Pro-choice video compares “Until Abortion Ends” website to failed New Year’s resolutions
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeno9kiGRuI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]But the thing about this website is that if you scan through and look at what everyone is sacrificing, almost everyone is giving something up that you really should be giving up anyway, because it’s bad for you. They’re all promising to sacrifice something that’s really crappy and you should be cutting down on it just for health purposes.
Like seriously, go to the site and look at what everyone says they’re giving up. “I’m giving up Coke,” “I’m giving up Pepsi,” “alcohol,” “I’m giving up tobacco products,” “Ice cream,” “French Fries,” “I’m giving up sour Skittles,” “I’m giving up junk food,” “I’m giving up carbs and saturated fat.”
That’s not really a protest. That’s not really a sacrifice. That’s just, like, a diet. You’re just taking another shot at your New Year’s resolution and calling it a protest this time. No, that doesn’t count, no.
~ Jay Smooth, criticizing the Until Abortion Ends website, Ill Doctrine via Abortioneers, December 22
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
they dont want abortion off the table. abortion is a cancer growing out of control. i was only about 3 when it became legal but if im not mistaken the ” bastions of tolerance ” promised it would only be used in cases of rape or incest and that it would prevent child abuse. as we can see this is not the case. child abuse has sky rocketed. many post abortive women turn to drugs so our foster care systems are full. the respect for life is gone. we have women aborting for reasons like being able to fit into a wedding dress ( i cant remember who found that on a site.) my girlfriend was telling me the other day that she had a friend on her 7th abortion already. remember hitlary ” lets keep abortion safe legal and rare.” so much for that.
but get out on the sidewalk with your graphic sign and watch them go nuts. then you point to planned parentless behind you and say ” make some phone calls and help us get them out of here.” oooooooh noooooooo! they want abortion but they dont want to see it! their rage level is unreal! if my tax dollars are funding this i have a right to be there. i love the people who threaten me with the cops. ive gotten creative. i blew one guy away when i whipped out my cell phone and offered to call on myself. i had one of the other pro lifers in stitches that day;)
abortion has pitted men against women women against men and both men and women against their children. and those who want it legal are against God.
oh yeah and where is cc? listen one last time cc. you say that we pro lifers are harassing you ladies going into the clinic. i dont care what you want to call it. it is a procedure that goes against every bone in my body. it has hurt countless women and men. it a slap in my Gods face and it is paid for on my tax dollars. you can keep trying to make me feel bad about being on the sidewalk. it wont work. i will be there.
It sounds like he’s never sacrificed something he desires. He can make fun of people for desiring things that aren’t good for them, but heck, he desires safe, legal access to abortion and that isn’t good for anyone!
The fact that he calls their sacrifice a “protest” shows just how much he doesn’t get it.
Wonder what HE would be willing to give up to KEEP abortion?
Giving up killing and supporting the killing of unborn humans is just not something Mr. Smoothy is willing to give up.
In actuality he is not willing to give up his rights to use females for his own jollies and it doesn’t matter who dies in the process.
What a SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH cat.
well hes a typical abortion loving male. he can have meaningless sex with a partner he can dispose of and he wants the avenue clear so that the woman can dispose the child. then the cowards chant “her body her choice.” ( but i hope she chooses abortion ) then onto the next. and women dont respect themselves anymore sayin “hos before embryos” “hos before bros” “no fetus can beat us.” wow! then women want respect? hahaha. once you give it up the jokes on you.
I love how he’s accidentally endorsing Prohibition. “Coke, alcohol, ice cream, and french fries are always bad for you, guys! Everyone should be giving these things up anyway!”
Besides, even if he were entirely, and right the protest does amount to eating healthier, in general, why shouldn’t doing the right thing (protesting abortion) have good secondary results?
* …were entirely right, and the protest…
Rawr.
How is giving up junk food or soda supposed to stop abortion anyway?
I have to say, the brother’s got a point. On the sacrifice part, that is.
Hey, smooth, you don’t think sacrifice counts? OK. Then instead, count how much money Planned Parenthood ISN’T getting this year. Yep, count that. Have fun and happy new year!!
To his point- yes and no.
The idea of sacrficing or fasting from a *legitimate* (not sinful) pleasure is nothing new for Christians. Lent, anyone? Still…. sacrificing or fasting from something kinda bad for you could also be called a partial diet by an unbeliever, I get that. They wouldn’t value the intention behind the sacrfice.
I say we Fast anyway. Do it with a smile, and maybe don’t tell anyone. Attach your sacrifice to fervent prayer that the violence of abortion will end. Jesus is listening. Don’t you think He cares what we are willing to do to stop such horrible
treatment of humans in our midst?
Prayer counts. We don’t need to worry about tips from people who can’t even see how cruel the practice of abortion is. Hey, let’s pray and sacrifice for them, too!!
Hey, bub! You want safe, legal, and affordable access to the gruesome execution of the youngest and most innocent victims on the planet?
Will you at least do us (your enemies) a favor and give up (you know: “sacrifice”) the contradictory term “reproductive freedom”?
The Mafia didn’t call putting out a contract on someone a way to make a new friend.
But you do have an apt name for your website: “illdoctrine”. Kudos on that.
Absolutely Mary Ann! Prayer and fasting, much needed these days. I like the quote on the Until Abortion Ends site:
“Prayer united to sacrifice is the most powerful force on earth.” -Archbishop Fulton Sheen
Happy Holidays everyone. Hope you all are healthy, content, and spending time with those you love.
“many post abortive women turn to drugs so our foster care systems are full.”
And the data supporting this statement is? Our foster care systems are full because there are too few foster parents to care for abused, neglected children whose parental figure/s may or may not have had abortion. But if abortion is criminalized, there will be lots more babies born (Yay, right?) to women who cannot, for whatever reason, support them. So the foster care system will be swamped and the overflow will go to the orphanages – but wait, states don’t have the money to set up orphanages which have been, especially in Ireland, hotbeds of sexual and physical abuse. But when women, who cannot and should not, give birth, everybody will live happily ever after. Right?
“Then instead, count how much money Planned Parenthood ISN’T getting this year. Yep, count that”
Congress did not defund Planned Parenthood which is still being funded, thanks to court injunctions, in states which attempted to defund it. New Hampshire (thought they were so slick) is getting Planned Parenthood funds from the federal government. So if you’re counting, the bottom line won’t be as great as you think!
Funny video. As he points out, the irony is delicious. As we continue to fight for abortion rights, the pro-lifers will be getting healthy. Given that a bunch of enlightened states, including mine, will never criminalize abortion, there will be some svelte and healthy pro-lifers out there.
I can’t wait till CC’s enlightened state criminalizes abortion! LOL!
“I can’t wait till CC’s enlightened state criminalizes abortion! LOL!”
Given that the majority of legislators, the governor, and the general populace (despite being the “most Catholic state” LOL) are pro-choice, it won’t be happening any time soon in lil Rhode Island which was founded on tolerance. Used to be that the Catholic bishop had lot of clout. Not any more!
Abortion is safe in RI, CT, Vermont, Mass., and NY. Oregon, Washington, and California will not, any time soon, criminalize abortion. But if the rest of the states do, those pro-choice states will welcome abortion travelers. But once again, poor women who can’t travel will be penalized. Oh, right, when the baby is born, everybody will live happily ever after. And BTW, for the women of NH and Maine, beautiful, liberal, and pro-choice Canada is only a short distance.
“Our foster care systems are full because there are too few foster parents to care for abused, neglected children whose parental figure/s may or may not have had abortion.”
But legal abortion promised: PRO-CHOICE. PRO-CHILD. EVERY CHILD A WANTED CHILD.
What you support ain’t fixing the problem as promised by those who support the legalized killing of a part of our population, CC.
Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results but getting more of the same is the definition of INSANITY. Being pro-choice to kill unborn humans is INSANE.
The Good News is the more and more folks are becoming enlightened about the insanity of your position, CC.
“But legal abortion promised: PRO-CHOICE. PRO-CHILD. EVERY CHILD A WANTED CHILD.”
And who or what entity “promised” this? I don’t remember any promises other than the promise that you would be able to choose when and if you wanted to be a parent which was a whole lot better than what existed prior to that. I lived it. Did you? And BTW, I attended a Catholic high school where if parents had the means, their daughter got a D&C. Daughters of poorer parents didn’t have the option and that’s where S*&T happened.
Happy Days – right!
What’s wrong with the wish that every child be wanted? Do you actually think it’s acceptable for children to be unwanted? Really?
Hi, Hal! Happy holidays!
(aka the 4H comment)
“And who or what entity “promised” this?”
Those who call themselves pro-choice. Oh my,what a selective memory you have.
“I don’t remember any promises other than the promise that you would be able to choose when and if you wanted to be a parent which was a whole lot better than what existed prior to that.”
One becomes a parent once you conceive a human. If you don’t want to be a parent, don’t behave in ways that may cause conception. Simple. Was true back then, is still true today.
“And BTW, I attended a Catholic high school where if parents had the means, their daughter got a D&C.”
And some parents beat their children. Beating children was just as wrong when you attended Catholic high school as it is today. And it doesn’t matter how much money the parent has to cover it up or fight it. Beating children is wrong. Aborting children is wrong as well.
The Good News is that more and more folks are becoming enlightened about the insanity of your position, CC.
Yes, troll, it is totally acceptable for a child to be unwanted before birth and ALIVE at birth. Approximately one million American families are WAITING for children, so no child is completely unwanted at all.
“Every child a wanted child” was quite a popular slogan in the not-to-distant past. I’m curious, though, about this amnesia that abortion advocates seem to have. Now, if an abortion advocate gets old, and her mind begins to break down, how will she know? What if she forgets? What if the anmesia progresses so far that she becomes an advocate for life? Lol!!
One of the old folks that I visit regularly used to really hate ‘all that religious BS.’ Bill is pretty sharp in the mind and keeps up on current events. Funny thing, he’s forgotten that he cussed at me the day we met, he remembers that he had lost faith in faith. He told me recently how much he values his faith now. He told me how depressed he once had been during the course of his illness (I met him at the tail end of that depression). Today, he enjoys what he can still do (so what if he can’t run a marathon or do heavy lifting?). He has a joy of living today that he didn’t have if you’d stopped in to visit at a certain point in time during the past.
So, dear readers, have heart and be of good courage. Even the most strident anti-lifer that comments today can become loving, cheerful, and even take back some of the angry things that once were said. She could turn around with full use of her faculties, or, she might forget how much she once loved killing people. Either way…
It’s never too late to embrace life!
Every child a wanted child.
Every unwanted child, a dead child.
If abortion went back to the states, then when the majority of the states in the US criminalized abortion, they would look at those which did not as unlettered barbarians.
Since the shoe fits, and all.
The whole notion of ‘wanted’ is as unscientific and objective as an idea can get. When I fill out a job application, does my prospective employer ask if I was a ‘wanted’ child? When I go on a first date, do I ask my dining partner if he was ‘wanted’ or not? When a teenager is wheeled into the emergency room because of an accident, does the attending doctor ask if he was ‘wanted’ or not?
No. No. and No. So, then, abortion advocates, is it really rational to use degree of ‘wantedness’ to justify the destruction of a pre-born human being? No, it’s not rational. It’s crazy town. Years from now, anthropologists will write papers and publish books about this phenomena of how tens of millions of children were slaughtered for no reason (on demand without apology). They will speculate on how the media bias and how personal bias could have been so widespread and so destructive. Our abortion advocating trolls have enjoyed winning many battles for many years. But guess what? You’re on the defensive and your lines are being pushed back. You’re losing the war against the pre-born child, just like you will lose the war against the elderly and infirm. Get used to losing. Get very, very used to it. You think 2011 was a bad year for Planned Parenthood? We’ve only just begun!
Doh! I meant to write “subjective” not objective but the editing feature failed to load. That’s ok, you know where I was going with that..
“If abortion went back to the states, then when the majority of the states in the US criminalized abortion, they would look at those which did not as unlettered barbarians.”
Which would be pretty silly, because the states that would readily ban abortion would also be the same states that routinely rank at or near the very bottom in terms of per capita income, education, obesity and heart disease, and other quality-of-life measurements, and the states in which it would remain legal would be the ones that rank at or near the top of those same lists. Somehow I doubt the citizens of Massachusetts, New York, Minnesota, etc. are going to be too wounded by people in Mississippi or Alabama deeming them to be “unlettered barbarians”.
“Somehow I doubt the citizens of Massachusetts, New York, Minnesota, etc. are going to be too wounded by people in Mississippi or Alabama deeming them to be “unlettered barbarians”
LOL! As if we want to be like those states with all those sterling quality of life indices. In addition to the ones you cited are teen pregnancy and infant mortality. The divorce rate is higher in the bible belt than it is in Massachusetts which, BTW, ranks highest in education and access to health care.
“Aborting children is wrong as well.”
Subjective value judgement not universally held. And, as the bard would say, therein lies the rub….
As Ace Ventura would say: Lo-hoo zuh-er!!
“…rank at or near the very bottom in terms of per capita income, education, obesity and heart disease, and other quality-of-life measurements”
And your point Joan? People with heart disease are barbarians? That’s almost as funny as your previous assertion that low IQ means low quality of life.
As a related aside, Cicero noted that the barbarians north of the Alps, although uneducated by Roman standards, displayed tremendous loyalty and morality compared to the citizens of Rome.
“Which would be pretty silly, because the states that would readily ban abortion would also be the same states that routinely rank at or near the very bottom in terms of per capita income, education, obesity and heart disease, and other quality-of-life measurements, and the states in which it would remain legal would be the ones that rank at or near the top of those same lists. Somehow I doubt the citizens of Massachusetts, New York, Minnesota, etc. are going to be too wounded by people in Mississippi or Alabama deeming them to be “unlettered barbarians”.”
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Apparently, the north isn’t all rainbows, ponies and roses as you make it sound since people from up north continue to migrate down south in rather large numbers.
cc you arent going to live forever. what big prize will you have won in the after life with your advocating the death of children? i tried to tell you that i am married to a pro life Jewish man. he jokes around and calls me a JAP. we have a son together. my husbands brother is also pro life. i mean where did you ever get this notion that Jewish people were pro choice?
say joan i hear they are coming out with “weekend at bernies” part 2 3 4 5 6 and 7. i believe that they are on number 3 of ” meet the fockers “
Readers, on behalf of all the nice people I know from the north eastern part of the US, I would like to apologize for the ethnic slurs perpetrated here by folks claiming to be from the north east. Please don’t judge them all by the comments of a few bad apples.
cc well you are indeed talking to a svelte pro lifer here. i had 4 kids and went right back to being a size 6. no stretch marks either…but so what? i guess perhaps im missing your point but are you saying that pro lifers eat like hogs pop out babies and stay fat? look at plenty of hollywood moms. i believe pro life model heidi klum was walking the runway a few weeks after giving birth to her 3rd child!
“i mean where did you ever get this notion that Jewish people were pro choice”
Gallup, Pew and other valid and reliable polling data. I have provided links, on a number of occasions, to these polls. In addition to polling, there are official statements about abortion from official representatives of Conservative and Reformed Judaism. Why don’t you ask your husband’s rabbi about this sometime. And BTW, if you’re a Gentile, you’re not a “JAP” but a “shiksa.”
“I would like to apologize for the ethnic slurs perpetrated here by folks claiming to be from the north east.”
LOL, you obviously don’t know the meaning of “ethnic slurs” because nobody here has disparaged anybody by race or ethnicity. And you obviously can’t deal with the reality that southern, bible belt states have poorer indices on a myriad of quality of life issues. And I am a proud resident of Rhode Island, a pro-choice state.
Those in the fetus worshiping community do live in an alternate universe!
cc lol my husband is Jewish so he c/lls me a JAP now i know you wish you were Jewish so dont be so jealous;)
“And you obviously can’t deal with the reality that southern, bible belt states have poorer indices on a myriad of quality of life issues. And I am a proud resident of Rhode Island, a pro-choice state.”
Obviously, the ONLY reason southern states do poorly is because more people down here want to see abortion criminalized. That’s the ONLY variable between the north eastern states and the south. Lol.
“southern, bible belt states have poorer indices on a myriad of quality of life issues.”
Especially lower are their levels of snottiness, elitism, callousness, sense of entitlement, and an immature need for validation, ie “I’m better than you.”
“cc lol my husband is Jewish so he c/lls me a JAP now i know you wish you were Jewish so dont be so jealous;”
So your husband is saying that you’re a Jewish American Princess. Interesting. Is your son being raised Jewish complete with a Bat Mitzvah? Do you celebrate Hanukkah and the high holy days? Just wondering because if your husband refers to you as a “JAP,” it suggests that you have taken on Jewish culture?
Eric, so right!
What’s sad is that there are young 20-something abortion advocates on the web that swear they aren’t eugenicists and that they don’t espouse the tactics and ideals of Margaret Sanger. But here, you see that the most death-mongering abortion advocates absolutely echo everything Sanger wrote and said, right down to the last detail. Do the 20-somethings know that? I think they probably don’t piece it together. Congruence isn’t exactly the hallmark of the abortion industry. It may as well be cc herself up on a soapbox in that famous photo, with her finger in the air, surrounded by KKK ladies in white hoods and sensible shoes.
In fact, I wouldn’t be suprised if she poses that way in front of the bathroom mirror, lol!!
Abortion fans, I hope to see you at the Walk for Life this year. You’ll be able to spot me easily: I’ll be wearing sneakers, a warm jacket, and carrying a bottle of water. LOLX10!!!
“Especially lower are their levels of snottiness, elitism, callousness, sense of entitlement, and an immature need for validation, ie “I’m better than you.”
Given their low quality of life characteristics, maybe they should want to be better. High teen pregnancy rates – yay! Lowest maternal health indices and highest number of uninsured – yay! Low educational outcomes – yay! But they have lots of babies cuz they’re pro-life so it’s all good. Yay!
So Ninek. How do you explain the close friendship between Sanger and WEB Dubois? And how do you explain MLK’s support for Planned Parenthood? Riddle me that. Without Sanger, American women would be the brood mares that you want them to be. Thanks to Sanger, women can control their reproductive destiny which is something that the fetus fetishists can’t accept.
Sanger saw poor women who lived lives of quiet and impoverished desperation as they kept giving birth. Or as that great jazz age song said, “the rich get rich and the poor get babies.” Ah, the good old days that the fetus cultists want to return to. Here’s the thing, Ninek, Sanger realized that in order to get out of poverty, poor women needed to control their reproduction – as middle class and wealthy women were able to do. But if it were up to you folks, women would stay poor and stay pregnant. Thanks to Sanger, that’s no longer the case – despite the fetus worshipers. “Ain’t we got fun!”
“Do the 20-somethings know that? I think they probably don’t piece it together.”
What they do know is that they want to able to access birth control and abortion and that Planned Parenthood is there for them.
cc then why do we still have tons of poor single women on welfare? i thought we had to kill poor children to remedy this situation?
cc is ignorant. but i must ask you what problems has abortion solved?
cc then why do we still have tons of poor single women on welfare?
Because the fathers of their children aren’t paying child support.
Because they lack job skills and education which are necessary to get off welfare.
Because some of them have physical and mental health issues which prevents them from working.
And Because, in some instances, they keep having children and thus are unable to re-enter the work force because of above cited reasons.
cc is ignorant. but i must ask you what problems has abortion solved
Prevented children from being born to women who don’t desire to give birth – for any reason. Lots less unwanted children born to women, who, in some cases, should not be giving birth for whatever reason.
And bases on my experience in welfare, many women who have had abortions, as a result of an unplanned pregnancy, are able to get off welfare more quickly as they don’t have to deal with another mouth to feed and are more quickly able to access employment without having to arrange more childcare. It can be a very good thing! And the same factors obtain for women who aren’t on welfare, too.
BUT cc i thought abortion was going to fix that. we have 2 million people locked up in prison. we shouldnt have 1 because abortion has been legal for 40 years. why should dads pay child support? heck many women take care of men now because of womens lib. it has confused women!
We’ve already answered about the “award” that MLK didn’t accept in person. I guess with the amnesia, you just don’t remember all the posts, comments, and links. I’m beginning to worry about your mental state. You wouldn’t want someone to catch on to your deterioration, would you? Someone might consider you a “useless eater” and snuff you before you want to be snuffed. Say for example you’re scheduled to escort more frightened women into the butcher shop in February, but in January, someone ELSE decides that you just aren’t compatible with life anymore. Are you going to allow yourself to be lead to the Soylent green factory willingly? Or will you fight for one more month of life?
You know, if you are indeed found to be mentally incompetent, someone else could exercise power of medical attorney over you. I’d be a little concerned about the amnesia, delusions, and clinical depression, if I were in your pointy little shoes.
“we have 2 million people locked up in prison.” – haven’t you heard of that asinine ‘war on drugs’?
Nothing to do with abortion.
right eric…..i agree. cc one day your health will decline. someone indeed may say time is up for you. do you have anything to do after you kill all the babies you can? will you move on to the elderly? you are one of the most ignorant women i have ever spoken to. abortion should make us all sad but not you. youre cheerleading for it.
oh reality you never heard that unwanted children should have been aborted due to unwantedness? thats one of the older ones.
““we have 2 million people locked up in prison.” – haven’t you heard of that asinine ‘war on drugs’?
Nothing to do with abortion.”
Well… a lot of drug abusers come from homes they are unwanted, unloved, and abused. According to a lot of pro-choice advocates, there are supposed to be a lot less of those people in existence since the legalization of abortion. Doesn’t seem to be the case.
FYI I think it’s horribly ineffective and counterproductive to jail drug offenders.
“Given their low quality of life characteristics, maybe they should want to be better.”
If they are already, on average, less snotty than Rhode Islanders, I’d say they are already better.
Heather: if im not mistaken the ” bastions of tolerance ” promised it would only be used in cases of rape or incest and that it would prevent child abuse.
Merry Christmas, Heather, and yeah – you’re mistaken.
“Coke, alcohol, ice cream, and french fries are always bad for you, guys! Everyone should be giving these things up anyway!”
Coke and (vanilla) ice cream is pretty darn good, and uh, what? Give up alcohol? Fugghedabbouddit.
French fries? Once in a while….
Jack: FYI I think it’s horribly ineffective and counterproductive to jail drug offenders.
For the most part, I agree, Jack. We’ve had “the war on drugs” like crazy and it’s consumed billions of Dollars and many lives, and made drugs quite expensive and hugely profitable. It’s filled the prisons. Not worth it.
I love the inverted snobbery as a response to being shown to achieving lower quality of life and educational indices.
Drop a scoop of ice-cream into the coke Doug – yum!
Bernard Nathanson admitted that the “thousands” of illegal abortions were an outright lie. What I do know is this: there were not 50 million abortions in the decades BEFORE the rampant marketing of abortion after Roe v Wade.
This is a more apt comparison: before Roe v Wade, a very small grove of trees burnt down. After Roe v Wade, between 1/3 and 1/4 of all saplings in the entire United States have been torched.
CC,
While you’re in your mad crush on the many Jews who have turned their backs on their faith, hoping many CINOs will join them, you may want to know that daughters have bat mitzvahs, sons bar mitzvahs.
oh hans i didnt catch that! thank you;) yeah i agree with jack and doug. we have too manypeople locked up and they come outworse then when they went in. my post to reality is that a lot of unwanted criminals should have been aborted because they were unwanted. not true. many just made poor choices. many were very wanted.
my post to reality should have asked this….are you saying that our prisons are housing 2 million people because they were unwanted? thats what abortion promised to eliminate. ask mary doug…she said that pro aborts were only going to use abortion in the most extreme cases. that isnt true. anyone care to explain?
“We’ve already answered about the “award” that MLK didn’t accept in person”
Right, with the propaganda spewed by his anti-choice niece Alveda King. But seriously, do you think a man as esteemed as MLK would allow his wife to accept an award from an organization of which he did not approve? And what about the WEB Dubois connection, Ninek. You didn’t answer that.
And regarding my alleged delusions. Look in the mirror, Ninek – your verbal histrionics don’t exactly comport with reality. Not only is your contention that pro-choicers are out to kill nursing home patients bizarre, it’s laughable in its idiocy. But please come to Providence with your fetus fetishist street theater. I can only imagine how you jump around while shouting stupid things at women whom you are harassing at Planned Parenthood. But if you can’t come to Providence, maybe you could provide a link on You Tube to your “baby” saving antics.
“thats what abortion promised to eliminate”
I was there at the time of Roe. As I stated there were no such “promises.” But once again, the anti-choice movement creates a meme out of whole cloth and spins it into an alternative reality.
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@Pamela
“Wonder what HE would be willing to give up to KEEP abortion?”
He’s willing to give up women’s health, children’s lives, and your money.
We were just commenting on an earlier thread about a man who’s been a deathscort for 21 years, who believes in killing people who are already born and grown up.
The troll’s request to see a video of myself is a little stalkerish. If you want to see me, come to the Walk for Life. Stand on the sidewalk and counter-protest. Come see all thousands and thousands of us. Join us. It’s never too late to embrace life.
Man, I go to Wisconsin for the holidays and I miss this doozy!!
I live in Appalachia right now. There’s not a whole lot of money here, true, but we take care of each other, we greet each other on the street, we go to church and look in on our neighbors, we give away the things we don’t need to those who do. The air is sweet, the summer’s gorgeous, and we hardly miss not having an Ivy League school anywhere near us.My Phi Beta Kappa Key was impressing no one anyhow.
Give me the South any day of the universe’s life.
–from Courtnay, yankee by birth, southerner by the grace of GOD.
No Courtnay, you must be mistaken. You life can’t be wonderful if you live in Appalachia, because you must have a horrible life from having less money, being illiterate, eating poorly, and dragging your knuckles. Nothing else counts, not even loving your neighbors or taking care of each other. You simply CAN’T be happy unless you are snotty and live in an educated part of the US. Don’t believe me? Ask one of the regular posting trolls, and they’ll tell you that just because you are from the South, you are an uneducated idiot. Coming from Flyover Country myself, I know.
Oh, but Eric, you should see the view from my front porch. And it’s easy to find me: My town’s easy to navigate–one traffic light, and now it’s on blink,
I have lived in New York City, and now I live on the Cumberland Plateau. Quality of life? NO comparison.
Courtnay, I would take front porch view over crowded stuck-up suburbia any day. After experiencing every region of the US and more than 30 other countries, I have found “Flyover Country” has some of the most responsible, dedicated, loyal, honest, and hardest working people I have met.
Quality of life? I couldn’t agree more.
Then, Eric, if you’re ever in SE Tennessee, stop in for a beer. No degree necessary. ;)
Lol Courtnay, I look forward to dragging my knuckles on over there for a cold one. If you have connections to WI, I hope you stock Leinenkugel.
Well, just because CC says ridiculously uninformed, offensive crap about the South doesn’t mean that the NE has an inherently bad quality of life either. ;) I love Tennessee and especially South Carolina but I was born in Brooklyn and have never lived more than 45 minutes from Times Square – I live in Manhattan now, after nearly six years in Queens – and the quality of life up here is plenty good for me!
For me personally, I think probably the worst place to live would be one of those post-midcentury suburban developments. I like community; I find community in cities or small old towns, the kind with small old houses and sidewalks on every street and corner stores that people actually use sprinkled among the residential blocks. No cul-de-sacs or double-height entryways in sight. I spent my childhood in a Hudson River town and if I am being perfectly honest, ONE of the many reasons I am so active in helping my parents maintain the house in their old age (building stud walls, chainsawing fallen trees, fixing leaks, etc) is that I want to keep one foot in that little town.
Surely, with the exception of CC, we can all realize that quality of life is as good as the quality of the people living it, wherever they may be or prefer to be.
Alexandra, I lived on 8th and 44th, right across the street from the Majestic. Some folks thrive in that setting, true.
I agree with what you’re saying about community. I do. But for those of us in the fly over red states, what we see and experience from folks on both coasts is that we’re just a bunch of Walmart shoppin’ rubes who got hoodwinked by the Republican party. AGAIN. Do you remember when Obama said there were people like us who are angry, who cling to their guns and religion? Comments like that reveal so much.
You’re welcome for a beer, too. I have 20 acres and a front porch that looks on the mountains. If you time it right you can hear the train across the valley at sunset. Honey weiss for everyone!!!
“Alexandra, I lived on 8th and 44th, right across the street from the Majestic. Some folks thrive in that setting, true.”
Oh, I would die there, I think. I loved Astoria and now I am at the very northern tip of Manhattan, surrounded by parks and the river. I work right near where you lived, though – not the Majestic since it obviously hasn’t changed shows in decades, but in the Shubert and the St. James, right on that block, among other theaters. I don’t know why anyone bothers going to Times Square if not to work. :P I like to be at least 2 or 3 subway stops away, thank you very much!
I do know what you mean, about “flyover states” getting a lot of crap. I see it a lot and I always fight it. I just think the northeast, particularly NYC, gets a lot of crap too. So many politicians or pundits make insulting comments about “real Americans” and CONVENIENTLY those speeches never get made in cities or even regions like mine, to people like me. You know, where all those millions of unreal-Americans live. ;) Generalizations abound in almost any direction, really.
I am a beer girl at heart so if I’m ever back in Tennessee, I will certainly take you up on that! I was just there last autumn on work, though not anywhere near your part. If you’re ever back in Manhattan, I keep a fully-stocked fridge myself. ;)
for those of us in the fly over red states, what we see and experience from folks on both coasts is that we’re just a bunch of Walmart shoppin’ rubes who got hoodwinked by the Republican party. AGAIN. Do you remember when Obama said there were people like us who are angry, who cling to their guns and religion?
Well, Courtnay, there’s plenty that do angrily cling to their guns and religion. In-between trips to Walmart, anyway. :)
So I want to ask people this: If abortion were illegal, those who got it would have to go back to the old way of getting it done, which will kill more than a fetus. Would you like to see 9 year old girls have to deliver and die from carrying twins? That is a true story, except someone was able to save her from having to carry those twins. However, at first she was told she would have to carry those twin children inside of her NINE YEAR OLD BODY and was pretty much given a death sentence. If she had been able to somehow carry those children and give birth, she would have died from it. Then, we would have two small children in the world without parents, who would never know their parents. Why would that be? Because the mom was told that she couldn’t live out her own life, and to die at nine years old for two children she hadn’t wanted that young, who she would never know, and that these children weren’t from a man she loved who would take care of them while she was gone.
Now, is it fair to that nine year old to tell her she HAS to have those twins, because she was raped? Don’t say because god willed it, because if he did, that’s a rather heartless god. To kill a nine year old…hmm, that doesn’t sound like a loving god to me. Do you know what God gave humans? Free will. What is free will if women can’t decide what they want to do with their bodies, and what is created in their bodies?
If you were raped, would you want to keep that baby? Honestly? Yes, it’s part your baby, but it’s not the result of love, or even from making a mistake with a boyfriend. It’s from someone who has done something very sinful and morally wrong. Maybe some people could deal with that, but a lot of women don’t want children that way. Or maybe having a baby would kill them in the process, and they already have children, and could even possibly be a single mom. Would you want all their children to be motherless and in foster care or orphanages and could possibly be blaming their sibling for the death of their mother? Maybe a woman isn’t ready to have a child, like a teenage or college girl. Yes they made a mistake, but guess what, it’s still their body to decide if they ant that child or not. If they aren’t financially stable for a child, or barely financially stable for their own life in this economy, how can they take care of a child without feeling guilty for not being able to support this child and could possibly do something horrible because they can’t take the pressure?
Does that seem fair? To tell them, no matter how dire the circumstances, they are not allowed to make the decision if they are ready for a child, or if they can die for a child that was the result of a rape, or their mistake will stick over them for the rest of their life and that there are no second chances in life?
People wonder why the society has become so divided, so against each other, and why there is such a huge gap between people who interact in society. When someone tells you what you can and cannot do, you grow to loathe them, and that can last for generations. It can ruin countries. What happened with the revolution in the US over slaves? We were telling them that they could not decide for themselves. They were property and couldn’t be free. Only white people could own property. Only white MEN could own property. Women weren’t allowed to vote, or own property.
Telling women they can’t decide what to do with their bodies, or what is growing inside them, is a step back toward a country in which women can’t decide for themselves.
I know everyone has their own look on abortion. I know that some people won’t get an abortion because of their beliefs. However, it doesn’t seem right to take only their view into consideration. In a compromise, no one is happy. Because a compromise is about coming to an agreement for both sides. Which means neither side can be completely satisfied. So there is no way we can completely get rid of abortion, because then you are shoving others who have the pro-choice view out of the picture and not giving them any chance at a voice. Would you, pro-life, like that? If the pro-choice completely shoved you out of the picture to do whatever was their goal? No, I think not.
Please, stop trying to make abortion completely illegal. It’s insensitive to those with other views, and to the women who want to have a choice in what happens to their body. And in the end, it would truly cost more lives that what is being lost now. Because not only would an unborn child die, a mother could as well in the medieval ways in back alleys and unsanitary ways of getting an abortion if it were illegal.
You think you’re tired? I only skimmed through your comment and I’m exhausted!
You should have more faith in your fellow-travelers. They’ve perfected killing methods much better nowadays. Few mothers died while aborting and even fewer today.
But there is another view that you haven’t taken into consideration. Ask everyone you know if they wish their mother had aborted them. Then get back to us on how to “compromise” on that bit of information.
Would you, pro-life, like that?
I don’t know. Would you like being chopped up, sucked through a tube in puree form, then incinerated? Because that’s the “compromise” that gestating human beings are having to deal with right now.