You can help by contacting your congressman this week and telling them to vote YES to HR217. Here is a link to the current co-sponsors. If your congressman isn’t on the list please email and call them:
http://www.exposeplannedparenthood.com/title-x-abortion-provider-prohibition-act
Mary Ann,
That is a disgusting story about Thailand. If I saw that I think I would likely be killed on the spot cause I would start taking some people out. May God’s almighty hand bless and keep your missionary friend in his undercover work against such an evil.
Truthseeker, I would love to phone your congressmen, but I´m a Canadian.
We have quite a few battles here. I´m deeply sadden by everything that is happening here politically. Canada is very quiet but I´m certain that the country will soon reap what it is sowing, even though we haven´t been very affected by economic crisis. Well Alberta anyways.
I am actually very grateful to be in Alberta. In general there is still a good solid Christian base. I am happy with the education system, (I can educate my children however or wherever I want. Even with homeschooling I can get some gov funding.) and things in general, even our health care. (I guess there has been a major decline in health care according to my mother (a nurse) but I am not aware of it as I´m never sick.) I bring my children to the medi center here and apart from waiting an hour or so, they are well taken care of… not a cent paid.
US politics and issues are so very interesting for me.
More and more there seems to be a certain uprising in the air. Life is generally tranquil, too tranquil, Like the calm before the storm. I wonder how long it will last.
Again, i wonder if Lila can come to our snowstorms here! I would love to know what is going on in the abortion clinics. They are not even required to report abortions. There are no confirmed stats and they won´t release the little data they do have. There is absolutely NOTHING here regarding abortion.
I’m not sure where to post this, but CNN has an article about sex trafficking, but when I tried to post (3 times) about PP and their cooperation with a suspected sex trafficker – they withheld it for their “moderator.” I did not use foul language, but did point out that PP did NOT notify the authorities about the suspected sex trafficker, only the organization behind the videos.
I hope other people will write comments about PP to try to get them post. I cannot believe (really I can) how hypocritical the “pro-choice for death” crowd is.
Link follows:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/02/05/saar.ending.girl.slavery/index.html?hpt=C2
Chantal,
It sounds really dark in Canada. I am glad you have health insurance but at what cost. Don’t you have a constitution that defends the right to free speech? I saw they even deny pro-choice groups from assembly on college campuses. The devil cannot live in the light. God bless and protect Alberta. Maybe you would gather with a couple Christian friends and pray for America and passage of HR217. God bless and keep you also Chantal.
Megan to answer your very early question: if we brought PP down, would it stop minors from having sex?
We are not asking that question. We ask: will minors and adults realize that those are human beings in the womb, from conception to birth, and they are the future of our species, and they deserve all the dignity and legal protection due to ALL human beings?
A teen doesn’t have to stop having sex, Megan. But it wouldn’t be a tragedy if one or two teens thought twice before they create a baby. Would that really be so bad?
Excellent, ninek!!
Where’s the LIKE button?
Go, Ninek, time to refocus.
I’ve been thinking about one of your one-liners all week, “Abortion uber alles!”
With the way the PP defenders have engaged in a national game of Twister all week, “Abortion uber alles” ‘just about sums it up.
It’s like PP going into developing countries. The women there ask for basic medicine, AIDS drugs, prenatal care, and safe labor and delivery. PP, unable to think outside the contraception and abortion box, offers back limiting their family size and surgically killing their kids. They solve nothing.
Guess it’s not a shock that the tunnel vision of PP would prevail over helping liberate sex slaves here. Pathetic.
“And this is going to come out snarky, but it’s a sincere question:
If you succeed in bringing down PP, do you think young people will stop having premarital sex?”
And this may sound snarky as well but it is sincere as well.
Do you know what incidence rate means?
Without birth control, folks did not have tons of extramarital sex. The point is that promoting an activity means the incidence rate goes up. So, to your question, nothing will bring down the murder rate to zero incidence, nor will anything bring down other undesirable behaviors to zero incidence, but the rate can go down.
Wow – it is simply amazing how stubbornly faithful some choicists 9choice cultists) are in defending PP no questions asked no matter what PP gets caught doing.
No doubt that has a LOT to do with helping PP get away with it.
Choicists don’t really care about women.
Any fool who still believes that lie is just a chanting choicist sheeple – while the abortion industry laughs at the free pr they get from such fools.
Oh and not only PP is guilty of enabling sex trafficking – but the choicist sheeple who attack anyone who exposes or condemns PP’s complicity are on the side of the pimps too.
Shame on you.
Also the pro-abort journalists are guilty too.
Oops too bad for PP, the pimps, and the choicist sheeple that people are finding out the truth online and from alternative media in spite of the leftist media bias.
Enjoy your delusional state of ‘PP is pro-woman’ brainwashing while it lasts ye mindless bortbots because as more and more citizens learn the truth PP will stop raking in tax funding. Because unfortunately for PP MOST citizens are opposed to sex trafficking and despise anyone who aids and abets such CRIMINAL exploitation.
Maureen, I guess CNN is more willing to be guilty of helping to cover up sex trafficking than to risk being thought of as ‘uncool’ by chanting choicist bortbots.
The choicists who post in defense of PP’s complicity in sex trafficking are guilty too.
They don’t care about the children victimized by pimps – they JUST want to protect the abortion industry.
A fact the abortion industry is well aware of and is exploiting – HOW they get away with aiding and abetting pimps – the chanting choicist devotees and the pro-abort media play a KEY role in the sexual exploitation of children.
Shame on them.
So is teens getting to have sex much, Much, MUCH more important to you Maureen than protecting children from sex traffickers?
Apparently choicists think NOTHING is as important as being able to have sex and then getting to kill any innocent babies their irresponsible, immature, selfish sexual fun created.
NOTHING matters but sex?
So what if children are sex slaves and PP assists the traffickers instead of the victims, as long as choicists can still go to PP to get bc and abortions?!?
THAT is ALL that really matters?!?
WOW! No wonder PP doesn’t worry much about aiding and abetting illegal sex slavery – with an army of chanting choicist devotees to defend whatever PP does why wouldn’t PP want to rake in some profits from the sex slave trade too?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/02/05/saar.ending.girl.slavery/index.html?hpt=C2
In the article Malika Saada Saar calls for:
“harsh penalties for every entity involved in their trafficking – pimps, victimizers and enterprises that profit from these sales”
PP is obviously an enterprise profiting from pimp sales.
But instead of so-called ‘pro-woman’ choicers calling for harsh penalties for PP they are chanting defenses for PP.
as if PP doesn’t already spend fortunes on lawyers, lobbyists, paid-off politicians, plus the biased pro-abort media helping them to cover-up their complicity in sex trafficking…
they also have a throng of chanting choicist bortbots who will never, ever criticize PP no matter what they get caught doing – and PP doesn’t even have to pay the chanting choicists a single cent.
PP knows they can count on chanting choicers to care more about getting to continue their selfish irresponsible casual sex than about children victimized by sex trafficking.
Shame on you chanting choicers for YOUR immoral complicity – dirty deeds done dirt cheap is your real motto and we know it – and so does PP.