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~ @Doulos2Christou, responding to Jill’s tweet calling out woman of color @smartstatistic, president of Mississippi NOW, for her glee about the death of her grandchild by abortion
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I think it has more to do with the mindset of borts. Free my daughter from a baby so she can finish school or whatever. Abortion to many means the problem is solved. And Ive also never minced my words about women who are happy about their abortions. You heartless human beings. Loads of sites support this. Exhale after abortion and I love abortion. Im not sorry. Hey after reading the comments about some of these women just praising abortionists and raving about how happy they were who am I to say a thing?
We may not convert the heartless pro-borts…. but the discuss may turn the hearts of many who are on the fence, not thinking much about abortion and the devastation it causes.
That massive, uncommitted middle ground is our target. The pro-borts do us a favor by letting us talk. Conversation shines light.
Del you are correct. I love conversion stories.
Also Del I understand that you dont like the sociopath comparison to abortion. You and I have spoken of Castro a few times as my son is Amandas cousin. When Castro appeared in court he told the judge “We were like a little happy family.” In his mind this was true. Never mind the endless beatings starvation being chained nude to a pole in the basement and the women were often raped at least 6 times a day resulting in multiple pregnancies. Jocyln was allowed to be born. Hes dead so he took his sick mind with him. Some women could very well think in a demented way before or after an abortion. And her belief that it was a good thing may remain.
Honestly I think his statement is pretty ignorant. Statistically poverty is a huge factor in abortion, as well as being unmarried or otherwise not in a committed relationship, both issues affect black people disproportionately. Lynching and other racism issues were deliberately focused on oppression of minorities, the high minority abortion rate is more complicated than that and I don’t think it’s helpful to paint it as the same type of thing.
They are cold-blooded and depraved. If my granddaughter was pregnant I would do everything in my power to convince her to keep him or her and help her raise the baby.
Deluded Lib: Why is it not helpful to connect racism with abortion?
The old racists would have loved to see Blacks hanging themselves and killing their own children.
Margaret Sanger located her contraception and abortion facilities in Black neighborhoods, happily working to reduce their numbers. And remember how Gosnell treated minority women as lower-class customers?
Planned Parenthood still exploits the poor, unashamed about reducing their numbers by killing their children…. for a fee.
Jake O ???????? has a simple point: Why are Black women agreeing to do to their own children what the old lynch mob terrorists used to do to Black men? They were poorer back then, but they didn’t kill themselves. Why do they do so now?
Yes we musent forget Sanger although women who want abortion on demand probably havent a clue as to who she is. They just want abortion at any stage for any reasons.
Margaret Sanger located her contraception and abortion facilities
Margaret Sanger neither supported abortion nor provided it in her facilities.
The old racists would have loved to see Blacks hanging themselves and killing their own children.
Do you think that lynchings were intended to reduce the black population? If so, why weren’t more women and children lynched?
Why are Black women agreeing to do to their own children what the old lynch mob terrorists used to do to Black men
Imagine that abortion has been outlawed. Do you think that a black woman who uses misoprostol to induce a first-term abortion should receive the same penalty as three white supremacists who chain a black man to a truck and drag him to death?
“Planned Parenthood still exploits the poor, unashamed about reducing their numbers by killing their children….”
Yes, the poor. Like I said, abortion is heavily tied to the poverty level, of which black people and other minorities are disproportionately affected by for a variety of reasons (structural racism like redlining and harsher prison sentences and other criminal justice issues, generational poverty, for Hispanics immigration issues, etc). So if we want to talk about racism and abortion, I see it much more helpful to point out how these issues are disproportionately affecting the black community today, and how we can improve this and lower the “demand” for abortion among minority communities, rather than this accusatory, inflammatory rhetoric about lynching. But it appears to me that a lot of pro-lifers don’t even think racism exists anymore besides at PP for some reason, so the conversation rarely happens.
“Margaret Sanger located her contraception and abortion facilities in Black neighborhoods, happily working to reduce their numbers. And remember how Gosnell treated minority women as lower-class customers?”
Sanger was a white woman of her time, so of course she was racist, and she made statements against abortion. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the woman, but it’s rather ridiculous to focus on that as if it has much to do with why the minority abortion rate today is so high. Do you ever watch/let your kids watch Disney movies (especially the old ones like Peter Pan which were ridiculously racist), or buy Hugo Boss, or buy anything from Bayer, IBM, or Kellog? Those companies have racist histories and were even involved in Nazi Germany for goodness sake. But that doesn’t mean that they are responsible for anti-semitism or racism today. History is important, but it’s time we look at the real issues facing the black community instead of the same old “genocide, Sanger” talking points. I just don’t think they are doing any good.
And PP didn’t even start providing abortion “services” until way after Sanger was dead, so I really don’t understand how you can claim that she was targeting minorities with abortion.
I don’t see her as a monolithic bad guy, I actually have sympathy for why she did some of the things she did. She watched her mother have tons of kids that she couldn’t afford because she had no access to birth control, watched her mother die at age 40 because of health issues not unrelated to having many children and miscarriages, and I do believe she genuinely wanted to help when she started trying to provide contraceptives. She didn’t provide abortions or argue for them. There are a lot of things that were bad at her (the racism a big one, it was about on par with MOST white people at the time), like I think her family problems as a kid made her biased against those who actually choose big families. And the eugenics views she held were horrendous, again that was common in her time before WWII. but I think at least at first she wanted to help. And I think it’s extremely weird that people can look at other figures from the same time and see that they had their good and bad points, but treat Sanger as if she was the devil incarnate. She was a person, did good and bad things.
I get that you’re Catholic, Del, and you see contraceptives and family planning as inherently evil, so we probably won’t agree on most of that. But it’s a fact that women being able to control how many children they had (without abortion, of course) does improve their lives economically, mentally, and physically. She did some good and a lot of bad. If Planned Parenthood had never gone the abortion providing route I wouldn’t have any problem with them, really.
Lisa C. Ik the case you are talking about. James Bird. Broke my heart to read about it.
Sorry that was James Byrd not Bird. And Dennis Rodman paid for his funeral and both DR and Don King paid $$ for his childrens education. One of the 3 killers has been executed.
“Why are Black women agreeing to do to their own children what the old lynch mob terrorists used to do to Black men?” – they’re not. They are exercising the same rights as any other woman, no matter the color of their skin.
Attempting to use the color of one particular group as a lever against abortion when it isn’t used against others smells a bit like racism to me.
Do you ever watch/let your kids watch Disney movies (especially the old ones like Peter Pan which were ridiculously racist)
You’re probably too young to have seen “Song of the South” in a theater. Youtube it sometime if you ever want to be appalled.
I’m 26 so Disney tried to hide THAT dirty little secret long before I was born, but I’ve seen it (you can find anything on the internet! Sorry Disney, you can’t hide your racist past). I can’t really watch it without feeling rather nauseous.
Zip-a-dee-do-da was a good song though, shame it was in such a disgraceful movie