by LauraLoo
Two Christian dads get a taste of what it’s like to go through labor pains, minus the delivery:
For all the males in the audience: if offered to you, is this something you would want to experience in order to have greater empathy for moms who go through the birthing process?
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Well Tyler, would you submit to such an experiment? LL
I think all pro-life males and women who have never given birth should undergo this for at least ten hours. If we’re going to say women need to carry and give birth no matter what, we should show that we would too.
I obviously would do it, why not? I do wonder what’s contracting, that doesn’t seem clear. If we don’t have a uterus what’s giving the contractions?
I don’t know but I think those were TENS units, Jack. Obviously there’s nothing really contracting. And 10 hours? Try 30, for my first labor! (:
My husband has been by my side for the labors of 5 living children and 2 deceased. It makes him sick to see me in that much pain (my labors are on the other end of the spectrum from the women who take a few deep breaths and pop out a baby). For the delivery of this baby (God willing it makes it that far) I’m having a c/s.
I think I would. Just for the challenge and the laughs.
” My husband has been by my side for the labors of 5 living children and 2 deceased. It makes him sick to see me in that much pain (my labors are on the other end of the spectrum from the women who take a few deep breaths and pop out a baby). For the delivery of this baby (God willing it makes it that far) I’m having a c/s.”
Wow that’s a lot of labor. My ex-wife’s first labor was easy (her words, not mine), she had him at home and it was all good. Her second was hell, and she ended up with an emergency c-section. I’m pretty sure I’m done having kids after that one.
The worst pain I have ever felt in my entire life?
My abortion.
And I have terminated 4 pregnancies (by giving birth) with no drugs.
Jack,
They are contracting the husband’s stomach muscles.
“They are contracting the husband’s stomach muscles.”
Hmm, I wonder if it really feels the same then, I think stomach muscles are different than uterine muscles, different muscle tissue.
Close enough.
I think they got the idea. :)
Jack,
You and Tyler seem game! Make a YouTube video of it! LOL (just kidding).
I denounce this stunt. It’s unnatural and ouside God’s ordained order for the engenderment of children. It’s also quite perverse, if no sinful, to deliberately inflict pain for reasons that are frivolous.
“ouside God’s ordained order for the engenderment of children.”
What does this mean?
Jack, obviously men don’t give birth (except if one is some deluded transexual, but that’s its own topic). It’s not natural and not in God’s order. Why this unnatural, make-believe stunt?
Well, cars and planes and clothing isn’t natural either, but whatever.
I believe they did this for curious men to see what their wives went through giving them children. Considering how many dudes I know who shrug it off, might be good for them to feel what it’s like. Greater understanding, etc etc.
Plus I think it would be great if I could tell the pro-choicers who pull the gender card on me. “You’re a man, you don’t know what it’s like to give birth, how can you say women can’t abort???” Me: “Uh, I totally know what it feels like, kinda!” Lol.
I’m just impressed that Janet Baker is capable of connecting to the internet and typing messages on comment boards unaided by technology through the power of nature alone.
Janet, I have to disagree. The whole thing might be “frivolous”, but the men were perfectly willing volunteers. There was informed consent. There are quite a lot of experiments done that involve pain and as long as someone is willing (and able to stop the experiment at any time) then why not? This wasn’t preparing them to actually give birth, it was just so they would have some idea of what their wives were going through.
The men had a taste of “fake” abdominal pregnancy contractions – nothing like what dilated women ready to push out a baby go through. (Think about those wide shoulders!)
It’s been said if men had to do all the birth-giving the planet would be far emptier than it is. I think there’s a lot of truth to that.
LL
It would be very helpful for boys and men to have a good idea of what they might put a girl or women through when they propose the type of sexual activity that can lead to pregnancy. There is a thing called a pregnancy simulator that ties on and simulates a big belly. I saw a Phil Donahue Show in which they put this contraption on a young man. A woman watching commented, “He doesn’t like that.” It also simulates part of pregnancy by pushing down on the body so that the wearer feels like he/she must urinate frequently.
I had a nice English teacher who proposed that boys should read a book about a pregnant teen girl who was placing a baby for adoption. The book was entitled “The House of Tomorrow.” That English teacher said, “Boys might want to read it so you can know what you might be putting a girl through.”
By contrast, I had a stupid Sunday School teacher who told a group of teen girls during a supposed “sex education” session, “My son would kill me if he knew I told you this but he said girls are lucky because you don’t have to fight it. So just feel sorry for them and don’t make things harder for them by showing yourselves off.”
Of course, her son had both the sensitivity and the intelligence of a toilet seat. It ran in the family.
I can’t play the video on my cell, but I imagine this is the standard TENS unit causing abdominal cramps, which, I don’t think feel anything like contractions. I think the notion that men can feel ‘what labor is like’ is as obsurd as saying ‘all women feel labor the same’. It’s easy for my husband to imagine what labor contractions feel like *for me*, because I’d say they feel like bad intestinal cramps, I’m 3 natural labors down and I’ve had gas pains just as intense as contractions. Now my periods cramps, those are more like someone practing vivisection. I had *back labor* with all 3 labors that was agonizing, but that’s just muscle spasms, men know what muscle spasms feel like, even if the average man (woman) might have to use some exageration to think of them from shoulder to tailbone. That would mean nothing to another woman whose been through labor. Like Mat. Anna above, who would rather have surgery than another vaginal birth, I’m sure ‘intense intestial cramps’ would not be in her top ten discriptors for labor pain. I’ve a friend who had an ‘orgasmic birth’, after her first birth was horrifically painful. For me pushing was pain relieving and very rewarding, others say it was the worst part and pushing was agony. Labor is hard work, but the pain level varies so much between women it’s rather foolish to give some shocks to a guy and say it mimics labor.
But I can appreciate the want to empathize.
TROOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL on the comment thread.
@CT ???
I bet Janet baker is a blast at parties
Yep, I wouldn’t call my labors “intense intestinal cramps”, lol. And I’ve had ischemic colitis (basically a heart attack in your colon) so I have something to compare to. I’ve also had kidney stones (the other thing typically compared to labor pain). My labors are worthy of medieval tortures. I forget my own name and the entire (1 ton) bed is shaking. People watching have literally gotten sick. And yes, the recovery from abdominal surgery sounds delightful compared to all of that.
Nonetheless, I think these men have at least an idea of what it’s like now.
Mat. Anna, and I wish you the simplest and least complications possible from said abdominal surgery! Good luck.