Jivin J’s Life Links 6-14-11
by JivinJ, host of the blog, JivinJehoshaphat
- While the Center for Reproductive Rights doesn’t want to challenge 20-week fetal pain measures, they’ve already challenged Texas’ ultrasound law.
- TX Gov. Rick Perry spoke at a pro-life rally in Los Angeles over the weekend. The goal of the rally was to raise funds for a pro-life women’s health center in South LA.
- A Connecticut state senator added a parental consent for abortion amendment on to a bill to create parental consent for minor tanning. This led to the bill not being voted on. Amazingly, some people just can’t see the parallels:
“If you can have parental consent for minors for ear-piercing or tanning, why shouldn’t you have parental consent for minors for abortions?” he said Monday.
Derek Slap, communications director for the Senate Democrats, called [Michael] McLachlan’s argument “ridiculous.”
“He knows exactly what he’s doing,” Slap said. “This is political grandstanding.”
The bill in question would have required parents to accompany their child under the age of 18 to a tanning parlor, learn of the risks of tanning, then sign a permission slip on site before their child could use the tanning facilities.
- The Ledger has a story about the woes of FL abortion advocates:
Sheryll Strang of Winter Haven has spent more than 20 years promoting the right of women to have abortions, and she said she can’t remember a time as glum for her cause as now.
In its session that ended May 7, the Florida Legislature passed 5 bills that critics say will make abortion less accessible.
“I would say it’s probably the worst,” Strang said, describing each of the bills as 8 or higher on a negative scale of 1 to 10.
- The Des Moines Register editorial staff thinks doctors prescribing potentially dangerous abortion drugs via web cam without ever physically examining patients is medical progress. They also think nurses should be allowed to prescribe abortion pills, though they don’t provide any argument for why.
- A tabloid scandal in Britain involves a famous soccer player, his brother’s wife and abortion:
She found she was carrying her secret lover Ryan’s [pictured top left] child, it is claimed, just weeks before she was due to marry his brother Rhodri [pictured bottom left].
And the 28-year-old has spoken of the moment she broke the shattering news to the Manchester United legend, who, she alleges, told her she must have an abortion. She said [Ryan] Giggs, 37, even cycled to a meeting with her with £500 to pay for the termination – £200 short.
Speaking of the moment she discovered she was expecting, Natasha [pictured center left] said: “All I kept thinking was, ‘I’m getting married to Rhodri next month and I’m pregnant to Ryan, his brother’.
“I said to Ryan, ‘I don’t know how to say it but I’m pregnant’. He said, ‘To me?’ and I said, ‘Yes’. Then he said, ‘How sure are you?’ and I told him, ‘A million per cent’. That’s when he told me there was only one option.
“Ryan told me straight off, ‘You know there’s only one option, a termination. We can’t ruin everybody’s life’.” …
She said: “He handed me £500, saying that was all he could get out.
“I just said, ‘OK, whatever’. I’d never asked him for money so it was very difficult. I was very upset, very tearful.
“He just said, ‘Right. OK, I’ll see you tomorrow. Good luck’.”
[Photos via football-talk.co.uk and newsmediaimages.com]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
News tip in the ongoing IN PP funding battle:
Planned Parenthood loses tax credit due to new law
PPIN said that Indiana’s Housing and Community Development Authority rejected its application for a tax credit.
5:33 p.m. EDT, June 13, 2011
http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-planned-parenthood-planned-parenthood-loses-tax-credit-due-to-new-law-20110613,0,6879010.story
I just don’t understand why anyone, pro-life or pro-choice, would think it’s ok for a minor to have any surgical procedure without parental consent. It’s not even an abortion issue, it’s common sense. Kids shouldn’t go under the knife without a parent’s ok.
Ryan Giggs-> You wimp. Yea, don’t let your child get in the way of you kicking the ball around the park.
Yeah, that Ryan Giggs… what a SELFISH JERK. He not only betrayed his wife and children but he betrayed his own brother too… and to top it all off, lest anyone stand in the way of his pride and lust… he is willing to have his own baby torn apart. That story just made me ANGRY. How can any feminist not see how abortion is the way in which men control women and get away with acting like PIGS!
Sleeping with your brother’s wife and then trying to convince her to get an abortion to hide her crime is the ultimate in hypocrisy and misogyny. Reeeaaalll respectful of women, eh?
Sidney – Without abortion her only option is to have her brother-in-laws baby… That would just be the next in a line of tragedies in this story.
Abortion does not cause men to act like pigs; we can do that without abortion. He never cared about her in the first place, why would he care when she becomes pregnant? He is an A**hole plain and simple. Fifty years ago he would have just punched her in the stomach until she started bleeding.
Abortion is an option for women not men. The choice is hers. Yes there were some choices she could have made better before all this happened but that is history and now she faces this choice.
Regarding parental consent – I understand the concern about how the parent should be able to determine what is best for their child. That being said, if I had an underage child who was pregnant, I would drive her ASAP to the nearest abortion provider. See, it works both ways.
No Biggz… without abortion a beautiful, innocent, sweet baby would be alive and breathing today and two selfish people might have learned the world doesn’t revolve around THEM and their desire for orgasms.
If my 17yo daughter came to me and said she wanted an abortion I would ask her if she understood what abortion is and if she had discussed it with her mother. In the end if she still wanted to have an abortion I would consent and support her every step of the way. That being said, I am seriously looking forward to being a grandpa =)~ All the fun dad stuff with no heavy parenting… I can hardly wait but I will until my daughter is ready to start her own family.
But Biggz, would you want someone performing a medical procedure on your minor child without your consent? I would never, ever (unless it were an emergency) want someone performing surgery on my kids without my consent. EVER! I am their parent, I have a right to do what I think is best for my children. When they are eighteen that choice is theirs, but before them it is my duty as their father to protect them how I see fit.
CC,
That is your right as a parent, as much as I disagree. I hope you would see if the child wanted an abortion at least. But do you think that my right to be informed about my daughter should be taken away? How would you feel if you found out one of your kids had a serious medical procedure done and no one even asked you?
@CC – That being said, if I had an underage child who was pregnant, I would drive her ASAP to the nearest abortion provider. See, it works both ways.
What is she wanted to have the baby? Shouldn’t she have a choice? Your comments show that you are not pro-choice, you are pro-abortion.
@Biggz – You look forward to being a grandfather, but at the same time you would glady take your daughter to the clinic to destroy that very grandchild? To me that doesn’t make sense.
Sydney – If the would be parents are two selfish people who think the world revolves around them and their desire for orgasms, what makes you think they would be any different after the child was born? If they cannot have sex responsibly what in the world makes you think they could parent responsibly? Would you hand your baby to one of these people to babysit for a week while you were in Mexico on vacation? I certainly wouldn’t.
If you cannot handle sex responsibly then you certainly cannot handle being a parent. Adoption is a good option in most cases but not all and there are many children waiting to be adopted as we speak.
We are talking about irresponsible and immature people here not good parents…
That being said, if I had an underage child who was pregnant, I would drive her ASAP to the nearest abortion provider.
Well, you must be so disappointed that you killed your children before you had the wonderful opportunity to escort them to the murder of your grandchildren. Poor you.
Hey, CC, how’s that hugging and cuddling? Tell me, does your “medical waste” hug you back? Does your “medical waste” color you a picture to put on your refrigerator? Will your “medical waste” speak up on your behalf when it’s your turn to be euthanized?
Jack – That falls on the parent. My daughter would never have a medical procedure without my consent. If your daughter went off to have an abortion without telling you then there is a serious problem in your relationship with your daughter. My daughter is not afraid to talk to my wife or me about anything.
Parents need to take responsibility for their children’s actions and stop yelling for someone else to keep them informed about what their child is doing.
I do not need my daughters high school to call me and tell me she is missing a class, because she already talked to me about it and I am well informed about her missing a class to be at her Big Brothers and Sisters Event this Friday.
Parental consent is only needed by parents who do not have a open relationship with their kids. If they had an open relationship with their kids they might not be getting pregnant in the first place.
Ninek – You might be Pro-life but your comments sure sound like they were written by an immature troll. Try thinking like an adult for a change instead of just trying to offend everyone with insults….
See, Biggz, I think that argument falls flat on its face. Teenagers make rash ill-informed decisions all the time, even with great relationships with their parents. Teenage brains are not fully developed, especially in regards to impulse control and decision making. Hell, I’m twenty-three and apparently my brain hasn’t completely stopped developing! That’s why teenagers are required to have permission for all kinds of different things. Until they are legally out of our care, we as parents and a society have a responsibility to help teens make decisions.
If my daughter rashly tried to get an abortion without talking to me or her mother, yes, I would examine my parenting and our relationship and try to find out where the breakdown in communication came from. But, I would also expect that our society would have laws in place to assist parents and teens in these kind of situations. My daughter can’t even get a tattoo without my say-so, why in the world can she have an invasive medical procedure?
Of course, my daughter is six months old, so all this is moot for several years. It is still very concerning to me.
Because Jack, when a teenager hemorrages alone in her room, her parents don’t need to know. When a teenager struggles with the post-abortive hormonal shifts she can’t understand, you don’t need to know. When a teen feels sorrow or pain after an abortion or has been sexually assaulted before the abortion, you don’t need to know. If a teenager becomes depressed after her abortion, you don’t need to know, after all, according to Abortioneers’ blog, she was depressed before the abortion, don’t ya know.
Biggz, my comments to CC were a continuation of remarks we exchanged on another thread. That being said, I have really lost patience with all you abortion fans and your cowardly, child-hating deathmongering.
You advocate for tearing children limb from limb inside their mothers and you have the nerve to get judgemental with me for a little verbal banter on a website. Yes, verbal banter is sooooo much more wrong than sucking a little child out of his mother’s womb. Ooooh, I feel so chastized.
I still love ya ninek :-)
I love you too Ninek!
Biggz… I have watched immature, selfish adults be transformed into mature, selfless parents before my very eyes. I would say I was one. I wasn’t cheating on my husband or running around chasing orgasms but I was a pretty selfish person before I became a mother. To really be a mother I was forced to put myself second and my son first. Embracing motherhood made me a better person.
Another was my employee who had an abortion and continued her selfish ways. She became an alcoholic. She was depressed. She got pregnant again and planned to abort again but finally decided on life. She transformed like a butterfly into this wonderful mother and wife. Gone was the endless drinking, wasting money, sexcapades, depression etc… she told me giving birth to her daughter helped heal her of her abortion.
Anyhow, children have a way of transforming most of us into better people. And even if we stayed selfish, creepy losers, our children should not have to die for our shortcomings.
Why is it so hard to understand that you don’t become a grandparent because of an event in a hospital delivery room or the backseat of a cab? You become a grandparent at the moment of conception!
Each generation is bridged by dna, not your whimsical attitude of which life deserves your concern.
Hey, CC, how’s that hugging and cuddling? Tell me, does your “medical waste” hug you back? Does your “medical waste” color you a picture to put on your refrigerator? Will your “medical waste” speak up on your behalf when it’s your turn to be euthanized.
Wow, the verbal histrionics just get stranger. Who “cuddles” single folks or people whose children have died or live in another part of the country? ”Medical Waste” – seriously, get some professional help because your fantastical thinking seems to be getting the better of you!
Ninek@ you are my hero!
Bigzz@ Ninek is exactly right. You want to chastise pro-lifers over every little dot of the i and cross of the t but you fail to look at the fact that the very reason you even come to this page at all is to advocate to have children torn limb from limb.
CC@ No, Ninek is the one in reality, people who argue and advocate to kill babies need “professional help”. It’s a crazy screwy mixed up world that we live in where people who try to save lives are the bad guys and the ones who advocate for the killing are deemed by themselves the sane ones. Step back for a minute out of your pro-choice rhetoric and listen to yourself. Listen to what you are really saying, “I deserve the right to pay to have my baby torn apart limb by limb and it’s head crushed for any reason that I deem necessary or for that matter no reason at all and I deserve the right to force my underage daughter to do the same thing. It is my right as a woman to kill my offspring, yay me! And all of you pro-lifers who care enough to try and stop me are psychotic and in need of medication!” Uh Hu! Sounds logical to me IF you are in the rabbit hole with Alice talking to the Mad Hatter!
“Because Jack, when a teenager hemorrages alone in her room, her parents don’t need to know. When a teenager struggles with the post-abortive hormonal shifts she can’t understand, you don’t need to know. When a teen feels sorrow or pain after an abortion or has been sexually assaulted before the abortion, you don’t need to know. If a teenager becomes depressed after her abortion, you don’t need to know, after all, according to Abortioneers’ blog, she was depressed before the abortion, don’t ya know.”
Thanks ninek, now I want to lock my daughter indoors until she is thirty. ;p