New Stanek WND column: “The Forced Abortion Act”
Promoters call it the Freedom of Choice Act, which is actually true. If passed, it would retroactively and forever free the abortion industry to infinity and beyond from every “federal, state and local statute, ordinance, regulation, administrative order, decision, policy [and] practice,” encumbering abortion in any way whatsoever.
Pro-aborts reintroduced FOCA immediately following the Supreme Court’s April 18 decision upholding the Partial Birth Abortion Ban with expressions of financial panic not seen since the stock market crashed in 1929…..
Pro-lifers have aborted FOCA several times since the 1980s, but terrified pro-abortion politicians and abortion-industry thugs fearing for their deathlihood seized on the Supreme partial-birth abortion decision to attempt a do-over.
Public relations aficionados that they are, Planned Parenthood and other industry leeches reassured us in press statements they intended not just to rescue partial-birth abortion for America but also every other equally “seismic” and “grim” Supreme Court anti-abortion decision that might be made ever after….
Under FOCA, no abortion procedure could be touched with a 10-foot legal crochet hook…. This would have to include Everything Delivered But The Big Toe Abortions, which Sen. Barbara Boxer infamously refused to say should be illegal during an enlightening exchange with then-Sen. Rick Santorum on the Senate floor in 1999….
Continue reading my column today, “The Forced Abortion Act,” on WorldNetDaily.com.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Wow,
Barbara Boxer should come to this site…
Unbelievable. How can she say that she doesn’t feel that she needs to define when a baby is actually considered born. The whole point is defining when a baby is “born”.
Her answer the “baby is born when the baby is born”
is nothing less than what you’d expect from a person who believes in something so wrong that there is no justification for it.
And this is one of our leaders?
How far have these Congressmen and Senators slid down that “slippery slope” of abortion toward infanticide? Is it right to kill a fully delivered child? Consider the exchange between Sen. Rick Santorum (R., Pa.) and Senator Russ Feingold (D., Wis.) during the Senate debate on whether to override Clinton’s veto of the ban on partial birth abortions.
Sen. Santorum: “If that baby were delivered breech style and everything was delivered except for the head, and for some reason that that baby’s head would slip out – that the baby was completely delivered – would it then still be up to the doctor and the mother to decide?”
Sen. Feingold: “The standard of saying it has to be a determination, by a doctor, of health of the mother, is a sufficient standard that would apply to that situation.”
Sen. Santorum: “That doesn’t answer the question. Let’s assume the head is accidentally delivered. Would you allow the doctor to kill the baby?”
Senator Feingold: “That is a question that should be answered by a doctor, and by the woman who received the advice from the doctor.”
These wonderful democrats, they’re always for human rights ya know… no wonder why their called the Party of Death
Horror aside, I couldn’t help but smile at the Spinal Tap nod. :)
Why is it that evil goes immediately straight for the juglar while we complacently accept a bone that, after 15 years,
pretends to take us only a micrometer down the field?
Jasper, I find that I agree more with the Democrats than the Republicans on most issues. While I dont identify myself as belonging to a particular party, and I dont vote along party lines, I think that stereotyping people due to something as vague as their party preference is a mistake.
SamanthaT,
I think you’re missing the point, democrats have been the ones always blocking legislation protecting the unborn, time and time again.
Their record is terrible, most democrats have a “0” rating from the National Right to Life.
Jasper, I am simply saying that calling Democrats as a whole “pro-death” is the same as saying that all pro-lifers are Catholic. The majority may seem to be; however, I doubt that you have any examples of anti-abortion law in which the democratic representatives voted one hundred per cent against the passing of the bill. Similarly, Im certain that republicans have voted against the bill along with their democratic peers. Politics are politics and politicians work in politics. The governor of Massatusetts (?) comes to mind; isnt he the man who won his position as governor not once, but twice, on a pro-choice platform, and now as a presidential candidate has changed to pro-life?
Ok Samatha: here’s just 1 example
95% of rebulicans voted for the Partial Birth Abortion ban
32% of democrats voted for the Partial Birth Abortion Ban
If it was soley up to the democrats, there WOULD BE NO BAN OF PBA TODAY!!!
On March 13, 2003, the Senate passed the NRLC-backed Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act (S. 3), sponsored by Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), 64-33, Vote No. 51. The bill was supported by 48 Republicans and 16 Democrats. It was opposed by 3 Republicans, 29 Democrats, and 1 independent. The bill was sent to the House of Representatives.
Samanthat –
“isnt he the man who won his position as governor not once, but twice, on a pro-choice platform, and now as a presidential candidate has changed to pro-life?”
I would think you would be more understanding of a conversion. I believe you are talking about Mit Romney. And according to what I have read, he became pro-life while in office before being a pres candidate. He agreed to hear the pro-life argument, and he converted. Sound familiar?
Lauren –
“I couldn’t help but smile at the Spinal Tap nod. :)”
Stonehedge!
Can you remember the name of the drummer?
They are the party of Death, there is no doubt. From their judicial appointments (Ginsberg, Breyer), to their Senators and Reps, to their donation givers at Planned Parenthood, NARAL, ACLU.
Haha Stonehedge!
NO, I don’t remember his name, only that he exploaded. We actually just watched this movie a few nights ago. We’re big Christopher Guest fans (of course, like everyone else he’s probably pro-choice…sigh*).
Lauren
I think several exploaded actually.
Did you see Waiting for Guffman or Best in Show? I love those movies!
You are probably right on the Pro-choice thing.
Something tells me that he could write a movie about this blog and the wild conversations we’ve had. It would be bound to offend all involved.
Of course, we would all be laughing to hard to be offended. ;-)
Haha yep, the drummers didn’t have the best of luck. I seem to recall someone choking on the vomit of an unknown vomitter. Eww…
Yes, I’ve seen all of them. My favorite was probably Waiting for Guffman. It amazes me how versitlie an actor Christopher Guest is!
Haha I bet he could definitely do one on this. Of course, he’d have to “interview” some of the real loonies. :)
I loved him in Princess Bride…
Princess Bride!!!
Favorite book, favorite movie!
I loved Best in Show. I go to dog shows and such, and I can name who is who from that movie! He was 100% on the stereotypes.
oh… what is this blog about again? Can we change it to a Christopher Guest thing.
How about “This is ABORTION BLOG” LOL!
Don’t forget the drummer died in a bizarre gardening accident…
I own Best in Show, although Waiting for Guffman is pretty friggin awesome. Recenlty my sister bought me a Mighty Wind, which is okay…Mitch and Mickey remind me of simon and garfunkel! Those two were practically lovers..
Oh and Best in Show..I watch dog shows on TV and that commentator thing IS right on. There seems to be one commentator that knows what he is talking about, and one who is just kind of random and awkward.
Cameron,
It’s so nice to see you. bye-bye…
Valerie, what I was getting at was that even tho he has changed his view on abortion, I dont think he has changed his party affiliation…?
Ooooh, Christopher Guest…he’s hysterical. I haven’t seen “Waiting for Guffman” (though I will try to watch it this summer once finals are over).
However, I do absolutely love the “Princess Bride”, it’s one of my favorite movies. :D
Rae,
I was just looking at your art again…
It’s really good…
Why is it called Kendra Noel? curious.
Isn’t there an entertainment blog you folks can discuss
movies on, rather than hijacking a blog about life
and death issues?
Les, I appologize for hijacking the thread. I was just tickled at the Spinal Tap reference. Trust me, I am probably the most ardant defender of life you’ll find.
As far as the FOCA goes, it’s an atrocious law that would undermine everything that the pro-life community has accomplished. I pray fervently that it never comes to pass.
What is a psychopath?
A psychopath has no concerns for the feelings of others and a complete disregard for any sense of social obligation. They seem egocentric and lack insight of any sense of responsibility or consequence. Their emotions are thought to be superficial and shallow, if they exist at all. They are considered callous, manipulative, and incapable of forming lasting relationships, let alone showing any kind of meaningful love. They typically never perform any action unless they determine it can be beneficial for themselves.
Since psychopaths cause harm through their actions, it is assumed that they are not emotionally attached to the people they harm; however, according to the PCL-R Checklist, psychopaths are also careless in the way they treat themselves. They frequently fail to alter their behavior in a way that would prevent them from enduring future discomfort. Dr. Joseph Newman contends that the behavior displayed by psychopaths is the result of “an inability to process contextual cues.” [22]
It is thought that any emotions which the primary psychopath exhibits are the fruits of watching and mimicking other people’s emotions. They show poor impulse control and a low tolerance for frustration and aggression. They have no empathy, remorse, anxiety or guilt in relation to their behavior. In short, they truly are devoid of conscience. However, they understand that society expects them to behave in a conscientious manner, and therefore they mimic this behavior when it suits their needs.
Most studies of psychopaths have taken place among prison populations. This remains a limitation on its applicability to a general population but that has not prevented fiction writers from popularizing psychopaths in the movies.
Cleckley defined psychopathy thus:[23]
* 1. Superficial charm and above average intelligence.
* 2. Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking.
* 3. Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestations.
* 4. Unreliability.
* 5. Untruthfulness and insincerity.
* 6. Lack of remorse or shame.
* 7. Antisocial behavior without apparent compunction.
* 8. Poor judgment and failure to learn from experience.
* 9. Pathological egocentricity and incapacity to love.
* 10. General poverty in major affective reactions.
* 11. Specific loss of insight.
* 12. Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations.
* 13. Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink, and sometimes without.
* 14. Suicide threats rarely carried out.
* 15. Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated.
* 16. Failure to follow any life plan.
It has been shown that punishment and behavior modification techniques do not improve the behavior of a psychopath. They have been regularly observed to respond to both by becoming more cunning and hiding their behavior better. It has been suggested that traditional therapeutic approaches actually make them, if not worse, then far more adept at manipulating others and concealing their behavior. They are generally considered to be not only incurable but also untreatable.
Psychopaths also have a markedly distorted sense of the potential consequences of their actions, not only for others, but also for themselves. They do not, for example, deeply recognize the risk of being caught, disbelieved or injured as a result of their behaviour.
[edit] Legal definitions
I just came across this and it reminded me of an argument that midnite brought up. She never got back to me…
But this so much seems to be the hardliners personality traits. scary, no?
Wow, I have to say….
…….dead on!
@MK: Ok, this will be the last off-topic comment on this thread but “Kendranoelle” is just a general penname I’ve always used…it’s an amalgamation of two names that my parents were considering for me before I was born and I really liked those names so I always combine them together for my penname.
I’m glad you like my art. I hope I have time to do some more art this summer, I haven’t drawn since Christmas break!
And I’m sorry you think I’m a psychopath. :(
Rae,
Why do you think I was talking to you?
I was responding to something midnite said awhile ago…
Well it was up there, and it seemed as though it were directed at pro-choicers/pro-deathers in general.
I’m sorry for misunderstanding. Because sadly, some of those traits do fit me, though some of those things fit those who are depressed in general. :(
NO, NO,
this isn’t about depression. This is about a lack of conscience. As long as you have one of those you don’t fit the bill…Midnite, however, I worry about. Don’t you?
Rae, I am sorry that you get depressed. I wish there was something I could do to help.
And you really need to start drawing again! :) That’s always very relaxing! :)
Bethany: Ach, it’s not your problem that you get depressed, it’s in my genes. ^_^
MK: I don’t worry about Midnite. I’m sure she has a conscience. Sometimes I feel like I have too much of a conscience at time…I often feel at fault for things that I have absolutely nothing to do with. I have major guilt issues >_
Why do you have so much guilt. What could you possibly have done? You’re so young, and talented and brite! No way. Stop with the guilt. I like you. That has to mean something!
mk
And I believe you. If you say midnite has a conscience, I’ll take your word for it.
I just feel guilt for all the things in the world. I feel bad that I grew up fairly well off and that I had loving parents who care about me when there are kids in the world with parents who hate them or abuse them or parents that can barely afford paying the rent on their homes much less buy nice clothes or gifts for their children.
I feel guilty that I was able to get a decent education and that my parents are able to help me get through school when there are kids who barely get through high school and are 20 years old and can’t read better than an 8-year old. I feel guilty that there are kids who can’t afford college even with financial aid and even if they are gifted they can’t go to school so they end up working at a dead-end job that they’ll never get out of.
I feel I don’t deserve all that I have and that it’s unfair that I got so lucky.
Rae,
I don’t personally know you or your situation, but I was trying to comment on the article, saw this, and thought I would comment on your thoughts instead.
I think it’s okay to have what you call “too much of a conscience”- in fact, it’s what makes some people very empathetic. If you feel guilty for things that other people do, my advice is to remind yourself that you, personally, cannot always control the actions of other people. If someone wants to act like an idiot or hurt someone, the best you can do is try to help (and that goes for people who are depressed too). I don’t want to say that you should just ‘let and let live’ (because no one really believes in that- people question things all the time!), but it is important to remember that you are only human. It’s okay to feel depressed- there’s nothing wrong with feeling like that every so often, just don’t let it take over your life.
Well, I don’t know if that helps or if it’s even remotely comforting, but I couldn’t just read what you said and not say something…so I’m done.
Rae,
Maybe it wasn’t luck. Maybe you were blessed. Maybe there is a meaning to your life that you just haven’t discovered yet. And part of it was to make sure you got a good education so that you could share the wealth and your beauty.
My son with bi-polar just lost his job today. So I’m really sensitive to depression and the overwhelming feelings that can come over you. My 26 year old son cried while I held him.
But you just can’t let the depression win. You’re better than that. You’re stronger than that. There is nothing, NOTHING, that you could ever do that is so terrible that it can’t be forgiven so that you can start fresh. Every day if you have to.
In my son’s AA program, the mantra is “Do the next right thing”
Not always do the right thing. Just do the “next” right thing. It gets you through.
Remember, we are always here for you. Always.
kay?
I have a great bumper sticker that says
“Feel guilty for no reason? You’re Catholic.”
I was raised properly, with a good dose of Catholic guilt ;)
@PiP: That’s what my dad always says. He says Catholicism is most excellent at laying on the guilt. My dad’s a Methodist but he’s been so whipped by my mom (as he’s pretty non-opinionated about religion) he goes to church with her every Sunday, since they got married 25 years ago and he’s never converted.
It’s also most excellent at relieving it!
Rae –
If you don’t mind me asking, what are career field are you going into?
I’m asking because you could change your “guilt” into something amazing. Socail work, psychology, therapy, nursing, advocacy… The choices are endless.
Having alot of empathy can be a good thing if directed in the right way.
How are the meds going for ya?
I have just gotten off of the Effexor and I keep sweating up a storm! It is worse than when I had the hot flashes after the kids were born. I even went off of it slowly! aaahhhh!!! However, they did up the dose of the Welbutrin so that could be it too! ;-)
I love chemicals…..
PIP – MK
Why didn’t I get this ‘Catholic Guilt’ thing everyone is always talking about?
confuses me…
;-) I’m gonna have to start counting how many times I day I say I am confused. It should be a high number! ;-)
@Valerie: I am actually planning on going into medicine to be a doctor. Now I don’t want to be a “specialist” per se because I’ve always found specialists to be “cold” and they don’t really try to get to know their patients that well, they see them and then send them on their way. I want to either be a general practitioner or a pediatrician but specialize(ish) in adolescents because I often feel that adolescents are given the raw deal with medical care because they are too old for a “kiddie doctor” but too young for an “adult doctor” you know?
Either that or I am planning to work in a hospital and do general care or intensive care work. I need a job with a lot of variety and patient interaction, I want to get to know my patients you know? I want to get to know them so I can help them feel better when they are feeling crummy.
I had originally considered going into psychology or oncology but I opted out of both because psychology is too imprecise for me and with my problems I probably wouldn’t be any good! lol. I also considered oncology but then I thought about it and realized that most of my patients would die within 5 years and those odds just depress me too much so I opted not to.
As for my meds, I haven’t gone off of them yet, I am still taking them. I am waiting for my finals to be over before I go in for a med-check to talk to my doctor about it. I also need to schedule my appointment with a new psychiatrist to discuss this as well. You get hot-flashes when you had withdrawal? I get these horrible dizzy feelings where you feel like you just got off a tilt-a-whirl only it’s there for reason and it’s constant! Blah!
Maybe you’re just such a “good” girl, you had nothing to feel guilty about…
Or maybe you’re the one without a conscience!LOL
Valerie–trust me. When I’m backed in a corner sometimes I just go, “but….I feel bad..”
Then people give me a look, and say “what in the world do you have to feel bad about?”
That’s when I say, “Oh, probably the Catholic guilt coming back to me!”
“Maybe you’re just such a “good” girl, you had nothing to feel guilty about…
Or maybe you’re the one without a conscience!LOL”
@MK: Who are you talking about?
Sorry Rae,
I was talking to Valerie. She was wondering why she never felt the Catholic guilt thing…
Rae –
Have you thought about going into Internal Medicine? I refuse to see a General practitioner anymore. I will only see Internal Medicine doctors because they seem to be more into the person and not the symptoms. Specializing in adolesence is a wonderful thing. You are right, i do think they get the raw deal.
So, you get dizzy spells huh? There are so many jokes there, but I’ll be nice.
;-)
I get dizzy a lot too… but it is allergies for me. And a sign that my asthma is about to act up.
MK –
PPPPHHHHHHHHBBBBBTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!
Lemmings!!!
@Valerie: Yes…that is what I meant…I was going to go into Internal Medicine (I wasn’t sure what the correct terminology was).
What kind of jokes about dizzy spells? I can take a joke. :-p
I just feel guilt for all the things in the world. I feel bad that I grew up fairly well off and that I had loving parents who care about me when there are kids in the world with parents who hate them or abuse them or parents that can barely afford paying the rent on their homes much less buy nice clothes or gifts for their children.
I feel guilty that I was able to get a decent education and that my parents are able to help me get through school when there are kids who barely get through high school and are 20 years old and can’t read better than an 8-year old. I feel guilty that there are kids who can’t afford college even with financial aid and even if they are gifted they can’t go to school so they end up working at a dead-end job that they’ll never get out of.
I feel I don’t deserve all that I have and that it’s unfair that I got so lucky.
Aww Rae, none of those things are your fault. I’m sure you know that logically, but emotionally it’s difficult to believe. But if these situations are bothering you, this may well be your calling in life.
Maybe you are the one who will start an organization to help the people you mentioned who have these particular needs. Maybe you will be the one to make a difference in hundreds or thousands of people’s lives one day. You never know. Listen to your conscience. Even though it’s not your fault that these people out there are suffering, your burden for them is undeniable. Maybe there is a reason that you feel that way, and maybe you can put your burden to use by beginning something wonderful to help these kinds of people out.
((((hugs))))
Valerie,
both dizziness and memory-loss are physical. Would ask you to go to an MD, but usually they haven’t a clue about nutrition. An ND may help more. I will paste a blog below … suspect that many, many young women are being severely influenced too.
“This is scary stuff folks. Having 5 eye surgeries is scary enough.
Was all the diet sodas I drank all these years a contributing factor?
I use Stevia, a natural herb-sweetner and herbal tea. Water, juice,
coffee (limited) but no longer suck down Diet…anything.
After reading all I have researched on this, and having no other
explanation other than “you’re nearsighted” it’s enough for me
to find other things to drink/eat than this addictive:
NO ONE TOLD ME that drinking diet sodas constantly could possibly be harmful. After all, they are sold in stores right? So are matches
Valerie, I am on Effexor and I think I sweat irregularly! It could just be the Georgia humidity, tho…
Sorry, first attempt at using the italics thing.
Samantha T.,Do you live in Georgia? I pass through there on my way to Fla. It’s beautiful!
@John: Well I’m glad I don’t drink that much pop (actually, I almost never do).
Samantha –
One of the side effects of effexor is hot flashes. You might want to check that out. From what I’ve heard, it usually is worse if there is more than one controlling drug. Like taking Lexapro with effexor will make it worse. But that is only what I have heard.
John –
My sister’s father-n-law is a food chemist and he says he wouldn’t touch the stuff. He said you might as well shoot rat poison into your veins. I’ve stayed away from it ever since.
Heather, I live in the northern part where the mountains are, but I love the Okefenokee! It is close to the Florida line, and it is such a beautiful place to visit. I love the beach too, but it is six hours away…
I drink two cans of diet coke a day. I’m super addicted. If I didn’t drink diet coke, where would I get my caffiene fix without blowing up like a balloon?
Jill, you wrote: “I’m having trouble comprehending how a population of 200 million in 1970 could render 1.2 million illegal abortions when a population of 300 million in 2006 rendered 1.3 million legal abortions. ”
In 1970 the baby boom was younger, more sexually active, and more fertile.
Samantha T. I believe I have passed through there. I-75 if I’m not mistaken.
SoMg,why were they more fertile in 1970?
Heather, because they were younger. Younger females are more fertile.
This, by the way, is why abortion rates keep dropping in the USA. It has nothing to do with new right-to-life laws; it’s because the females of the baby-boom generation are reaching menopause, and have already reached the lower-fertility years that occur before menopause.
PiP,
apparently aspartame is itself one of the most addictive chemicals known. It also makes people crave carbohydrates. Insulin covert carbohydrates to fat. So eating/drinking aspartame increases weight gain. The people who went off aspartame lost an average, 19 pounds.
I just can’t get around the idea that vision loss is permanent. I guess because the damage done is to the optic nerve and nerve cells (except the nerves for smell – olfactory bulb) do not regenerate ……….
John, I heard that on the news about a month ago!
Sorry, was out of pocket yesterday and am just getting to comments.
Lauren, 5/2, 9:53a, said: “Horror aside, I couldn’t help but smile at the Spinal Tap nod. :)”
Thanks, I see you read to the end! My favorite line was the “Everything Delivered but the Big Toe Abortions,” which is sick, actually, because the other side would support it.
SOMG, 5/3, 2:01p, said: “In 1970 the baby boom was younger, more sexually active, and more fertile.”
SOMG, let’s see some official numbers, please.
So, basically, it keeps the options for abortion open. It’s not FORCED abortion, you idiot.
Jill, you can look up the official numbers on the aging of the baby-boom yourself. I’m not doing any more of your work for you.
Haha
Good column. Curious how the pro-aborts worry about all the hazards of the back alley but they seem to miss stories like the fetus eater and that poor lady in Fla. Both those made me wretch.
Anyway, congratulations on making the banner on WND!
SOMG, you forget it was your advance to prop up, not mine. Unable to perform, are you? Poor boy.
What, you don’t believe the baby boom generation is older, less sexually active, and less fertile than it was in 1970?
Didn’t Jill used to work as a nurse? How can you be a nurse and not know about the aging of the baby boom?
Oh, SMOGGY, word twisting is for simpletons. Come on, what’s the matter with you tonight? You’re slipping.
SoMg is slipping. It all began when he couldn’t find the proof that childbirth caused more damage to the cervix than abortion. It seems to be down hill ever since.
He could always lie like the rest of them…
Or maybe there just isn’t such a big audience today…
Outnumbered SOMG?
No one to cheer you on?
Ohhh poor boy…
Mark K. You are so right. I haven’t heard one ounce of outrage over the woman in New Jersey. This woman will have a colostomy bag for the rest of her life. She had to have her uterus removed, and God knows what other medical expenses. All because of these “competent abortionists” Christen Gilbert didn’t receive one second of recognition from the Choice crowd.She died at the hands of Tiller and Carhart.
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