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On this Thanksgiving Day, what are you thankful for?
Nov.22, 2007 5:48 am |
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On this Thanksgiving Day, what are you thankful for?
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Note from Jill: I’m taking the liberty of copying this comment Doug wrote at 12:58a this morning on the Cecile post, because it’s appropro here, and very sweet, actually….
What am I thankful for? Honestly – “everything.”
I think I own my failures (and they are many) but I’ll be 49 in March and there is peace. I have a great family, probably better than I deserve, and a truly great wife, and her family is also better than I deserve.
I was gonna make a smart-ass reply about Tanqueray, Absolut, Captain Morgan, etc., but the real truth is that I’m also thankful for the people right here – Jill – who provides a lot of fascinating topics not to mention a ton of bandwidth for big mouths like me.
I’ve argued abortion for over eleven years, and the people here are by far the best pro-life debaters. No other place is even close, IMO.
I tend to take pro-choicers for granted, but I’ve known “non-AB” Laura for a long time, and again I’ve gotta give a shout-out to her. Erin, Leah, Sally, Midnite, Rae, Hal, Ray, Carol, etc. – can’t remember all (and I’m sorry for that) – there you go.
There are lots of cool pro-lifers here, IMO even among the ones who really hate some of the things I say.
So – you – AB Laura, MK, Bethany, Hippie, newcomer Elizabeth, Carder (heh – surprise, eh?), Jacqueline, John McDonnell, PIP (PrettyInPink), Heather, Kristen, Carrie, Mary, and there are more but again I’m sorry – just can’t remember. I’ve had a few glasses of wine tonight and I’m thankful for the vinters who give us fine chardonnays, pinot noirs, chiantis, etc. okay just kidding – you’re all unique people and to some extent I’ve gotten to know you and thus like you.
Doug
Posted by: Doug at November 22, 2007 12:58 AM
Jill,
The videos aren’t playing…
ahhhh…there you go…they’re going now
Doug,
Admit it, you don’t just like us, YOU LOVE US!
(You put Rae in the wrong group…)
Everyone,
I am so grateful that my life is so different now than it was 16 thanksgivings ago. I was such a mess. 17 years ago I would have been trying to figure out how to ditch my family after dinner and get to a bar. I would have been high on my after dinner doobie, and I would have been seriously hung over tomorrow…At least I think so, but I can’t remember much of that part of my life, so I don’t really know.
Now I’m bloggin on here, with my grandson in my arms, gettin’ ready to go to mass and actually looking forward to spending the day with my family.
I am grateful for my birth mother, who courageously and unselfishly relinquished me at birth and to the two wonderful people who took me in and viewed me as the most precious of gifts instead of as “a problem”.
I’m grateful for my family…from my father to baby Joey…both of whom are bald, and helpless and at the complete mercy of others, even tho they are 80 years apart in age.
I’m grateful, like Doug, for all my new friends and the opportunity to share my faith and values with all of you.
I am grateful for the gift of wisdom, so that I can know right from wrong and up from down.
I am grateful for the gift of hope. Without it, I’m afraid the world would be too much for me.
But mostly, I am grateful for the gift of His mercy. At some point, someone must have said the prayer that finally put Him over, and here I am today. So to all the people here today and generations back that have prayed for me, Thank You. It finally worked. How wonderful that my stupidity was no match for His love…
As our friend Logan so beautifully put it…”Run to Him. He ALWAYS understands.”
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU ALL AND GOD BLESS EACH OF YOU…
I am thankful for my family and for our continued good health. I am thankful that my son is finally in a good school that understands him and knows how to help him. I am thankful that God gave me the strength to stand-up to a certain family member when I was a teenager and in the process prevented other children from being abused(sorry,I know that was a bit heavy). As I said in the other post, I am thankful for the orange spice pumpkin pie that I baked last night. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!
I am thankful that I am able bodied. I am glad to have the basic necessities in life. I’m thankful for good people in this world. I think of the homeless, the lonely, the elderly, and the less fortunate today. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
I’m thankful for the two pumpkin, two apple, two chocolate cream, and one vanilla cream pie that my mom made….
And I love all of you. :D
Happy Turkey Day, loves! :D
OMG, a vanilla creaqm pie? That sounds so good!!
There is an overwhelming number of things I have to thank God for.
Today I’d like to give special thanks for my blog moderators: Bethany, Jacque, Jasper, Lauren, MK, and Valerie. With Lauren and Valerie on temporary hiatus, the other 4 are picking up lots of slack. Plus Jasper supplies the quote of the day.
Because of the increased traffic, for which I am also most grateful, we’ve had to divide the workload of the blog into 2 parts now. There is the posting part, which I take care of, and there is the commenting part, which the moderators oversee.
I literally could not do it all, and moderators overseeing commenting has helped increase traffic as well. So the site grows because of them, too.
I even get help from the moderators with posting. Jacque recently tried her excellent hand at it, and Bethany, MK, and Valerie have taken charge there when I’ve been on vacation.
I don’t get to chat with my moderator friends as much as I used to because of division of labor, and I miss that. But I appreciate them more than ever.
I am thankful for so much. Everything I have I owe to God. But most of all, I am thankful that He chose me, before I was ever born, to spend eternity in Heaven with Him. That always blows my mind! He created me to spend eternity with Him..WOW!
Lately, though, I’ve been thankful for all of the hard work that pro-lifer’s do to have a voice for the unborn. What a calling!
Happy Thanksgiving to all of you, and Jill, thank you so much for all of your hard work and wonderful wit…All of the moderators: thank you! you guys do such a nice job!
Enjoy Thanksgiving!!!
Jill, happy Thanksgiving:]
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
Also, I’m thankful that I made three pies yesterday- and for the first time EVER, and I’ve been making pies for a while, my cherry filling did not leak out between the crusts!
And of course, all the other stuff. My wonderful family, my friends, my pets(I have a kitty on my lap ^_^) And like Doug, for wine, which I’m about to go shopping for with my Daddy.
And mullets! We can’t forget mullets!
It’s been a tough year for Notre Dame fans.
My niece, Isabella.
Right on, Erin. We’re taking some pretty good stuff to my wife’s parents’ place – a nice chardonnay, a sauvignon blanc, a couple really good Italian wines – Brunello di Montalcino and a Valpolicella, and an Australian Shiraz.
Cheers!
Doug
Birth control. Thank god for that.
I’m thankful I’m not an ignorant, mouth-breather like Jill and all of the other ignorant mouth-breathers who have posted above. It must suck to go through life afraid of your own shadow and so insanely concerned with what your neighbor is doing behind their door. I feel sad for each and every one of you freaks. You’re pathetic.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Sincerely,
Jeebus
Doug,
Isabella is beautiful! Her bear is pretty cute, too!!!
Doug,
Your niece is cute. Don’t worry about ND, they have alot of young players, they’ll be back next year. Especially after Charlie Weiss seeks advice from the New England Patriots coachs :) …..
Jeebus—get a life.
Doug, she’s really cute!!!
I would like to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving, even if I’ve at least temporarily banished myself from the comments due to my far from perfect ability to control my temper. Don’t worry, though, I’m working on it.
So, Happy Thanksgiving! Personally I’m thankful for Jesus Christ, Natural Family Planning, and for the fact that I’m both a Christian and someone who has mastered nasal breathing ;)
I’m thankful for sex, and the birth control that enables me to have a loving sexual relationship with my husband without having more children than we can afford. I’m thankful for my reproductive rights, which have allowed me to decide when to have a family and how large it will be. I’m thankful that I live in a country where women are valued as full human beings who get to decide what will happen to their own bodies, and not a hellhole like Nicaragua where women are dying of ectopic pregnancies thanks to their Catholic Church-supported, “pro-life” abortion ban.
Should Fertilized Eggs Have Rights?
By RITA HEALY/DENVER Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2007
An implanted fertilized egg. 3D4Medical.com / Getty
If Colorado for Equal Rights for Human Life and other anti-abortion groups can wrangle 76,000 signatures in the next six months, theirs could be the first state in the nation to vote on whether a fertilized egg should legally be considered a person. Despite resistance from abortion-rights groups, the Colorado Supreme Court on November 13 approved the ballot measure — 40 years after Colorado became the first state to relax abortion laws — giving a boost to a conservative political movement that has worked doggedly for decades to overturn Roe v. Wade. Colorado Right to Life spokesman Bob Enyart says, “Embryos are living human beings with eternal souls and spirits. You just have to refrain from killing one to see what a precious child it is.”
Voters would decide if a fertilized egg is entitled to the Colorado constitutional protections of inalienable rights, equality of justice and due process of law. But opponents charge that the proposed ballot measure is just another attempt to fight abortion and a particularly misleading attempt because the word “abortion” would not appear on the ballot.
Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains says the proposal is “far outside the mainstream of Colorado.” “By defining ‘person’ as any fertilized egg, the measure would call into question the legality of most hormonal birth control methods, such as birth control pills, as well as in-vitro fertilization,” says regional president Vicki Cowart.
It would also raise the questions: what would happen to embryos awaiting implantation? Approximately 400,000 of them have been cryo-preserved in U.S. fertility clinics. Unused embryos are sometimes stored for later use, donated to others or given to scientists, according to Barbara Collura, executive director of RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association. “We support the patient’s right to determine the disposition of the embryos,” Collura says.
But Enyart, who is also a Denver Christian radio talk show personality, holds up the Snowflake Baby Movement as an alternative: Don’t kill any embryos; instead, encourage people to adopt them. About 100 frozen embryos have already been adopted in the U.S., says Enyart, who routinely steers his listeners to the Snowflake website for information on how to give an embryo a home.
It’s hard to predict how many signatures Colorado’s ballot measure will attract, but what’s clear is that the anti-abortion movement is fractured. Colorado Right to Life has a mailing list of 10,000 and a $100,000 budget but is no longer affiliated with the National Right to Life Committee — “kicked out,” says Enyart. He explains that the NRLC has refused to back “personhood” for decades, citing the unlikelihood that it would pass muster with the U.S. Supreme Court. The “purists” of the movement are so opposed to anything that even hints of approval for abortion that one new coalition of anti-abortion groups took out full-page ads in national newspapers criticizing evangelical leader James Dobson after he applauded the Supreme Court’s decision to uphold the ban on partial birth abortions. In their eyes, Dobson, who opposes abortion, had given tacit approval to the “regulated killing of the unborn” by giving the nod to a court decision that recognizes the legality of the procedure in general even as it sets limits to it. And this week in Washington, the same coalition, with representatives from 12 states, plans to announce a new national splinter group — American Right to Life — which will be headed by Brian Rohrbough, whose son Daniel died in the Columbine shootings and who has been an outspoken critic of the American “culture of death.”
Nationally, pro-choice sentiments appear to remain predominant. The Center for Reproductive Rights in October released poll results indicating that a majority of voters don’t support government interference with “medically necessary procedures prescribed by health care professionals.” The poll found that 55% of respondents wanted abortion rights protected by federal law. Still, anti-abortion efforts similar to those in Colorado are currently under way in at least a dozen other states, including Georgia, Mississippi and Michigan, while officials in two states — Montana and Oregon — have already given such attempts the official thumbs-down.
MORE INFO HERE http://WWW.KGOV.COM
HAHA!! Yeah right!
If this story that the Washington Post put out is anything like the last story claiming a woman was unjustly punished for not being able to murder her baby then the mom probably had her baby murdered by drowning or some method like that.
I am very thankful that Nicaraugua realizes that they need MORE people and that by murdering innocent and defenseless babies a mom becomes a murderer and devalues the entire nation as a result of murdering her child.
My only regret about Nicaraugua’s law against abortion is that it allows those moms and abortionists who are guilty of murdering babies to live. To bring about justice they most both be surely, swiftly, painfully and publicly executed after a swift and speedy trial resulting in a conviction from two or more pieces of evidence. Its sad that the mom who drowned her baby shortly after giving birth to her was given 30 years in prison when justice demands that she and the abortionist be executed.
And if you’re wondering, I would much rather have 6,000 dead moms and 6,000 dead babies who die unintentionally as a result of abortion being re-criminalized in the USA each year then to have 100 times more babies murdered (that’s 1.2 million) with the OK of the US government.
Here’s the background on the New York Times article based upon a number of lies in their effort to make us feel bad for a Nicaraguan mom who allegedly murdered her baby by abortion. She actually drowned her baby and was convicted for it.
http://www.youtube.com/v/HsvNI557KEA&autoplay=1
And again, its better for a mom and her baby to die accidentally then for the mom to willingly become a murderer. At least she won’t have to face Jesus Christ with the knowledge that she is a vile baby murderer.
Zeke:
You’d rather have 12,000 DEAD than just 6,000? Interesting…
Hey all my PL buddies on here, do y’all have a problem with abortion when an ectopic pregnancy occurs?
I mean I though (please correct me if I am wrong)but I assumed PL’s didnt have a problem with abortions if the woman could die as a result of the pregnancy…
Zeke, shut up and get a life.
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And Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Much love to everyone!
And I am thankful for another year of having my fanily around in good health (especially my Papa), I am thankful for the wonderful friends I have, and so far I can be thankful for no more surgeries this year (but keep your fingers crossed, the results from my tests come back next week…)
I’m Thankful for our Savoir Jesus Christ, my wonderful family, my friends, my job, the country I live in, and all of my online friends at JillStanek.com
I was thankful that I could approach the warm, still form on the table, drive a cold, curved steel instrument into it’s dark cavity and scrape out the products of consumption.
Stuffin’ is my FAVE!
I’m thankful for all of you who commented on this blog who didn’t turn it into arguing or bickering, but just merely stating what they were REALLY thankful for this thanksgiving. I wonder why some people can’t just get the stick up out of their rear’s for ONE DAY..an important day where we should all be thankful for every gift we have been given..including the gift of life. As for those people who could not rise above the name-calling and rudeness even for TODAY, I will think nice thoughts and prayers for you in bed tonight. You’ll need them.:)
Jeebus,
I’m thankful I’m not an ignorant, mouth-breather like Jill and all of the other ignorant mouth-breathers who have posted above. It must suck to go through life afraid of your own shadow and so insanely concerned with what your neighbor is doing behind their door. I feel sad for each and every one of you freaks. You’re pathetic.
We’re pretty grateful you’re not one of us too. See? We agreed on something!
Laura.
I was thankful that I could approach the warm, still form on the table, drive a cold, curved steel instrument into it’s dark cavity and scrape out the products of consumption.
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Stuffin’ is my FAVE!
as my mother says, “Give the devil his due…”
That was pretty funny!
Nice to meet you, too, Jeebus!
It’s not so much for WHAT I am thankful for, but to WHOM. Like Anonymous said, “I am grateful for His Mercy.”
John L., Nice to see you. Don’t worry, it’s a Libra thing [ or so I’m told:}
*giggles*
I’m thankful for birth control, too, Edyt… and thankful for not being pregnant. Hee hee.
Being pregnant at Thanksgiving is the best thing to ever happen to a person seriously. I was about 6 months with my daughter..and I just ate, and ate, and ate…..
and ate, and ate, and ate….
HAHA.
Thanks, Heather. Libras are hotheads? I wasn’t aware.
Well, anyway, before I go, I feel obligated to point out the following:
“Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law.”
-Catechism of the Catholic Church 2271
That is the official position of the Catholic Church. Its rules are not arbitrary. It would not ask a woman to sacrifice her life when confronted with an ectopic pregnancy. All efforts must be made to save both lives, but if the only medical procedure which can be done to save the woman results in the indirect and unwanted killing of the unborn child, then we solemnly accept our inability to save everyone and we save the life which is capable of being saved.
Urgh…I felt pregnant after I got done eating…my belly was sooooo big. AND I got indigestion/nausea last night from the overabundance of rich food. I don’t doubt that my favorite part of being pregnant will be the ability to eat whatever you want without judgment. “But the BABY wants a hot fudge sundae! She told me so!”. :D
My boyfriend’s sister is pregnant and says that she ISN’T able to eat a lot because the baby’s always in the way, pushing against her stomach! I figure what’s the point of being pregnant if you can’t eat to your pregnant heart’s content!? (She’s been losing weight, too, but she was already a little heavy prior to the pregnancy, so the doctors aren’t too worried….she’s gonna have a Christmas baby and I cannot wait to go shopping for adorable baby girl clothes. :D)
John, no. Only when we get ticked. I actually am very calm in “real life.” cyber life is a good place to vent.
Zeke said,
“And if you’re wondering, I would much rather have 6,000 dead moms and 6,000 dead babies who die unintentionally as a result of abortion being re-criminalized in the USA each year then to have 100 times more babies murdered (that’s 1.2 million) with the OK of the US government.”
and then,
midnite said,
“Zeke, You’d rather have 12,000 DEAD than just 6,000? Interesting…”
————not following, midinte.
midnite said,
” mean I though (please correct me if I am wrong)but I assumed PL’s didnt have a problem with abortions if the woman could die as a result of the pregnancy…”
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I, for one, (and may just be one of the only one) do have a problem with abortion at ANY time, under ANY circumstance for ANY reason. No shades of gray here…just black & white for me!
John L: I would like to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving, even if I’ve at least temporarily banished myself from the comments due to my far from perfect ability to control my temper. Don’t worry, though, I’m working on it.
John, I am thinking a good bit of what you are referring to may be what you said to me, and don’t even worry about it, as far as I’m concerned. I know you’re not all the worried about what I think, but in your exchanges with John M, and others, and me too I know you’re not a “bad guy,” not at all.
Here’s hoping you and your family and families had a really great Thanksgiving.
Best,
Doug
cyber life is a good place to vent.
:: laughing ::
Gee, I don’t seem to have a butt anymore.
Seriously, though, Heather, I’ve noticed that’s true for some people.
AB Laura:
I find that unbelievably shocking…you wouldn’t allow a woman to end her pregnancy just so she could live? I thought life was the most important thing to protect….One would have thought that it’s better to lose one than to lose both, which is the most likely outcome if you force a woman to continue a dangerous pregnancy. If the pregnancy is causing a risk of death for the woman, end it by inducing or c-section if you have to to remove the fetus/baby. If you have a problem with outright abortion, fine, induce/operate and remove a live baby…but no one has a right to make a woman continue pregnancy when her life or future physical health is in serious jeopardy. Things have never been that black and white.
Aww Christmas babies are great…my daughter was born on february 6 so she has her birthday wayyyy close to christmas..I might just buy a bunch of presents and split them between Christmas and her birthday..who knows. Either way..she always has a ton of stuff!! She is too spoiled.
Lyssie,
This may clear up any confusion regarding my opinions:
I do have a problem with abortion at ANY time, under ANY circumstance for ANY reason. No shades of gray here…just black & white for me!
I firmly believe that life is a series of tests given to us by God to see if we will ALWAYS put our faith in Him.
Doctors can, and have been wrong countless times regarding the expiration dates on people
AB Laura, I’m not afraid to die either. I know that my body will be cremated or in the ground {haven’t decided yet} However, that’s why I don’t find it necessary to visit any one’s grave site. They aren’t there. Although, I do NOT knock anyone who chooses to do so. I know that I’m going on to a beautiful place. A place that I will never want to leave. I will be reunited with loved ones. I couldn’t go on if I didn’t think there was something great to look forward to.
I also liked Tammy Faye. What faith she had!
AB Laura: I respect your beliefs, as you are remarkably consistent in your views (which is refreshing). While you might think ending a pregnancy before the end of nine months (by any means, abortion, induction, c-section) to save a woman’s life is wrong due to your spirituality and faith in Jesus, I have to take a stand on behalf of those who do not share the same beliefs. You make think it wrong for someone without your religious values to save her own life, but I think no one should have legal jurisdiction barring a woman from saving her own life if a pregnancy goes badly.
Lyssie,
Thank you for your kind words. I’m only stating my beliefs, and what I pray, if I were ever in that situation, I would hold true to. I can only pray my faith stays strong in the face of adversity!
I most certainly do not judge others for their decisions. I am only accountable for mine. How could I possibly judge one that does or does not believe in God. I cannot. That’s God’s job…not mine. I can pray for them, though!
Heather,
I’m hoping I go up in the Rapture, but if not, I really don’t care what happens to my “earth suit”…I told my family, “whatever is least expensive, do!” I don’t go to cemeteries, either, and also have a difficult time going to wakes & funerals. I only do so to offer emotional support to the families. I realize that it is important. A great, big hug goes a long way! Thank God for Heaven, though!
I am thankful for many, many things…
*gets out laundry list of thank-yous*
I am thankful for my immediate family. I am thankful for my physical health (still workin’ on the mental part! :D).
I am extremely thankful for my lab job as it teaches me so much and I work with such wonderful, awesome people (who I’m very thankful to have met).
I am thankful for my puppy because he makes me happy.
I am also quite thankful for all the people I’ve met through debating and discussing things online. It’s been quite fun reading and studying the opinions of those that are different from mine (and it’s always fun to see people who actually agree with me too, of course!).
I hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving and I’m sorry I’m postin’ late! :)
AB Laura, I’m not afraid to die either. I know that my body will be cremated or in the ground {haven’t decided yet} However, that’s why I don’t find it necessary to visit any one’s grave site. They aren’t there. Although, I do NOT knock anyone who chooses to do so. I know that I’m going on to a beautiful place. A place that I will never want to leave. I will be reunited with loved ones. I couldn’t go on if I didn’t think there was something great to look forward to.
Posted by: heather at November 24, 2007 2:04 PM
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When grandma was still alive and well enough to travel, we took a picnic basket and delivered flowers to our ancestor’s graves. Old cemeteries are beautiful places and a great place to talk about our ancestor’s lives. My gr gr grandfather was a sexton in a cemetery in his later years. His wife’s mother’s stone was still readable when I was a child. It had a covered wagon etched into it and mention of her travel from Maryland to Illinois.
My ancestors reside in me through DNA as well as the telling and knowledge of their lives. I don’t believe that they exist anywhere else and certainly aren’t capable of caring otherwise.