Lunch Break – Kirk Cameron: “Homosexuality is unnatural…”
by LauraLoo
In a world that is becoming more tolerant of homosexuality, CNN’s Piers Morgan interviews born-again Christian Kirk Cameron on the topic of homosexuality. Kirk believes homosexuality is unnatural, detrimental and ultimately destructive to many of the foundations of civilization.
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How would you answer Piers’ question if posed to you: ”What would you do if one of your kids told you they were gay?”
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Mar.07, 2012 12:00 pm |
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The only reason I would care if one of my kids were gay is the way that they will be treated by others. :/
I don’t know how “homosexuality is unnatural” is an argument against it anyway. Even if you disregard the homosexuality in nature, we do plenty of “unnatural” things and no one seems to have an issue with it.
I would keep doing what Im doing now, which is to love them unconditionally.
I think my response would run along the lines of “I wouldn’t be best pleased, but I would love them anyway.”
Keep on loving them, but refuse to allow any partners of theirs in my home. And pray lots.
I would react the same way if they were doing anything clearly contrary to God’s Word. You never stop loving your kids. But I would pray for them. And I would be equally upset if my child were committing homosexual or heterosexual fornication.
What would I do? I would tell that child that it doesn’t change anything. Abortion and homosexuality do not belong in the same macro-category, let alone a sub-category. Good grief. Yeah, I’m with Piers on this one. Tomorrow — new issue — that could change.
Love them of course but both parties must mutually respect the other’s beliefs. I have many gay friends who’ve actively cut their some of their families out of their lives for their ‘intolerance.’ But, most family members do still want to have a relationship, but when young and hot-headed, a gay man might think that it’s just not enough. If he can’t bring the boyfriend to his sister’s wedding for example.
It’s a two way street, but a lot of relationships get damaged by people’s expectations of what others should accept.
I do think it’s unnatural in the biological sense, and there are some people who are not “really” gay, but turn to same sex relationships in reaction to a painful opposite sex encounter or assault. I had a friend in college, I’ve wrote here before, who was sexually assaulted by a man when she was 12. She is still trying to find a lesbian relationship and her unresolved psychological issues have been her undoing in every relationship. She is smart and likeable at first and I’ve seen several friends try to have a relationship with her. Basically, she manipulates and exhausts them. Sometimes, a same sex relationship isn’t going to solve your problems. But of course, just by saying that, some gay people would call me a bigotted hater.
I would continue to try to raise them to be holy. Lord, grant us Saints. Lord, make us SAINTS!
It is sooo refreshing to have someone in Hollywood unabashedly stand up for what is right. Patricia Heaton is another person who comes to mind. As far as the issue of homosexuality, of course it unnatural … how does one even argue this point?
Love them. Remind them that they essentially would not be able to create a biological legacy with their significant other. Love them more. Encourage them to adopt children currently in the system already rather than use donations/surrogates to conceive themselves (even embryo adoption in the case of daughters). Love them. Get ready for the flippin’ sweet Mother’s Day gifts that will come from (what some sources have concluded) is a household income of roughly 50% greater than average. Love them some more.
I would love my child no matter what and make sure he/she knows that. Homosexuality is NOT a sin. And I’d make sure my child knows that too. However, homosexual act IS. I would talk to my child about chastity and about following God’s laws. If it came to my child having a partner, I wouldn’t let them sleep together in my house (same goes for children with heterosexual relationships). And I’d pray LOTS!
Piers said, “bad news, Dad…”
So, it seems that he would not be so happy if his child is homosexual.
I appreciate Kirk’s directness. If only more Christians would take the opportunity to define their beliefs when the microphone is in their face.
I really enjoy watching Kirk Cameron. He is very active out here in Los Angeles and works with Ray Comfort of LIVING WATERS minstries in the Valley. They do amazing work. This past year, for instance they put a video out called 180 the movie. In a very liberal area-Orange County, they talked to young women and men about the abortion holocaust — and converted them live on film! Their arguments are very powerful, and they have a whole page of media materials for sale on their site, including the DVD which one can also view for free on youtube. (I posted it on my website: http://cityofangelsnativemission.com/Television/180movie/A-TELEVISION.htm )
I watched another video where Morgan was interrogating other Christian’s about the same issue-re-defining traditionally held beliefs in a manner that mutates and debases their very nature. In this case it was also marriage he was attacking. They fell for his dialog, but Kirk Cameron threw it back at him with true Christian temperament-demonstrating all the fruits of the spirit. Thanks Mr. Cameron.
I don’t want my kids thinking it’s ok, to participate in sodomy either! I certainly don’t think it’s nice for any one to tell some one that that is a good natured thing to do. Just the way I would not want any one asking me to consider abortion or birth control. It’s not only tacky, but we have to remember, a sin is a sin, because it is hurtful to other human beings, and therefore unethical. I would not tell some one they should commit suicide either. These are uncaring and harmful actions and separate us from God and from our neighbor.
homosexuality is an abomination but i do have gay and lesbian friends. i pray for them but i do not preach to them. a good former friend of mine is HIV+. they like me just the same.
i agree with kirk. im glad he wasnt afraid to speak out.
“ But, most family members do still want to have a relationship, but when young and hot-headed, a gay man might think that it’s just not enough. If he can’t bring the boyfriend to his sister’s wedding for example. ”
Would you be cool with leaving your husband out of family functions, because no matter how nice of a guy he is, your family didn’t approve of you being together?
If a child of mine came to me and told me he or she were gay, I would listen….. and I would keep posing questions and I would listen….. and listen and listen……… We live in a world where no one listens. When parents listen, children come up with solutions that are right for them and right for God.
i dont like to get into the gay lesbian debate too much. i treat all people the same. BUT i will say this…when gays and lesbians go public with the no gay or lesbian bullying stuff they should just include EVERYONE in that! i went to high school with a guy people suspected was gay and he killed himself. there was also a guy who walked with a limp and a few jerks kicked him down a flight of steps. he blew his brains out that same night!
as far as gay marriage ive asked a few of the gay and lesbian folks i know if they ever would. they all said “nope.” one guy asked “why get married? no way.”
“Hate the sin, but love the sinner”.
BTW…Kirk Cameron didn’t come up with that homosexuality is unnatural…GOD did.
Take it up with HIM.
There are two different issues here, ie, 1. how do you treat individuals and 2. how should the culture define marriage.
To say that marriage is anything other than one man and one woman just seems like a lie to me, regardless of what anyone’s religion teaches or doesn’t teach on the issue. No culture in history that I’m aware of has ever recognized same sex marriage. Certainly no one has convinced me that as a culture we have an interest in doing so, whether it’s to acknowledge same sex or plural marriage. Same sex marriage seems to me to be based a bit on the fiction that men and women are interchangable.
Having said all that, imo people who have an animosity towards homosexuals *as individuals* – and I hate to say it, but I have seen that attitude at times among other conservatives and religious people, esp guys - is to me a profoundly unattractive quality. Guys who use words like, “homo,” etc…yuck.
i agree Pamela. i have a straight married older friend who is having an affair with a much younger married man. thats NOT okay. it goes against Gods law. sins have dangerous consequences. i dont preach to her either but ive told her shes wrong. theyve been seeing each other for a year or more now. its the same with homosexuals. its wrong. i doubt most people here would say “well as long as they are both happy we should just wish them well.”
Ditto to Sydney, Ninek, and especially Vita.
And I think Kirk spoke quite well. If Piers were to blast, “but seven states have legalized same sex marriage” to me, I’d be happy shooting back with, “and none of those were through the direct vote of the people, whereas over thirty states have upheld marriage”. Marriage supporters are hardly in the minority in this country, or else same sex marriage supporters would be happy with the popular vote.
I agree with about everybody. I wonder if homosexuality would be even less prevalent than 2-3% if parents discussed their beliefs throughout childhood instead of leaving them to learn and experiment on their own.
Piers was even more stunned by Kirk’s gentle, firm beliefs about a grandchild that resulted from rape.
That would make for a good sequel, Laura Loo. :)
Kirk’s response was clearly the more charitable and probably more productive one. But asked that same question, if it was me in the interview, what I would like to say is “well, Piers, what if your son told you one day ‘bad news, Dad – I am Catholic, I have registered as a Republican, I am starting a local 40 Days campaign, I now understand the sin of an active homosexual lifestyle, and yes, I believe contraception is sinful – oh yeah, and Obama is a baby-killing liar who is apparently indwelt by Satan himself’ ? What would you say to him, Piers?” Of course, even if I could think fast enough to form that question right that moment, it would probably be edited out anyway. Now you know why I will never have a future in politics.
Since the discussion on homosexuality has a lot of angles to it, (I will only note one) let me just say as a healthcare worker I can tell you ANY behavior that increases your likelihood many times over of contracting HIV, HPV, Hepatitis B and C, and multitudes of other diseases, cancers, etc. like engaging in MSM and means that a person is an automatic deferral for “ever” donating blood (it doesn’t matter how long it has been, whether you use condoms or whether you are now in a long-term relationship) that behavior is neither “healthy” nor “natural”. If someone wants the links to the U.S government articles from the FDA for blood donations and the CDC for disease risks just ask me and I will provide them. Anyone who has worked in an AIDS hospice unit, I know some healthcare workers who have, they can tell you how “healthy” and “natural” it is. (NOT)! No hatred, no bigotry, no homophobia just the facts. God loves everyone including homosexuals and lesbians (btw there are increased health risks for them as well) I would love my child regardless but there would be is no encouragement or embracing of the behaviors because they are deadly.
Great post heather. Interviews held with gay activists who are really honest about this will say “We don’t really want marriage, we don’t really want to have only 1 sexual partner, we just want to make sure we change the culture so if it takes redefining marriage to do that we will fight for marriage”.
oh man it figures…now kirk camerons comment is considered a hate speech! roflol. a different pov isnt even respected? oh some people need to just shut up and quit complaining. im so sick of this.
Love Kirk Cameron, but am a little disappointed that he didn’t answer Pier’s question as to whether homosexuality is a sin. As a professed Christian, he should say it is a sin. Saying it is only unnatural isn’t enough. Ditto to all the other comments about love, love, love your child even if he or she is homosexual. I would not condone my child living with someone out of wedlock or having pre-marital sex, either. All we can do is love and pray for them.
Oh, sorry, Vita’s comment is what I meant to agree with. The behavior is sinful, as Christianity states, but having or struggling with same sex attraction is not sinful.
I am sure that because some gay people do not wish to be monogamous or married it means that none of them do. Just like when straight people want to sleep around or get married, it means that no straight people want to marry or have one partner. Sigh.
No one has taken me up on my offer for the gov’t links to FDA policy on blood donations for MSM yet.
“The Homosexual Agenda” by Alan Sears and Craig Osteen excellent documentation directly from the words and writings of homosexual activist who push the so-called “The Gay Rights Movement” on why marriage had to be redefined as a “civil rights issue”, why those who are opposed must be labeled as “homophobic bigots” and why traditional marriage and “the Church” who supports it must be destroyed.
There is no such thing as “same sex marriage”,
it is anatomically (male - female genitalia are complementary),
biologically (male reproductice system vs female reproducitve system- does plumbing come to mind),
physiologically (does function come to mind, uterine orgasmic contractions w/ lubrication meeting the penile erection-ejaculation response of seminal fluid)
hormonally (estrogen, oxytocin release- testosterone, vasopressin release)
and immunologically (change from auto-immune hostile female response to being a recipeint of the male deposit
not to mention the emotional, psychological, and spiritual bonding that takes place (mind blowing) and the beautiful, awesome gift of a newborn life you might get to be a part of creating.
Got to go, no time right now. The PCers will argue and grind their teeth, but “the truth will set you free. I love being Pro-Life.
Knowing Kirk’s background and his close ties with Living Water Ministries and his extensive experience with evangelism, I’m surprise he stumbled on his answer.
I would have expected him to say confidently, “What if my child told me he was gay? To me, that is like asking, ‘What if my child told me he was a liar?’ God directly tells us that we shouldn’t lie and God directly tells us we should practice homosexuality.”
I would have expected to continue and say, “I would encourage my son to obey God first and foremost. And where he is struggling with obeying God, whether it is lying or stealing or homosexuality, he should repent and confess his sins to others and seek their help and God’s help in turning away from those sins.”
I have heard Ray Comfort answer as much to a gay man before…so I would have expected better from Kirk. That being said, I think there is a lot of pressure when you are on camera and so I understand that you aren’t always prepared for every question that a host is going to blindside you with….nonetheless I know that Kirk is comfortable on camera and interviews and I know he has had this question in some form or another put to him.
Not trying to be hard on Kirk, but I was truly surprised that this question seemed to challenge him.
What is the saddest thing about the homosexualtity issue is the lack of research directed toward the cause. All we know is that it is not genetic. Unlike the abortion issue where we know that life, like the scriptures attest, begins at conception. I personally believe that there are psycho-social factors that condition a person to reject the opposite sex. It presents itself as the ultimate form of sexism in the end and the drive to perpetuate itself as a normal lifestyle has permeated the culture. It is condemned by most of the great religions of the world likely because it defies natural law. The greatest concern I have is that a person can either self label or be labeled by others at even a preadolescent age. This is a crime because we know that many people are not fully developed physically or mentally until up to age 30. Full brain development in some cases does not occur until age 30. Why did God have his Son begin his ministry at age 30? We have been so lead astray on this issue that it truly pathetic.