Quote of the Day 2-7-11
“Sorry, ladies. The free abortion ride is over.”
~Kristen Schaal on ‘The Daily Show’, The Huffington Post, February 3
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Feb.07, 2011 9:10 am |
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That’s a real shame. I’ve loved Kristen Schaal’s work in other projects. Hate to see her spewing that kind of unthinking pro-abortion boilerplate.
–Matt
Same here, Matt.
That clanking sound? Oh, just my Flight of the Conchords DVD hitting the bottom of the garbage can.
Me too Matt and Ninek! :-( But actually she shows how dumb liberals were with the “its not rape” Roman Polanksy situation (how do you spell his last name? Do I care? nope) Those “pro-woman” pro-aborts like Whoopi defended a CHILD RAPIST. Thanks for showing that to us again Kristen.
No matter how violently or not violently a woman is raped its a horrible situation. But since when do we execute children because their mothers were raped and their dads were scumbags? THATS the issue at hand.
Um Sydney, it’s not the only issue at hand. These legislators are symbolically invalidating the experiences and trauma of all rape survivors, the ones drugged by their boyfriends and the ones ambushed on the way to their cars. The next step is to claim that EC is abortion, and to deny public hopitals from providing it as part of rape kits. Do you really want that to happen? Do you want women to face the added misery of waiting around to see if they’ve conceived? That’s humane? THAT’S woman-centered?
Megan,
Seriously it is time for you to do your homework.
Start reading the stories of women conceived in rape who are waiting for you to tell them to their face that they should have been killed.
Rebecca Kiessling for one. http://www.rebeccakiessling.com
Juda Myers for another.
http://www.juda4praise.com/
Also start reading the stories of women who carried their children to term after conceiving in rape. They are grateful!!! Give them some credit for being stronger than you think!!! They are glad that they DID NOT kill their children no matter the horror of what they have been through.
Oh, and then start reading the stories of those who have aborted their babies after conceiving in rape. Their pain and regret is heart breaking.
I’m talking about emergency contraception, Carla, not abortion of an embryo or fetus. Do you not support rape survivors having access to affordable emergency contraception? That’s fine to say you don’t; it just means you’re willing to privilege the well-being of a ball of cells over the interests of a woman who’s just experienced something incredibly traumatic. Do you have on record the number of rape survivors who forwent the EC and later on said, “Geez, I regret potentially having prevented an embryo from implanting in my uterus?”
How does abortion at any stage heal rape?
Megan, please read a biology textbook before you debate on here. Please. Its so tiresome going over science constantly. Whether you agree or not its scientific fact that human life starts at conception, not implantation. So obviously, yeah we are against emergency contraception which kills a newly created human being. Like Carla said, aborting a baby at any stage does not undo rape.
My husband’s friend was date raped and got pregnant. She kept her baby girl. I would love to see you tell this woman to her face that she should have aborted her beloved daughter. You would never do it.
That little girl btw is now about 10 years old. She is not less than a human being just because her father is a rapist.
Sydney, you’re right. I wouldn’t, because I wouldn’t want to rob a woman in that position of the opportunity to decide for herself what to do with her body and her life. Yes, HER life. If she chose to parent, then all the more power to her, and I mean that.
I’m sorry, but you’re fighting a losing battle to claim that an embryo should have the right to life. You’re making your position seem extreme and, to be frank, heartless. You want to bring on the anecdotes?? Friends of mine who were sexually assualted in college were RELIEVED to be able to obtain the morning after pill from a public hospital. Yes, they still have flashbacks of all that trauma, but they’d be pretty insulted if you sugested having a baby would have helped with the healing process. When should babies be treated as consolation prizes?
I do not need a legislator telling me what rape is, thanks. How do these “lawmakers” propose to enforce their new statute? Grill a woman about how sex was forced upon her? Schaal is absolutely right: it’s nuts, and there’s no way you can dress it up in compassion. It’s just plain wrong.
And if your friends decided to keep that baby, HER baby you would have been there for her? You would have stepped up and stepped in? And she could have done it WITH YOUR HELP!!!!
Sorry, but ONCE AGAIN. A baby is NOT a part of a woman’s body. Helloooooooo. I have been pregnant 3 times with little boys. That was not my penis, Megs.
The trauma of rape is separate from the trauma of abortion.
A woman who chooses to keep her child conceived in rape has 9 months to seek therapy and counseling for the rape and welcome HER child into the world. Time to think and heal and accept all of the help and support and encouragement that is out there for her.
That others simply leave a woman to fend for herself is extreme, and to be frank, heartless. To offer a woman who is in shock from rape, a pill at the hospital as though that will somehow “help” falls into that category as well. Extreme, heartless. A pill will never heal rape.
PS
A baby is a baby. Never a consolation prize. What a foolish thing to say.
Maybe next, this Schaal woman and Megan can do a skit about how funny the Holocaust was.
i;m still trying to figure out how a baby is part of the woman’s body, especially if she’s pregnant with twins? I have a friend that has a set of twins who are almost 2 years old. I bet she would tell you that they were not a part of her body like the liver or pancreas….especially since one is a BOY. Plus, when a baby kicks in the womb, that’s not momma kicking. My sister in law told us that before Sarah (almost 10 months old) was born, her movements were like a gymnast….very active. I remember feeling my oldest niece in the womb when she hiccuped! That was a pretty cool experience.
You need to study biology, hon, cause the baby has DIFFERENT DNA than the mother! And women don’t have penises!
Abortion is totally and completely wrong no matter what, but if you take the whole thing about abortion and the taxpayer part out it is a funny skit.
I mean if it was just a group of people sitting down and saying “Okay, let’s separate rape from forcible rape” it would be silly, which is what this is.
Hi Carla,
I obviously would have been there for her. I have a friend right now, in fact, who suspsects she might be pregnant. I’ll be here every step of the way with whatever choice she makes, and after.
Ha, did I ever say the morning after pill would be a panacea for rape trauma? No. A woman doesn’t have to accept it. But it should be available. It’s called smart medicine.
Hi John,
Your comments are completely irrelevant and stupid, and countless Jewish people have objected to the ‘ole Holocaust-abortion comparison. Such an analogy trivializes the civil rights struggles oppressed groups have dealt with. And sorry, fetuses just don’t fit in that category. The last time I checked, Jews weren’t hanging out in people’s bodies, drawing resources from the person’s nutrient supply.
Megan Said:
The last time I checked, Jews weren’t hanging out in people’s bodies, drawing resources from the person’s nutrient supply.
So according to you, Megan, location and dependancy are both legitimate reasons for killing someone? Babies who breastfeed are “drawing resources from the person’s nutrient supply.” Does that make it ok to kill them? What about when you were a fetus? When did you suddenly become a human?
As for the rape situation, we do NOT punish people for the crimes of their fathers. Where and how someone was conceived has no more effect on personhood than race or religion do.
Oh come on Megan. It is delusional to say the things that you do. You act like human fetuses are in gangs prowling the streets looking for women that they can climb up into and “hang out” in.
Most women are responsible for the very fact that they are pregnant. They CHOSE to have sex. Sex makes babies. Rape is such a straw man because rape accounts for less than 1% of all abortions. Rape RARELY produces children. The stress of rape often inhibits ovulation and raises the PH of the vagina to be an inhospitable environment for sperm so that conception is unlikely. But even in the rare instances that rape produces a baby, I think it is EVIL to kill a baby for her father’s crimes. We don’t kill children because their parent(s) are scumbags!
Megan,
I was waiting for the word PANACEA to pop up!! Thanks, girl!! :)
Smart medicine offered to someone suffering after rape? In a completely vulnerable state she needs an advocate. I have to wonder how many smart pills have been handed out by proabort medical professionals to “help” traumatized women before they could even gather their thoughts.
I will draw a parallel to how our abortions have “helped” us, right Megan?
As a pro-life rape survivor, I am appalled at the weird and stupid qualifications of “rape” by the Republicans. I am staunchly against abortion; and while I do not believe abortion will unrape a woman, it is a horrible, horrible thing to go through, and it is quite different than seeking an abortion because you just don’t feel ready to have a baby, or it’s just too much of a hassle. The vast majority of abortions are for “convenience” or “lifestyle”….and, as was stated above, rape is not likely to make a woman pregnant. It is a hard case–abortion in the case of rape, but it is a fair case. I don’t know what would have happened if I had become pregnant from the rape, but I didn’t. I do know it screwed me up for a long long time.
The problem is, the pro-abortion community keeps holding on to this rape argument as if it’s the only reason women seek abortions. First, why can’t we try to arm ourselves, so that we aren’t raped? I wish someone had taught me how to protect myself. I wish people would stop making abortion the focal point here.
Abortion is a crime; the unborn deserve to live. But to try to put rape into categories is insulting and very, very dangerous.
FWIW, I have read that the wording “forcible rape” was to distinguish rape from statutory rape. By doing a search of the terms you will see the precedent. I highly doubt any authors were attempting to create categories other than those two admittedly different ones. Mary Lee, I am sorry you suffered such a terrible experience. I can count on one hand the women I consider close personal friends who have not been raped. But again, the testimonies of those who experienced rape and then abortion said they were startlingly similar. I remember reading one young woman’s account, saying she was a victim first, but then lowered herself to the level of her attacker when she took the life of her child.
“In a completely vulnerable state she needs an advocate.”
Right, not somebody who tells her that having a baby will make everything better. Not someone who would let a legislator try to redefine rape for political gain and codify the new definition in law.
“Rape RARELY produces children.”
Really? What about Yugoslavia, the Congo? Systematic rape is a war crime intended to dehumanize the enemy, and children are very often the result. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2000/apr/16/balkans
Anyway, statistics don’t matter. The law is supposed to protect people in every possible situation.
Right, Megan.
Not you. Not someone who would tell her taking her smart pill will solve everything.
Not me.
She needs
An impartial rape advocate who gets a call in the middle of the night to go to the hospital and meet a rape victim who needs her support during the gathering of evidence and helps her answer questions and explains everything to her.
Let’s stay in the United States shall we? You are always traveling to far off lands, my dear.
Megan wrote, in reply to Carla:
I’m sorry, but you’re fighting a losing battle to claim that an embryo should have the right to life.
I sincerely hope you’re wrong, even for your sake, Megan. Because if you’re right, then you and I are fighting a losing battle to claim that ANYONE should have the right to life. If you don’t think that the right to life is inalienable (i.e. not simply granted by the state), even in the early stages which don’t recommend themselves to your emotions and personal tastes, then: what the state gives, the state can take away. Ask the blacks in the era of Dred Scott v. Sanford. Ask my mother’s (Jewish) relatives under the Nazis.
If the government presumes to say that a particular class of people do not have the intrinsic, inalienable right to life (regardless of their actions and choices), then none of us are safe. Your life will hang by the thread of the next one(s) to enter the halls of Congress, or the judiciary, or the Oval Office. Our government isn’t, and cannot ever be, infallible, nor is it incorruptible.
As a pro-life rape survivor, I am appalled at the weird and stupid qualifications of “rape” by the Republicans.
Mary Lee, I’m sorry for what happened to you.
My understanding is that they were trying to exclude taxpayer funding for abortions resulting from consensual sex between minors, which is apparently considered to be statutory rape in some jurisdictions. It was stupidly worded and the Repubs were foolish not to anticipate that the proaborts would spin it this way.
Good heavens, Megan, will you stop at nothing? Yes, most pregnancies are not the result of a rape. Most rapes DO NOT result in pregnancy. 99% of abortions are performed on healthy mothers with healthy babies, for the sake of convenience/out of despair/out of fear. The fact that you and the pro-abort community use this awful argument to excuse the killing of babies for money makes me ill. After I was raped, I couldn’t stop vomiting, crying, showering, panicking, I couldn’t eat and I couldn’t sleep and I wouldn’t let anyone touch me. It took me years and years and years to recover. I think the rape argument is a valid one; but it is rare, and it should not be used as an argument for legal abortion. If I had become pregnant it is possible I WOULD NOT have aborted, though I am sure I would have entertained the option. I don’t know.
The pro-aborts want abortion on demand, for any reason. As horrific as my assault was, I will never, ever believe it is my right to kill my own child. I have mercy on women who were raped. I do NOT believe rape should be used as an excuse to keep abortion legal.