Abortion proponent Ashley Judd: “Making our own babies” is “selfish”
I figured it was selfish for us to pour our resources into making our “own” babies when those very resources and energy could not only help children already here, but through advocacy and service transform the world into a place where no child ever needs to be born into poverty and abuse again….
My belief has not changed. It is a big part of who I am….
The fact is that I have chosen not to have children because I believe the children who are already here are really mine, too. I do not need to go making “my own” babies when there are so many orphaned or abandoned children who need love, attention, time, and care….
Over the years I have quietly “adopted” many children in America and in different parts of the global South — a better term for the developing world — sending money for health care, food, schooling, and shelter in ways that are appropriate for the places where they live and which improve their chances for better lives.
~ Actress and vocal abortion proponent Ashley Judd, who is also considering a run for U.S. Senate in Kentucky, expressing in her 2011 memoir that she believes bearing one’s own children is “selfish,” as quoted by The Daily Caller, February 26
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Child sponsorship and adoption are noble things to do and help save lives. However, Ms. Judd needs to realize that pre-born children in the womb are already here too. They deserve our love just as much.
Giving money is great and can help with lots of things. But she has a lot of money…. so that alone isn’t such a big deal.
Being a real Mom to children means a lot more than money.
Having a relationship with your real Mom means a lot more than recieving necessities.
Philanthropy is fine and good. But it cannot
replace the role of a Mother.
If she really thinks having one’s own children is selfish, Ashley should spend not just money but lots of actual time with moms who give their weight in gold loving and taking care of their children.
I think what she’s really saying is that SHE is too selfish to have children. I have no doubt that she has Narcissistic Personality Disorder among other things. She is the most self-involved woman I’ve ever had the unfortunate experience of listening to. One could write a book about her… with such instances as her attack on Sarah Palin for the killings of wolves in Alaska, yet she is Pro-Abortion of humans. She is an embarrassment to all women, and I’ll leave it at that..<sigh>
Over the years I have quietly “adopted” many children in America and in different parts of the global South
When you quietly do noble things, you shouldn’t let everyone know about it in your memoir. Otherwise, what you have done is no longer noble but self-serving.
Sigh…yanno i just saw her on some news show ranting and squawking about something. I guess she and her husband were divorcing. I really don’t recall any hit movie of her. Her star has fallen fast. She’s aged terribly . Welp i guess it’s from all that bitterness she harbors in her heart. And yes I turned off liberal Judd a long time ago when id realized she was in favor of murdering the pre born. It was my understanding that her mother used to be a pro life labor and delivery nurse.
This picture is either old or air brushed…because the news footage i saw was of Ashley looking 70…,.anyway id heard that in fact she’s divorcing because of the fact that she wouldn’t have children. Oh well Ashley ..you will soon be joining your other lib pals who’ve also lost men as a result of refusing to have children. Jennifer Aniston and Demi Moore. Yes ladies keep up that fight to kill children and give yourselves breast cancer.
Oh good, an entire thread devoted to judging her life and her looks! It is like the gossip circle found at a local bridge game…
Pass…
Gee ex gop why didn’t you say something positive about her…um excuse me i recall u were quick to comment on John Boehners spray tan and now you’re critical of me? Lol ummm she’s an actress dear. I’m sure she can handle it!
Besides i happen to like John. He is from my state.
Ex why don’t you tell us something positive about her work? Oh yeah that would be embarrassing wouldn’t it.
There are so many orphaned children? Funny but I do not believe that this woman has adopted any. Not buying that one at all.
The sad part is that this self aborbed narcissist may actually get elected. The scales have tipped now and there is not enough good people to vote for good candidates.
Heather -
If you want to post my comments about Boehner, feel free – I don’t remember saying anything. If I didn’t though, I agree with you – he looks orange.
Regardless, the purpose of this quote is to get a bunch of petty thoughts together in a gossip like format judging her on her donations to kids. Does it serve a purpose? Okay, a lot of people think she should have kids. It has been noted. You specifically think she looks old and washed up. Again, your pettiness and attacking comments have been noted.
Who cares? 15 million things that could be talked about, and we’re talking about Ashley Judd’s current star power? Seriously?
Ex Gop well you did! I said Ashley looks old n she DOES!
Ex Gop the truth of the matter is that you don’t even agree with Ashley. Now that i am picking on one of yours you act so above it all. haha whatever …and Ashleys star has fallen if she’s ever even had one to begin with…get over it n move on.
That’s why i koved it when Obama played golf with JB!!!
Heather -
Yeah, don’t remember it.
Regardless, I wouldn’t spend full paragraphs dissecting people’s looks and movie careers. Pretty sad.
Heading to work – if you have a moment and could link to a picture of yourself (facebook or something), it would be appreciated. I mean, I’d like to stick to simply the content of your words or actions, but it seems like maybe attacks on people’s looks are the way you’d rather roll – so I feel like it would be more fair if I could paint a comprehensive picture – argue your points, but also how you look.
No?
I’m on Facebook under Heather Anderson in Cleveland Ohio so go look. I’ve had 4 Kids.I must be pretty selfish. Anyway you did say it and you know it!
I SAID THAT Judd looks old and she does….fact and you know what you said ex gop!!
Yeah ex gop i have to be somewhere at 9 so you go ahead and derail the thread with you’re bashing of me for bashing Judd. I stand by what I say.
Anyway my point was this …women who hate their bodies and bearing children end up lonely old ladies. Trust me I know a few. Judd Moore and Aniston fight for the rights for women to kill their unborn children. Demi lost Ashton because he wanted kids. Jennifer lost Brad because he wanted kids. Ashley is getting a divorce because she obviously doesn’t want kids.
15 Million things that could have been said about her? Okay name 10 cuz i believe that’s as far as it would go for me if that.
I am sorry Ashley.
Per your own groups argumentation UNTIL YOU ADOPT EVERY SINGLE CHILD IN THE WORLD you have to put a sock in it.
Best get to work.
When we’re in a pro-life debate with a pro-abortionist, they ask us what we’re doing about all the children already here that are in the orphanages and foster homes. Then they accuse us for not doing enough if we haven’t adopted any children. Funny, because adopting costs thousands of dollars and while our will might be there to do it, our pocketbook isn’t nearly as deep.
So, how’s this for a solution? Ashley… since you obviously have tons of money, why don’t YOU pay all the adoption costs for all those families on the waiting lists because they can’t finance the entire adoption process. You want to help those children? Well, those families want those children but can’t afford it. YOU pay for the adoption for them and they’ll be more than happy to take those children. So you can keep on keepin’ on with your “no child for me” policy but yet you obviously enjoy tossing your money at the kids.
I notice that Ashley is playing out an old theme, one that Chesterton and Dostoyevsky and others noticed long ago: The more that one loves humanity in general, the less one is able to love any person in particular.
Her utopian vision of a human society without poverty or suffering has robbed her of the ability to love a child. I suspect she has a great deal of self-loathing, as well.
Now that her marriage has evaporated, she’ll be free to do more of her “humanitarian” work — most likely, by running for US Senator from Tennessee. No doubt, she believes the world will be better off if she is running it for us.
She’ll never win in TN. We are a red state through and through.
She better move to Vermont.
Or, she could move to a third world country and start an orphanage…that could REALLY change lives.
I am glad she does not have children because she is way too self absorbed. Besides she is single again and sheds husbands easily like last year’s winter coat. She is supposedly not a dumb person but must have flunked science. So she writes out checks for some orphans someplace and applauds the destruction of life in the womb.
Surely KY will not be dumb enough to elect her!
And way to call all loving mothers “selfish” Ashley. That oughta jump start your career.
Go you.
I am sorry to hear her marriage is ending.
I have always thought Ashley Judd was one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood, for the record. I posted this quote because she is one of the most vocal celebrities out there who is pro-choice, not because I wanted anyone to critique her on her appearance.
I wondered when I read this quote if Ashley might also be referring to the whole fertility industry and how much money is spent on that in this country instead of adopting children who need homes. And if she IS addressing that, then I agree with her. However, I think she paints with too broad a brush to say that having our own children is selfish. Granted, there are plenty of selfish parents out there, and that’s not limited to whether you adopt or have kids naturally… but to claim that parenting one’s own biological children is only done for selfish reasons is not at all accurate.
Personally, I wish Ashley would make the connection that preborn children also already exist and deserve a chance at life, and they and their mothers need our help. We should never rationalize killing people, born or preborn, because they might be born into unfortunate circumstances or because they have difficult lives.
“The fact is that I have chosen not to have children because I believe the children who are already here are really mine, too.”
The fact is my children are not really remotely anything close to being yours children, Ash. If they had been your children, they would have been killed in the womb.
I would not let you dog sit for me.
Totally totally selfish of me to barf up my guts all day, every day for 5 months. Totally selfish of me to have stretch marks all over my body. Totally selfish of me to go through intense pain bringing my child into the world. Totally selfish of me to not have a decent night’s sleep for months and months.
Cleaning up spit-up, poo and vomit is SELFISH of me. Not spending money on my own wardrobe anymore but clothing two boys…selfish, selfish selfish. Thank you Ashley for convicting me so about my selfish heart.
Btw, just because you have biological children doesn’t mean you can’t adopt. My sister has 4 bio kids and is adopting right now! It is also VERY expensive Ashley. Most of us don’t have $30,000-$50,000 lying around. But you do. Why don’t you foster an adoptive couple so they can be unselfish and parent a needy child?
I think it is totally cool you didn’t want to be a mom. It is probably for the best you didn’t adopt a child in the traditional sense. Bitterness is a contagious disease and you seem to have a pretty bad case of it. Narcissism is just as bad.
Kel i agree Ashley was beautiful so is Demi Moore…..this was my point and i was in a hurry earlier . Physical beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder. However no amount of cosmetic surgery or vera wang dresses cover ugly. Ashley and Demi became very ugly to me very quickly after Id realized they both stood for murder of the pre born in the womb!!!! I was simply saying that Ashley Judd then isn’t Ashley Judd 15 years ago. A dark ugly heart is just that!
Oops meant Judd now..above post. My husband is being buried today at 2pm…I know he liked my continued fight for the pre born. Id heard the reason Judd n her hubby were divorcing was indeed because she didn’t want kids and he did. When your biological clock stops ticking best of luck. I am lonely without my husband and I had to tell my almost 3 year old son daddy is in heaven i almost did throw up. kept asking where is daddy. Ashley threw her husband away. Thank you to ALL on this blog for your prayers n well wishes! It means sooo much!
Hug everyone you love today. You never know if you will see them again. I think we’ve all taken things for granted. I know on Feb 28th I took for granted Id see my husband again. God had other plans. I’ve been able to keep my composure so far. If you’re fighting with someone pick up that phone today and apologize. Life is short.
Oh, Heather, I’m so sorry for the loss of your husband. :( May God comfort you and your family.
Thank you Kel. He was 54 years old but he loved that little boy. He loved children and he was pro life. His ex had an abortion without his knowledge years ago and he found a copy of something from preterm…an Ohio abortion clinic. It was the end of his relationship although hed had 2 daughters with this woman. I know he is now reunited with that child he had always believed was a boy. I know he is watching over me now and that’s how I am able to cope.
So what exactly qualifies her to be a Senator again?
So Ashley Judd thinks all the mothers in the “global south” are selfish.
Did everyone get that?
Not everyone should have babies. Some people aren’t likely to make good parents for any number of reasons.
The founder of March for Life, the late Nellie Gray, had no children.
I believe that Dr. Mildred Faye Jefferson, another woman prominent in the movement to criminalize abortion, is also childless.
Why on earth does everybody have to bring a child into the world in order for them to be a “good” person?!
Ashley Judd’s decision to not have kids is her own business. Nobody has a right to judge her for that.
Because, John, if a womb-an chooses (that is bad, remember) not to have children of her own, and instead adopts or sponsors other children who already exist, she is an “aged, bitter, self-involved liberal” who “hates her body” and whose star faded long ago, and has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and is unfit to serve in public office. Didn’t you read the comments above? Oh, and it’s a good thing that she didn’t have children, being that she is so selfish, ugly, old, self-involved, and narcissistic precisely because she…did not have children. (Wow, circular thinking much?)
Did you get all of that? And remember, John, if you ask “What about the former pre-born living in poverty,” you are playing an old Chesterton/Dostoyevsky “utopian” fantasy that robs one of the ability to love people in particular, because one instead loves “humanity in the abstract.” Interesting how commenters here have managed to turn the pre-born into the “real” and the born into the “abstract,” but that must just be my own “narcissism.”
So, did you get all of that? Including the fact that Ashley Judd was using “I” statements about her not wanting to bear her own children, but that this is conveniently twisted into “She called all mothers selfish!”absurd melodrama by commenters here. Yes, I am absolutely convinced that Ashley Judd wants the human race to go extinct!
Oh, and that first rule in the Commenting Do’s? Totally ignored.
” she is an “aged, bitter, self-involved liberal” who “hates her body” and whose star faded long ago, and has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and is unfit to serve in public office..”
Svet, Ms. Judd qualifies for those descriptions perfectly, NOT because she chose to have children, but because of her rabid support of murder in the womb. That’s really all it takes.
Sorry you can’t read inbetween the lines of her comment, especially as it is placed in context with other things she has said. Her condescending gaze upon the poor, simple mothers of the world and how she can save them with her intellect and money, blah, blah blah.
The fact that you insist on referring to an unborn baby as not real is YOUR absurd melodrama, especially as it is defied by science and scientists again and again and again.
Get a clue. We know when we’re being talked down to, and we also know when we are being assailed by someone like yourself who has 100% of the political posturing and 0% facts. Try again.
“Defied by science and scientists” – yep, you have that right! You mean defined? Sorry, do not assert that old “science has proven that life begins at conception” line. Get a clue, yourself. You are talking to someone who actually knows science.
@Denise Noe – don’t forget Mother Teresa.
Ashley Judd could never be as narcissistic as these “mothers”: http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1095904/do-you-wish-for-something-legitimately-bad-to-happen-to-you-so-you-have-an-excuse-to-be-upset
Talk about real mothers! ;) (Did you get that joke, Ms. Read-Between-the-Lines Courtnay? BTW, did you misspell your own name, or is that kre-8-tiv?)
You have noooooo idea what I know about (or maybe you do):
http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2007/05/-the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/228662/
Svetlana, Judd recently said the following: ““It’s unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries.”
I don’t see an “I” statement there, do you?
Regarding your link, can you please provide proof that the “collected anecdotes” aren’t works of fiction?
Even if they are accurate (which I doubt), all it proves is that sin makes people stupid, and people don’t often live up to moral ideals. (In related news, water is wet.) Since people who warn against lying, cheating, and stealing often lie, cheat, and steal, does that mean we should now consider lying, cheating, and stealing morally acceptable?
I just want to point out that adoption need not cost much, in fact it need not cost anything. Yes, I know private adoption is very expensive. But adopting through public family services agencies does not cost you anything, at least where I live. In fact, if you foster to adopt, they actually pay you as a foster parent until you adopt. And in the case of special needs kids, they may even provide certain payments after adoption. I guess there may be some circumstances where a public agency adoption is not possible for people, but I think in most cases they are. You just have to be willing to take on children who may not be exactly what you would initially choose if asked (i.e. older, minority, sibling groups, developmental issues, troubled backgrounds, etc).
Interesting how commenters here have managed to turn the pre-born into the “real”
If pre-born were not “real”, Svet, your side would have no one to abort.
@Heather – so sorry for the loss of your dear husband. Nothing will be the same…and know that despite that, people want to help – to pray for you and your family; to help with meals, transportation and anything you need. Please let people know when you need their help – and please rest in the Lord. We are praying here for you and your family. sending lots of hugs, Joy
Oh, and Svet, had I chose to abort my unplanned preborn human, I would have been a prochoicer i.e. proabort, not a prolifer. If I later came to my senses after aborting my child and saw the error of my ways and denounced legal abortion, I would then be a prolifer. Prolifers do not abort their children.
Not everyone should have babies. Some people aren’t likely to make good parents for any number of reasons.
Neither should those same individuals go around calling all biological parents selfish. Sheesh, did you miss the mega judgmental diatribe from Ashley Judd about how she is so much better than the mothers of the world because she has no kids? Like little miss self righteous, holier than thou?
I just want to point out that adoption need not cost much, in fact it need not cost anything. Yes, I know private adoption is very expensive. But adopting through public family services agencies does not cost you anything, at least where I live.
Where do you live? Have you personally done this?
Ashley, thank you, thank you, thank you for speaking sense! And for your courage to say what so many women (and men) think.
I’ve just completed close to 7 years nursing in India, Nepal, Turkey, Romania, Cambodia, Vietnam, Chile and Peru, and the amount of children already born who require our assistance is astounding. The most selfless people I met during my time in some of the poorest and desperate of developing nations were childfree like yourself. These people devoted years – at their own time and expense – in helping people in dire situations, and yet, many of them were called ‘selfish’ by the ‘never-left-my-own-state-let-alone-travel-overseas-stay-at-home brigade who do NOTHING but breed child after child after child. The many men and women I worked with who do not want kids of their own have given so much to those in need to those less fortunate. And yet….I still hear people call some of them ‘selfish’ because they work or volunteer with adults instead of children.
The most selfless thing anyone can do is either adopt or foster. To those of you who do that – thank you.
My eldest daughter remarked on our return home how she does not wish to have her own kids, but work with NGO and non-religious organisations overseas, like the ones we worked with the past 7 years. She’s been mocked and rudely spoken down to by those who ‘insist’ she’ll change her mind. I’m sure it’s because those women are insecure and dislike people taking the path less travelled, or not following the ‘life-script’.
Another thing I don’t understand of late is the ‘mommy is a martyr’ mentality of modern parents. Guess what. It’s not that hard (unless you are the parent of an ill or disabled child – I don’t mean ADHD or ADD or Adult Discipline Deficiency). Reproducing has been done for centuries, however, for some reason in the western world, we expect applause for doing what every species is capable of doing.
I wish some of the women downing Ashley would get out of their comfort zone and travel to some of the nations I mentioned, and live there for at least 6 months. It’s amazing how your perspective changes when you don’t have clean drinking water out of the tap, or you have to travel 700 miles to the nearest doctor, and there are no televisions, microwaves, washing machines, pre-packaged meals, etc.
Well done Ashley. Ignore those who are making comments about you not giving your husband a child. These women are jealous and petty. And very, very ignorant.
Doubt this will be published.
Joy.f.i. thanks for that. I am okay today. I put a note in my husband’s casket telling him to meet me at the gates when I get there. I will take your advice. Everyone has been more than helpful. I don’t remember who said something above about my/anyone saying Judd was a horrible person but standing for slaughter of the unborn is on my boycott her list. Ashley is not beyond redemption …not at all but for some reason she ( as well as plenty of women on her side) are supporting murder. Heck if you don’t want kids go get a tubal ligation. Isn’t that a private matter between she and her doctor ? She’s old enough so let her get to a doctor to fix her up! I feel it’s FINE not to want kids just don’t keep pimping abortion!
Carolyn, do you support legal abortion?
Doubt you will answer.
Carolyn I know plenty of pro lifers who have adopted children. I PERSONALLY do not have an issue with a woman who doesn’t want kids just as long as they take the proper measures to do so without killing their children. Look at how many rich elite Hollywood libs have abortions and why??? Please help me to understand.
Carolyn,I will give you 2 Hollywood women with multiple abortions. Cher..more than 3 Madonna 11 . Why?
She is not atypical- grew up; with the idea that population control was essential to the quality of life. The US maintained near zero growth a few times, and Europe has gone negative. While we did this, others who had not read the Population Bomb, continued to procreate. There is nothing wrong with our children, and many women do not feel fulfilled without having a baby of their own- a singular life experience, but it is not for everyone. Many women fear child birth. What is needed is birth control in those countries that have very high birth rates. One can also preach chastity.
@Carolyn …we would have more people around to do the things you’ve mentioned above had we not murdered 75 million children since Roe v Wade!!
Carolyn and Ashley and Svet, You can’t buy and sell love with your checkbook. If you want to ever even approach the love Mother Teresa had for humanity then you would sell everything you had and follow her example. Just sayin.
Heather, may God send his Holy angels down to watch over you and your family. May His Holy Spirit keep you and provide you with the strength to persevere. You will be in our prayers. And may your family remain united forever in the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
Svetlana, are you asserting that women are pregnant with dead babies until they pass your arbitrary benchmark for “life”?
Actual scientists disagree with you.
But giving away everything you had would be inconvenient wouldn’t it Carolyn? I mean, you wouldn’t be able to fly back home from your ‘charity tours’ to your air-conditioned condo or write checks to make yourself feel better than everyone else.
Bless you always TS:)
Judd is basically slapping the saying,
“Dont breed or buy while shelter pets die” onto human beings.
Does Judd consider her own mother selfish for having her?
Talk about a really embarassing generalization. Explain that bit of stupidity to your Mama!
Svetlana, scientists don’t know when life begins?? REALLY??? yes they do. I’ve even heard abortionists admit they’re killing human life. My college bio textbook plainly stated life begins at conception. You seem to be the only one who is confused. Life begins at conception. This isn’t pro-life propaganda.
Heather…I’m really sorry about the loss of your husband. I will be praying for you. Just lean on God and His grace will see you through. Don’t allow any bitterness to creep into your heart. My dad died suddenly in May 1984 and the one thing I remember (I was also 3, like your son) is that my mom never blamed God. She just leaned on the Lord and it was the greatest legacy she could have given my siblings and I.
Was it you who had an anniversary on March 15th? I could be thinking of another commenter.
But know you will be in my thoughts and prayers continually Heather.
Odd the last lib Ive heard about aborting was Lindsay Lohan..bless her heart the woman is troubled…but Id also heard that playboy pro abort Charlie Sheen gave Lohan $$$$.Too bad he didnt use some of his money for a vasectomy instead of sending all of his porno play toys down to the abortion clinic. Is there something in the water out in Hollywood??
It’s not just in the water Heather it is in the air and permeates the culture.
These quotes from Mother Teresa are all so awesome and right on for this thread.
“That special power of loving that belongs to a woman is seen most clearly when she becomes a mother. Motherhood is the gift of God to women. How grateful we must be to God for this wonderful gift that brings such joy to the whole world, women and men alike! Yet we can destroy this gift of motherhood, especially by the evil of abortion, but also by thinking that other things like jobs or positions are more important than loving, than giving oneself to others. No job, no plans, no possessions, no idea of “freedom” can take the place of love. So anything that destroys God’s gift of motherhood destroys His most precious gift to women– the ability to love as a woman.”
~ Mother Theresa’s Letter to the Fourth World Conference on Women, Beijing, 1995 ~
“We must not be surprised when we hear of murders, of killings, of wars, of hatred. If a mother can kill her own child, what is left but for us to kill each other.”
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~
“Once that living love is destroyed by contraception, abortion follows very easily.”
~ Bl. Mother Teresa ~
“It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.”
~ Blessed Mother Teresa ~
“Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women. Three quarters of its victims are women: Half the babies and all the mothers.”
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~
“America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation. The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. It has shown violence and discord at the heart of the most intimate human relationships. It has aggravated the derogation of the father’s role in an increasingly fatherless society. It has portrayed the greatest of gifts ~ a child ~ as a competitor, an intrusion, and an inconvenience. It has nominally accorded mothers unfettered dominion over the independent lives of their physically dependent sons and daughters. And in granting this unconscionable power, it has exposed many women to unjust and selfish demands from their husbands or other sexual partners. Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being’s entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be declared to be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or a sovereign.”
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta , “Notable and Quotable”, Wall Street Journal, 2/25/94 , p. A14 ~
Hi Syd…yes March 15Th would have been our anniversary. I havent felt angry with God. The funeral director is almost 80 and told me honey it was just his time. Mr. Carey ( funeral home owner ) lost his own wife and explained that his grief didnt hit him until 2 years later. He told me his work began to suffer. His paper work backed up. He became depressed. He said. Honey it was just his time.
Ts…i love those quotes from Mother Teresa! Always have! How true it is.
She was a very holy woman. She was never a biological mother but she understood motherhood as well as anyone.
Sydney. xalasie Ts. Joy Jill bless you all for caring!!
Sydney M, I also cannot seem to find these top-secret real science textbooks that pro-aborts read that state the life of an individual does NOT begin at conception. Instead my class just used one of the leading textbooks, Development Biology,by Scott Gilbert, who stated:
“Traditional ways of classifying catalog animals according to their adult structure…this is a very artificial method, because what we consider an individual is usually just a brief slice of its life cycle. When we consider a dog, for instance, we usually picture an adult. But the dog is a “dog” from the moment of fertilization of a dog egg by a dog sperm. It remains a dog even as a senescent dying hound. Therefore, the dog is actually the entire life cycle of the animal, from fertilization through death.”
But because some random pro-abort on the Internet with no ideological agenda whatsoever is assuring us that she actually knows science, I guess I’ll just disregard the above quote.
“This picture is either old or air brushed…because the news footage i saw was of Ashley looking 70”
The picture actually looked photo-shopped to me when I saw it. did you notice how much different the skin color is from about mid-neck down?
Ts yes i made the remark because when i saw Judd on the news i remembered wondering how old she was now and thought shed aged rapidly. Id bet if the topic was about aborting puppies Ashleys fangs would have been out. And after the way she trashed sarah palin i was over her.I wonder how her buddies and sister are taking her remarks about selfish people having kids. uh doesn’t wynona have 2? I dont think wynona or her mom march to the beat of Ashleys drum.
Heather, I am so sorry to hear about the sudden death of your husband. Prayers for you, your dear husband, and all who grieve his loss.
Mary Ann thank you and bless you
Hmmm, Dissenters ~ I don’t recall anyone saying she should have children, just that she shouldn’t be knocking people who do … or be advocating baby killing. I’m glad she will not be reproducing.
My favorite Judd moment was when after she was criticized for her puffy face, and she was going to call out the misogynistic society which judged women’s appearances BUT first she wanted to clarify why her face looked puffy and what her dress size is. “Don’t judge me for my appearance! Well, I mean, judge me fairly! I was just having a bad day! I’m still really pretty, honest … umm, not that that matters or anything!” Great material.
Heather, are you on facebook at all? And if so are you friends with Carla on facebook? (She is kinda the matchmaker of pro-life friends if you will).
Lifejoy…lol really?? Wow…look im 43 and i dont lie about my age. some people like me and some dont….im not going to look 23 at 43. Heck im all for a woman looking her best…men too but i am a fun and funny person. i have my good traits….but advocating murder in the womb isnt on my To DO list. As ive explained a dark heart makes or breaks a person. Why cant Ashley just accept the fact that her career and youth are pretty much gone? As ive stated above its just fine by me that judd doesn’t want to be a mom. With all of her wealth she should just get a tubal abstain or put a sock in it.
Sydney yes i am i put in a request for Jill so my correct info is up at the top. I use my maiden name but the name city n state are correct…put in one to carla too…request me n i will accept u
Heather, I can’t find you. Send a request to Carla Stream again (or Bethany) Sydney is not my “real” name. It’s my online moniker because I share such personal stuff on here. I’ve always liked the name Sydney but my husband said no way can we use this name if we have a daughter.
Anyhow, I’m rambling but I’d really love to connect with you on facebook. I’ve been thinking of you all evening. Praying for you.
“through advocacy and service transform the world into a place where no child ever needs to be born into poverty and abuse again….”
It’s the same old “every child a wanted child” which sounds nice, but actually means “every unwanted child a dead child.”
How nice that so many of the comments focused on important issues of the day like her appearance and state of her marriage. Apparently a woman can not expect to run for public office unless she looks perfect, has the required number of children to suit her husband and in all other ways behaves as the perfect submissive wife. Maybe her husband did leave her because she didn’t want to add more humans to our overcrowded plant. That makes him a lousy husband who was so in love with his imaginary children that he would dump his wife over this issue. There is nothing wrong with choosing not to have children. There is no population scare. Our world is overcrowded and there aren’t enough jobs as it is. Not everyone needs to have children. Those who recognize this and in spite of pressure from spouse, in-laws and society in general remain childless by choice should be praised. For the most part, having a child is something most people can do. It isn’t a miracle, special gift or rare talent. Just because somebody is a mother doesn’t mean they are a good person. Just because a person doesn’t have children doesn’t make them “bad.” People have children for all the wrong reasons and selfishly have kids because “they want them” How much more selfish can you get? Forcing a new life into the world because you “want one” is actually pretty darn selfish. The martyr moms need to take it down a few notches.
“there aren’t enough jobs as it is.”
Tenn – More people create both the demand and the supply for more jobs. Basic economics.
“Forcing a new life into the world because you “want one” is actually pretty darn selfish.”
The three kids I forced into this world bring joy to a whole lot more people than just me, and even they seem pretty happy to have joined us here. I could actually agree with you that when children are viewed as commodities, the parents are being selfish. But simply desiring children does not entail that view. What is a good reason to have children – government mandated population maintenance programs?
“Just because a person doesn’t have children doesn’t make them “bad.” “
Hey Tenn,It has been pointed out to you that Mother Teresa (who had no biological children of her own) is a model of virtue. Nobody except you and a few other trolls have even intimated that women who don’t have kids are “bad”. What we have stated that is that promoting the killing of unborn children is ‘bad’ and ‘shameful’ and ‘barbaric’ and ‘insane’ and ‘evil’ and an affront to humanity. See?
Tenn –
I agree with you that “forcing a new life into the word because you “want one”” IS pretty darn selfish. Fortunately, good parents don’t just wake up one day and decide to “force” themselves to get pregnant so they can “have” something akin to a pet or fashion accessory. But, if they do view their offspring as such, then I will jump on your self-righteous bandwagon with you. (I am sure you will go tell your mother how selfish she was to have you, right? Or is your existence the exception to your new rule?)
This blog is NOT critiquing Miss Judd for being childless, per se. We are pointing out the hypocrisy of her statement. Despite her “selfless” philanthropy, she maintains a lifestyle which would suggest she doesn’t actually miss a dime. Then she has the gall to tell people who would give their LIFE for their children, selfish? Have YOU personally known the 24/7 responsibility, emotional rollercoaster, and financial sacrifice required to raise children properly – not so you have a mini-me, but to bring more love and goodness into the world? For someone who frowns on judging others by their parenthood status, you come down pretty harsh on those who give more of themselves than the shallow Miss Judd ever will.
Tenn, take a chill pill.
Judd called women who do choose to bear children selfish. That includes her
mom, your mom, etc.
No need for her to pit women who are mothers against childless women, including childless women like her who are philanthropists.
If she considers herself prochoice and then turns around and slams other
women for making a different choice, that’s a hypocritical position. And she should be called on it.
What’s a martyr mom, anyway? Do enlighten us.
Having a kid does NOT make you selfLESS and choosing NOT to have kids certainly DOESN’T make you SELFISH. I’m certain Ashley Judd is doing a lot more for the starving children of the world than squawking about it on here and adding to the burden by popping out baby after resource draining baby. The comments on here are disgusting. Attack at will *shrugs*
I applaud Ms. Judd for not giving in to the stereotypical nonsense that every woman must have children. I too have decided not to have kids for my own reasons. It’s curious that you never see a male political hopeful blasted for his lack of progeny. Good luck, Ms. Judd. Were I a constituent, you would have my vote.
And as usual abortion supporters are overlooking everything weve said….that we are okay with NOT having kids as long as you dont make them and then murder them. Id support a fund for people who dont want kids to remain childless and wanted optional sterilizarion. Fine Judd should have refrained from telling women with children they were selfish BUT then isnt she also saying shes adopted? So she is a mom then. ????
I loved her in Where the Heart is.
Don’t care what she looks like.
The state of her marriage.
That she prefers to remain childless.
Yet she advocates child killing for others………hmmmmmm.
I take exception to what she said about mothers!!
Is it that hard to figure out?
PS
The rules are for COMMENTERS here at Jill’s. We do not attack each other.
Hollywood is fair game. :P
Good morning Carla:) lets reverse the tables and talk about men who dont want anymore kids. Charlie Sheen tried to prompt ex wife denise richards into an abortion and then he has beaten a few women including denise and brooke. I wonder if lover boy gets a kick out of impregnating women and sending them to the abortion clinic. The last porn star hed bedded had a few abortions from him and tried to kill herself. heidi fliess claimed to have had a few. enough is enough. Charlie ..get snipped!
Svet…womb an? Last time id checked i was much more than a womb. i have a heart to love eyes to see arms to hug. etc.
hippie – I live in Ohio. And yes, I have adopted personally, 4 times, all through ODJFS. And in all 4 cases, the agency bore all of the legal costs and such related to the adoption. Obviously, we have the normal costs of raising a kid like food, shelter, etc. But we did not have to cover any of the adoption expenses like attorneys, court costs, etc. And we fostered the kids prior to adoption, and were paid as foster parents during that time.
Sorry I did not answer earlier. I did not see your post until this morning.
Apparently a woman can not expect to run for public office unless she looks perfect, has the required number of children to suit her husband and in all other ways behaves as the perfect submissive wife.
That’s funny. I’ve had plenty of people here tell me they’d vote for me if I ran for public office, and if you knew me or stuck around here for any length of time AT ALL, you’d find I am FAAAAAAR from “the perfect submissive wife”.
I think it’s great none of these people are procreating. There might be hope for my country, yet. However, supporting the legality of killing real, actual children as they live and grow in utero is not a legitimate solution. Personally, I’m fine with gullible people who believe in a supposed “overpopulation crisis” that’s been causing hysterics in leftist circles since the 1800’s removing themselves from the gene pool.
Just can’t get my head around people who seem to have so much concern for children already born but none for pre-born children. Does. Not. Make. Sense.
I’ve just completed close to 7 years nursing in India, Nepal, Turkey, Romania, Cambodia, Vietnam, Chile and Peru, and the amount of children already born who require our assistance is astounding. The most selfless people I met during my time in some of the poorest and desperate of developing nations were childfree like yourself. These people devoted years – at their own time and expense – in helping people in dire situations, and yet, many of them were called ‘selfish’ by the ‘never-left-my-own-state-let-alone-travel-overseas-stay-at-home brigade who do NOTHING but breed child after child after child.
So people who have their own kids in decent circumstances and take care of them are bad.
But people who have many many children in terrible circumstances are just fine?
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What in the world?
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And these nuts tell us not to have and care for our own kids, but that we should have no kids so that we can care for other people’s kids.
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Wouldn’t it make more sense for people who can’t take care of their kids to be the ones to use some birth control?
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Just sayin.
I’ve just completed close to 7 years nursing in India, Nepal, Turkey, Romania, Cambodia, Vietnam, Chile and Peru, and the amount of children already born who require our assistance is astounding. The most selfless people I met during my time in some of the poorest and desperate of developing nations were childfree like yourself. These people devoted years – at their own time and expense – in helping people in dire situations, and yet, many of them were called ‘selfish’ by the ‘never-left-my-own-state-let-alone-travel-overseas-stay-at-home brigade who do NOTHING but breed child after child after child.
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So people who have their own kids in decent circumstances and take care of them are bad.
But people who have many many children in terrible circumstances are just fine?
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What in the world?
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And these nuts tell us not to have and care for our own kids, but that we should have no kids so that we can care for other people’s kids.
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Wouldn’t it make more sense for people who can’t take care of their kids to be the ones to use some birth control?
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Just sayin.
Apparently a woman can not expect to run for public office unless she looks perfect, has the required number of children to suit her husband and in all other ways behaves as the perfect submissive wife.
Just described the long-suffering Hilary Clinton!
Hm, if it’s selfish to have biological children because people elsewhere are poor, then it’s selfish to drive a nice car, drink Starbucks every day, go to plays or operas or whatever rich people do lol. I don’t disagree with the point that everyone should be more generous (though I don’t think it’s selfish to have a bio kid), but the only people I ever hear saying it are pretty hypocritical. When Judd moves into a one bedroom tiny little apartment and buys some 500 dollar clunker, I’ll listen to her opinions about what other people should do with their money.
Btw Heather I am really sorry about your husband, hope you are well.
Heather:
“This picture is either old or air brushed…because the news footage i saw was of Ashley looking 70…,.anyway id heard that in fact she’s divorcing because of the fact that she wouldn’t have children.”
I just looked at a large 2013 picture gallery of Ashley. Her figure is very youthful. Her face is pretty, very sweet. She doesn’t look botoxed to the max. Overall, she is very attractive. If you think she looks 70, post a picture showing that. I think you are distorting things based on your view of other issues, in a huge, unreal way.
Additionally, I’m sorry about your husband. But, consider that maybe your extreme, unrealistic bile about Ashley’s looks is a deflection from your grief about your husband.
At least, I hope so or otherwise you are totally disconnected from reality.
I just looked at a large 2013 picture gallery of Ashley. Her figure is very youthful. Her face is pretty, very sweet. She doesn’t look botoxed to the max. Overall, she is very attractive. If you think she looks 70, post a picture showing that.
Looks can be deceiving. No “sweet” person could fight that hard for the “right” to kill children in utero.
Not sure what planet you’re from, but on my planet, a blog called “Chicks On The Right” has a running gag about Ashley Judd’s puffy face. It’s amusing.
xalisae,
Looked at the blog – not my usual type of reading – I’m basically issue oriented. I found it tacky and uninformative.
Sure, looks can be deceiving, but I still maintain she doesn’t look 70 years old, haggard, etc.
Additionally, a puffy face and body appearing and disappearing is common with prescribed steroid – used in cancer treatment and other serious illnesses.
A little charity would be a lot more persuasive, but if charity is beyond the commenters, how about sticking to the issues?
P.S. I don’t think i’ve ever seen Ashley Judd in anything, the commentary just struck me as totally off topic and nasty.
I’m not seeing her getting elected by all those “birthers” in KY. Talk about alienating your constituents.
Although many people seem to be voting on looks these days instead of morals and competency.
Man if I didn’t believe in God I’d be building a bunker right now and stocking up!
I think Ashley Judd is cute, but I don’t vote on looks lol. And I don’t live in KY. /useless comment.
But I seriously disagree with people mocking the way other people look.
“Abortion kills twice. It kills the body of the baby and it kills the conscience of the mother. Abortion is profoundly anti-women. Three quarters of its victims are women: Half the babies and all the mothers.”
~ Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta ~
S ang…im sorry i cant post a photo of Judd from the news footage….i saw it and I was like wow haven’t seen her in a while. she’s looking old! Anyway weren’t you appalled and equally disgusted at her rant on Palin and how about when Sandra Bernhardt went on the racist rant saying shed hoped Palin would be raped by a bunch of black men?? Are you just as oh so disgusted ????!!!
Jack thank you. hippie lol on your comment about Hillary ! And to whoever made that nasty remark about my dead husband SHAME ON YOU…how dare you????!!!
I have no reason to be jealous of Ashley Judd! Pffft i hadn’t even thought about her since the news clip. My 83 year old mom looks better. Im not the jealous type…i guess perhaps if i was id be jealous of someone more like Heidi Klum! Beautiful with 4 beautiful kids and pro life.
Jack lol Judd in a 500$ clunker lol but will never happen …oh but the libs have their claws out tonight. I would never waste time being jealous of a woman with a broken moral compass. I suppose you then believe I’m jealous of her has been movie star status. Nope wrong again. I suppose next you will all accuse me of being jealous of Sandra Bernhardt??? Headspin!!
s ang ~ “Totally disconnected from reality” is letting that thought of yours actually be communicated to other humans. If you actually think that is true, isn’t that all the more reason to let it go? That’s what a decent person does.
Ashleys mom and sister Wynonna are beautiful ladies because they don’t go around pimping abortion. And if Ashley really cared about women shed take a good look at all of the post abortive women she’s hurt. I’ve had plenty of women cry to me about how sorry and haunted they are about their abortions. Ashley continue with your killing crusades if you wish but leave people who have kids alone and let us have our choices too!!
Looked at the blog – not my usual type of reading – I’m basically issue oriented. I found it tacky and uninformative.
You should’ve read a little more. It’s actually QUITE informative. The only reason they poke fun at Ashley is her horrible politics, which get the lion’s share of the coverage in the articles about her, BY FAR.
Nope gotta take that back about model Heidi Klum…i can’t even be jealous of her but i have great admiration for her. I love her style and she’s pro life! So is former model Kathy Ireland !
The rules are for COMMENTERS here at Jill’s. We do not attack each other.
Hollywood is fair game. :P
Aw, Carla, I think you’re a great, fair moderator here, but please don’t let this fall by the wayside! I agree that Hollywood is totally fair game for comment, but it shouldn’t be about looks. There’s a line where temporary things are done, like bad eyebrow pluckings or spray tans that will be forgotten soon. Bad plastic surgery is a tough one because it’s often permanent.
But please let’s not ever think it’s okay to criticize how God has made us!
I seriously consider myself to be physically ugly, based on our society’s standards, and I’ve had a lot of issues with this over the years. My husband builds me up all the time, and I suspect the truth is somewhere in-between, but we pro-lifers are the last people who should be shallow about this sort of thing.
Criticize away on Ashley’s offensive statements, but why pick on her looks?
Roxy you shouldnt allow yourself to let anyone make you feel ugly….as far as judd goes im not taking back what i say….i didnt think it was a big deal..shes in the public eye. She should be able to take it.
I mean do you find everyone famous attractive? Tell the truth male or female. I just say what i think. Charlie Sheen is also pro abortion and i do not find him attractive. Most of them are so self absorbed they could care less whats said.
Eh anyway….im moving up the thread now. Pro aborts are ugly people to me. I will leave it on that note. That includes Demi Moore
Wanting to keep Abortion safe and legal is not the same thing as “promoting abortion.” I would describe Ashley Judd as a Defender of Abortion, not a Proponent. And I read Ashley Judd’s words as describing her personal choice to not have biological children, but not as casting judgment on those that do.
Thanks, heather. I’m pretty much over it by now, but it gave me a lot of grief growing up. I suspect it had more to do with me having really bad self esteem than with anything else. Lots of people will pick on you if they can. One of the cases where I think we’re inferior to most of the other mammals on the planet. Though I guess predators will target the weakest gazelle for slaughter. Heh.
Agree with you that ugly views or personality make for ugly people, and I’ve never really been attracted to traditional good looks. If I admire them at all, it’s like admiring a particularly attractive or symmetrical face in a painting. (Used to work in a gallery before my daughter was born, and majored in art history.)
I still don’t think Hollywood is fair game, because criticizing someone’s looks usually says more about us than it does about the celebrities, but it’s not like I haven’t ever been guilty of it myself. It’s one of the not-so-nice parts of human nature.
Well-stated, Roxy.
“Wanting to keep Abortion safe and legal is not the same thing as “promoting abortion.” I would describe Ashley Judd as a Defender of Abortion, not a Proponent.”
Russ,
The antithesis of “wanting to keep abortion safe and legal” is wanting to outlaw it. That is being pro-life. Therefore, “wanting to keep abortion safe and legal” (with the emphasis on legal in both instances) is being “pro-choice”, which Ashley Judd is. That is being a proponent of legal, elective abortion. Sorry if you don’t like the facts, but that’s where they are.
Honestly. Where do these positions come from? Did someone just try ans say Ashley Judd is a pro-life Defender of Abortion?
“..you will soon be joining your other lib pals who’ve also lost men as a result of refusing to have children. Jennifer Aniston and Demi Moore.”
Umm… Heather. Demi Moore did have kids.
She’s talking about her not having kids with that husband that’s not Bruce Willis. The Punk’d dude.
Lol! Ashton Kutcher. My babydoll went to the same high school with him. He said he’s a total douche-canoe.
Hmm, I must be a low-information gossiper. I thought Kutcher (I think O’Reilly pronounced it “Cut-cher” ;) ) fooled around on Demi.
I do have to say that mother Naomi is way ahead in the looks department. Maybe it does have to do with her pro-life beliefs.
xalisae, I know watching people via interviews on electronic media might be deceiving, but Ashton’s always seriously pinged my douchecanoe radar.
Hans, I was under the impression, as well, that there was some wandering eye thing going on with AK in that marriage, although it’s really all down to trashy gossip column stuff that my judge-y self shouldn’t even be reading. At 50, though, Demi would be a little long in the tooth to be considering children.