Warning to pregnant pro-choicers: Stop treating fetuses like people
But if you really want to out-pregnant all the rest, the Daily has your trend: Pregnant woman are Photoshopping sonograms onto their naked stomach glamour-shots. (Picture Demi Moore’s famous and oft-repeated Vanity Fair cover pose. Now picture Demi’s smooth and tanned belly with a fetus on it.)…
But it got us thinking about how the more we treat fetuses like people – including them in our family photo shoots, tagging them on our Facebook walls, giving them their own Twitter accounts – the harder it will be to deny that they are people when the next, say, personhood amendment comes up, with legislators and activists arguing that “the unborn child” inside a pregnant woman’s womb should have the same rights as the living among us….
Still, casually and publicly assigning human attributes to not-yet-human embryos – including an avocado-sized embryo in the family portrait – does not seem like the best way to argue against measures that seek to treat that avocado like a member of our collective American family.
~ Slate article, “Photoshopping a Fetus Onto Your Pregnant Stomach Isn’t Just Tacky, It’s Bad for Women,” June 20
[HT: Kelsey at Secular Pro-Life; photo (click to enlarge) via The Daily]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
WOW! A brief moment of honesty from the pro-abort crowd! I hope someone screen-shotted it before NARAL demands its removal!
It is getting harder and harder to keep up the denial against so much science, truth, wisdom, education, common sense, and joy.
hahahahaha! Someone has to go back to school and repeat biology course :D LOL!
The “not-yet-human” embryos is the best! If human embryos aren’t human, what are they? Canine? Feline? Oh no, wait, they’re – avocado!!!!! LOL!
I would comment more, but my former avocados need breakfast.
**facepalm
Just another example of the torrent of illogic that comes from the pro-abortion crowd. They must have their perfectly-crafted illusions intact, or the whole thing does not make sense.
Maintain the re-definitions!!!!
Wow, a wonderful surprise to read the comments and see so much honesty on Slate! And a “not-yet-human” embryo?? What species does this person think a *human* male and female produce?
Vita, I said the same thing!! ha ha. And they always claim we’re the side who doesn’t understand science. Okay. Biology 101, species reproduce after their own kind.
I’m nursing my newest avocado right now. ;-)
I couldn’t do a better parody of pro-choice logic… wait, this is serious?
You mean..a HUMAN man and a HUMAN woman can reproduce something that isn’t HUMAN?? Who knew? ;)
I think “somebody” has been watching too much of the Sy-Fy channel(I HATE that they spell it that way now!). You need to turn off the t.v. and come join us in the REAL world.
Pamela,
Agreed about the name change to Syfy (Though I still enjoy my Saturday nights watching Piranaconda and Sharktopus. :) ). Science fiction afficianados have always preferred “s.f.” to “sci-fi”, anyway.
Listening to or reading what an abortion tolerator says about early human development is like listening to me describe the workings of my car’s engine. Clueless.
Repeating ad nauseam the size a human being is has no significance. “Avocado-sized!!! AVOCADO-SIZED!!!”
“Your Honor, I don’t see what the big deal is about me strangling that kitten to death in front of the Play Place at McDonald’s. It couldn’t have been any bigger than a cantaloupe.”
By the way, this article is from the same mental gymnast who declared Pro-Choicers should be perfectly okay with sex-selective abortion and just swallow their critical thinking skills/logic and move on. BRILLIANT!
Makes me want to beat my head against a wall. The logic (lack thereof) is just. Astounding.
Not mention, why is it ok for poor-choicers to tell pregnant women how to act, but no pro-lifers?
Fortunately, I am not sure she got one positive comment. She is doing more harm to the abortion movement than “good”, for which I will cheer.
I Am one of those sci-fi afficianados (have a photo of myself with Ray Bradbury to prove my street cred, haha!) and I prefer sci-fi because Forry Ackerman coined the term. Sadly, I never did get inside his Ackermansion. :>) ! I’m glad that pro-lifers are so diverse, go nerd power!
Human happiness and joy: mortal enemies of the pro-abortion movement.
I love science fiction too! My favorite author has always been Phillip K. Dick…I found out recently he was a staunch pro-lifer :)
Is Allison Benedikt a human yet?
How would we know?
with legislators and activists arguing that “the unborn child” inside a pregnant woman’s womb should have the same rights as the living among us….
Actually, the unborn are living, otherwise they wouldn’t be growing in the womb. And they are among us – you can’t get much closer to another human being than your mother!
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Still, casually and publicly assigning human attributes to not-yet-human embryos – including an avocado-sized embryo in the family portrait
Allison – they are most assuredly human embryos, because they have human attributes.
Perhaps before writing an article, you’ll want to do some basic research and avoid making non-sensical statements.
Wowza! I went to the actual article to read the comments – scathingly pro-life! The times they are a changing!
Uhh… human embryos are HUMAN.
The depth of delusion is just astonishing. What can you even say to these people who say things like “not-yet-human embryos?” They’re not living in reality.
By the way, this article is from the same mental gymnast who declared Pro-Choicers should be perfectly okay with sex-selective abortion and just swallow their critical thinking skills/logic and move on. BRILLIANT!
Haha! Oh, well, that explains it!
Pro-choice? Please check your brains at the door. They aren’t needed for the slogan-chanting.
@SM — I like Phillip K. Dick too, even though he was a little weird.
This article is absolutely ludicrous. If women have an absolute right to control their bodies, doesn’t this include photoshopping their “avocados” on their bellies?
ninek,
You’re right in my wheelhouse. Ray Bradbury, RIP. And I spent more time reading Famous Monsters of Filmland than my schoolbooks.
Back to commenting on other fantasists / monsters.
Phillymiss, you are right! I didn’t catch that. Their hypocrisy is amusing to me.
Maybe Jill’s ( and others’) work will become a lot easier if the keep tipping their hand like this! Tell us more Allison!
I saw your comments Coutrtnay. I also commented. That Seagulls person was driving me nuts.
Yes, pro-choicers, please kindly fall out of love with your fetuses so other moms can kill their fetuses more easily. In fact, it might be better if you didn’t love your born kids too much either. Oh, and let’s try not to send the message that being a mom is super awesome, cuz we don’t want to offend anyone who chose not to parent.
If they continue to align themselves with such joyless living and illogical thinking … well … that is just the natural consequence of their view, so they keep outing themselves … It’s a wonderful thing.
Wow… going to be a while before I can enjoy guacamole again! First fetuses (feti? that’s a kind of awkward plural, grammatically speaking…) were like “shrimp” and now avocadoes? What’s wrong with these people? Oh wait… we already know what’s wrong with them. nvm
I’ve got a good idea for reducing unplanned pregnancy and repeat abortions, since some women aren’t going to be responsible enough to use birth control consistently and correctly (a common issue nurse practioners & midwives see), non-the-less be responsible enough to provide proper care for the children they have (just look at the local welfare office or food bank where women with broods come in & with their obese or malnurished children they allow to run-around unsupervised & screaming). Someone ought to set up a woman’s clinic that provides low-cost surgical abortions to terminate these unwanted pregnancies & while women are receiving their surgical abortions, preform an endometrial ablation & insert the birth control coils into their fallopian tubes to close them up, so they can’t pregnant again. And they would need to offer discounts/financial incentives for low-income women with two or more past pregnancies, minorities (who have the largest poverty rates), the mentally retarded, the mentally I’ll, and drug users, who are all unfit to be (further) mothers.
“minorities”
If i didn’t know better i’d think the pro abortion movement was full of racists…
I think Just Sayin’ is almost ready for his or her nifty red armband.
Eugenics über alles!
Some mebers of the pro-choice community want to make our job very easy. Just sayin’.
Whenever I hear “terminate the pregnancy” I think of Daleks.
EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!
Some of the best babies have been born in the worst times and/or to the worst people.
I’m pro-common sense and pro-child. I work in social work & have seen what happens when children are born to drug-addicted women or women who already have already more children than they can care for. It’s the children who suffer from over-breeding, neglect, physical/emotional abuse, & substance abuse. It’s sometimes better if their conception were prevented or they weren’t born and more compassionate than bringing them into those horrible situations and the life-long physical and emotional scarring it causes.
Yes, it’s very “pro-child” to wish they didn’t exist.
Over-breeding? What are you, some kind of alien overlord?
Dear Just Sayin – You cannot eliminate suffering with more suffering.
We will suffer our way to prosperity! Freedom is slavery! Some animals are more equal than others! Oh, sorry, I thought we were still discussing science fiction. Too bad we can’t teach abortionists the simple laws of robotics.
1. Do not cause harm to a human nor allow through inaction to cause harm to a human.
2. Always obey humans except if it would conflict with rule 1.
3. Never allow harm to come to myself except where it would come into conflict with rule number 1 and 2.
Did I get it right? Or do I have to do another skill check -1?
“Too bad we can’t teach abortionists the simple laws of robotics”
Would this be easier or harder than teaching them basic biology?
JustSayin sez:
“I work in social work & have seen what happens when children are born to drug-addicted women.”
So, two solutions, and JustSayin picks kill the child instead of address the drug problem.
Is Allison Benedikt a human yet?
How would we know?
Well, Chris, she’s probably smaller than a coconut tree…. and so I’m not entirely sure, but you know, since we’re comparing people to plants/veggies and basing their worth on size… maybe that’s relevant. Maybe once one reaches a certain height/weight ratio one is human? We should ask her what her qualifications for humanity are. Hmm.
Oh, sorry, I thought we were still discussing science fiction
Haha ninek, me too! It strikes me odd that Just Sayin’ came on here and almost every single line sounds like it came straight out of some dystopian science fiction novel about eugenics. And those comments compounded with the Slate article above… I mean, we are in reality, right? I’m not trapped in some science fiction world were we have these alien overlord (thanks, Hans) or eugenic mad scientists “breeding” humans for aesthetic purposes, right? Riiight?
Babies in the womb are humans, unless I’m mistaken. Last I checked, scientists couldn’t insert an avocado into a womb and have it transform into a human being (unless it’s a new super-hero line – Avocado Man! Making guac for… the poor and needy, I guess?)
:) Sure do love it when these pro-aborts make our days easier. Mostly, their coldheartedness towards the helpless pre-born babies makes me cry. Today, they’ve made me laugh at their absurdity. Seriously, folks, this is better than fiction. Haha.
Oh look, another lazy social worker wishing death on the kids they claim to help. Why am I not surprised by this?
I think supporting legal abortion should rule out employment as a social worker right off the bat. Wishing kids were dead in utero instead of needing your help is not compassionate, it is not loving, it is not caring. It is cold, cruel, and demeaning.
Also, I couldn’t help myself. I had to jump in on the comments thread on the Slate article. It was a lulcow ripe for milkin’.
I agree, X. How is helping to children when they look at them and say, “Wow, you should have been killed years ago. Too bad you survived, kiddo.”
What’s wrong with saying, “Wow, what a horrible situation you were born into! I’m so sorry you weren’t born into a kinder family/better situation. Here, let me help make your life better by helping you out.” Am I mistaken, or isn’t that what social workers are supposed to do? Maybe I’m missing something, though.
The essence of cruelty. I wouldn’t let a person like that within ten feet of my kids (well, future kids… Don’t have any as of yet).
@TheLastDemocrat
“So, two solutions, and JustSayin picks kill the child instead of address the drug problem.”
But addressing the drug problem would take work….
ninek,
As I remember that story in Asimov’s “I, Robot” anthology, the robot ended up having to go around in a never-ending circle to comply with the “The Three Laws of Robotics”.
If only abortion tolerators would follow these rules, they’d stop going around in a circle of obliviousness and be at least as human as that robot!
X, I had to go back too. I gotta be me!
to xalisae and libertbelle
ok say a baby born from a drug-addicted mum was born and put up for adoption. would as an honourable christian person adopt the baby and provide it with a loving, stable home? please do so, there are thosands already in north american orphanages desperate for a home
how about it? put your pro-life money where you’re mouth is.
yes prochoice women do have children. just like pro-lifers can be pro-war.
loraiei,
I’m not Christian. I’m not religious at all. However, I’m also poor, and until adoption reforms are implemented, it’ll be awhile before I’ll be eligible to adopt. But when I am, I’d love to adopt a special needs child. I used to be a transition assistant in an early intervention autism classroom at a school for children with disabilities too extreme for public special education. It’d be wonderful to care for those children again, when I’m financially capable.
Secondly- you mean to say “Pro-choice women do have children, and sometimes they even allow some of those children to continue living until birth.”
For the sake of the argument loraiei, suppose your favourite pro-life advocate lives a secret double life as an abortionist. That would make her a hypocrite and a very dishonourable person, but it wouldn’t change the truth value of her claims about abortion or the logical soundness of her arguments. Or suppose someone decides to bomb a foster home, using the rationale that there are too many children in the system. Your inability or unwillingness to adopt out of foster care doesn’t change the moral impermissibility of the act. Likewise, the question of whether abortion should be legal in a just society is not dependent on the number of children pro-lifers have adopted.
Though for what it’s worth:
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1979/teresa-lecture.html