Pro-life vid of day: Iconic 1987 pro-life exposé by NARAL founder
by LauraLoo
Rerunning from a few years ago, Eclipse of Reason, produced in 1987 by the late Dr. Bernard Nathanson (pictured right), is a gruesome video that features a preborn baby boy being killed via dilation and evacuation (D&E). His dismembered body parts are pulled out of his mother (warning: blood and female nudity), and are laid out for viewing to ensure nothing is left behind.
Every time I watch this video, I cry my heart out for this poor little boy.
D&E procedures are not as popular as they used to be. Our own Jill Stanek has commented that the preferred method of late-term abortion nowadays is the induced labor abortion procedure, a two or three day process that involves dilating the cervix to deliver the preterm baby. The baby is either killed beforehand by lethal injection or anticipated to die during or shortly after birth.
WARNING: Nudity, graphic content.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nff8I2FVnI[/youtube]
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Defend it proaborts.
Defend what you support.
THIS is what you are here everyday supporting and encouraging and cheering for.
OWN IT!!
God help us.
Help us turn from our wicked ways and seek Your face and hear Your voice. Forgive us for brutally killing the little ones made in Your image. Forgive us for the years and years of blood shed and our silence. Move us to stand against the evil of our age. The slaying of the innocent. 3500 will die today. 3500 mothers will be wounded today. We ask that you end it. And we plead the blood of the Lamb over us as we continue to stand against child sacrifice. Satan is defeated. We know his days are numbered. Give us the strength to keep going, keep standing, to keep praying and witnessing and offering help and hope to your sons and daughters. Open eyes to see the truth. TODAY! You have promised to heal our land and we ask for that in Your precious name. Come quickly Lord Jesus. Amen.
Thank God Dr, Nathanson came to repentance and forgiveness. He worked tirelessly to help the Pro-Life cause after his conversion of heart.
Anyone can come to the Lord with repentance and receive mercy. Thank God. He is patient and kind and full of mercy.
::crickets::
Carla, it’s so telling that when we (or even neutral sources) actually show what an abortion is, just a plain old video footage of an actual abortion procedure, the pro aborts won’t say anything. There is no feedback, no snarky comments, no room for euphemisms.
Because actually seeing an abortion is raw and horrible and strips away the cushion of the euphemisms. Here is your choice; here is your autonomy; here is your empowerment.
Look at it and own it.
It’s just so heartbreaking.
It’s an abortion. That’s how they’re done. We all know it. Women continue to choose it. Early term chemical abortions will reduce the rate of the procedure we see. Better contraception and it’s usage as well as better sex-ed in general will help too.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/04/09/3424564/cdc-formal-sex-ed/
::eagles::
If this film could be shown in a high-school sex-ed class, there would be better sex-ed.
Better sex ed? What has the last 20 years of ‘safe sex’ gotten us? A generation that is faced with over 30 different std’s to choose from, that condoms will not stop. Skin to skin contact….get it? Unless you are going to put rubber on the outside of the vagina, std’s will continue to be a ‘world health concern’ by the CDC. Sex ed is not going to cut it. We’ve tried that for years and years now… thank you planned parenthood for the epic fail. Let’s try abstinence until marriage and how bout some rock solid truth about birth control? It fails. And we fail if abortion is the best we have to offer women. Sickening, sad and we should be ashamed….that baby could be us! If our mothers had believed the horse manure that those who push evil call ‘ choice’ and helping women, folks we would also be dead.
In a way Del I agree with you. Show this film and then say “to reduce the chances of this being one of the choices facing you” – then lead into comprehensive sex-ed.
Condoms still provide better protection than nothing. Abstinence into marriage is not a viable proposition. Abortion is a necessity to some women, it doesn’t qualify as ‘best’, ‘worst’ or anything. No one is pushing evil. Your comment is indicative of what the CDC identify as part of the problem Jana.
Your faith in contraception and the teenagers using it is unreal.
I’m still confused as to whether abortion is supposed to be a free choice that autonomous women make in order to improve their own lives, or a vital necessity that women are incapable of living without.
Your faith in no contraception and teenagers being abstinent instead is vastly more so.
You didn’t look at the CDC report saying many teens are sexually active before they are provided with adequate sex-ed either did you.
Well it is a free choice made by autonomous women Navi. It’s probably more about preventing a situation which would then require improvement. Although sometimes a situation may have already arisen which an abortion then improves – alleviates. All of which rather makes it a vital necessity.
Reality, I was a teenager who was abstinent. It can and does happen. Stop acting like kids are going to have sex no matter what, actually teach them to respect themselves and others and don’t let them run around town without parental supervision and you won’t need contraception.
Oh and btw, I used contraception and got pregnant. My boy is now 7. So much for your theories.
Most women presenting for abortions were using some form of contraception the month they got pregnant.
This is what abortion is. This is how they are done. Reality shrugs his shoulders. The fact that you can watch a baby’s body being torn into bits and not even care…wow. Just wow. Do you even have a conscience Reality? Empathy for the suffering of a living human baby? Or do you need to hold onto that lie that abortion is good no matter what–so you can continue to ejaculate into women and have that “get out of jail free” card should you successfully impregnate them? Thats what abortion means for most men…they get off the hook. So they’ll blather on about women’s rights while ignoring the rights of preborn women. They’ll silence their conscience when they consider what abortion actually does to children. Because they just need to keep using women sexually and abortion is the only way they can continue to do that.
Well it is a free choice made by autonomous women Navi. It’s probably more about preventing a situation which would then require improvement. Although sometimes a situation may have already arisen which an abortion then improves – alleviates. All of which rather makes it a vital necessity.
Ahh, ok. I see. But it’s not as though women are going to have abortions no matter what, since they’re incapable of doing otherwise. Because that would be a pretty degrading and misogynistic view to hold.
Hello Sydney M.! Yes, some people do choose and adhere to abstinence. Good for them. Not very many though.
Yes, kids are going to have sex no matter what, actually teach them to respect and protect themselves and others.
don’t let them run around town without parental supervision and you won’t need contraception. – you think that’ll stop them? Wow.
The failure of contraception in your case, and in others, does not render contraception useless or pointless. There are still less pregnancies with its use than without it. The theory holds.
Why does the word fetus exist? My conscience leads me to place greater value on living, existent women than a potential person. If by ‘living human baby’ you mean fetus, what suffering? I don’t adhere exclusively to any ‘theory’ that abortion is good no matter what, stop exaggerating. I was always happy to be very responsible when it came to contraception, I had a vasectomy at a relatively young age and my girlfirend is post-menopausal, nor have I ever had the approach to women and sexual activity that you portray.
Thats what abortion means for most men…they get off the hook. – do you have valid quantitative, or even qualitative, evidence?
So they’ll blather on about women’s rights while ignoring the rights of preborn women. – there are no pre-born ‘women’. Male fetuses are aborted too you know.
They’ll silence their conscience when they consider what abortion actually does to children. – any evidence for this?
Because they just need to keep using women sexually and abortion is the only way they can continue to do that. – this, and your three points above, are simply anti-choice slogans.
But it’s not as though women are going to have abortions no matter what, since they’re incapable of doing otherwise. – I would hope not. Each woman assesses her own situation. Abortion is sometimes the least worst choice.
Because that would be a pretty degrading and misogynistic view to hold. – indeed. Is that why some anti-choicers try to claim that is the pro-choice mindset, as a defensive thing?
Is that why some anti-choicers try to claim that is the pro-choice mindset, as a defensive thing?
Not really. Everyone is different, and not everyone who is pro-choice thinks the same way.
There is a subset of self-identified pro-choicers, who state that pro-lifers are wrong to oppose abortion because women are always going to “need” and have them no matter what. That strongly suggests women are somehow incapable of not having abortions.
That strongly suggests women are somehow incapable of not having abortions. – not if the woman concerned is the one who decides she ‘needs’ one. Pro-choicers are only saying that abortion should be available for if she decides such. It’s only when others attempt to decide what’s best for women that a problem arises. History and contemporary examples show us they will always ‘have them’, no matter what – at their discretion.
LOL Reality.
You didn’t watch it. You didn’t own it. You still come here to crow and encourage and troll and redirect. And pretend to CARE ABOUT WOMEN. What a joke.
You didn’t watch the death of that child. You didn’t see the blood or the body parts. You must have some Eclipse of Reason going on in that brain of yours.
You lie by omission in that cowardly way that you have. You pretend you know all there is to know and yet continually support death. You foolishly think we don’t know the truth. I pity you. I do. One day you will have to face the truth. What a horrible day that will be for those who are lovers of death.
The Celebration of Abortion ship that you sail is sinking. And you know it.
And I have always suspected someone pays you to come here. That you are some Amanda Marcotte in your own brain. You think you are funny and witty and brilliant . You are not who or what you say you are.
Be on your way.
1. Abortions are voluntarily chosen by autonomous women only when it’s the “least worst choice” available.
2. Abortions are inevitable, and women are going to have them no matter what.
One of those statements has to be false. You can’t have it both ways.
“potential person” Reality? WATCH THE VIDEO!!!! Watch it. You tell me that I can see with my own two eyes, an ACTUAL living HUMAN baby with ears, eyes, nose, mouth…little clenched fists, little tootsies and even a PENIS! And you use such idiotic terms such as “potential person”. Yes, the woman exists. SO DOES THE BABY.
Yes, I am shouting because good grief man, the truth is slapping you in the face and you’re still like “Not-ah!” How stupid can pro-aborts be? WILLFULLY stupid. Because the truth is right there. But you choose to be blind.
That is a real, living human baby. ALL humans are PEOPLE, not “potential” people. Real people. White, black, gay, straight, young, old, male, female…all humans are people. You were a person from the moment you were conceived. You’re a person now even though you think like a monster. Everybody on this planet was a person from the moment they existed. They were never anything but people. And they didn’t start existing while slithering out of the birth canal. They existed the moment their father’s sperm united with their mother’s egg.
Watch the video Reality. Watch it and own it.
You see, folks … Reality doesn’t believe we have (are!) souls. Therefore, he cannot act like he has one.
He believes we are bodies, limited only to our biology. As such, he believes one discrete biological entity can eliminate another lesser biological entity if it enhances their meaningless and temporary existence.
It isn’t altogether inconsistent – just incredibly incorrect and pitifully sad.
My my, aren’t you the epitome of class and charm.
You didn’t watch it. – I did. I have also seen similar things previously, both moving and still images.
You didn’t own it. – I refer you to my April 14, 6:29pm comment.
You still come here to crow and encourage and troll and redirect. – I do not crow. I do not encourage. You accuse me of trolling?!? Redirect? I responded directly before mentioning other things.
And pretend to CARE ABOUT WOMEN. What a joke. – there is no pretense. The fact that I am pro-choice, the fact that I defend womens rights and freedoms in all capacities, demonstrates that I am the one who does care about women. I’m the one who places greater value on women and their rights and freedoms than gestating fetuses. Anti-choice claims to be all about the women is the joke.
You didn’t watch the death of that child. – I watched the death of a fetus.
You didn’t see the blood or the body parts. – oh yes I did.
You must have some Eclipse of Reason going on in that brain of yours. – I appear to be the one who does recognise, acknowledge and accept reason.
You lie by omission in that cowardly way that you have. – I do not lie. Justify your accusation of cowardice, if you can.
You pretend you know all there is to know – that is not a factual statement. What I know is reality, the real world, what women have wanted and strained to achieve for generations. Freedom from those who seek to control and subjugate them.
and yet continually support death. – that is not a factual statement either.
You foolishly think we don’t know the truth. – you foolishly think you do. Or maybe you do but just won’t admit it.
I pity you. I do. – you have the choice to do as you please but I don’t need your pity.
One day you will have to face the truth. – I face the truth of the world and my place in it every day, I don’t use a safety blanket.
What a horrible day that will be for those who are lovers of death. – I don’t know any lovers of death.
The Celebration of Abortion ship that you sail is sinking. And you know it. – there is no ‘Celebration of Abortion’, there is simply the vessel known as abortion. And despite your desires, that is one ship that will never sink, and you know it.
And I have always suspected someone pays you to come here. – I wish! How about you?
That you are some Amanda Marcotte in your own brain. – no, I am one person, acting on my own volition, who continuously assesses my position on abortion and find it continuously reinforced.
You think you are funny and witty and brilliant – I do try a little levity now and then, the rest is for others to make up their own minds about. Because that’s what I do, I happily leave others to make up their own minds.
You are not who or what you say you are. – I am exactly who and what I say I am. You don’t have to like it, that’s your choice. Are you who and what you claim?
Be on your way. – your emotive, inaccurate, personal attacks do not lend credence to your case.
One of those statements has to be false. – why? The fact that women have demanded access to abortion for centuries if not longer indicates that it’s pretty much inevitable that they will occur. But we could always adjust your second point to “Abortions aren’t inevitable, but apparently women are going to have them no matter what.”
“potential person” Reality? WATCH THE VIDEO!!!! Watch it. You tell me that I can see with my own two eyes, an ACTUAL living HUMAN fetus with ears, eyes, nose, mouth…little clenched fists, little tootsies and even a PENIS! And you use such idiotic terms such as “potential person”. Yes, the woman exists. SO DOES THE FETUS. – it does not think or emote. It is not a person.
Yes, I am shouting because good grief man, the truth is slapping you in the face and you’re still like “Not-ah!” How stupid can pro-aborts be? WILLFULLY stupid. Because the truth is right there. But you choose to be blind. – yes, the truth. A gestating human fetus has been terminated.
That is a real, living human fetus. – yes. And women are real, living people.
ALL humans are PEOPLE, not “potential” people. Real people. – not correct.
White, black, gay, straight, young, old, male, female…all humans are people. – yes, once they are born. Perhaps you could tell some certain politicians that, and some others.
You were a person from the moment you were conceived. – that is not correct.
You’re a person now even though you think like a monster. – I am, as are you.
Everybody on this planet was a person from the moment they existed. – as a person.
They were never anything but people. And they didn’t start existing while slithering out of the birth canal. They existed the moment their father’s sperm united with their mother’s egg. – conception and gestation =/= personhood.
Watch the video Reality. Watch it and own it. – I have watched it. I think someone else probably has the copyright.
Reality doesn’t believe we have (are!) souls. – correct, What we have are experiences, learnings, feelings, emotions and thought. I don’t consider that ‘limited’.
“Anti-choice claims to be all about the women is the joke.”
I’ve never heard a pro-lifer claim to be all about the women. We usually claim to be equally pro-woman and pro-children. I believe that women and unborn children have the same basic rights, the part where we clash is that I believe that the right not to be killed is more important than bodily autonomy, so naturally women’s right not to be pregnant is less important to me than the baby’s right to be alive. You see this as us disliking women or not caring about their rights, but that doesn’t make it true.
I mean, yeah it sucks that an unplanned pregnancy can mess with a woman’s plans for her life, but that doesn’t justify the child’s death. And it never will.
Very clear and concise LDPL, thank you.
Obviously I consider womens rights and needs more important than gestating fetuses. Some people give me the impression they exalt the fetus while a woman’s life lies in ruins in the background. Then they claim that pro-choicers don’t care about women.
I don’t “exalt” the fetus or ignore the woman and her needs and wants (to an extent, I don’t think abortion should be allowed but I’m totally pro-helping the mom however she needs to be helped), but I do admit my experiences have made me a lot more concerned about children than adults. But when we’re talking legal matters, adults and children should have the same civil rights (except when age limits are appropriate like voting), and the right to not be killed is the most important one. You can’t have any rights at all if you’re dead. And children deserve to be protected from those who don’t think their lives are important.
‘to an extent’ – there’s our differentiation.
I do understand that you bring experiences to your stance Jack. Don’t we all.
‘except when age limits are appropriate’ – age limits? Why age limits? Are you saying there are grounds for differentiation? Me too :-)
Reality, with the age limits he’s talking about (I assume) things like voting, or how you are prosecuted for crimes (thank God we’re not sending kids to adult prison!).
And yeah it’s sad that pro-aborts think that we are so anti-woman. I mean, some prolifers come across that way, but if you really sat them down, most of them aren’t.
The majority of us are not. I have nothing but compassion for women who find themselves pregnant and feel desperate. I’m all for getting them help asap.
But babies of all people are deserving and desperately needing protection, especially when their own mothers won’t protect them. THey cannot fend for themselves. So when their own mothers want them dead, then yes it is our job to intervene and try to save thelife of baby. It’s not against the woman. If the woman needs help, get her help. But if she’s just being flippant and randomly decided she doesn’t want a baby, that’s too bad and she needs to give the baby life so that child has a chance.
It makes me sick when adults refuse to protect kids – even sicker when they intentionally hurt kids. :( I stopped commenting on that 4th trimester abortion thread cause it just made me way too sick.
You never disappoint Reality. Never.
Hi LibertyBelle. While the usual suspects may chime in to claim otherwise in their histrionic manner, the fact is that pro-choicers are as saddened about the case of the lady who killed her newborns as anti-choicers are. From your 7:59am comment I conclude that many of us aren’t oceans away from each other on the matter of life overall. What makes us different is the narrow line as I expressed it to Jack in my 1:23am comment.
You never disappoint Reality. Never – what an odd thing to say.