Weekend question
Granny Grump at the Real Choice blog has listed “The Top Ten Signs Your Boyfriend is an Abortionist.” Witty:
10. You’ve seen him run medical instruments through the dishwasher.
9. The top three numbers on his speed-dial are a lawyer, a bookie, and a bail bondsman….
8. His neighbors are always wondering who puts the red biohazard bags in the dumpster.
7. He deducts his [child] pornography collection from his income tax as an educational expense.
6. Every hooker in town knows him on a first-name basis.
5. He says he went to Harvard, but gets the alumni newsletter from the Autonomous University of Guadalajara Medical School.
4. He keeps a stock of blue exam pads in the back seat of his car.
3. He’s always ducking out the back door to avoid process servers.
2. He gives you chocolate-covered Percocet for Valentine’s Day.
And the number one sign your boyfriend is an abortionist:
1. He has sex with you first, then slips you a mickey.
Can you think of any other signs one’s boyfriend is an abortionist?
[HT: reader Janet]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I love it. Just looking at those mugs makes me shudder to think any woman would let one of these guys within 10 feet of her…for any reason.
Should we do “Top Ten Signs Your Boyfriend is a Pro-Lifer?”
Is he a child molesting priest?
Is he a deadbeat dad?
Has he blinded any nurses with a nail bomb?
Does he rape the girls at his home for unwed mothers?
Has he had sex with a mule?
Does he snort meth with gay male prostitutes?
Has he re-gifted a fetus to the President?
Did he declare bankruptcy rather than pay the judgments against him?
Does he post graphic footage of women’s splayed crotches or crush porn on his website?
Does he hang out in front of contractors homes on holidays and during Superbowl because he has no friends and his family can’t tolerate him anymore?
Gee, I could go on for days…
You could go on for days, but you’re off-topic, Laura. Focus.
Is he a deadbeat dad?
Don’t know many of these that are ACTUALLY PL, Laura, sorry. I mean REALLY PL. Anybody can say it, but as we all know, actions speak louder than words.
Can you think of any other signs one’s boyfriend is an abortionist?
*He has a picture of George Tiller on his nightstand.
I thought “deadbeat dad” was quite freudian. Laura’s posts are always that.
Gee, two of the founders of the Army of God are deadbeat dads. Anti-choice activist and Curves founder Gary Heavin did jail time for being a deadbeat dad. Randall Terry is a deadbeat dad.
Don’t breed ’em if you can’t feed ’em.
FF:
That’s only four men out of millions of pro-life dads?
I could expand on the “boyfriend is an abortionist” list as well,
10. Has he been accused of everything from exposing himself to rape?
9. Does he insist he only had sex with the “other woman” once in 11 years?
8. Has he ever left a woman to drown?
7. Does he suffer delusions of being a college boy when out romping with women when he’s in fact a 60+ y/o man?
6. Do you find rusted dirty surgical instruments in your desk drawer?
5. Does he take the family dog to the office?
4. Does he ever appear drugged?
3. Has he been charged with frequent counts of sexual abuse and assault?
2. Does he refer to abortion patients as “dogs”?
1. Does he frequent porno theatres in the dead of night in dangerous neighborhoods?
That 3rd guy looks like William H. Macy.
Doug,
Who is William H. Macy?
@Doug: Oh my fritz he does look just like him!
Sad…William H. Macy is awesome…
Who is William H. Macy!!!??? :)
@Mary: He’s an actor. Have you ever seen the movie “Fargo”?
Q: How many right-to-lifers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Three. One to write to Congress, one to pray for light, and one to go shoot the local electrician in the back.
“FF:
That’s only four men out of millions of pro-life dads?”
Yeah and how many male abortionist do the things you mentioned? And what about the females?
BTW, I know several people who call themselves pro-lifers who say abortion is murder for selfish women but when it comes to them it’s obviously different so it’s no problem when they abort. MY parents for one. They believe abortion is murder but when I asked what would happen if I was pregnant with anacphelic fetus or something of that nature? “Don’t worry we would find someone.”
But then again my family has money…
hate the sin, not the sinner.
“8. His neighbors are always wondering who puts the red biohazard bags in the dumpster.”
You know you got a pro-lifer when they’re going through red biohazard bags in dumpsters (without gloves!) looking for “evidence.”
“You know you got a pro-lifer when they’re going through red biohazard bags in dumpsters (without gloves!) looking for “evidence.”
Better that than being the one putting the “evidence” there in the first place.
There wasn’t any “evidence.” They just put themselves in senseless danger for getting Hep C, HIV and other diseases.
Yeah and how many male abortionist do the things you mentioned? And what about the females?
Jess, read Lime 5. There’s hundreds upon hundreds listed.
http://www.lifedynamics.com/Abortion_Information/Pro-life_Product/?id=1
Jess 11:23,
“FF:
That’s only four men out of millions of pro-life dads?”
Yeah and how many male abortionist do the things you mentioned? And what about the females?
It’s hard to know, but I do know that 100% of abortionists, male and female alike, are killing babies.
SOMG 11:14am
Your point is ….what?
Ari-chan,
Thank you. No I’ve never seen Fargo.
Mary, the point is that right-to-lifers 1. are violent and 2. do not solve problems.
SOMG,
Something like abortion providers.
Mary, here is a picture of William Macy:
Bethany,
Thank you. I’m sure I’ve seen him but really can’t recognize him.
I know he’s in a lot of movies but never can remember which ones. He’s not ever been a memorable actor, to me. But his face is certainly unique! lol
This is offensive garbage!!! The vast
majority of doctors who perform LEGAL abortions
are highly competent,skilled and dedicated
professionals who do absolutely nothing like
the ridiculous caricatures of your sick jokes.
Care to name a few, Robert?
Just out of curiosity.
Also, Robert aren’t you the one who said that you thought that those pro-abortionists who vandalized a church with graffiti were “courageous”?
If this is your standard of “courage”, then what is your standard of “competent”, “highly skilled”, and “dedicated”?
Robert,
There’s a shortage of abortion providers in many states. Why aren’t more “highly competent, skilled, and dedicated professionals” lining up to do abortions?
The statistics speak for themselves: In the USA abortion causes less than one maternal death per hundred thousand abortions. That means abortion is less than one tenth as dangerous as childbirth.
Someone must be doing something right!
SOMG,
The death rate from illegal abortion was steadily decreasing for years prior to Roe v Wade and in 1972 was at an all time low. I suppose the illegal abortionists were also doing something right.
I’ve seen women treated for complications of “safe legal” abortion and its better diagnostic and surgical techniques as well as IV and antibiotic therapy that enables these women to be more effectively treated and spared life threatening complications, not their supposedly competent abortionists. Forty or fifty years ago these women may well have died, or required prolonged hospitalization. As far as I know, complications were never reported.
“Robert,
There’s a shortage of abortion providers in many states. Why aren’t more “highly competent, skilled, and dedicated professionals” lining up to do abortions?”
Because the idea of being killed for doing your job isn’t exactly comfortable?
Oh! I know who he is now! He was in JP3 and I THINK he was in Con Air….
Another sign your boyfriend is an abortionist:
Before he eats his Mostacolli, he picks through it like he’s trying to find something.
Wasn’t he in one of the Jurassic Parks, too? I think he played the dad of that kid in one of them.
Anon, yes, jp 3
Because the idea of being killed for doing your job isn’t exactly comfortable?
OR the idea of DOING killing for a job isn’t exactly comfortable.
Dan,
OH, “Big duh” event for me!
Because the idea of being killed for doing your job isn’t exactly comfortable?
I’m sorry, Ingrid…I think you may have meant,
“Because the idea of killing for your job isn’t exactly comfortable?”
By the way, Mary, the “shortage” of abortion docs is a myth.
The only areas where it’s hard to find an abortion doc are ultra-rural areas where there’s a shortage of docs in general–the sort of places where they offer to pay off your student loans for you if you’ll go there and provide primary care.
When was the last time you heard of a woman in the USA bearing a child because she couldn’t find a doc to do her abortion? Never. Conclusion: We have enough abortion docs to meet the demand for their services, and that’s all we need.
Regarding your other post, you should know: complications from abortion serious enough to require hospitalization are rare events. See for instance http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/140/8/620
“I’m sorry, Ingrid…I think you may have meant,
“Because the idea of killing for your job isn’t exactly comfortable?”
No, I meant exactly what I wrote. Being in constant danger of bombing or shooting, anti-choicers picketing my work and / or home… it would kinda turn me off the job.
Ingrid,
Spare me. Doctors and nurses serve on battlefields. My co-worker was a medic in Vietnam. I’ve heard a few of his horror stories. Tell him about the supposed danger abortionists face. I’d love to know what he says, after he stops laughing, or crying. Our big city emergency rooms are dangerous. Just getting to work requires armed guards and inside is not a whole lot safer.
These are all top quality medical personel. Why isn’t danger a deterrent to them?
Ingrid,
I just broke out the tiny violin for them.
Boo-hoo.
Ingrid,
I think parents should NEVER send thier kids to college. Look at V-tech, NIU, etc. It’s so dangerous to be a student.
It’s not my fault the US likes fighting wars. Or starting them…
Other topic. Not going there.
Mary, being a doctor truly isn’t inherently dangerous (outside malpractice risk). However, people hear of people protesting abortion providers at home and work, stalking, and on occasion attacking them. Dont exactly get that normally with every day doctors.
SOMG,
Go to NARAL’s website and you’ll get it straight from the horse’s mouth.
I’m pleased that my state was given an”F”. 93% of our counties have no abortionist. One abortion clinic in a nearby larger city, staffed by a cocaine abusing, wife beating abortionist, recently closed down.
Mary,
It’s just pro-abort propaganda at it’s finest. They refuse to see that it’s an ugly, unrewarding job to do. Only the greed-mongers want to the dirty work of an abortionist.
Ingrid,
Then address the issue of some of our big city emergency rooms which in some cases are more dangerous then battlefields. Why do they attract such high quality medical personnel?
I’m not going to address issues I’m not even remotely informed about.
Besides, there are still teachers in high schools and colleges, despite everything that’s happened in the (recent) past. Some people just like their jobs, I guess.
@Bethany: He’s a good actor, but yeah, he is usually scuttled to the back of most scenes in films. He was excellent in a movie about this salesman for the “Watkins Company” with cerebral palsy that was on TNT ’round Christmas time about 5 or so years ago. I think you’d like that movie. :)
@Mary: Well, you’re not missing much by not watching “Fargo”. Minnesotans do *not* talk like that. Lol.
Mary, NARAL has an agenda too. They want their readers to send $.
I repeat: When was the last time you heard of a woman bearing a child because she couldn’t find a doc to do her abortion? Answer: Never. The supply of abortion docs is determined by demand for their services, which has dropped as the baby-boomers age past reproductivity.
SoMG,
Don’t the baby-boomers have kids, too?
Not as many as the baby-boomers themselves.
Dan,
It depends on where the doctor is working and our big city ERs can be very dangerous. Believe me Dan, wherever the ER, it will attract the worst the human race has to offer. I say that from my own experience. Oh, and the hospital I worked at that cared for prisoners from the local state prison, I mean the most dangerous dregs of the prison system. YOu want to talk about danger? These guys would slit your throat in a minute. I took care of plenty of them and it never did my coronaries any good, believe me. Compared to this, what most abortionists endure is tame.
Again, why do top quality medical personnel work in these circumstances if danger is such a deterrent?
And yes Dan, medical personnel are stalked, threatened, and attacked.
Mary, if that is the case I truly feel for them. However, it isnt NEARLY as publicized as the things that happen to those who perform abortions.
Also to add on, I bet the pay is probably better in ER’s than abortion clinics. Just a thought.
Ingrid, 2:03PM
Excellent point about the teachers. Now that’s getting to be very dangerous.
Dan,
Its true believe me. Publicized or not. Just watch some of these ER reality programs and the point will hit home.
Ingrid brought up a great point about teachers, an increasingly dangerous profession.
“Danger” simply does not explain the shortage of abortion providing personnel. I’ll let you in on a dirty little secret Dan. For all the lip service about “choice” and and despite legalization, the medical community still looks down it nose on the abortionist.
Pay in the ER is better? I think true dedication better describes it. You wouldn’t get me in one of those ERs for all the tea in China.
Unfortunately that’s true. Whatever happened to respect for teachers?
SOMG,
Go argue with your friends at NARAL. I’m just telling you what they whine about on their website, and its not about the abundance of qualified medical people who want to be involved with abortion.
Mary, I’m simply hypothesizing, I obviously dont know anything for sure, nor do any of us. All we have is speculation. *shrugs*
Ingrid, respect for teachers has long gone down the drain. It’s gotten ridiculous. However, there are some teachers that make me wonder if they cheated their way through school….. though that is a tiny tiny minority.
Anyway, part of it is I dont think people realize how much responsibility teachers are shunted, etc. On top of that, they are constantly accused by (some) conservatives of being indoctrinators of liberal values. In fact that isnt really the case, at least with my experience. A lot of my teachers are moderate, some lean one way or the other, but they keep politics out of discussion. Well, excluding my world language department. Most of them are farther left than I am! lol. My current spanish teacher seems to be an exception to the rule, shes a conservative-leaning moderate for now. Though she does admit since leaving her christian college, and has had the chance to think for herself, shes gotten more liberal than she had been.
Ingrid, 2:20PM
I agree. I remember when my tiny elderly teachers had no problem keeping 36 kids in order and when chewing gum in class got you in big trouble.
I also remember my first grade teacher using the ruler on fingers.
“Ingrid, respect for teachers has long gone down the drain. It’s gotten ridiculous. However, there are some teachers that make me wonder if they cheated their way through school….. though that is a tiny tiny minority.”
Oh yes… my cousin just started working as a teacher and tutors to make some extra cash. One afternoon, some little kid just pulled a fake gun and held it to her co-worker’s head. The kid really thought it was a joke!
Ingrid,
Ugh, the things that parents don’t teach their kids….
Mary, I have explained why NARAL exaggerates the “shortage” of abortion providers–they want their readers to send $.
I am a more reliable source than NARAL, and I tell you, there is no shortage of abortion docs in the USA except in ultra-rural areas where there are shortages of all docs.
If there were an abortion-doc in every county, most of them would have nothing to do. There just aren’t that many women who need abortions!
SOMG 1:47
I already stated that most of the complications I’ve seen did not require hospitalization, not because they weren’t serious or potentially serious, but rather because of better diagnostic, surgical, IV and antibiotic therapy.
Where 40 to 50 years ago women would have been hospitalized they are now discharged.
These complications went unreported as far as I know.
Also SOMG, do women report to you if they had a baby because they couldn’t find an abortionist? If not, how do you know for an absolute fact that no woman has had a baby because she couldn’t find an abortionist?
Sorry SOMG but I do trust the NARAL website on this. Its well sourced. Why would any clinic hire sex offenders, perverts, doctors with suspended licenses, drug and alcohol addicts, and docs well past retirement age if there was such an abundance of top quality medical personnel willing to work in these clinics?
Oh, and why does your hero Tiller hire people off the street? I’ve checked his website and can find no credentials where his staff is concerned.
Mary, unless you are a professional, I know more about this than you do.
Mary,
The idea that clinics hire “sex offenders, perverts, doctors with suspended licenses, drug and alcohol addicts, and docs well past retirement age” is another myth. You can find lists of examples on right-to-life sites, but no STATISTICS that would show that this sort of thing is more common among abortion docs than among other types of docs.
Why don’t right-to-life sites post these statistics? Why do they confine themselves to lists of bad practicioners? Because the numbers aren’t there. Sex offenders, perverts, drug and alcohol addicts, and docs well past retirement age are as common in other branches of medicine as they are in abortion. Lists of examples of bad practicioners do not prove anything about the speciality in question.
By the way, Mary, you are wrong when you say that abortion technology has not improved. The growing popularity of suction curretage (which uses plastic instruments), rather than sharp curretage (which uses a curved metal blade), for early abortion is one example of a current, ongoing improvement. Non-surgical abortion is another. And the use of ultrasound-guided intracardiac injection for late abortion is a third.
SOMG,
Yes SOMG I am a professional. I thought you’d have figured that out from my previous posts where I had to set you straight concerning certain medical procedures and how drugs should be properly used.
Heather has posted lists here time and again for you concerning dangerous and incompetent abortion docs who were suspended for the reasons I mentioned. I recall she challenged you to give lists of the competent ones and you never did. I’ve seen a few of these abortion docs and believe me, they were pushing 100. They were well past the age of safely practicing. One for certain was 81y/o. He was in a news magazine.
The point is SOMG is that women were promised these dregs would be out of business once abortion was legalized. If there is such an abundance of competent doctors willing to do abortions, why were these dregs ever hired? Why does great-grandpa have to keep working? Why is a woman without a medical license operating in California? What about that sex offending abortionist in California that even Sen. Boxer demanded be investigated. Not to mention the abortionist in Phoenix, Brian Finkel, who was finally put away after years of sexually abusing patients.
Just where are all these reputable doctors you keep talking about SOMG? Say what you want about NARAL, but I believe their concern about this situation is very sincere.
Per SOMG:
“By the way, Mary, the “shortage” of abortion docs is a myth.”
and again…….
“Mary, NARAL has an agenda too. They want their readers to send $.”
SoMG,
So you admit NARAL and their pro-choice agenda lies and misleads again to serve it’s own purpose? Thank you for confirming what we have known all along.
How shocking.
You go Mary!!!!
SOMG,
Where did I say anything about abortion technology? Suction curettage isn’t new SOMG, for heaven’s sake I saw it in use almost 30 years ago.
I said its been improved medical care which has enabled women who would have been hospitalized 40 to 50 years to be treated and discharged.
Should we do “Top Ten Signs Your Boyfriend is a Pro-Lifer?”
Is he a child molesting priest?
Is he a deadbeat dad?
Has he blinded any nurses with a nail bomb?
Does he rape the girls at his home for unwed mothers?
Has he had sex with a mule?
Does he snort meth with gay male prostitutes?
Has he re-gifted a fetus to the President?
Did he declare bankruptcy rather than pay the judgments against him?
Does he post graphic footage of women’s splayed crotches or crush porn on his website?
Does he hang out in front of contractors homes on holidays and during Superbowl because he has no friends and his family can’t tolerate him anymore?
Gee, I could go on for days…
Posted by: FetusFascist at February 16, 2008 10:13 AM
FF,
My pro-life boyfriend isn’t putting women’s life in danger by pretending to be an abortionist and then charging them for that privilege they are willing to pay good money for.
Mary, you wrote: “Heather has posted lists here time and again for you concerning dangerous and incompetent abortion docs who were suspended for the reasons I mentioned.”
Any first-year student of statistics or epidemiology knows that lists of examples prove NOTHING. I could compile lists of dangerous, incompetent docs in ANY speciality if I had the time.
In order to convince any serious person, you need to post statistics showing that dangerous and incompetent docs are MORE common in abortion than in other medical fields. You can’t, because they aren’t.
“I recall she challenged you to give lists of the competent ones and you never did.”
I’m not posting names on a right-to-life web site. Sorry. And I’m not going to waste time looking up lists of practicing GYNs for you. And in any case, a list would prove nothing. Statistics, please, dear. Numbers.
“I’ve seen a few of these abortion docs and believe me, they were pushing 100. They were well past the age of safely practicing. One for certain was 81y/o. ”
So that’s your sample? A “few” docs from your personal experience? Your thesis committee would laugh you to scorn.
You clearly lack the basic education in statistics and epidemiology required to discuss these questions intelligently. You should go back to school, or else stop pretending to know anything about abortion.
William H Macy was really good in Magnolia. Also I love Filliam H. Muffman.
Also I love Filliam H. Muffman.
Posted by: pro-humanlifeprettyinpink at February 16, 2008 4:01 PM
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That was the only time I’ve seen Colbert completely lose it on The Report.
I was rollin’
Though she does admit since leaving her christian college, and has had the chance to think for herself, shes gotten more liberal than she had been.
Posted by: Dan at February 16, 2008 2:25 PM
Catholic colleges offer the same opportunities for critical thinking as public colleges, with one added bonus – they can talk about God.
SOMG,
My issue was never statistics and who’s sued more than who. I have always maintained there are incompetent docs in every specialty. My question was and remains why, if there is such an abundance of competent abortion doctors, must clinics scrape the bottom of the barrel. These dregs should never have operated in the first place. I bring up great grandpa not for statistical reasons but to question why he would even be practicing and who would hire him? Certainly some young competent doctor is chomping at the bit to take over so great grandpa can enjoy a long overdue retirement. Then there’s the 70 y/o lady doc who has to fly to S.Dakota’s one abortion clinic (I’m sure NARAL made that up)because no local doctor wants to take over the business. How can that be SOMG? There’s all kinds of doctors willing to do abortions.
Lists mean nothing? Now, if memory serves me correct, you assured Heather you could provide such lists of competent doctors and to the surprise of no one, didn’t.
Also, spare me your condescending claptrap about returning to school. The ignorance you have displayed concerning anesthetic drugs and proper monitoring of patients has made my skin crawl.
Oh and please answer my question as to why your hero Tiller hired people off the street to care for patients and administer drugs. People who don’t even have brains enough to call a rescue squad when a patient collapses. Couldn’t he find medical professionals willing to work for him or was it just cheaper this way?
I don’t know Tiller personally. I don’t know how he makes hiring decisions.
I do know his reputation in the medical community. He’s the best in the Western Hemisphere at what he does.
There are Christian religious symbols on a Illinois state owned university campus.
Why not the mascot Huskie?
Why aren’t Sally, Doug, FF, protesting this public display of the Christian religion on a state owned property?
yllas, what are you talking about?
“Then there’s the 70 y/o lady doc who has to fly to S.Dakota’s one abortion clinic (I’m sure NARAL made that up)because no local doctor wants to take over the business.”
Mary,
Actually that statement is true. The digusting nag flies over to SD (once a week I think) just to kill babies. A news channel did a story about her and interviewed her on the flight over to SD. She wouldn’t show her face.
So my next question is SOMG,
I have never heard of any other OB/GYNs flying over to SD to do pap smears, hysterectomies, masectomies or delivering babies because there is a shortage of OB/GYNs.
If there is no shortgage of baby killers, where are all of the abortionists in SD????
FF,
I was so disappointed when that wasn’t on the “best of” dvd. But I am compiling videos of my own in the meantime. If you want me to send a video to you, I can! One of my favorites of all time! If you have any other videos in mind, I might have them too.
Mary,
Actually that statement is true. The digusting nag flies over to SD (once a week I think) just to kill babies. A news channel did a story about her and interviewed her on the flight over to SD. She wouldn’t show her face.
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She’s a retired OB/GYN who had to re-up her insurance to provide her services to women who need them. She makes no money on this endeavor. Her name is Miriam McCready, and you can read her story and see the CNN video – including her face – here:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/31/griffin.abortion/
South Dakota has a problem finding specialists in all areas of medicine.
NIU.
There may well be a shortage of abortion docs in SD. Who the hell wants to live in SD? I bet there are shortages of all kinds of specialists there.
McCreary has been making this trip for seven years. At age 70, she wants doctors in South Dakota to take her place.
But so far no one has stepped forward. So she said she will keep coming back.
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So SD has been waiting seven years and counting for even just one abortionist to start up a chop shop. Where are all of those abortionsists SOMG?
And Mary, if you seriously think a list of bad practicioners proves anything about the makeup of a medical speciality overall, you need to go back to school right away.
My boyfriend Mike was in Sturgis with his Patriot Guard Rider friends when one of them had a stroke. They had to fly him out as there wasn’t a vascular surgeon within 400 miles.
It’s hardly shocking that they don’t have a full-time abortion provider.
5. Does he take the family dog to the office?
Joseph Rucker (scroll down)
4. Does he ever appear drugged?
William Malcolm Knarr, P. Scott Ricke
1. Does he frequent porno theatres in the dead of night in dangerous neighborhoods?
Jesse Ketchum, George Wayne Patterson
And Mary, if you seriously think a list of bad practicioners proves anything about the makeup of a medical speciality overall, you need to go back to school right away.
We’re all still waiting for the list of GOOD ones, SOMG. It shouldn’t be difficult at all to compile one, the way you keep talking.
Ya know, folks, we have a confirmed trio of wife-slaying abortionists.
Could you imagine the talking heads going nuts if it was three docs who worked for pro-life pregnancy centers who had been convicted of killing their wives?
Oh definitely Christina! no kidding!!
We’re all still waiting for the list of GOOD ones, SOMG. It shouldn’t be difficult at all to compile one, the way you keep talking.
Posted by: Bethany at February 16, 2008 5:35 PM
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Um, innocent until proven guilty rules here.
Let’s assume that unless a medical professional has been tagged for malpratcice that they are competent.
My boyfriend Mike was in Sturgis with his Patriot Guard Rider friends when one of them had a stroke. They had to fly him out as there wasn’t a vascular surgeon within 400 miles.
It’s hardly shocking that they don’t have a full-time abortion provider.
Posted by: FetusFascist at February 16, 2008 5:26 PM
Shocking? Really?
How can you akin an abortion procedure to vascular surgery?? Afterall, abortion is really not a surgery right? It’s just a five minute walk-in procedure. You know, like removing a wart. Not to mention, you’d think abortionists would be clammoring to set up shop in SD. It would be the perfect location for making millions from killing babies. You could probably work one week on, one week off, spend some time in the south of France on the off-weeks. What a life. With no one else interested, you could charge a ton of money and make millions.
SOMG, 5:19PM
Like I said, where are all these docs so willing to do abortions and why do clinics have to scrape the bottom of the barrel? You just won’t answer my question SOMG.
Your hero is the best in the Western Hemisphere but hires people off the street to illegally supervise patient care and administer drugs.
Um, innocent until proven guilty rules here.
Let’s assume that unless a medical professional has been tagged for malpratcice that they are competent.
Posted by: FetusFascist at February 16, 2008 5:40 PM
OK, then who are they???
Mary, you wrote: “why do clinics have to scrape the bottom of the barrel? ”
That’s a myth. With few exceptions, they don’t.
You wrote: “[Tiller] hires people off the street to illegally supervise patient care and administer drugs. ”
Did you say “illegally”? There’s nothing illegal about Tiller’s personnel. If there were, Operation Rescue would start up another grand jury.
SOMG,
Being in biz, why aren’t you outraged to think that someone like tiller could be hiring unqualified staff in his office? If he is sooooo good at what he does, why aren’t people throwing their resumes at him for a job?
FF 5:05PM
You might ask SOMG where all these doctors willing to do abortions are. It sounds like the old girl could use a break. Also, why wouldn’t she want to show her face? Isn’t she proud of the important service she performs?
Did you say “illegally”? There’s nothing illegal about Tiller’s personnel. If there were, Operation Rescue would start up another grand jury.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 16, 2008 6:00 PM
Yes, of course it would be up to Operation Rescue to monitor Tiller as nobody on the PC side thinks this is necessary.
She’s a retired OB/GYN who had to re-up her insurance to provide her services to women who need them. She makes no money on this endeavor. Her name is Miriam McCready, and you can read her story and see the CNN video – including her face – here:
FF,
You are lying. We’ve been through this before when you were asked to give a list of abortionists that care SOOOO much about women that they do pro-bono work like other professionals who care. This was the only one you could come up with. I called you on it…remember? She DOES make money doing this. Her “work” is NOT pro-bono. Remember the story? Between her travel expenses going to and fro, she is usually in the red. It DOES NOT mean she doesn’t make any money, it means she’s spending MORE than she makes. If this woman moved to SD to do her work, she’d make plenty of money.
Nice try, once again. Stop lying.
Anon, 6PM
People without the proper training and licensing have absolutely no business supervising patient care and administering drugs. It is illegal for them to do so, period. That’s why there are licensing and regulation boards, though they obviously don’t do their job in Kansas.
It would be like your doctor allowing his/her receptionist to presicribe you treatment or administer drugs as he/she sees fit.
I’ve already discussed the “myth” of the clinics scraping the barrel.
Mary, you wrote: “why wouldn’t she want to show her face?”
I bet she’s received death threats from right-to-life terrorists. It’s not that uncommon, you know. There are a lot of low-level terrorists in the right-to-life movement who make death threats.
And I repeat: There may well be a shortage of abortion docs in SD. Who the hell wants to live in SD? I bet there are shortages of all kinds of specialists there.
Um, innocent until proven guilty rules here.
Let’s assume that unless a medical professional has been tagged for malpratcice that they are competent.
Noooooo, Laura, Somg made the claim that he could compile such a list “easily”. Let’s see him do it.
SoMG,
Since FF could NEVER provide a list of abortionists that do pro-bono work simply because they care so much about women, as they claim they do, maybe you can?
True professionals that don’t care about the money and do the work because they actually care about people do pro-bono work. I have found this true in EVERY profession that claims to help people, EXCEPT for abortionists.
FF,
It would largely depend on exactly what kind of care his friend needed. A teacher at our local school, who had a leaking brain aneurysm, had to be transported to a university hospital 2 hours away even though we have neurosurgeons here in town. My guess was the location of the aneurysm made it necessary for more specialized care.
Depending on the exact nature or his stroke, there may have been a very limited number of specialists and facilities available to properly care for him and that is why it was necessary to fly him out.
It does not in itself indicate a lack of specialists in SD.
Also, any OB could take over that abortion practice. Money and hours would be great. So, where are they?
True professionals that don’t care about the money and do the work because they actually care about people do pro-bono work. I have found this true in EVERY profession that claims to help people, EXCEPT for abortionists.
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That’s not true.
It actually COSTS McCready to do her work in South Dakota.
By the way, the word “proffesional” is all about getting compensation for services. I don’t know any health care amateurs.
Gee, the only person I had that discussion with was poor, crazy, drunken Heather.
HMMMMMMMMMMM…
She DOES make money doing this. Her “work” is NOT pro-bono. Remember the story? Between her travel expenses going to and fro, she is usually in the red. It DOES NOT mean she doesn’t make any money, it means she’s spending MORE than she makes.
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Gee, her biggest expense is her insurance so that she can help those women. She isn’t making money.
She’s making no money for her services.
No, I don’t know anybody who does pro-bono work, unless you want to count procedures done during residency, for which the resident typically doesn’t make any extra money. But the hospital collects $ for those.
The following is a little off-topic but I have a personal issue with pro-bono work: Any professional (doctor, lawyer, whatever) who does pro-bono work makes up for it by overcharging the patients/clients who do pay. You have to do this in order to meet your operating expenses.
Otherwise, the professional in question would be unable to pay his/her rent, or his/her employees’ salaries, or his/her malpractice insurance premiums.
Isn’t it a form of abuse to overcharge paying patients in order to cover the costs of your pro-bono work? If the paying patient wants to pay for someone else’s care, that should be up to him/her.
So I personally don’t believe in pro-bono work, philosophically. But that’s just me.
SOMG,
Get real. Anyone who wants to find and kill her badly enough can and will. This woman’s identity is some big secret? I’ve seen her face on TV. Come on SOMG, she’s proud of this great service she performs.
Who wants to live in SD? Tsk tsk, SOMG. How elitist. Its an incredibly beautiful state, rich in history and culture.
Shortage of specialists. Tell me how many orthopedic surgeons fly in to do surgery? How many cosmetic surgeons? How many general surgeons? Do they show their faces?
FF,
Are you really that naive? She DOES get paid. She just spends more than she makes. You can’t say that she doesn’t make any money, because she DOES. She may not make a profit, but that’s her own stupidity. If she moved next door to the clinic, she would make tons. Really, FF, WAKE UP!
You didn’t have that conversation with Heather, you had it with me.
BTW, you never answered my question. Did you ever find anyone that actually does do pro-bono abortions on a regular basis? Not a one-time thing like you stated after 9-11 and after Hurrican Katrina. Regular basis, FF? Hmmmm?
SoMG,
You’ve never heard of doctors and/or dentists going to other countries to provide services for free to those in need? Or groups that travel to Mexico to build houses for the poor for free? I can provide you a list of tons of them if you’re interested?
She’s making no money for her services.
Posted by: FetusFascist at February 16, 2008 6:28 PM
And then……a “professional” weighs in.
No, I don’t know anybody who does pro-bono work, unless you want to count procedures done during residency, for which the resident typically doesn’t make any extra money. But the hospital collects $ for those.
Posted by: SoMG at February 16, 2008 6:31 PM
Gee, FF and SOMG, you should really try to get your stories straight. I am not sure who not to believe most here.
Sandy,
It’s because pro-bono work doesn’t happen in the abortion industry. Pro-aborts want us to think that the only reason these places are open is to “help” women. WOW! If that were really the case, we surely would be able to find one, lone soul who does pro-bono abortions, wouldn’t we?
It proves our point, time & time again, that these places are not in the business to help women, they’re there to take their money. That is all that they care about – money. Period.
Per SOMG:
Who the hell wants to live in SD?
Apparently all those poor women who want abortions.
South Dakota’s population is growing at a faster rate than any other state in the upper Midwest. State officials hope to use that to their advantage to attract more business development. (Cara Hetland)
http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2004/12/31_hetlandc_sdpopulation/
Wow and all of these people too!!!
Sandy,
It’s because pro-bono work doesn’t happen in the abortion industry. Pro-aborts want us to think that the only reason these places are open is to “help” women. WOW! If that were really the case, we surely would be able to find one, lone soul who does pro-bono abortions, wouldn’t we?
It proves our point, time & time again, that these places are not in the business to help women, they’re there to take their money. That is all that they care about – money. Period.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 16, 2008 6:43 PM
Anon,
How true. I have read in more sites that former abortionists admit to making millions. The money is easy and quick.
“The last doctor in South Dakota to perform abortions stopped doing them about eight years ago; the consensus in the medical community is that offering the procedure is not worth the stigma of being branded a baby killer.”
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/01/01/stigma_strict_laws_make_abortion_rare_in_south_dakota/
Apparently, PP isn’t affected by that “stigma”…Heck, they’re proud to be baby killers! (Sickos)
“Each week, 15 to 20 or so women from across South Dakota find their way to the Sioux Falls Planned Parenthood for an abortion, no easy feat for many of them. South Dakota is home to some of the poorest counties in the country, including the poorest, Buffalo County, seat of the Crow Creek Sioux reservation. State law forbids any public funding for the $450 procedure, even in the case of rape or incest.”
“Looby, whose father is an obstetrician-gynecologist, said she has talked to many doctors in South Dakota who say they have no personal objection to performing abortions but cannot risk their careers and community standing by offering the procedure.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/26/AR2005122600747_pf.html
Ahhhh, no $$, no funding, no abortionists willing to do the “work”. Got it.
How would they risk their “careers”???
I LOVE SD!
Anon 6:50PM
No problem at all. There’s all kinds of doctors willing to do abortions.
SoMG,
Yeah, Tiller’s right up there next to Jack the Ripper – best for killing women in the Western Hemisphere.
There are so many crappy abortionists because the industry is totally unregulated. It’s that simple. How many “clinics” are regularly inspected? I’ll bet elevators get more frequent inspection than an abortion clinic.
Mary,
In SD?
Patricia,
Excellent point. How sad but true.
SoMG,
I’m sorry, I forgot to thank you for your honesty in response to my question to you. I appreciate it & it’s commendable.
Why do you guys all have a fit when someone makes money for the work they do? Not everyone wants to be a housewife. Do your husbands get paid to do their work? I get paid for my work.
Some people’s skills and time have monetary value.
Some people’s skills and time don’t.
FF,
HA-HA! STILL couldn’t find anyone, huh? Is that the best come-back you’ve got? Please.
No one has a fit because people make money for what they do.
The point, that you seem to be missing OVER & OVER & OVER again, is that abortionists don’t care about the women. They ONLY care about the money. If my statement wasn’t true, you WOULD find at least one, lone soul out there who does it simply because they care. There’s volunteers all over the world who do work because they care for no money at all. Again, FIND ONE, just ONE, and I’ll shut up.
FF,
WHAAAATTTT?
Are you assuming that we are all housewives and our time and skills have no value?
Sandy,
I think she’s just talking out her “you know what”. She’s tired. She’s been googling for over an hour now trying to find an abortionist who does pro-bono work. She’s frustated. Maybe after she has some more caffiene she’ll come back & make some sense. I feel sorry for her.
:)
No, I actually came up with a doctor who provides abortion services without the promise of financial gain, and an entire clinic that did the same after Katrina.
Those services were provided because those people care about women.
Patricia, abortion clinics are regulated just as any other medical clinic.
Why do you guys all have a fit when someone makes money for the work they do? Not everyone wants to be a housewife. Do your husbands get paid to do their work? I get paid for my work.
Some people’s skills and time have monetary value.
Some people’s skills and time don’t.
Our work is so valuable that it is priceless.
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This is hysterical. If it had been presented this way, none of us would have done it!!!!
POSITION: Mother, Mom, Mama
JOB DESCRIPTION: Long term, team players needed, for challenging permanent work in an often chaotic environment.
Candidates must possess excellent communication and organizational skills and be willing to work variable hours, which will include evenings and weekends and frequent 24 hour shifts on call.
Some overnight travel required, including trips to primitive camping sites on rainy weekends and endless sports tournaments in far away cities. Travel expenses not reimbursed. Extensive courier duties also required.
RESPONSIBILITIES: The rest of your life. Must be willing to be hated, at least temporarily, until someone needs $5.
Must be willing to bite tongue repeatedly. Also, must possess the physical stamina of a pack mule and be able to go from zero to 60 mph in three sec onds flat in case, this time, the screams from the backyard are not someone just crying wolf.
Must be willing to face stimulating technical challenges, such as small gadget repair, mysteriously sluggish toilets and stuck zippers.
Must screen phone calls, maintain calendars and coordinate production of multiple homework projects.
Must have ability to plan and organize social gatherings for clients of all ages and mental outlooks.
Must be willing to be indispensable one minute, an embarrassment the next.
Must handle assembly and product safety testing of a half million cheap, plastic toys, and battery operated devices.
Must always hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.
Must assume final, complete accountability for the quality of the end product.
Responsibilities also include floor maintenance and janitorial work throughout the facility.
POSSIBILITY FOR ADVANCEMENT & PROMOTION: Virtually none. Your job is to remain in the same position for years, without complaining, constantly retraining and updating your skills, so that those in your charge can ultimately surpass you
PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE: None required unfortunately. On-the-job training offered on a continually exhausting basis.
WAGES AND COMPENSATION: Get this! You pay them! Offering frequent raises and bonuses. A balloon payment is due when they turn 18 because of the assumption that college will help them become financially independent.
When you die, you give them whatever is left. The oddest thing about this reverse-salary scheme is that you actually enjoy it and wish you could only do more.
BENEFITS: While no health or dental insurance, no pension, no tuition reimbursement, no paid holidays and no stock options are offered; this job supplies limitless opportunities for personal growth and free hugs for life if you play your cards right.
Thanks Bethany!
Couldn’t have said it better.
:-)
FF;
BTW, I thought I worked my arse off when I worked prior to having my children. Did quite well for myself. Actually worked up to a VP level of a national company. Made quite a good salary.
But little did I know that being a “housewife” was a 24/7 job and would be 10 times more demanding than anything else I have ever done. Now I get paid with lots of hugs and kisses and my job is more valuable than any other job I have ever had.
I understand that you will never understand this.
Yay Moms!!!
Qualifications to work in an abortion clinic?
The anesthesiologist at Hanam Rotem’s practice was a receptionist with no medical training.
The anesthesiologist at Joe Bills Reynolds’ practice was originally hired as the janitor.
Abram Zelikman’s recovery room was overseen by his receptionist.
Nope, Sandy, she won’t get it. Childless people never do.
Carla, yes! Moms unite!
*grins* Well, I’m reimbursing my parents for my tuition money…
Yeah, SoMG that’s why they run the dead babies through the garborators and call Roto-rooter (can’t put ’em in garbage bags anymore, cuz, them damned prolifers keep finding the bodies. And yes, abortion clinics are so regulated that we find blood splattered all over the walls of abandoned clinics.
That’s why we have personel not trained in CPR, who don’t or won’t call EMS when there’s a problem.
Like I said, you die in an elevator, there’s a HUGE problem.
You die in an abortuary, it’s the woman’s fault.
Oh sorry, you don’t die in elevators cause they inspect them- and you get a permit every year to operate it.
I get it.
ERIN!
How are you feeling today?
Patricia, in that case, why is the maternal death rate so low? Less than one maternal death per hundred thousand abortions. If the clinics are as bad as you say, why is abortion in the USA so safe?
No, I actually came up with a doctor who provides abortion services without the promise of financial gain, and an entire clinic that did the same after Katrina.
Those services were provided because those people care about women.
Posted by: FetusFascist at February 16, 2008 7:42 PM
BS! You didn’t provide jack. You provided a woman who doesn’t know how to manage her profits, and a clinic who took advantage of a devastating situation for free publicity.
I put my boots on if you’d like to provide more.
Yeah, SoMG and how many women can’t have babies due to their abortions? Incompetent cervix, infections that scar. Some of these complications don’t show up immediately, only years later. How many women’s deaths are due to complications from abortion – they don’t put that on the death certificates only the cause ie haemorrhaging, heart failure etc.
Not to mention the 100% fatality rate to the unborn child.
Oh and let’s not forget the wonderful compassionate way they treat the women themselves at these caring, safe clinics. When a woman expresses doubt, grief, confusion what does the compassionate caring staff do – they lie and tell her it’s not gonna hurt, it’s not a baby, it’s only cells, blood and mush.
Yup, it’s safe. Safer than riding in an elevator.Which is inspected every year by the way. Did I mention that?
More signs that your boyfriend is an abortionist:
>>>>When you are together intimately, he yells,”DON’T MOVE!” at you.
>>>>He understands the term ‘pro bono’ as a reference to the Sonny Bono fan club.
>>>>As a response to recite four-letter words that are no-no’s, he heads the list off with: Baby, Life, Good, Moms, Dads, Twin, Toes, Nose, Eyes, Feet, Arms, Legs, Head, Neck, Nail, Hair, Ribs, Skin, Lips, Girl, Boys, Keep, Hand, Knee,
Cute, Pure, Love…
Christina,
Bingo, bingo, and bingo. Numbers seven through ten were in reference to feminist heroes who support abortion.
Angela,
I love it! (especially your 4-letter words)
That’s great!
FF 7:42PM
These were women in desperate circumstances. They had likely lost their homes and everything they had, and had no where to turn.
Did the abortion providers offer services such as emergency shelter, food, clothing, and medical care? Did they donate any money toward these services since they “care” so much about women?
Or did they just abort these women and send them on their way?
I’m feeling a little better, thanks! Still on some painkillers- my whole body is achey and my face too, especially where the airbag hit. But getting better apart from the fact that I’m all swollen and bruised. I’m still glad I didn’t hurt anyone, even though I’m feeling pretty lousy.
Erin,
Well, your still in my thoughts and prayers. I couldn’t stop thinking about you today. I had a car accident years ago. I wasn’t wearing my seatbelt, and I hit my nose off of the steering wheel. I didn’t break it, though, because I had a nose-job before that (all teflon!) but it still hurt, was swollen, and my eyes were black and blue for a few days. Parts of my body I didn’t know even existed hurt! The pain & swelling go away. Thank God for painkillers!
Hey, if you sleep with your head elevated, it will reduce the swelling in your face.
You are so sweet for thinking of others while you hurt. God bless you, Erin & I’m so glad you’re going to be ok!
SOMG 4:33PM
Its certainly obvious that Tiller did not hire his staff on the basis of their medical training, medical experience, and because they had met state requirements by licensing. His standards, and I use the term loosely, seem pretty lax.
As Sandy asked, why aren’t all kinds of qualified medical people handing in their resumes to work for him?
After all, he’s the best in the western hemisphere at what he does.
I didn’t know that about sleeping with my head elevated! I’ll definitely try that tonight, thanks for the advice! I’m glad that you made it through your accident all right. I had no idea how terrifying the experience could be until it happened. And I don’t think I’m being all that sweet- I was driving too fast and swerved. The accident was completely my fault. I wouldn’t have been able to live with myself if I’d gotten someone else hurt :-/
Erin,
No, you are being sweet. In most accidents, there’s always one at fault. Some people don’t admit it. You do. Some people are only glad they didn’t get hurt, but you are thinking about others. I think it’s sweet!
Erin,
Please take care of yourself and I’m thankful you weren’t seriously injured.
I broadsided a train several years ago. Totalled my car but I was fine. I had my seatbelt on, something I wear religiously. Actually I was thrilled about the car since no self respecting car thief would steal it and I desperately wanted to get rid of it and get some money for it.
Erin, you’re in my thoughts & prayers. Thank God you’re ok.
Scary how many people here seem to have been in bad car accidents. Thankfully it seems no one was too badly injured. I gotta admit though Mary, that’s a nice one liner. lol.
On an unrelated, and much happier note, UMass Boston essentially gave me a full tuition/fees scholarship. Its my financial and academic safety, but at least I know for sure I’ll be going to college!
Yay! Congrats, Dan! I remember how thrilled I was when I got my first acceptance letter and scholarship.
Thanks!
Yeah, I’ve gotten all my letters, now I’m waiting for responses from some scholarships I applied for at schools, like the UMass Boston one. Now I’m just waiting on the Suffolk University full tuition one I applied for.
Dan,
Congratulations and very best wishes. I’m very happy for you. What’s your major?
What one liner?
Poli Sci, possibly a double with History and then maybe off to law school.
and that line about no thief would steal it. I just found it a bit funny.
Dan,
Ohhh, I did it again. Hit post without putting in my name or e-mail. I’m the author of the above anonymous post 10:14PM
Dan,
Thank you. If you saw the car you would see that’s a very charitable assessment. It needed to be put out of its misery.
lol Mary.
Dan,
Congratulations! I pray for the best for you, and can just feel that you’ll do great at whatever you put your mind to!
Mary,
I’m glad you were ok, too! What a way to put that car out of its misery, though! A train? It puts new meaning in the phrase “trainwreck”!
LOL
Anonymous,
Actually I couldn’t believe my good fortune in totalling it.
Dan,
Best of luck in your studies. Like Anon, I also know that you will excel in whatever you do.
“Who wants to live in SD? Tsk tsk, SOMG. How elitist. Its an incredibly beautiful state, rich in history and culture.”
@Mary: With all due respect, I’ve lived in South Dakota, and while nature-wise it is a very pretty state…that’s about all there is to it. They have sky-rocketing alcoholism rates among teens (you can’t drive down a road more than a mile without seeing a sign that marks the spot where people died in drunk driving crashes). They have abnormally high marijuana and cigarette usage.
They are one of the epicenters of the meth epidemic. South Dakota has one of the poorest, if not THE poorest county in the nation, and that would be where the Pine Ridge reservation is.
I really don’t see what is so great about South Dakota, except the lack of a property tax and ridiculously low taxes-in-general.
Ari-chan,
I guess its in the point of view. There are plenty of places I would never choose to live but people do and love it. I have relatives in SD and my father was raised there. I very much enjoyed my visit to Rapid City over 30 years ago. Lead Deadwood was nice. Unfortunately, what you describe could apply to so many areas.
When I returned to my home town, a major city, a few years ago, I expected a sinkhole. I was pleasantly surprised to see so much vitality and revival and just felt so positive. It was so great to see it coming to life. Still, people and statistics say its a sinkhole.
Like I said, all in the point of view.
yllas: Why aren’t Sally, Doug, FF, protesting this public display of the Christian religion on a state owned property?
Not a big deal to me.
yllas: Why aren’t Sally, Doug, FF, protesting this public display of the Christian religion on a state owned property?
Not a big deal to me.
Posted by: Doug at February 17, 2008 2:15 PM
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No skin off my nose.
Hey guys!
My next music video is up. It’s a parody of Knocked Up. The humor is not clean so be forewarned. It is too bad that the quality is poorer so some of the details are lost. But oh well. Hope you enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nummLSSajQo
yllas: Why aren’t Sally, Doug, FF, protesting this public display of the Christian religion on a state owned property?
Not a big deal to me.
Posted by: Doug at February 17, 2008 2:15 PM
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No skin off my nose.
Posted by: Sally at February 17, 2008 2:41 PM
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Couldn’t care less.
Why aren’t Sally, Doug, FF, protesting this public display of the Christian religion on a state owned property?
Because it’s not affecting THEIR lives at all. If it did, they all would be protesting in full force.
Why aren’t Sally, Doug, FF, protesting this public display of the Christian religion on a state owned property?
Because it’s not affecting THEIR lives at all. If it did, they all would be protesting in full force.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2008 3:41 PM
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Exactly! How could religious symbols effect my life? I am not mandated to worship them.
Exactly, Sally! Religious symbols are invisible to you guys.
There were also Stars of David and Wiccan Pentacles at the tribute, not to mention candles and flowers in beer bottles to salute their late friends.
To each his own.
Exactly, Sally! Religious symbols are invisible to you guys.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 17, 2008 4:15 PM
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Not invisible. They simply have no personal meaning for me. I speak for no one else and really don’t care if symbols have meaning for others. I really don’t see any harm in symbolism or superstition. I have a collection of gargoyles. Not that I believe in evil spirits or a need of protection. I simply enjoy the sentiment and their fanciful historical use as water spouts.
Next video, remake of Michael and Janet Jackson’s scream. I think this one is bloody brilliant.
I recommend you watch the original first, or a lot of the jokes may be lost. Also it’s kind of offensive in some parts, no kids blah blah blah.
Enjoy :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkThkCEdsGk
Granny Grump at the Real Choice blog has listed “The Top Ten Signs Your Boyfriend is an Abortionist.” Witty:
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Why does this chick’s profile say that her field is architecture when she has a degree in Humanities and teaches English to foreign students? I just love this:
“A particular area of satisfaction was giving the students a cultural experience. The most sophisticated was helping to create a
PIP 4:52PM
Please tell me his nose doesn’t fall off.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr…
PIP, I’m on the cheap machine and it only downloads videos in chunks. I’ll try again later.
Mary, no, lol my sister plays michael and I play Janet.
FF no worries, just check it out when you can :) I swear you won’t be disappointed.
PIP,
You guys are WAY too good at lip-synching.
Excellent job with the videography.
However, I found it very disturbing. BUT, given the fact that I’m ALMOST twice your age, you should probably take that as a compliment.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks anon!
pip, whats the difference between you and the prohumanlife pip? or did i miss something?
No I switched back. I changed it for a while because I eat meat.
But then I decided to limit my name to a 4 syllable max.
I hope you watched the video Dan! ;)
ah, lol, ok haha
You guys have talent, that video is amazing, I must admit. Now if only I had a talent like that I could use….lol
Thanks! I’m mighty proud.
No problem!
Where does Jill find these kooks?
Posted by: Sally at February 17, 2008 6:12 PM
Hummmmmm……..
Damn, that was a good video.
“He has the United Nations population control award on his mantle”