Mom suffers PTSD but considers late-term abortionist “angel”
by Kelli
Smith was sent to a Boulder, Colorado, clinic run by Dr. Warren Hern [pictured], one of only four late-term abortion providers in the U.S.
Smith had only days to arrange for the procedure, which would cost $25,000 — money she had to borrow from family members. She says that she and her husband had to wade through protesters and cameras to get into the Colorado clinic, “which seemed like an army bunker,” and where, for security reasons, she could only have one book and one food item. But, Smith says, “contrary to what many might think, it was a peaceful procedure,” which, she explains, began with an injection that stopped her daughter’s heart, although not right away. Hours had passed since the injection, and Smith thought Alice had died. “But then I felt a kick,” Smith recounts through tears.
After she knew that Alice had passed — she says her belly was no longer tight and high, but rather heavy and sagging — Smith was overcome with a feeling of grace. Two days later, after being induced at the Boulder clinic, she gave birth to Alice, who was five pounds 13 ounces. “They cleaned her off and brought her into me,” says Smith, who shows me Alice’s tiny footprints and handprints.
Smith, who suffers post-traumatic stress disorder related to the loss, attends two support groups (an infant loss group and an abortion support group) and serves as a mentor to other women who have gone through late-term abortions for similar reasons. She says that she wishes there were more options for women in her circumstances, lamenting the death of [abortionist George] Tiller and lauding the courage of Hern, who she describes as “an absolute angel who saved me and my daughter.”
~ Ananda Rose, describing the late-term abortion of “Julie Smith,” whose daughter had fetal abnormalities, Pacific Standard, August 25
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Yes he is an angel. An Angel of Death.
Ah, yes, a peaceful death. Imagine being injected and taking hours to die. The liberals scream and cry and gnash their teeth when such a fate befalls a convicted killer yet when that fate befalls an innocent preborn baby they applaud the courage of such an act.
No grace was shown this baby. This mother never even gave her daughter a chance. The doctors tell you your baby *might* die at birth so lets hurry up and kill her weeks before that! Your daughter *might* have a “tortured existence”…how do you know? What if those ultrasounds were wrong and your daughter would have been fine? Are we saying it is okay to kill our children when they’re disabled?
Why do doctors always offer death as a solution in these cases? Why don’t they ever offer support and true medical care for disabled babies?
Saved her and her daughter? Her daughter is DEAD! She is damaged and sounds conflicted. Sorry but she is just sickening me after reading this.
“attends two support groups (an infant loss group and an abortion support group)”
Interesting. One of the groups she attends is an “infant loss” as opposed to a “fetus loss” group. That alone says more about this story than any comment I could ever make.
Sydney M. says:
Why do doctors always offer death as a solution in these cases?
$25,000.
This is truly chilling to read. He did not save her baby, he killed her baby for 25K. reading the part about thinking the baby was dead and then feeling the kick. I don’t think she will sleep well after that. No wonder she has to go to support groups….but how strange they are. One mourning the loss of a child and the other lauding her right to kill her baby. No wonder she has PTSD.
Yes in this state, the ACLU is up in arms over an execution that took too long for the man to die who was convicted of raping and burying a young woman alive. I am not in favor of capital punishment but why do they think it is okay for a baby to be killed in a manner not acceptable for a murderer to die. This world is nuts.
“This world is nuts.”
Certifiable.
The main difference between Warren Hern and Kermit Gosnell is about eight inches.
I wonder what she tells the infant loss group when she’s asked “How did your daughter die?”
I had an acquaintance “unfriend” me after she discovered my pro-life stance.
I thought this was odd until I found out she is heavily involved in an infant loss group thanks to her own decision to terminate a pregnancy with fetal anomalies.
I’m still trying to wrap my head around the idea that she valued that life SO much (so much that she chose to take her own child’s life in what she felt was a “merciful” act), but she can’t handle someone pro-life ALSO saying that the life of that child and other children are also valuable.
I guess we’re only allowed to say lives are valuable if we decide that the best choice is to kill them?? Confusing!
Why do these abortion “doctors” always look like creeps? This guy looks like walking death (no pun attended).
I suffer from PTSD now, after seeing this sorry story.
She said she experienced “grace”…. Really? If it really was “grace” she shouldn’t have PTSD… More than likely it was the comforting embrace of Satan… The mentality that these near term butchers are angels makes me want to puke…
I feel positively ill after reading that. Grace? Whose grace? Not God’s. People will say anything to validate their horrible choices. I’m saying a prayer for that poor little girl.
“lauding the courage of Hern…”
Sure, it takes a LOT of courage to murder little babies.
Heart-breaking, maddening, infuriating…
There are just so many adjectives to describe how I feel about this story.
Good question, John. I was wondering the same thing myself –
what DOES she tell people about how her baby died ?
I was in an on-line support group for women trying to conceive after miscarriage. We had a group of ladies that had formed our own little group after we became friends through the original group. One day, a woman just sort of “jumped in” to our private group…and was practically BRAGGING about how she and her fiancee’ had an “oopsie” (that’s exactly the word she used) and aborted as a result, now they were having trouble conceiving when they “wanted” to…..you don’t get more clueless/insensitive than that.
“courage to murder little babies” Hern, pick on someone your own size!
What a sad story all around.
phillymiss: I agree with you re: these ‘doctors’ looking like creeps. Tiller looked deranged, Carhart does, too. Hern definitely looks dimented.
Mike did you see hern when he sported a beard? Creepy. I wouldnt allow him to examine my toes. And our former abortionist Martin Ruddock looked like Hitler minus the mustache.
Wonder how she would feel if she was the one being injected to death. Game changer? You bet. Im sure many ppl might disagree but now shes suffering? Sounds like she deserves to. Sorry but some women who abort are cold blooded. The shoe fits here.
Well, Mike, you can’t always judge people by their looks. I once saw a movie about Nazi Germany which featured a high level female concentration official who was the picture of “Aryan” beauty — tall, blonde, blue eyes. She took a liking to a little Polish boy who despite being an “untermensch” looked Aryan. She dressed him up in little outfits, bought him treats, and carried him around like he was a little doll. Then when she was tired of him after a few weeks she sent him back to his mother, and they were later both gassed. After all, being Polish, he was still “defective.” The kid can’t of been more than five or six. This horrible story kind of reminded me of that movie — the woman in the article says she loved her baby, but not enough to let her live.
@Heather — You and I keep on saying the same thing, but it falls on deaf ears — many, many women who have abortions are cold-blooded and have no regrets at all.
@Pamela, how did the other women react when this woman talked about her “oopsie?”
Phillymiss Im okay with the fact that people disagree but allow me to address a few things to support my/our stance. First of all Ive known plenty of women who wanted an abortion despite having ample support for the child. SHE JUST DID NOT WANT TO BE BOTHERED! Second…why do so many women post op wake up in recovery and cry “Ive killed my baby!?” Because they knew that’s what they were going to do post abortion. At least THE MAJORITY DID. Third…If women are all victims of abortion then they need not repent. Would you need to repent if you were raped? Of course not. We are sinners in need of a savior. Most women can say what they like but the post abortive women Ive met knew about fetal development and they knew they were aborting a baby. And many do not feel bad. Now that said its my stance and I’m sticking to it!
Sorry above post should say pre abortion.
Also Phillymiss I was even willing to meet in the middle and say that some girls ARE victims of abortion. Just like this 11 year olds mom was letting a 23 year old man sleep with her and she became pregnant. No word yet on what she plans to do but her own mother prostituted her out. There was a girl who used to post here. She said she lived in California. She insisted she never wanted kids and petitioned the courts to allow her to have her tubes tied at a young age so she wouldn’t get pregnant. The state allowed her to have it done and she claimed to be 45 and happily childless. However she went on to say that she knew tons of women who were quite satisfied with the removal of their ” crotch goo.” and very satisfied with their abortion services adding NO FUSS NO MUSS. Why would I waste my time trying to be kind to someone like her? She even called my son a bast@@@! That did it.
I am stunned she wanted foot and hand prints after murdering her child and even naming her, it disgusts me beyond words, but to then attend an infant loss group, presumably full of people who have actually suffered the loss not murder of their child is vile in the extreme.
Why be stunned? If I’m reading the article right, they were looking forward to having this baby – they found out the baby had a horrible brain defect and would die shortly after birth, and thought it was more humane to have an abortion.
Now, it’s obviously debatable if that was the right choice – if it happened in our family, we wouldn’t have an abortion.
But sometimes I think the pro-lifers are picking the wrong battles. And this one seems like one of them.
but it falls on deaf ears — many, many women who have abortions are cold-blooded and have no regrets at all.
Cheer up. If abortion is ever outlawed, everyone oozing sympathy for those women now will be able to drop the pretense and demand that women who have abortions be sent to prison for as long as possible.
Well Lisa C. I hate to break it to you but many people are in support of that already.
You’re not breaking anything to me, Heather. Anyone who follows this website knows there are two kinds of pro-lifers: pro-lifers who acknowledge now that they want women to go to jail for having abortions, and pro-lifers who are waiting until abortion is outlawed before acknowledging that they want women to go to jail for having abortions.
“they found out the baby had a horrible brain defect”
Proaborts have horrible brain defects.