Jivin J’s Life Links 8-31-10
by JivinJ, host of the blog, JivinJehoshaphat
- Constantly troubled abortionist and abortion clinic owner Steven Chase Brigham is making the news again. This time for performing abortions in MD at one of the clinics he owns.One problem – he’s not licensed in the state of MD:
The MD State Board of Physicians ordered Steven Chase Brigham, 54, to stop practicing medicine without a license at American Women’s Services, which has locations in Elkton, Baltimore, Cheverly, College Park and Frederick.
According to the order, issued Wednesday, Brigham has been performing surgeries regularly in Elkton. He has performed 2 or 3 procedures twice a week for at least the past several months.
- Help around 130 people commit suicide, the majority of whom weren’t terminal (some weren’t even sick). Spend nearly a decade in jail for killing a man. Get a Hollywood biopic. Receive applause and be called “brilliant” at the Emmy awards.
Not sure if anyone saw it, but there used to be a show on TV called Lost. Two of the central characters that were at odds with one another through the entire series were the aptly charged Man of Faith (John Locke) and the Man of Science (Jack Shephard).
And it got me thinking about the divide between the Pro- and Anti-choice crowds, and how we essentially have this same dynamic affecting these movements. You have the antis, whose faith tends to guide their approach and their dialogue on this issue. And you have the pros, who tend more towards using scientific facts to guide their dialogue and mission.
What scientific facts guide abortion advocates?
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
“You have the antis, whose faith tends to guide their approach and their dialogue on this issue. And you have the pros, who tend more towards using scientific facts to guide their dialogue and mission.”
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You have got to be kidding,Rob ! Our faith guides our morals and our mission and our dialogues are backed by scientific facts. Unfortunately, the pro-aborts don’t want to acknowledge those objective and scientific facts unless they’re skewed towards what they’r belief is and are no longer objective.
I think the writer/blogger has got it backwards…
Did Rob by any chance catch the end of LOST? When, you know, Jack admits that John Lock was right about everything? Fine, whatever. Whatever you need to keep telling yourselves to convince you that it is morally permissible to kill unborn human beings.
Oh and Jill, when you were considering the LOL pro-choice quote of the week, I think you overlooked this gem from that same Abortion Gang article:
“They [the anti-choicers] cling to their godly assertion that the ends justify the means.”
It simply won’t t do any good to point out how patently false this is, so I won’t even bother.
I can not finish the WaPo article. Not when the first sentence makes the claim that this is “the world’s first attempt to carefully test the cells in people.” That’s not just wrong, it’s shockingly wrong. Someone needs to pummel the copy editor with a clue-by-four.
Someone needs to pummel the copy editor with a clue-by-four.
I may have to steal this line.
Hm… SecularProLife.org, Science for Unborn Human Life, the Endowment for Human Development, American Association of Pro-life Ob/Gyns, Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League, and of course the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice…. no no, move along, nothing to see here.
Kelsey,
Great reading material for Rob.
Rob,
I think you are confused about what “faith” really means. Faith means trust. Many pro-lifers are religious. Why is that? Trust in God?
It seems pretty obvious to me that pro-aborts have trouble trusting the people in their lives will come to their aid in difficult times, or they wouldn’t be aborting. Why can’t pro-choicers and pro-aborts have enough trust/faith in their family and friends to move forward in hope instead of towards abortion? Are they completely alone? Pro-aborts make fun of CPC’s but don’t bother to think about the positives of having a real person to talk to. I think your (NOT YOU personally, but the “collective” YOU/pro-aborts) tolerance for abortion mirrors your lack of hope/faith/trust in yourself and others. You can change that way of thinking and change your position on abortion. Science supports the pro-life position, it doesn’t oppose it. Check Kelsey’s posted links.
1) Since performing abortions on healthy women carrying healthy babies isn’t really medicine, could it be argued that Brigham isn’t actually practicing medicine without a license?
2) When I took a course in counseling teens many years ago, we were taught that a teen who wished to take his/her own life was a danger to himself and the situation needed to be acted on immediately. The teen could be kept in a hospital for observation since he was considered a danger to himself. Now, fast forward to 2010, where the culture of death is trying to convince the rest of us that suicide is just another choice one can make in life. What happened? Ok, I know I date myself when I say this, but we have woken up in Bizarro World haven’t we?
3) “Pro’s” tend to avoid all notion of science. Pro’s constantly try to tell us that a ‘fertilized egg’ travels to the uterus but a woman ’isn’t really pregnant’ until implantation is complete, and that it’s just a ‘clump of cells’ or ‘product of conception’ or ‘not a baby’ or ‘pregnancy tissue.’ You want to know what pregnancy tissue really is? It’s the kleenex you need for all the weepy hormonal changes you go through, haha! And the word “mission” usually refers to a religious activity, so isn’t it curious that a “pro” would describe “pro” activities as a “mission.” I pop my head up from behind a leafy plant, lift my round glasses, and say, “Hmm..very interesting…”
Ok, wasn’t it surreal to see Pacino at the podium during the Emmy’s broadcast and Jack Kevorkian standing in the audience getting wild applause? I can’t think of a more bizarre example where a murderer would get applause….. except maybe an abortionist at a Planned Parenthood event.
Did Rob by any chance catch the end of LOST? When, you know, Jack admits that John Lock was right about everything?
LOL!! Bobby, I had that same thought. Too funny. :D
Speaking of “cells” my son’s girlfriend lost her “blob.” She was devastated.
Welcome to the Philadelphia area, Bobby.
phillymiss,
I’m sorry for their loss. I’ve been thinking of, and praying for you. I hope all is well.
Thanks Janet. I just wonder what pro-choicers have to say to women who are mourning the loss of a pregnancy through miscarriage? “Sorry, it was just a blob anyway?”
Phillymiss, there was an article about a year ago entitled “Pro-choice? Then quit crying about your miscarriage.” The pro-aborts thought it was hateful. But that’s only because it spoke the truth. They had lots of excuses….like the loss of a “potential” life (yeah, right), and the fact that the baby’s death would not have been from “choice” (even worse). Only the pro-aborts can try to explain the difference between a dead baby and a dead baby.
Rob’s article is laughable. Do they even listen to themselves? Science? Pro-aborts? Nope. No science, no logic, just a bunch of excuses.
Phillymiss I am sorry to hear of your son’s girlfriend’s, your son’s and your loss as well. I have been praying for you guys too. I have family members who have suffered miscarriages and were devastated as well and I have held the hands of patients as they wept over their misscarriages. Take care and God bless all of you. It was a baby, not a “blob of tissue”
Phillymiss, I’m so sorry. May God give peace and comfort to you and your family.
I just wonder what pro-choicers have to say to women who are mourning the loss of a pregnancy through miscarriage? “Sorry, it was just a blob anyway?”
I think a lot of them subconsciously subscribe to what I call “The Velveteen Rabbit Syndrome” – you’re not “real” until someone loves you. So when you want to be pregnant and have a miscarriage, that’s a tragedy, but if you abort an unwanted baby it’s okay because the baby wasn’t “a real baby” anyway.
I’m so sorry too, Phillymiss.
Marauder, I think you’re right.
Thanks for your condolences.