Obama’s lie about Born Alive’s paragraph (c)
The New York Sun almost got it right this morning.
The headline reads, “Clinton: Obama should vote ‘No’ on abortion issue she backed,” which is good. Clinton has been lambasting Obama to pro-aborts for voting “present” on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act as state senator when she voted “yes” for it as U.S. senator, “holding him to a tougher standard than she holds herself,” states the NYS article.
Obama’s excuse, quoting the NYS….
He also argued in 2004 that the state and federal bills were substantively different, telling the Chicago Tribune that he would have voted for the “born alive” bill had he been in Congress at the time.
This is where I’m sorry the NYS missed the mark, although I provided the reporter documentation. I do commend him for getting closer than any other MSM reporter has.
The definition of “born alive” in both bills was identical:
“the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, caesarean section, or induced abortion.”
Originally both bills were completely identical. But crafters of the federal bill changed paragraph (c) for its final version:
Illinois’ paragraph (c): A live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law.
Federal paragraph (c): Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being “born alive” as defined in this section.
And here is where Obama is lying. The IL Born Alive senate sponsor tried to amend it to add federal paragraph (c) and Obama, as chairman of the committee hearing the bill, stopped him and killed the bill.
In other words, Obama purposefully obstructed the IL version from being the same as the federal version. He is lying when he says he would have supported the federal version. He prevented that.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
What’s the difference between leaving a dying fetus on a shelf to expire and leaving a tiny child at home to “suffer” while you go out and party?
Negligence starts at home…
I do wish the abortion will take the central stage during this election year. I have a feeling that neither of the pro-abortion candidate would be elected.
Off the subject. I saw yesterday Oprah was promoting Juno, however I had to take my wife to a doctor and could not watch the whole show. Did any one watched the show? Did they put a “pro-abortion” spin on it? Thanks.
What’s the difference between leaving a dying fetus on a shelf to expire and leaving a tiny child at home to “suffer” while you go out and party?
You’re kidding, right?
FetusF, the difference is that leaving a newborn to die is apparently legally okay, while leaving a tiny child alone to suffer is a prosecutable offense. Thanks for making Jill’s point!
This is gettin’ funny…
FF is taking a jab at Jill. When Jill stated she partied a bit when her first boy was young.
Ok I must have missed that part. My bad.
You don’t find it ironic that THIS chick is giving Barak Obama lectures on negligence?:
Laura, 12:290p: You are projecting. I am by no means bitter. My son
suffered due to an immature mother who would sometimes rather party than
spend time with him, back in the day.
I sinned. But God saw an opportunity for the blessing of giving a unique,
special child to the world, despite that.
I met Rich when Michael was 3-1/2. We married when he was 5, and Rich
adopted him, which was another blessing.
Posted by: Jill Stanek at January 16, 2008 4:51 AM
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Jess, I did not. I got pregnant at age 19 and married to my
18-year-old boyfriend (who was still in high school) at 4-1/2 months
along. I had my oldest at age 20. I was divorced and a single mom by age
23.
I cannot regret my lapse because that would mean I regret my wonderful
son, who has now given me 3 beautiful grandsons.
But our life was hard for a time. And he suffered most for it.
Posted by: Jill Stanek at January 15, 2008 10:34 AM
But what is your point, Laura? Besides the obvious that it was simply mean spirited jab at Jill.
If you can’t see the difference between killing a child, and being temporarily ” neglectful ” to a child, then I just don’t know how to respond to you.
Soooo… where is the part where she says she left her son home alone???
Exactly Rosie,…I was going to say the same thing. For the first three years of my life, my mom left me with babysitters, and I was never traumatized by that.
She went out almost every night with her friends (I know this thanks to my diary!), but I was blissfully unaware of it!
Oops I mean *her* diary.
Jeeeez! I would have had children had I known it was OK to ingnore them and let them suffer neglect.
Motherhood must be the easiest job in the world!
It’s no work at all! I’m IN!
I wanna sit around all day and party all night like YOU GUYS!
Jeeeez! I would have had children had I known it was OK to ingnore them and let them suffer neglect.
Motherhood must be the easiest job in the world!
It’s no work at all! I’m IN!
I wanna sit around all day and party all night like YOU GUYS!
You’re really grasping at straws, Laura. I feel bad for you.
No child had ever “suffered” in my care.
Yeah, why don’t you attack Barack Obama…
Hi Bethany!!
Lol, I’m glad you corrected that. I was going to be amazed and floored if you were some kind of revolutionary prodigy who was writing in a diary in the womb!
Hi Carla! Sorry, I went offline after I posted that so I missed you. :)
Erin, LOL
BO is a monster, a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Perhpps we deserve such a blood sucking vampire for President.
Exactly Rosie,…I was going to say the same thing. For the first three years of my life, my mom left me with babysitters, and I was never traumatized by that.
She went out almost every night with her friends (I know this thanks to my diary!), but I was blissfully unaware of it!
Posted by: Bethany at January 17, 2008 11:54 AM
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Jill said that her son suffered. I haven’t seen her explain how or why he suffered. She may have meant a number of things.
Sally,
In the quote attributed to Jill, the implication is that her son suffered due to her preference to partying over spending time with him.
Bethany is saying that her mother partied plenty and she did not suffer for it.
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