Video: The irrational perspective of a woman being escorted for an abortion
A guest poster at the pro-abortion blog EverySaturdayMorning described an interesting school project: Having a friend pose as a pregnant mother and film being escorted through a large pro-life crowd at the EMW Women’s Center in Louisville, KY.
I’ve written about this particular abortion mill many times, most recently after LiveAction.org released an undercover video showing staff there willing to cover up underage rape.
When you watch the video you will see the pro-life sidewalk counselors and activists were all kind, compassionate, and helpful. That is not a surprise.
What is shocking is how the poser described the pro-lifers afterward. Even after having documented on film how the pro-lifers really behaved, she was completely off-base.
I’m not saying the poser was lying. Her reaction appeared real; she was shook up and on the verge of tears. But it seems clear she was projecting, based either on preconceived notions about pro-lifers or ambivalence about abortion. I suppose that even though this wasn’t a real pregnant mother, pro-lifers can learn from her reaction.
Watch the video. Note also how the deathscort tries her best to keep the woman from hearing the pro-lifers. What was that about being “pro-choice”?
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Now read the transcript of the poser’s reaction:
And you can hear them, the rioters, like 2 blocks before that…. And so you have this build of dread, even before you’re anywhere near the clinic….
The escort was talking to me, saying like, “Ok, I’m going to start talking nonsense now, just about weather, just to try to drown out this other woman.” I was really grateful for that, and also being totally frazzled, all these voices everywhere, not knowing where to look. It feels like getting herded, you know, you’re an animal, just totally terrified of everybody around you….
They just become this, like, blur of antagonism….
Even if they were successful and “saved me,” or whatever, that kind of stress, that kind of panic can’t possibly be healthy for you or for a baby…. It was really hard not to say like, “How dare you say this to me. How dare you have think you have the authority to talk to anybody like this.”…
It really is just so drowning, like just this roar of judgment and lack of empathy. It’s so inhuman, and it makes you feel so inhuman, not because of even why you’re there, just anybody treating you like that, it doesn’t even matter what they’re saying, how any human being could act like that to someone else.
What in the world? Her depiction of the pro-lifers was absolutely imagined.
The project’s mastermind was apparently disappointed in the pro-life response, explaining at the beginning of the film that there were usually many more pro-lifers there. She apparently chose the day before Easter for her experiment with that very hope. (I, on the other hand, was impressed by the number of pro-lifers on such a rainy, cold day.) She wrote:
When I first watched the video, I thought it was pretty tame. I’m kind of ashamed of that. I must be pretty desensitized to the situation if I thought that was as tame as I did.
No, the pro-lifers actually were “tame,” my friend. A commenter added, regretfully it seems:
She wasn’t surrounded by protesters shoving the escorts into her. Nobody pushed their babies in her face. No one stopped directly in front of her.
We say it wasn’t “that bad” today. Well, bullsh**, clearly it is always “that bad.”
No, it’s that your portrayal of pro-lifers is always “that bad.”
The student’s blog post was, dare I say, hysterical. I hate to label other women as hysterical, but she was certainly irrationally dramatic:
I wonder if more people did this… talked to their communities about what it’s really like at the clinic, if there wouldn’t be some sort of social backlash on the behavior of these people who attack women like this on the street. Because that’s what it is. It’s an attack…. I can’t imagine what it must be like going in, to be surrounded by strangers trying to support, and then by more strangers trying to scare you away. I thought it was scary before. I thought it was traumatizing when I got a small taste of it before. Now I think it’s terrifying.
It’s terrifying that some people think this is ok…. It is terrifying that people are treated like this. Bullied and intimidated on the street, and others take no action against it. It is terrifying that people are so apathetic to the treatment of others. It was especially terrifying when it was my friend.
It’s even more terrifying that it’s strangers that I don’t know.
No, what’s terrifying is that people believe hysterical pro-aborts like you.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Did anyone else hear what she said? “It can’t be healthy for your baby” Prolifers offering help is not healthy for your baby but abortion is???? Freudian slip, I think…
I love this video! It did so much to show the lies of the abortionists. You can clearly see the pro-lifers are not yelling, screaming… the girl talking you can hear beautifully “We want to help you” over and over. She was great!
keep posting this video silly pro-abort girl! You are just breaking the stereotypes about pro-lifers that the abortion industry has been trying to set up from the time that YOU were a defenseless fetus yourself. Clearly we are not crazy, clearly we are not dangerous, clearly we are loving, peaceful and wanting to help women and clearly we don’t make money off the moms who choose life.
@ Lucy – I totally thought the same thing ! What the heck?
Lucy, we heard it too – amazing isn’t it?
Jill, thank you for posting this - interesting look into the thought process of the other side
I love this, but at the same time, it’s incredibly depressing. This person is basically brainwashed; she keeps the propaganda going despite seeing first-hand that she’s wrong. How on earth are we supposed to get through to people like that?
Later, when it hits her that her baby is dead because she killed it, how will her perspective change?
Though I do understand the “running the gauntlet” feeling. You used to be allowed to hand out campaign fliers outside polling places in Pennsylvania, and I felt strangely intimidated, as if they were all ready to pounce on me, when they were offering me information that I wanted. And you’re not already on tenterhooks going in to vote.
The fact that the abortion advocates try to scare them in advance, telling them they’ll be attacked and condemned and judged, yada yada yada, no doubt only intensifies the feeling. And the herd of “escorts” by the door looked pretty intimidating too.
What the hell motivates somebody to cut another woman off from her last hope of any real help? Misery loves company, I guess. Either that, or none of them ever climbed on an abortion table herself.
Wow, I can’t imagine having to go through that if I were having an abortion due to an ectopic pregnancy, had been impregnated during a rape, or was pregnant by a family member.
I agree that the protesters were calm and kind, but it is sickening to imagine being bombarded, stared at, and judged by people I don’t know during an already stressful time.
I’ve had paper cuts more traumatic than this. Wow.
and judged by people I don’t know
You should only start worrying if humans no longer judge other humans for killing each other.
Removal of an ectopic pregnancy is not considered an abortion and PP DOESN’T provide that kind of medical procedure. Try again.
Whether you are aborting because of rape or incest or you are getting your career off the ground, trying to pay for college or you think the baby daddy is a jerk the end result is the same. Your baby dies.
The prolifers are trying to save the lives of TWO people. The baby and his or her mother from the devastating effects of abortion.
They are the ONLY ones out there offering any other choice at all.
Proaborts only offer one choice. Abortion.
I pray outside this clinic, and read the escort’s blog on occasion. It never ceases to amaze me how I see one thing, and they describe something COMPLETELY different on their blog. It’s like entering an alternate universe.
God bless you, Sarah!!!
THANK YOU for offering women help and support. Not killing.
Wow. This is sobering testimony to just how tenacious and blinding a scary and threatening (and wrong) preconceived idea of what pro-lifers on the street are like can be in a person’s mind. She saw what her formed-in-advance emotional ideas (fed by hype) expected her to see. She did not see reality as it actually happened. And she wasn’t even actually pregnant. Imagine how even more blinded and hyper-skewed her perceptions of the encounter would have been were she actually in what she might call a crisis pregnancy.
This helps explain why escorts at these clinics seem to regard pro-lifers on the street with such suspicion and even fear, even though there is probably no rational reason for this reaction. They are so programmed to experience the situation in a certain light that they cannot process it with any degree of objectivity.
Indeed, it is very sobering to consider how does one make an authentic human connection with a person in such a pre-programmed state of mind. At the very least (as the saintly Msgr Reilly in NYC teaches sidewalk counselors), it is clear that one must approach these women from an interior place of calm and peace–and genuine love and concern for them as an individual. Certainly hard to do in just a few seconds of an encounter. This (and many other reasons) is why oceans of prayer support for sidewalk counselors is so important! They need much grace to help these women and men see rightly through their highly clouded lenses in just a few seconds.
Ashtar, I have friends who have had tubal pregnancies. It is life threatening and not one of them was referred to an abortion clinic. You have to have ACTUAL surgery. Like the kind of medical care the “pump em and dump em” clinics can’t provide. So you fail on that argument.
Oh yeah, and if you’re raped your baby should totally die! Google Rebecca kiessling. She was conceived in rape. Would you look her in the eyes and tell her she should be dead? How a baby is conceived does not change her humanity and the fact that abortion kills her!
Sarah wrote: “I pray outside this clinic, and read the escort’s blog on occasion. It never ceases to amaze me how I see one thing, and they describe something COMPLETELY different on their blog. It’s like entering an alternate universe.”
First of all, thank you for your witness to life, Sarah! I have thought the same thing about the perceptions of those there. We know that their minds are blinded by the god of this world (2 Cor 4:4), but I sometimes wonder about their ears…My experience: An interpreter worked herself into a lather and spat out, “You cursed me the last time you talked to me, if you ever speak to me again, I’m calling the police!” For the life of me, I had no idea what she was referring to. After much thought, I considered that she may have overheard me quote Deut 30:19, but it would not have been directed at her. If she was walking in with a client, I would ignore her and speak to them (in Spanish) and I certainly have never cursed anyone there! The distortion through the pro-abort filters really warps the message, as evidenced above. “Free ultrasound” & “We want to help” = judment and how dare you talk to me like that?!? Makes me think of when Jesus would teach on something and end with, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”
that kind of stress, that kind of panic can’t possibly be healthy for you or for a baby….
Um. What?!?
Rioters? Antagonism? “We have free ultrasounds.” “This is your son or daughter.” Yeah, I can see how that would be “antagonizing.” *eyeroll*
Yeah, I think she’s projecting here. There was none of this in the video. Wow.
ACLU writes at the end “This verbal assault has to stop.” Wow! If this is a verbal assault I would never want to hear an real “rioter”. The mind can really play tricks on you. Not one word of hate or condemnation, not one shout or yell, not one threat or word of intimidation. God help this young woman she is so deceived and brainwashed she is imagining things.
(Escort:) “It’s creepy…insane…..”
The escort is making the situation tense by her use of this kind of language. What’s her problem? If she can’t be calm and professional, she shouldn’t be in that job. And why does she need to escort the woman for two blocks? I’d feel like I was being “herded” too!! Let the girl walk unescorted for goodness sake. She’s a “big girl”.
(Christina, I noticed you made a similar comment earlier. Sorry about that!)
“It is terrifying that people are so apathetic to the treatment of others”
… The whole reason there is a crowd of pro-lifers is that we AREN’T apathetic to the treatment of others! Some people think so backwards.
So offering free ultrasounds is unsympathetic? Saying “We want to help you. There’s a pregnancy clinic just across the street” is antagonistic?
What I found sickening was their reaction to the prolifers. I mean the prolifers were just standing there gently calling out that they would help. Nobody was in her face, nobody was yelling or screaming on the prolife side as far as I could tell.
If you think the poster’s language was hyperbolic I will give you that, but lets not pretend that walking through that line isn’t intimidating. In fact it is made to make the women feel bad and intimidate them away from having an abortion.
I would hate to walk through that line, but wouldn’t you, isn’t that the point, to make women feel so uncomfortable and have so many doubts that she leaves the line?”
I understand that you hate abortion and that you want to deter it in any way possible, but if you thought abortion was a legitimate private decision (like pro-choicers do) you would think it was horribly judgemental and unsympathetic and yes antagonistic to protest it. The protest WOULD be ugly to you, it would be demeaning. You may not agree with that but I hope you can at least understand that
In fact it is made to make the women feel bad and intimidate them away from having an abortion.
In fact it is made in attempts to save a human being from death and another from having to live forever with the guilt that they, more likely than not under extreme coercion by abusers, paid to have their own child killed.
Lana said: I understand that you hate abortion and that you want to deter it in any way possible, but if you thought abortion was a legitimate private decision (like pro-choicers do) you would think it was horribly judgemental and unsympathetic and yes antagonistic to protest it.
Like every other action of pro-choicers, your response has absolutely nothing to do with the child.
Killing her own child is why any woman would walk through there. I think the reason for the hysterics is because there is guilt in that, whether one actually experiences an abortion or not. It’s similar to guilt a man feels when he has unprotected sex with a woman he has no intention of marrying. Sooner or later post-abortive symptoms appear, because he doesn’t know the outcome. He has, in a sense, killed his child, because he didn’t secure the relationship with the mother.
This exercise is a reverse play on the LiveAction videos, but strangely, the focus is not on the unknowing individual’s actions, those in the line, but on the knowing participant’s reactions – which are completely subjective.
I wonder if there will be moral soul searching among the pro-choice crowd on whether deception should be employed to reveal the “nightmare” of walking to the clinic?
Lana – the point of the line is not discomfort of the woman, but actually the long term comfort of the woman. If the deceptive walker felt shame before, imagine what it’s like walking out, knowing your 12 week old child was vacuumed out of you.
Those on the sidewalk are NOT counselors in any professional sense of the word. Attempting to intimidate and harass a person who is walking into a clinic violates every professional standard of counseling which should take place in a PRIVATE and supportive setting. What happens on the sidewalk is a circus – not a counseling session! And BTW, counselors refrain from interjecting their personal opinion into the process. Telling a woman, who has made a decision to terminate a pregnancy, that she is “killing her baby” is judgemental and not part of the counseling process. And yeah, I am qualified to talk about this because I do have an advanced degree in counseling and this stuff outside Planned Parenthood sure isn’t true counseling. Rather, it’s street theater.
I am so proud of them that on a cold rainy day so many were out there making a stand for life. I did not think I heard anything objectionable nor did I see graphic signs. The loudest person offering help from a prc was not malicious at all. I heard people praying the rosary. It was amazing that she said this can not be good for the baby….does she understand the disconnect.
To CC: this is not the typical counseling situation but sidewalk counseling is totally different. This is crisis counseling and the fact that she is ending the life of her preborn baby is fact not judgment. She knows it is legal to have an abortion but the counselors on the inside will tell her that it is not a baby yet. Giving her factual information is not injecting your personal opinion. telling her options to abortion is not being judgmental. If she were to avail herself to a private counseling session such as at the prc mentioned she would be handled differently. I don’t care how many advanced degrees you happen to possess, that does not make you a good counselor and in fact your comments suggest otherwise. CC, if you were to witness a mother abusing her toddler in public, would you intervene? Or would you consider that to be too judgmental?
Hahahahahaha! CC you crack me up! I am waiting on the edge of my seat to hear what you call the people INSIDE abortion clinics who “counsel” pregnant girls/women concerning their babies.
Crickets….
I call them “receptionists.”
If even pro-choicers are commenting and saying things along the lines of “that’s not so bad” I’d like to thank this young woman for the free publicity, showing the wonderful, caring, prolifers. In fact, maybe she would consider doing this regularly? The only danger would be a pro-abort posing as part of the crowd and doing something nasty. Even then, the prolife crowd would firmly, but kindly insist on appropriate behavior. It’s a win-win.
I think it is foolish to freak out or downplay somebody’s perspective. Perspective has to be dealt with and understood. If the pro-life side continues to think Planned Parenthood is the number one enemy in the world, and that the perspective of those on the other side is just automatically garbage – well, this war will wage on indefinitely.
X— this war will wage on as long as there are those who try and kill innocent human beings merely because they are defenseless.
I have no doubt it will wage as long as women get pregnant at all…it is like the “war on drugs” and the “war on poverty”.
I just think the whole dynamic of saying “hey, here’s the perspective of somebody on the other side and why that perspective sucks” – I just think that is a pretty shallow way of looking at things.
Ex – this woman claimed, “people who attack women like this on the street. Because that’s what it is. It’s an attack….”
Perspectives are one thing. Out and out lying is another.
Janet, 9:35p: Good catch. She had not-so-subliminal lies about pro-lifers coming in her other ear.
“ CC, if you were to witness a mother abusing her toddler in public, would you intervene? Or would you consider that to be too judgmental”
I would inform the women that I was contacting authorities. Abortion isn’t child abuse – something I dealt with while I worked as a social worker with protective services.
“I am waiting on the edge of my seat to hear what you call the people INSIDE abortion clinics who “counsel” pregnant girls/women concerning their babies”
As these counseling sessions are confidential, I can’t opine on what is said. I can opine on the support that Planned Parenthood gets from both the secular and religious community in our area. And if women make an informed decision to have an abortion, that’s their choice. Why should they be talked out of it – oh, right, they’re “killing their babies,” blah, blah, blah,
BTW, has Lila Rose gone undercover, as an underage girl seeking a pregnancy test, to see if private physicians report suspected child exploitation? Or is she just focusing her stings on the organization that the pro-life movement wants to shut down?
CC,
There is no such thing as informed consent with abortion. As the thousands and thousands of stories of abortion testimony attest to. LISTEN to those that have been “COUNSELED” at the mills!! ”bunch of cells” “piece of tissue” “not a baby until 6 months”
OR
Stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and shake your head assume that those that have experienced an abortion don’t know the truth.
I loved hearing how kind and compassionate these protesters were. I am glad this girl documented it! The woman who kept repeating how much she wanted to help, and how there were resources available for her…It was nothing like what this girl in the video portrayed the experience to be like. I think she was feeling this way because she knew deep down what she was doing was wrong, and THAT was what tormented her. What she was feeling was her reaction to her own guilt, not a reaction to what the pro-lifers were doing or saying to her.
@ If even pro-choicers are commenting and saying things along the lines of “that’s not so bad..”
Not exactly, I don’t think thats what the pro-choicers are saying at all! We were saying the pro-life people weren’t being outrageous, which isn’t really that much of a feat. They were being intimidating and the whole process of protesting is out of line.
The video was actually surprising to me, I didn’t know some women had to walk through that, I think that’s awful.
Most of us are still talking past each other, and if we want to disagree about abortion that is fine. But the girl isnt projecting her own guilt about being pro-choice, she’s responding negatively to what she views as harassment. You can say you are only helping her, and I understand that you feel that way but she FEELS harassed….and yes we think its problematic that women FEEL harassed when going to seek abortions
I just think the whole dynamic of saying “hey, here’s the perspective of somebody on the other side and why that perspective sucks” – I just think that is a pretty shallow way of looking at things.
Ex-GOP,
Maybe I’m misunderstanding your point, but isn’t that the essence of a discussion or debate? Wasn’t that the point of this video? For comparison, look at the moniker you’ve chosen for yourself. It screams “challenge my perspective!”.
They were being intimidating and the whole process of protesting is out of line.
Lana, what would you do if our country legalized the killing of one-year-olds if the mom decided she no longer wanted to parent? What about if it became legal to kill someone in a nursing home? What would you do if our country legalized the killing of a particular race, gender, sexual orientation or religion?
What specifically in the video do you see as intimidation?
Prax -
I can see how it would be reasonable for somebody who walked through 50ish people on their way to something, with those folks saying various things about your decision – I could see how somebody would perceive that as an “attack”. I don’t think it fits in the convention of what most people see as an attack – but I can tell you, if I had to go to a store for instance, and people were lined up like that, my blood would get pumping, and I wouldn’t perceive it in a positive light.
Janet – maybe the point of it is to yield discussion – but the very title of the thread is “the irrational perspective…”
Okay, but is it irrational and only held by a very, very small percentage of women who go through these lines on the way to get abortions, or is it a widespread perception – and if it is a widespread perception, is it an issue that the perception is out there? At times, people on this board seem very interested in perceptions – though not interested in why people might hold perceptions that they find unflattering.
I’m very much okay people challenging my perceptions – I change my mind on things, I learn, I take in other opinions – even my moniker isn’t fully correct (I vote for some GOPers…just not in a while at a federal level) – I just don’t feel that in this situation, many people are challenging this “irrational perspective”, as it doesn’t seem like anyone is taking anytime to understand where that perspective might come in the first place. Is that more clear, or am I just rambling now? :-)
And BTW, counselors refrain from interjecting their personal opinion into the process.
CC,
Some counselors do ”interject their personal opinions”. It’s happened to me at least once with one counselor I stopped seeing soon after it happened. I won’t go into the details because that’s not the topic of this post or this blog, but I will say it does sometimes happen.
I know, you’re going to tell me than they’re not really counselors. But these are people who have the credentials and still put in their own personal feelings about something.
I think it’s nearly impossible for a human being not to at least once in awhile, even if they are a counselor and “not supposed to”.
This is such a great video – the outdoor scenes could be used as propaganda by OUR side to show how gentle and articulate and loving pro-life pickets are!
Wow. Stressful for the baby? Nothing like the stress of being sucked out of the womb or torn limb from limb! And ‘treated like an animal’ or inhumanly? Abortion is barbaric!
The pro-life people did not ‘judge’ (that scapegoat word) but offered help. It was guilt that brought on all those other feelings because they KNOW deep inside that abortion is murder and it is wrong. And they can deny it and everything else but it will live with them for the rest of their lives.
“Verbal assault”? “Attack?” The posted video has no value in showing such things. Calmly presenting factual information, even with an underlying sense of urgency, does not constitute an assault or an attack. An abortion decision is inherently stressful primarily because it has a grave consequence – the loss of a human being. At this clinic, the stress is increased because you basically have a verbal tug-of-war going on between one group that wants to avert the loss and another that thinks the loss is a necessary outcome. (Either group could stay home and avert this cause of stress.) The information presented by the pro-lifers may create stress because the underlying message in presenting the information is this: “abortion will result in the death of your child.” But, this message would only cause a person stress if, on some level, it rang true for that person. If the pro-lifers were totally off base with a message that was just beyond the realm of possibility, their message would not be bothersome or stressful. It’s because their message rings true that it causes stress. And if it’s true, and ringing true in the hearts of the abortion clients, then the pro-lifers are right to be in front of abortion clinics providing information that can help to avert an abortion. Just a note on the information provided – it may be good to say the name of the nearby pregnancy clinic two or three times, so that if the client changes her mind inside she can leave quietly and follow up with the pregnancy help clinic at a later time.
And BTW, counselors refrain from interjecting their personal opinion into the process.
Thank goodness my counselors interjected their personal opinions regarding my defending staying in an violent marriage:
“Do you even realize you are being abused?”
“The rocks in his head fill the holes in yours.”
” You may not love yourself enough to leave, but you are obligated to protect your children.”
“You are at high risk of becoming an alcoholic, if you are not already one,” after I admitted my weekly alcohol intake.
“By tolerating abuse, you are teaching your children to grow up to be either abusers or victims.”
The way I was thinking and FEELING was not rational (my perceptions were skewed, GOP) and I needed others who cared about me and my children to point this out. FEELINGS are not right or wrong, they just are. However, the FACT was that I was allowing my children to see my husband to abuse me and rationalizing that our family was just fine.
This woman’s feelings and perceptions are completely irrational. To avoid telling her so in the name of protecting her feelings is not in her best interest. This is where the saying, “Sometimes the truth hurts” comes from. The second part of the saying is the good part though, “but it will also set you free.”
Thanks Jill for telling this young lady the truth in a mature way. What she does with the truth from this point on, is up to her.
@Lana whatever reason she has, I thank her and hope she posts more.
I heard the kind voice offering all kinds of care for the woman, not just the baby. The more people who hear that, the better.
Oh, cry me a river! Trauma? How about being told by everyone that your baby is nothing, so go ahead and abort it. Then later you channel-surf and see a baby younger than yours full of life, jumping around like a Mexican jumping bean. That would be trauma.
Lana, I hear what you’re saying, I just think you’re wrong. If people were lined up standing SILENTLY (which they were) outside of my dental surgeon’s office and a woman came up and said “Please don’t have your wisdom teeth removed. We can help you. We can offer other options. We want to help you. We can give you a free ultrasound of your teeth.” I’d probably think she was nuts but I wouldn’t be ashamed. I might even see what alternatives she offers to surgery.
Even if they were out there chanting begging me not to “kill my teeth” I would not be ashamed. What is it about ABORTION that makes it so different? That makes them defensive from the get go? No matter what we would do they would feel “harassed”. Is your point that we should not be out there? That we should allow women to parade into these clinics and kill their children with nary a peep from society? What about the women that REALLY WANT help and are looking up till the last minute for SOMEONE to say “We will help you!” Should we just mind our own business and not offer any help lest any woman feel “harassed”?
@Sydney. I remember the oral surgeon putting my x-rays up to the light box to show me what he was going to remove. I guess he was anti-woman and insulting me. How dare he?
Thanks for your good example. I’m going to steal it. With proper credit of course. :-).
I had quite a different take on this video. Call me cynical, but I think it was made on purpose, an attemtp to be the “Lila Rose” of the pro-choice side, to expose the alleged “extremism”. The spinning of the end result was done on purpose, in my opinion.
They must have been very disappointed with the peaceful calm pro-lifers.
I say this as a former pro-choicer myself.
i put a comment on the site, every saturday morning, but i have yet to see it.
Just curious, what would happen if a pro-lifer posed as a person going into the clinic? Would she feel ashamed, embarassed, harrassed, etc. by the clinic escort? Maybe that’s the next video for Live Action.
I think it is important to remember that neither the gal making the video or her friend were actually pregnant. They weren’t harassed on the sidewalk. They were trying to prove a point. In my humble opinion, even those here who have never ‘walked that walk’ to the clinic, been pregnant and choosing abortion, should ascribe feelings to something they have never done. As a proabort in 1990, and a veteran of the procedure, I *did* walk that walk and was more than able to ‘defend’ myself from far more ugly ‘harassment’. But it did accomplish what it was meant to accomplish; I was more conflicted about having an abortion. Seeing now the mistakes that I’ve made, and how the pro-lifers repeatedly tried to warn me, I can say with all honesty, there are many needs of women walking to those clinics. Some need information, some need options, and some need jolted. We need to be sensiive to it all, and I believe that more women who have walked that walk need to be there reaching out to these women, and everyone else should support the true ‘experts’. IMO.
Just some final thoughts on how this deathscort provided such a wonderful, valuable service to the prolife cause. The saying “do the right thing even when you think no one is watching” is proven to be true here. Maybe the sidewalk counselor saw the camera, maybe she didn’t. Safe to say she had no idea she was going to end up with this much exposure. But, it doesn’t matter. There is such freedom in doing what is right.
Pro-aborts, please record us every chance you get. This will help us on two levels. First, it publicizes the good work that we do. Second, we are human, fallible beings so prone to sin like anyone else. If you do film someone acting in an irresponsible or unkind way, we will work to correct that behavior.
Although, as I said before, my suspicion would be a pro-abort poser first. But, I sure know that I am prone to sin!
We have nothing to fear, because we are doing what is right, even if there are hidden cameras around.
Thank you, guest blogger for your post and video. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Hilarious.
Traumatic? Really?
Life must be really good and really soft and cushy if that is “traumatic”!
Sheesh, maybe that is why women were long referred to as the weaker sex.
Chick has been such a princess for so long, she has lost touch with reality.
She is an embarrassment to women on so many levels.
People are getting shot at in Iraq and Afghanistan and this chick is traumatized by some lady offering her free help?
Surreal!!!
“I would hate to walk through that line, but wouldn’t you, isn’t that the point, to make women feel so uncomfortable and have so many doubts that she leaves the line?”
Actually, no. It is to offer her help, so she doesn’t do what her parents and boyfriend have told her that she must do. Her parents are ashamed and don’t want to fork out the money to help. Her boyfriend demands sex and demands that she not have that baby. He doesn’t love her or her baby. He just likes to have sex with her. However, prolifers who will never get anything from her are willing to help her and love her and her baby and give her what she needs in medical services, counseling, baby stuff and just plain sympathy and hand holding. She won’t be getting that from mom, dad or Mr. Stud. They don’t want to hear her excuses for getting pregnant. Her job is to work so her parents can be proud of her. And her duty to Mr. Stud is to provide for his sexual enjoyment. Her feelings and her baby don’t matter to them at all. They are a nuisance to them, period.
“Oh yeah, and if you’re raped your baby should totally die!”
How come they never want the rapist to die?
Wouldn’t that make more sense?
“Telling a woman, who has made a decision to terminate a pregnancy, that she is “killing her baby” is judgemental and not part of the counseling process.”
It is a statement of fact.
“And yeah, I am qualified to talk about this because I do have an advanced degree in counseling”
Well, when counseling of the sort you do doesn’t include facing reality, is it any wonder the counseling industry has grown by leaps and bounds? People pay to have a professional help them rationalize their dysfunction. Pretty addictive and pretty profitable.
hippie says:
May 15, 2011 at 10:39 am
“Oh yeah, and if you’re raped your baby should totally die!”
How come they never want the rapist to die?
Wouldn’t that make more sense?
Naaa…’cause a RAPIST can defend himself against someone trying to kill him, a RAPIST can speak up and say “don’t kill me”. They only want someone killed who is totally helpless, defenseless and voiceless. Nothing pro-aborts do makes any “sense”.
“Telling a woman, who has made a decision to terminate a pregnancy, that she is “killing her baby” is judgemental and not part of the counseling process. ”
“Counseling” a 16 year old girl that she is NOT killing her baby and supporting the decision of her boyfriend, her boyfriend’s mother and two other adult authority figures (that also supported the boyfriend), to “terminate” the pregnancy by skipping school, flying to Dallas on an airplane, having an abortion, and returning home without ever telling her parents is exploitive, dishonest, and abusive. And that is exactly the “counseling” I received from Planned Parenthood. There was NO ONE on that sidewalk in Dallas for me back on December 19, 1984. That’s right. We never forget.
“Abortion isn’t child abuse – something I dealt with while I worked as a social worker with protective services.”
I disagree. Abortion is the ultimate form of child abuse. My baby DIED because of my “choice”. I have had four miscarriages and with each one of those miscarriages I grieved. Abortion is no different. They were our children.
“And yeah, I am qualified to talk about this because I do have an advanced degree in counseling”
Thank God I have two degreed counselors who actually recognize abortion as a painful form of trauma and abuse. Post-abortion trauma is real and devastates a person’s life. That is why many of those people you see on the sidewalks trying to help are women who are post-abortion. But like Carla says and no one acknowledging her comment proves:
“Stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and shake your head assume that those that have experienced an abortion don’t know the truth.”
Thank you Lisa for sharing your experience. Thankfully for the counselors who recognized the PTSS of abortion. Please continue to reach out to help women avoid abortion. We honor you and support your courage.
Just Friday, as I was out in front of out local PP, a young woman drove up with her cute dog. She was post-abortive (2 abortions – one surgical, one medical, both terrible). And she wanted to see if she could help tell her story so others would not have to have the aftermath of abortion.
She is a courageous woman, hoping to make a difference and help other women. In fact, she brought a young woman, 3 months pregnant who was going to go into PP for assistance (there is no assistance for pregnant women except to have an abortion or a referral for one), to get services at other local agencies. We are arranging for a free ultrasound too. I am looking forward to partnering with this young woman. She has a heart of gold! And Lisa, you do too! ;)
Sydney M,
I actually sort of disagree about your tooth analogy. If 50 people were outside of my dentist protesting my decisions to go to the dentist I would feel uncomfortable. I would think ‘oh crap’ what if this isn’t a good dentist office, what if the surgery is dangerous, what if these people are right. I wouldn’t need the situation to be potentially ‘sinful’ for me to second-guess my judgment.
If there were a line of people protesting me from going into CVS to buy a box of tampons, I would be dissuaded from going inside. While this would accomplish the protestor’s goal, it wouldn’t fundamentally mean there is something wrong with my buying tampons, only that I am uncomfortable walking past a large group of people to do it…
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What about the women that REALLY WANT help and are looking up till the last minute for SOMEONE to say, “We will help you!” Should we just mind our own business and not offer any help lest any woman feel “harassed”?
By all means help any woman who wants help. But don’t follow her and walk with her, if she doesn’t want you to. If the girl said “please stop talking” “do not follow me” do you think the escort should stop? Does it then become harassment if she doesn’t?
Why does NO ONE protest females buying tampons, Lana?
Why do so many people protest abortion?
Think about it. Then re-think about it. And then think again. Think hard. Real hard.
This girl gives an honest account of her feelings just walking by those protesters to see a doctor and you guys call her a liar… Ok. Your right a mob of protesters is not intimidating… All I see here is intimidation and harassment of women who are just trying to see their doctor for reasons that are none of your business. This should all be covered by FACE laws.
If you guys have such a problem with abortion then take it up with the supreme court they made it legal and stop trying to bully women outside doctors’ offices!
Biggz, the video clearly demonstrates she is a liar. No one here even has to say it because it’s soooo obvious.
Why do you even mention or point out blogs and videos like this? That blog has 3 comments after all this time.
Its a non-event and an epic fail. Even if no one else saw it it wouldn’t matter. Would just be an epic fail no one saw. Nothing new or surprising here.