Pro-life vid of the day: Reid dismisses funding child cancer treatment
by Hans Johnson
The Affordable Care Act has been controversial because of fears the federal government cannot control one sixth of the economy without compromising quality care for the sake of cost efficiency. An answer to a question by CNN reporter Dana Bash to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) yesterday will do nothing to ease those qualms.
Republicans in Congress have proposed a series of bills to continue funding all other government services while delaying the implementation of Obamacare for one year and overturning the exemption given to congressional members and staff to enroll in Obamacare.
With reports that young cancer patients were being denied National Institutes of Health clinical trials because of the government shutdown, Reid was asked: “If you can help one child who has cancer, why wouldn’t you do it?”
Befuddled by the question, he replied: “Why would we want to do that?” He then compared their plight to that of furloughed air base employees in his state, saying “They have problems, too.”
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Later in the day Senator Reid was indignant at accusations of insensitivity and wondered why we would want the House of Representatives to “cherry pick what stays open and what should be closed?”
And yet hasn’t there already been “cherry picking” for the many exemptions to the ACA, as well as for determining who are “essential personnel” and who are not?
Harry Reid is blaming the exposure of his hugely insensitive remark on… you guessed it… Republicans.
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Bush made him not think before speaking. Man, can you imagine if some nobody GOP state representative from Alaska said this? MSNBC would be in melt-down mode and the New York Times would declare a GOP-led war on the cancer-stricken. President Obama would phone a cancer victim to apologize for the hateful, insensitive remark and declare such discourse has no place in our new politics. Our mainstream media is so unbelievably full of phonies.
Calling it insensitive is not the right focus. This articulation is an expose of Reid’s TRUE convictions regarding the “healthcare” of America’s children. O-Care anyone?
What’s more it takes away the “democrat” label from him. Fellow dems (and Ex-GOP) must be so proud.
The Republicans with the ACA remind me of my daughter when she doesn’t want to take a bath. Hiding under the bed, kicking and screaming, trying to fight something that’s inevitable. The ACA was passed by all branches of government, it’s survived what like fifty votes to kill it. And then the Republicans pull childish “well we’re just gonna not do our jobs until you delay this.” Honestly, I expect my representatives to have more maturity than my two-year-old.
But Harry Reid’s being an idiot as always.
Chris says:
October 3, 2013 at 12:34 pm
Our mainstream media is so unbelievably full of phonies.
This was broadcast by CNN.
Let’s take a moment and give thanks that this is a CNN report who was appalled at Reid’s lack of concern for vulnerable children and life-saving healthcare .
The Democrats will win this, because they (well, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi) are heartless elitists who will hold us hostage until they get what they want.
Meanwhile, our Republicans (well, Boehner) genuinely care about the welfare of Americans. They started this fight to save us from the worst parts of ObamaCare, and they will lose because they can’t stand to see Americans suffer the economic consequences.
My point Jack was that Reid represents the democrats’ true view of how the “ACA” is to be applied. You are in for a ride as dems destroy Americans access to healthcare. BTW, where is the Pres? I thought that by now he would have publicly denounced Reid. Oops I forgot – its not politically expedient for him to do so. Neither one of them gives a care about children with cancer.
Yeah, and the Republicans DEFINITELY don’t care about sick kids, seeing as how they’re willing to shutdown the government and cause this whole problem because they don’t like a law, which I repeat, has been upheld time and time again by all branches of government.
Is this really how we want the political process to be from now on? That whenever someone doesn’t like a law that was upheld by every branch of government they get to hold the country hostage until they get their way? It’s disgusting.
Jack,
The Republicans have pretty much abondoned trying to overturn Obamacare for now. They’re actually engaging in politics – you know, COMPROMISE – something Obama, the perpetual campaigner, and Reid are incapable of doing.
The proposal right now is a one-year delay and actually following what the law said at first, such as not exempting Congress and its staff from this wonderful plan.
And a temporary government shutdown is not a new “sky is falling” situation. It’s usually been done by Democrats protesting awful “draconian” Republican budgets (read: a slow down in increased spending).
You would think it only happened before because of mean old Newt Gingrich in the ’90s. But actually its the 17th time. I remembered the time the Democratic congress did it during Reagan’s presidency.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/09/23/225462813/8-things-to-know-about-a-government-shutdown
They took a principled stance Jack as so many dems have done when a Republican was in the oval office. Posterity will remember this in favor of the Republicans. Thanks to Reid for driving this home for the American people.
By the way Dana Bash, who Reid belittled for an “irresponsible” question, is no conservative.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2011/06/15/cnn-correspondent-joins-board-trustees-pro-choice-organization
The Dems have compromised a lot, the ACA that was actually passed is bare minimum what they wanted. Am I the only one who remembers the arguing a few years ago?
The way that the Republicans “compromise” is screwing over the people who actually really needed healthcare insurance, like refusing to expand Medicaid in red states and putting nearly a million people on unpaid furlough because they insist on getting their way, all while wasting all kinds of time and resources voting against it again and again and again. I don’t remember any of those past shut downs, most of them seemed to have happened before I was born, this just seems ridiculous to me.
In Australia, one of my online buddies tells me if their congress/parliament/whatever refuses to come to an agreement by the budget deadline they automatically lose their jobs and new elections are held. Sounds better than what we have here.
And you guys are ridiculous sometimes “The Republicans are the true defenders of access to healthcare!” When they literally go out of their way to make sure it’s difficult to get. It doesn’t really affect me, since I don’t get health insurance either way whether ACA goes into effect or not, but Republicans certainly would like to do away with the Medicaid expansion and federal subsidies for low income people. That would leave even more people without insurance, and their solution? “Buy across state lines” and crap like that. How in the world does that fix anything? At least the Democrats are attempting to get control of our ridiculous healthcare system and reduce the amount that we spend vs outcomes, and hold insurance companies accountable for their shady stuff. It’s not perfect, and I’d much rather see universal healthcare than Obamacare, but something has to be done and Republicans have consistently refused to look at the situation pragmatically.
Yes Del, but you know as well as I do CNN would have treated such a comment proportionally different based on the party identification of the speaker.
I am so g-durn sick of watching our media and our Dem reps persist in the Alinsky-ized demonization of the Republicans. I’m NOT even Republican, and I’m sick sick sick of it. Some people, even here, have swallowed the media characterization of the GOP hook line and stinker. And mind you, I repeat, I’m not even a Republican and don’t consider them much better than the Dems. I used to be a Democrat, but I’m ashamed of them. Deeply. Most of our politicians and members of the media are an veritable embarrassment to democracy, freedom, and the whole human race. I don’t expect a lot of likes or agreements, but there. Vented. Done.
Jack,
Exactly how have the Democrats compromised?
They didn’t even know what was in the bill when they passed it, if Nancy Pelosi is to be believed.
From what I’ve read Boehner has the numbers amongst the dems and the gop to pass a clean bill but knows that if he does there are enough gop numbers to sack him. So 800,000 are out of work because Boehner doesn’t want to be.
Obamacare was passed, beat a court challenge and won a presidential election. It has begun operating.
Reality,
Please address my question. How have the Democrats compromised?
Mary,
I think we can consider Obama a full-time comedian now.
He promised extensive C-SPAN discussions leading up to the ACA, and was shamed into one. He was so miffed at Paul Ryan for daring to disagree that he invited him to a press conference and practically insulted him to his face. He schmoozes with special interests a hundred times more often than he invites opposition leaders to work things out.
He never stops campaigning long enough to actually govern, even lambasting the GOP while the Navy Yard was being shot up.
Behold “Shecky” Obama:
http://therightscoop.com/obama-tells-cnbc-hes-purposefully-kept-his-anti-gop-rhetoric-down-while-hes-been-president/
Reality,
Please address my question. How have the Democrats compromised? – why are you asking me?
So what are the bad things he’s done Hans?
Put his heavy boot on a struggling economy so it can’t get back up, for one. Never have we had such a lukewarm, moribund five-year stretch. A little Laodicean joke, there.
The economy is in a far better state than it would be under a gop president. Pity the house hasn’t been more cooperative or it would be even better.
What did they compromise on? Well most of the reason they chose to even keep the free market involved at all, by individually mandating rather than going for a single payer, Medicare for everyone system, was because the individual mandate was originally a conservative idea from the Heritage institute of all places, that had gotten bipartisan support in the past. The Dems wanted the majority of Republicans on board with the ACA, so they didn’t even try for a full Medicare for everyone (which I’m sure many of them would prefer). There was some talk of a public option I remember, that was dropped when Republicans whined.
It was the Republicans, even those who have supported suggested reform bills with individual mandates in the past, who decided there is no such thing as compromise and decided to stake their reputations on making this bill fail. It was the Republicans who refuse to expand Medicaid in their states and deliberately are trying to make the ACA fail. This is not an issue of Democrats not compromising, at all. This is an issue of Republicans becoming so extremist that they are arguing and screaming and crying about CONSERVATIVE reform that they came up with in the first place, and supported in the past.
Reality,
Since you’re blaming the Republicans for this, I’d like to know what the Democrats have compromised on. Fair is fair.
*Law, not bill. It hasn’t been a bill for years. And that’s another thing. I’ve been reading up on prior government shutdowns and they were nothing like this one. They usually involved opposition to unilateral decisions by the executive branch or other disputes in the house over funding. We’ve never had a shutdown caused by people defying a law that has found to be constitutional and been approved by all three branches of government, and has survived numerous and constant assaults by some party in the House that lost the popular vote. This is just obstructionism. It’s not politics, it’s not compromise.
Jack,
I think you’re missing my point. We now have a shutdown going on. How have the Democrats negotiated and compromised with the Republicans?
I’m not missing your point. I know what you’re trying to say. But you’re just wrong. The House is simply defying a law that has been passed, vetted by SCOTUS and been through numerous votes to get rid of it. There isn’t a precedent for their behavior, and it’s not acceptable. The Dems don’t HAVE to compromise because they already went through the proper process to get the bill turned into law. The House Republicans are just being obstructionist. That’s really all there is to it.
The whole thing was Republicans idea anyway, they just got way too extreme in the twenty years or so when the individual mandate was first proposed.
Jack.
This law was passed by bribes and lies. Even Nancy Pelosi admits it had to be passed before anyone knew what was in it. Polls consistently show Americans oppose it.
Now if Democrats can impose a law they don’t even know the full content of on the American people, then certainly the people, through their elected representatives, can fight this law when they determine they don’t like it. Wouldn’t you agree?
The economy is in a far better state than it would be under a gop president Hans. Pity the house hasn’t been more cooperative or it would be even better.
As Jack says, compromise is not warranted. They are demanding changes to something which has already happened. If they want changes made this is not the way it is done.
Jack,
First the repubs wanted to defund, then delay, then eliminate exemptions. They’re willing to compromise. Please tell me how the Democrats have done the same. The President refuses to negotiate. There have been 17 previous shutdowns and 5 presidents who were willing to negotiate.
An extremist group within the gop have been nothing but an impediment to the running of the US since the start of obama’s tenure. Despite obama quite clearly having the authority to deliver certain outcomes they have performed like a bunch of spoilt three year olds. He won’t be running again so it’s time for him to stand his ground and tell this toxic cabal to shut up or shove off.
Hi Hans,
I wish I could view Obama as a full time comedian, but my friend he has the potential to do a lot of damage and I fear he will.
The fact he refuses any negotiation and sees no reason why he should is exactly what I expect from this narcissist. This “defiance” will come with a price, and Obama is more than willing to inflict it on this country. This is very personal and he is seething. My way or hell to pay.
No Hans we have a time bomb waiting to go off here, not a comedian by any stretch.
Reality, your last few comments were held in moderation. There must be a “wrongness filter.” ;)
Reality,
Are you able to answer my question? How have the Democrats been willing to compromise? Since presidents in previous shutdowns have negotiated, any idea when Obama plans to?
You are comparing shutdowns that were completely different situations to this one. It’s not apples to apples. You can’t just go “hey there were shutdowns before, so that means this one is okay and legit and Obama is just being a meanie butt”, it’s not reality and it’s not what is happening right now.
Reality,
So legislators can pass a law they admit they don’t know the content of and when the American people determine they don’t like it, we have no right to act through our elected representatives. Is that what you’re saying?
Remember, Nancy Pelosi did say we had to pass the law to see what was in it.
Jack,
Shutdowns are shutdowns. Presidents negotiated. We’ve had 17 previous shutdowns. What is so unique about this one?
I already explained what I have found is different about this one, you can do the research and find the same thing if you wish.
You keep quoting Pelosi out of context. No one passed a bill having no idea what is in it, repeating that canard doesn’t make it true.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/pelosi-defends-her-infamous-health-care-remark/2012/06/20/gJQAqch6qV_blog.html
I wish I could view Obama as a full time comedian – yet it’s the republicans who are the joke.
The democrats compromised to excess before obamacare became law Mary. None can be justified now. And as I said before, if they did then it would only be the beginning, not the end. The republicans have amply demonstrated their sheer intransigence.
A sinner-sifter Hans?
Here Reality, I liked this article. Others probably won’t read it but you might commiserate with me lol.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-why-this-shutdown-is-different/2013/10/02/c8e720e6-2b97-11e3-b139-029811dbb57f_story.html
Obamacare is a bloated mess of what Heritage originally proposed. They are not fans.
http://www.askheritage.org/what-happens-after-the-affordable-care-act/
http://www.heritage.org/issues/health-care/obamacare
The ACA is actually quite similar to the Heritage’s original proposal, the basics are definitely the same. They just don’t like that the Dems put it into action. And their estimates have been quite off so far, the exchanges have been less expensive than originally projected even by the Dems. It’s really just fear mongering, like it has been for the last five years.
OK Jack,
So did the Democrat legislators read all 906 pages of the bill before they passed it? Also, were the American people given plenty of time to review this major piece of legislation? After all Obama did promise transparency.
It’s a Ponzi scheme that will collapse. The same number are uninsured, just different people. The yuppies who voted for it will be expected to pay for it, and they won’t be getting as much as they think they paid for.
Reality,
You’re not addressing my question. I’m talking about now, not before the ACA was law.
I read that the other day Jack. It is a good piece.
I think that by the time the mid-terms are done and dusted some rather interesting events will have taken place and things will be much improved.
Jack,
So you’re saying all previous shutdowns were exactly the same and this one is unique?
I’ve addressed your question at least twice Mary, there is no need and no justification for obamacare to be compromised now.
Fine Reality,
So you agree that Democrats haven’t been willing to compromise.
“So did the Democrat legislators read all 906 pages of the bill before they passed it?”
You should ask them. But they probably did what every single politician of either party does when a large bill comes up, and go over it with their fellow party representatives and staff.
“Also, were the American people given plenty of time to review this major piece of legislation? After all Obama did promise transparency.”
This is one of the more out-there criticisms I’ve seen yet. We’re a republic, not a direct democracy. Our founders actually say direct democracy as another form of tyranny. We elect our representatives on basis of their views and they are expected to represent the interests of their districts or states, with protections for the minority. Which is what happened, the bill passed through our legal system like it was supposed to do. And anyway, if you really want to know everything in the bill, it’s online and has been for years. I’ve read most of it.
” I think that by the time the mid-terms are done and dusted some rather interesting events will have taken place and things will be much improved.”
Not with the ridiculous gerrymandering and pandering to the extremist part of the base. I really don’t see things improving. But I do think that if the Republicans manage their “compromise” that things will get a whole lot worse.
Fine Reality,
So you agree that Democrats haven’t been willing to compromise. – yes they have. Before it was passed into law. The time for compromises on obamacare is passed, it is gone, it is over.
I think Jack, that there may be a few instances where sane republicans, maybe even those who were there previously, will replace some of the current crop of window-lickers. And in some areas, if that doesn’t happen, the republicans will lose out altogether. Maybe not many, but enough. I see some senate republicans are already concerned about the future. They see their cunning plan to achieve a senate majority evaporating before their very eyes.
Jack,
I’m asking you. You don’t know for certain if the people’s representatives even read the bill or had any idea what was in it?
Not exactly an out there criticism Jack.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-6064298.html
LOL Reality,
That wasn’t the question but apparently that is beside the point with you.
However, I’m glad you agree with me that the Democrats have been unwilling to compromise during this shutdown.
Have you read it all Mary? Do you think every republican member of congress and in the senate has read every last word of it? Or do you think it might be like Jack said, most bills are so long and so complex that if politicians read every word of them they’d never be doing anything else. That’s why they have teams, to brief them, to point out good and bad aspects etc. etc.
So it is an out there criticism.
Everyone knows the republicans are practicing classic blackmail on this. If you give them what they demand they simply demand more….and more…. and more….
You might as well start asking all the Republicans if they read it. Considering the completely false stuff they like to come up with, I wonder sometimes. It’s still a weird question. Do you normally call up your reps and ask them if they read a bill they passed? I don’t think you get how the legislative process works.
I’m gonna start calling up Rubio every time the Senate is in session and demand to know if he’s personally reading the bills that he’s passing or opposing. I think his office would probably laugh.
There is nothing to be unwilling about Mary.
The nearest thing to a compromise that can be justifiably mustered is ‘stop being stupid and pass a clean bill’.
The only compromise the dems may want to consider offering the republicans is ‘stop the shutdown now and we just might forgive you, eventually’.
Reality,
The Republicans had nothing to do with this bill, remember? Also check out my link to Jack. Seems like the Dear Leader reneged on HIS promise where transparency and the health care debate and bill is concerned. So Reality, my criticism is very appropriate.
So its understandable that a law that is not thoroughly read or understood may not be to the liking of the American people after all and they have every right to address this through their elected representatives, correct?
I’m glad we at least agree the Democrats are not open to any negotiations NOW. You seem confused about the time frame under discussion.
Oh, and Obama never promised to let the American people digest some bill before it’s put up for a vote in the Senate and House, that’s ridiculous. He DID promise to broadcast bill negotiations on CSPAN, which he broke. Which I don’t really care, I don’t like Obama and I’ve never claimed I thought he was an amazing president who kept his promises. I didn’t even vote for him. I just dislike inaccuracy, fear mongering, and flat-out falsehoods in people’s criticisms of him, which is mostly what I’ve seen from Republicans. And I really, really dislike my government being held hostage to some children who are mad they didn’t get the legislation that they wanted.
The Republicans had nothing to do with this bill, remember? – what, so they never read it or got briefed on it or anything before they voted on it? That’s irresponsible.
So its understandable that a law that is not thoroughly read or understood may not be to the liking of the American people after all and they have every right to address this through their elected representatives, correct? – do you seriously think that most people have read and fully understand every law which goes through? Really?
I’m glad we at least agree the Democrats are not open to any negotiations NOW. – I told you how many times and NOW you get it?
You seem confused about the time frame under discussion. – not at all, you seem confused that compromise is even worthy of consideration.
Hi Jack,
It is what it is. He promised, he reneged. I wouldn’t have exactly been spellbound by it either but that’s not the point.
Well I and the majority of Americans didn’t like having the ACA rammed down our throats either. That gov’t isn’t being held hostage. The House is sending bills to keep essential services running and are willing to compromise. Harry Reid rejects these efforts.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/3/senate-dems-block-reopening-nih-national-parks/
Reality,
They had nothing to do with passing it. No Republican voted for it. They rejected it. It was the Democrats show all the way. The Republicans couldn’t have stopped it. Remember?
Again you don’t address my question. If the people oppose a law do they not have the right to act through their elected representatives to get rid of it or forestall it? Especially when its a monstrosity that lawmakers likely did not bother to read and the promise made to the people about transparency was reneged?
Let me make this simple for you Reality. In the present time frame of this shutdown, have the Democrats made any effort to compromise?
The House is simply defying a law that has been passed, vetted by SCOTUS and been through numerous votes to get rid of it. There isn’t a precedent for their behavior, and it’s not acceptable.
Jack,
These laws are not set in stone. The voters had such buyer’s remorse over what the 2008 congress did that they elected the 2010 congress that ran on countering Obamacare.
And talk about unprecedented. How about Roberts making up out of whole cloth (rather like Roe’s “shadow of a penumbra”) that compelling the purchase of a product was really just a tax.
Yes, this is a republic. It’s mostly the Republicans who act like it is.
Hey, you’re the one who gave The Republicans had nothing to do with this bill, remember? as the answer to my question Do you think every republican member of congress and in the senate has read every last word of it? That smacks of irresponsibility, big time.
If the people oppose a law do they not have the right to act through their elected representatives to get rid of it or forestall it? – sure. To what extent did that take place?
Especially when its a monstrosity that lawmakers likely did not bother to read – is this your new answer to the question?
Let me make this simple for you Reality. In the present time frame of this shutdown, have the Democrats made any effort to compromise? – and let me make it simple for you Mary.
at 11:09pm I said – compromise is not warranted
at 12:00am I said – The democrats compromised to excess before obamacare became law Mary.
at 12:17am I said – there is no need and no justification for obamacare to be compromised now.
at 12:34am I said – The time for compromises on obamacare is passed, it is gone, it is over.
So why do you keep asking the same question? Is there some other medium you need it delivered in?
Reality,
LOL. Get over it. The Democrats own this catastrophe. It was their baby from day one.
And I will repeat. We are in agreement that Democrats are not open to any negotiations and have refused to compromise during this shutdown.
The law will be scaled down and eventually repealed. Dems have used every trick in the book to pass this “law.” The averaga Joe has no say while the dems hold the court.
“These laws are not set in stone. The voters had such buyer’s remorse over what the 2008 congress did that they elected the 2010 congress that ran on countering Obamacare.”
Actually, the public reelected Obama knowing that Obamacare would be implemented. The left the Senate to the Dems and the Republicans lost the popular vote in the House. The only reason we have so many Tea Party people in the House is they are either from states that ALWAYS go red or gerrymandering. There’s also a lot of just falsehood thrown around, like 90% of what certain people here write about the ACA, that affects the American public’s view. Do you know that a few people I have talked to thought the IRS could arrest you for not having insurance? It’s just ridiculous.
No one says that laws can’t be changed. There are ways to do that. You CAN’T use a law that you don’t like to keep from passing a continuing resolution or a budget. That’s just obstructionism and harms our country. What needs to happen is the Republicans buck up and act like grown ups and do the jobs they were hired for, and attempt other ways to keep people from affording health insurance. Not screwing with our countries economy by putting people (however temporarily) out of work.
So this year the Republicans shutdown the government over the ACA. If they get their way this year, next year they shut down the government until DADT comes back, or they kill the ACA all together, or whatever demands they can come up with. This isn’t a proper way to get about getting rid of established, legitimate laws, it’s just tyranny.
“Well I and the majority of Americans didn’t like having the ACA rammed down our throats either. That gov’t isn’t being held hostage. The House is sending bills to keep essential services running and are willing to compromise. Harry Reid rejects these efforts.”
You guys fall for their stuff hook, line, and sinker. They want to look like they care anything about the country while getting their way. That’s why they picked a few popular things to put on a big show about the meanie Dems not letting them get funded. I’m glad the Dems aren’t bending. Maybe the Republicans will realize this isn’t our rule of law and not how grown men and women should act when you don’t get the legislation you want.
You guys fall for their stuff hook, line, and sinker. They want to look like they care anything about the country while getting their way.
Right back atcha, Jack. Over half the country doesn’t want to lie down on the tracks for this oncoming train. It will probably be relatively unchanged for the next year or two, as the headlines detailing this disaster will be coming at us like those spinning newspaper front pages in old black and white movies.
At least 2014 will be 2010 times two.
Just like Obama wasn’t elected again and the Dems lost the Senate in 2012? And the Republicans won the popular vote in the House? I don’t think that the Tea Party has the backing that people think they do, even the more moderate Republicans are starting to see what a mistake it was to play to that base so hard. I think you guys might be surprised come next year.
Jack,
The fact remains ACA is unpopular. Yes Obama was reelected but so was the Republican House. Even Obama’s friends and supporters in the unions, which includes the SEIU as well as the teamsters, want out. The majority of the American people have consistently opposed it.
The point is the gov’t can continue running just fine without Obamacare. Obama won’t hear of it. The Republicans have compromised. Obama refuses to negotiate. Don’t be fooled for a minute, Reid is only doing as ordered so when he is rejecting any attempts by the Republicans to fund essential services, Obama is running this show.
There’s no need to close the WW2 Memorial. Normally its an open park. That’s petulance on the part of Obama who wants to make sure people are hurt and inconvenienced every way possible.
Thank you Mary for mentioning WW2 Memorial. I wrote about this on another thread. But than again Pres Obama has treated the Military like his personal water boys since day one in office. And I still can’t get over the chief not stepping in there and distancing himslef from Reid’s remarks. Phony dems everywhere..
LOL. Get real. The gop own this catastrophe. Obamacare is past day one.
And I will repeat. The gop are behaving just like blackmailers and are holding the nation to ransom.
The law will be scaled down and eventually repealed. – no it won’t. It’ll be expanded and improved over time and before you know it it’ll become something that no political party of any persuasion would risk touching.
At least 2014 will be 2010 times two. – no it won’t. It will be what I said earlier.
“no it won’t. It’ll be expanded and improved over time and before you know it it’ll become something that no political party of any persuasion would risk touching.”
Like universal healthcare in every single country that has it. Not even their conservatives even think about touching it, there would be revolts. Most developed nations think we’re crazy to not have healthcare paid for by everyone out of taxes and guaranteed for everyone. They tell me we’re barbaric for the way we do things. :/
Eventually the ACA will give way to universal, it’s the only thing that really does work well, keeps costs down to a reasonable level while insuring everyone has access to care.
– See more at: https://www.jillstanek.com/2013/10/pro-life-video-of-the-day-reid-dismisses-funding-child-cancer-treatment/#sthash.PbcIlMIX.dpuf
I’m so tired of this website adding that “see more” link to all of my comments when I quote someone. I don’t notice until it’s too late to edit!
You are absolutely right about universal healthcare Jack.
I’ve been copying and pasting to a draft email, deleting the ‘add-on’ then cutting and pasting it into my comment under construction.
Dude this one guy I used to talk to, he lives in Australia, literally didn’t believe me when I told him people can get thousands of dollars in ER bills for things like pneumonia or strep or a staph infection. I told him about the one time I got what I was pretty sure was strep throat and I had one of my old dealer buddies get me antibiotics so I wouldn’t have to go even MORE in debt for something that, in any civilized country, would have been very cheap to take care of. And he finds my ridiculous medical debt, for two random happenstances that I couldn’t have prevented, incredibly unfair and pretty much awful for any country that dares to call itself the leader of the free world. He simply can’t imagine not having basic healthcare needs financed for everyone by everyone. And Australia isn’t socialist or anything, they just don’t leave something like healthcare solely to the free market.
“I told him about the one time I got what I was pretty sure was strep throat and I had one of my old dealer buddies get me antibiotics so I wouldn’t have to go even MORE in debt for something that, in any civilized country, would have been very cheap to take care of. ”
I’VE HEARD that fish amoxicillin is basically the same as regular amoxicillin, just available from pet-supply stores sans prescription, so it is also possible to keep that on hand for emergencies. SO I’VE HEARD. :lurk:
Yes, “healthcare” in the good old USA. I’ve spent most of my adult life fully employed and completely uninsured. The American dream.
I don’t wholly support ACA for a couple reasons; but regardless, it’s ridiculous to pretend that this law is somehow unlawful or “unfair.” It’s basically as lawful as laws get in this country. People don’t like it – deal. I don’t really like it either. I get my vote and everybody else gets theirs, and we get to vote again soon, and that’s the way it works. We don’t hold the country hostage because we DON’T LIKE a law that has passed via the proper executive channels that have always served our country in the past.
And this bull about how Democrats are denying kids their cancer treatment because they won’t “compromise”? That’s basically like some random terrorist walking into a school, pointing a gun at a kid’s head, and saying, “If you don’t free the terrorists you’ve jailed, you will be killing this kid because I will shoot him. You can stop me from shooting this kid by freeing terrorists x, y, and z.” No. The person shooting the kid is the one who kills the kid, and the people shutting down the government because they want “more compromise” after years of it, and now in a completely unprecedented manner, are the ones denying those kids their cancer treatment.
Thanks Alexandra, completely agree with your post. I just find the whole healthcare mess extremely frustrating, even before this stupid tyrannical shut down thing.
And obviously, you should have quit your jobs and gone on welfare, like someone so kindly suggested you do because you were one of the “deserving” people who needed health insurance (in case you can’t tell I’m rolling my eyes so hard they hurt).
9ek: ”Most of our politicians and members of the media are an veritable embarrassment to democracy, freedom, and the whole human race. I don’t expect a lot of likes or agreements, but there. Vented. Done.”
There have only been a handful of politicians in Congress that I thought were really going a good job, for as long as I can remember. Agreed that it’s foolish to be making such a big deal over what are silly objections and positions – regardless of political party.
No matter what happens with “current events,” the largest, really-meaningful can is just getting kicked down the road. I think “Catch-22” now applies – it’s not politically possible for the people we need in office to get elected.
it’s not politically possible for the people we need in office to get elected – which would indicate that most people think they are not the people needed, let alone wanted.
Harry Reid please read the Constitution. The House has every right to pick and choose what gets funded. Every bill dealing with taxing and spending must originate in the House per the Constitution. That is why we elect representatives. The problem I see with the Democrats is that they want government to be all things to all people. We can’t afford it. Cut the waste. Keep what is essential.