Family planning stamp
Pro-abort Karen Tomb at RH (Reproductive Health) Reality Check told an interesting story the other day of stumbling across a U.S. family planning stamp from 1972 in a box of old keepsakes.
The stamp was apparently pushed by Planned Parenthood. Such an insidious and smart group. Said Tomb:
In announcing the appearance of the stamp at a gathering of Planned Parenthood Federation supporters, JT Ellington, the then-director of the Postal Service’s office of communication, was quoted in the March 18, 1972 New York Times saying “We hope… this stamp will serve as a reminder to all members of our society… that a spiraling world population and the environmental and social ills that inevitably follow – is everyone’s concern.”
(For the latest on the “spiraling world population” 35 years later read this August 17 USA Today article.)
Tomb said, “[A]pparently family planning was not only supported by the Nixon administration, but enjoyed sufficient public acceptance to warrant a commemorative postage stamp….”
I think Tomb was acknowledging such a stamp would not see the light of day today, and I think she’s right. What has changed? I don’t think a Republican administration can be “blamed.”
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Tomb said, “[A]pparently family planning was not only supported by the Nixon administration, but enjoyed sufficient public acceptance to warrant a commemorative postage stamp….”
I think Tomb was acknowledging such a stamp would not see the light of day today, and I think she’s right. What has changed? I don’t think a Republican administration can be “blamed.”
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I think that Tomb was very clear about what she thinks when she followed with this:
“What the world sees now is a presidential administration obsessed with satisfying the radical fringe’s definition of morality and family values even if it means ignoring sound public health.”
And I agree.
What is your problem with PP Jill? Are you anti pap smear, anti-education, anti BC and anti STD protection along with being anti-choice?
“What the world sees now is a presidential administration obsessed with satisfying the radical fringe’s definition of morality and family values even if it means ignoring sound public health.
Substitute a few words, add one here or there and I think you’ve got it just about right…
What the world sees now is a democratic party obsessed with satisfying the radical left fringes definition of morality (gay marriage, abortion, embryonic stem cell research, euthanasia, loss of family, divorce) and anti family values even if it means ignoring sound public health.
Sally, are you proposing the premise to me that PP does mostly good things except for one?
Planned Parenthood Services:
Affiliate Medical Services Summary*
Contraception
one million of those “services” were pregnancy tests! I’ll alert the media!
What the world sees now is a democratic party obsessed with satisfying the radical left fringes definition of morality (gay marriage, abortion, embryonic stem cell research, euthanasia, loss of family, divorce) and anti family values even if it means ignoring sound public health.
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The Republicans are offering one, ONE undivorced candidate – and Mitt can’t win!
It seems that democrats are trying to become centrists, while the republicans openly embrace their more radical members. It drives me crazy, sometimes.
Off the subject… I’m done with the movie! I just need a few people to critique, burn the DVDs and put it on youtube and I’m done!!!!
I’m very excited. This one really took a long time. It so far is a little over 30 minutes, so I guess I’ll have to splice it for youtubes sake….but it makes me proud.
Abortion Services
Planned Parenthood was created at a time when it was ILLEGAL to tell women about birth control and tell them about contraceptives. The mortality rate from ‘child bed fever’ and illegal abortions among the poverty stricken immigrants living in NY slums was horrific. Sanger got thrown in jail for telling women about condoms. Trying to pretend that 97% of the work PP does is somehow negated by 3% of the services they offer is laughable. It shows the antichoice disregard for the welfare of women. Antichoicers are happy to see 97 women NOT get the health care they need as long as they can prevent 3 women from getting an abortion they WANT.
Sally, are you proposing the premise to me that PP does mostly good things except for one?
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I except nothing. PP came to my high school in the 12th grade. They explained BC and their failures. STDs as they were in 1974. Forms of BC and disease prevention along with information about cancer of the female organs and the importance of detection. They performed my first pap. And I gotta tell you that the family doc my family had didn’t have a freaking clue of how to perform a pap let alone care about doing one.
Many years later and after giving birth to two children I faced cervical cancer. Found out that I was pregnant as I was being wheeled into the operating room. The doc said that I would most certainly miscarry if I went through with the operation or would die if I didn’t. At the follow up I had a problem with not having had a spontaneous abortion as my doc said I would and how one could actually kill me and leave my children without a mother. The doc sent me to PP for an abortion. He didn’t have the knowledge to abort an 8 week embryo but was supposed to be an expert on women’s reproductive organs?
one million of those “services” were pregnancy tests! I’ll alert the media!
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So women shouldnt have access to pregnancy tests?
No, but it sure does make it look like a million more wonderful things were done by PP…seems a little dishonest to throw each one into the statistic pile.
Thanks PIP, were looking forward to it. The last one was pretty neat!
Sally,
why did you have the abortion if you made it through the operation without mis-carrying.
Sally,
why did you have the abortion if you made it through the operation without mis-carrying.
Posted by: jasper at August 21, 2007 8:09 Pm…………………………………………………………………………………..
Are you really stupid or do you just pretend? Bloody fool. I was told that I would most certianly spontaneously abort. Abortion is a load safer than a miscarriage. If you had a clue about how gestation actually works I wouldn’t have to explain this to you.
Thanks, jasper.
Be forewarned that the subject matter is different and therefore not child appropriate. But also know that there is some content that can be said to be “offensive” when what they do is provide commentary and satire to our movie (which is pretty ridiculous in its on right).
But I highly recommend it to someone with a sense of humor and rebelliousness, and the 30 minutes is worth sitting through.
*own
you tell him Sally!
“What the world sees now is a democratic party obsessed with satisfying the radical left fringes definition of morality (gay marriage, abortion, embryonic stem cell research, euthanasia, loss of family, divorce) and anti family values even if it means ignoring sound public health.”
This is what I was saying yesterday, if Hillary had divorced Bill people would have still been on her case.
In actuality a lot of the people I meet are fairly apathetic about all these issues, so they are not as radical as you think.
Sally,
I think that was a sincere question on Jasper’s part; no need to get hostile. The same question was on my mind, so I’m glad he had the courage to ask.
I recall hearing testimony from women being told they had to abort due to their cancer situation and ended up with beautiful healthy children. And before you start throwing me insults, I’m merely stating this for informative purposes, NOT to get you all fired up. I thnk it’s interesting how different people act upon similar circumstances.
carder, this is typical of Sally.
Sally: “Abortion is a load safer than a miscarriage.”
Jill, you are a nurse; is this true? I thought the body handled miscarriages effeciently because they were natural.
Uh, Sally, I hate to break this to you but there is little concenus within the medical community regarding expectant care (naturally letting your body miscarry) and surgical care. Study after study shows the two to be quite comperable, and almost always entirely up to the woman to decide. You’re being quite disingenuis to suggest that even a fraction of doctors would claim surgical abortion to be the clear winner in terms of standard of care for women after actual or immenent fetal demise.
Ellie, not answering for Jill, but I had two natural miscarriages, and neither were physically painful for me and I did not develop any infections- nature took its course, and my body knew what to do. I know that there are risk factors, such as infection, but as long as you don’t take a bath and keep the area generally clean, there shouldn’t be any problem, from what my doctor told me.
Here is something I pulled up on a website from a medical doctor:
A cervical Dilation and Curettage is a procedure where the uterine cervix is dilated in some fashion, and the uterine contents are extracted, either by scrapping with a curette, or by applying suction through a tube.
A D&C is not always necessary after a miscarriage, and in fact it is preferable to avoid the potential risks of surgery (even “minor surgery”) and anesthesia if possible. A natural miscarriage is generally safer, with fewer risks of complications. On the other hand, a natural miscarriage can be a prolonged and potentially scary process, with increasing pain and cramping, associated with bleeding, sometimes very, very heavy bleeding as your uterus contracts to expell the products of conception. There is also the time factor, since the miscarriage is not likely to take place on any sort of schedule.
The only advantages that a D&C has over a natural miscarriage is that you know when it is going to happen, and the duration of the process is short. The risk of infection is about the same either way, but the surgery has complications, and so does the anesthesia. Admittedly, these risks are low, but they are still higher than with a spontaneous miscarriage.
I generally present both sides of the story and let the patient chose how she will go through this tragic time in her life. The split in my practice is about 75/30 in favor of natural miscarriage.
Here’s the findings of one of the larger studies.
We found no difference in the primary outcome measure
Also, if you begin miscarrying, and you are having enough blood to soak a pad from top to bottom 3 times in an hour, that is when they will advise that you go to the ER. Something could be going wrong.
Also, if you begin miscarrying, and you are having enough blood to soak a pad from top to bottom 3 times in an hour, that is when they will advise that you go to the ER. Something could be going wrong.
Ellie, it’s ridiculous to assert abortion is safer than miscarriage.
Sally, your story is odd. Missing pieces. The doc thought you’d miscarry and you didn’t. So s/he forced it?
And you said, “PP came to my high school in the 12th grade. They explained BC and their failures. STDs as they were in 1974. Forms of BC and disease prevention along with information about cancer of the female organs….
Many years later and after giving birth to two children I faced cervical cancer….”
So apparently you didn’t gain anything from the PP education, since you apparently contracted HPV, which causes virtually all cervical cancer? Was the problem with PP’s curriculum perhaps? Or that PP didn’t educate you thoroughly? What?
One more point, Sally.
I had a miscarriage a few months ago, and my doctor didn’t even recommend or mention surgical management. He just told me to to home, and miscarry naturally and be sure to come to the ER if I had any extreme pain or blood loss.
I miscarried completely within days of my levels falling. I know that I was really blessed to have such a short miscarriage, but from what I’ve read it is far from unusual to miscarry quickly.
The only thing expectant management seems to raise is an increase in the number of women needing an unplanned d&c. Of course, it would make sense that fewer woman would need a repeat d&c than an original.
Most of these d&c’s after expectant management are not due to infection or bleeding, but rather the woman’s own preference after waiting some time and not naturally miscarrying.
So apparently you didn’t gain anything from the PP education, since you apparently contracted HPV, which causes virtually all cervical cancer? Was the problem with PP’s curriculum perhaps? Or that PP didn’t educate you thoroughly? What?
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You can get HPV from non-sexual contact. You can also get it from your husband on your wedding night. You can even get cervical cancer without having HPV AT ALL!
Was there something wrong with the curriculum at Billy Bob’s Bait Shop, Nursing School and Patio Furniture Emporium? Didn’t Billy Bob educate you thoroughly? What?
Speaking of Billy Bob, I watched Astronaut Farmer the other night. 2-3/8 stars.
Laura, Laura. The odds of getting cervical cancer sans HPV are less than 1%. And if Sally got it on her wedding night (Sally?), then she apparently did not communicate with her husband about his prior sexual contact. Doesn’t PP teach people to have STD testing if there is a history of serial sex?
Jill,
Your comment’s about PP’s (lack of) education are mine also.
One thing though…..I read that there is no HPV test for men. I’d have find where I read that. Do you have a source that says there is…I’d like to bookmark it. It doesn’t make sense to me that there isn’t.
Regardless if there is or isn’t a test for men, this is just more reason for chastity to be practiced by BOTH women AND men. A man who has sex before marriage is putting his future wive’s health (and life) at risk (talk about misogyny :-) )
Sally,
I think that was a sincere question on Jasper’s part; no need to get hostile. The same question was on my mind, so I’m glad he had the courage to ask.
I recall hearing testimony from women being told they had to abort due to their cancer situation and ended up with beautiful healthy children. And before you start throwing me insults, I’m merely stating this for informative purposes, NOT to get you all fired up. I thnk it’s interesting how different people act upon similar circumstances.
Posted by: carder at August 22, 2007 6:38 AM
If one thinks about it, one might consider what type of cancer and what type of surgery was involved. Being cervical cancer it might become obvious to one with even limited medical knowledge why miscarriage would be a certainty. Never mind that any surgery or cancer treatment could be extremely harmful to a conceptus.
Oh I am sorry about these multiple posts! I seem to be having a real problem with posting today. I get an error, it’s not there, try again, and then they all appear.
Also, “wive’s” should have been “wife’s”….
Uh, Sally, I hate to break this to you but there is little concenus within the medical community regarding expectant care (naturally letting your body miscarry) and surgical care. Study after study shows the two to be quite comperable, and almost always entirely up to the woman to decide. You’re being quite disingenuis to suggest that even a fraction of doctors would claim surgical abortion to be the clear winner in terms of standard of care for women after actual or immenent fetal demise.
Posted by: lauren at August 22, 2007 8:49 AM
Umm excuse me Lauren. You are quite wrong. Intelligent medicine recognizes the harm done by ‘natural’ miscarriage/delivery and the potential harm to future gestation as well as a woman’s health. My mother’s last pregnancy produced rotting pieces of a conceptus. It had been rotting for 3 months. I’m very lucky to have had a mother after her experience. ‘Letting’ your body just do something and everything will be fine is fantasy land.
Uh, Sally, I hate to break this to you but there is little concenus within the medical community regarding expectant care (naturally letting your body miscarry) and surgical care. Study after study shows the two to be quite comperable, and almost always entirely up to the woman to decide. You’re being quite disingenuis to suggest that even a fraction of doctors would claim surgical abortion to be the clear winner in terms of standard of care for women after actual or immenent fetal demise.
Posted by: lauren at August 22, 2007 8:49 AM
Umm excuse me Lauren. You are quite wrong. Intelligent medicine recognizes the harm done by ‘natural’ miscarriage/delivery and the potential harm to future gestation as well as a woman’s health. My mother’s last pregnancy produced rotting pieces of a conceptus. It had been rotting for 3 months. I’m very lucky to have had a mother after her experience. ‘Letting’ your body just do something and everything will be fine is fantasy land.
Uh, Sally, I hate to break this to you but there is little concenus within the medical community regarding expectant care (naturally letting your body miscarry) and surgical care. Study after study shows the two to be quite comperable, and almost always entirely up to the woman to decide. You’re being quite disingenuis to suggest that even a fraction of doctors would claim surgical abortion to be the clear winner in terms of standard of care for women after actual or immenent fetal demise.
Honey, when a doctor actually takes time to examine a woman’s situation, abortion is sometimes the intelligent option. It always comes down to the choice of the woman.
Annonymous,
It sounds to me like Sally was never really given a “choice” she was directed what to do by her doctor.
Ummm… excuse me Annonymous,you are completely wrong about natural miscarriage vs. D&C procedure. Lauren is quite right and there are several studies to prove what she is saying. Unfortunatley your mother didn’t have a good experience. Why wasn’t her doctor aware she still had products of conception in her uterus??? Your story doesn’t make natural miscarriage anymore dangerous than a surgical D&C. You need to get your head out of fantasy land.
Laura,
Umm excuse me Lauren. You are quite wrong. Intelligent medicine recognizes the harm done by ‘natural’ miscarriage/delivery and the potential harm to future gestation as well as a woman’s health.
You need to cite your sources…(said in a sing-song voice)
Annonymous,
It sounds to me like Sally was never really given a “choice” she was directed what to do by her doctor.
Umm excuse me Lauren. You are quite wrong. Intelligent medicine recognizes the harm done by ‘natural’ miscarriage/delivery and the potential harm to future gestation as well as a woman’s health.
Ummm… excuse me Annonymous,you are completely wrong about natural miscarriage vs. D&C procedure. Lauren is quite right and there are several studies to prove what she is saying. Where did you get your information???
Women were miscarrying naturally for millions of years prior to the D&C procedure. Unfortunatley your mother didn’t have a good experience. Why wasn’t her doctor aware she still had products of conception in her uterus??? Your story doesn’t make natural miscarriage anymore dangerous than a surgical D&C. You need to get your head out of fantasy land.
Ellie, it’s ridiculous to assert abortion is safer than miscarriage.
Sally, your story is odd. Missing pieces. The doc thought you’d miscarry and you didn’t. So s/he forced it?
And you said, “PP came to my high school in the 12th grade. They explained BC and their failures. STDs as they were in 1974. Forms of BC and disease prevention along with information about cancer of the female organs….
Many years later and after giving birth to two children I faced cervical cancer….”
So apparently you didn’t gain anything from the PP education, since you apparently contracted HPV, which causes virtually all cervical cancer? Was the problem with PP’s curriculum perhaps? Or that PP didn’t educate you thoroughly? What?
Posted by: Jill Stanek at August 22, 2007 9:15 AM
It was the late 80’s. HPV was unheard of by the medical community. Why do you think that PP should have known about it before ….oh say…. your church?
Annonymous,
It sounds to me like Sally was never really given a “choice” she was directed what to do by her doctor.
Ummm… excuse me Annonymous,you are completely wrong about natural miscarriage vs. D&C procedure. Lauren is quite right and there are several studies to prove what she is saying. Unfortunatley your mother didn’t have a good experience. Why wasn’t her doctor aware she still had products of conception in her uterus??? Your story doesn’t make natural miscarriage anymore dangerous than a surgical D&C. You need to get your head out of fantasy land.
Umm excuse me Lauren. You are quite wrong. Intelligent medicine recognizes the harm done by ‘natural’ miscarriage/delivery and the potential harm to future gestation as well as a woman’s health. My mother’s last pregnancy produced rotting pieces of a conceptus. It had been rotting for 3 months. I’m very lucky to have had a mother after her experience. ‘Letting’ your body just do something and everything will be fine is fantasy land.
Sally, as tragic as it is that this happened to your mother, this isn’t the norm.
Please show evidence of an actual medical site or document which claims that natural miscarriage is more dangerous than a D & C in the majority of cases.
Why wasn’t her doctor aware she still had products of conception in her uterus???
That is a good question, Sandy. Sally, care to answer?
Annonymous,
It sounds to me like Sally was never really given a “choice” she was directed what to do by her doctor.
Ummm… excuse me Annonymous,you are completely wrong about natural miscarriage vs. D&C procedure. Lauren is quite right and there are several studies to prove what she is saying. Unfortunatley your mother didn’t have a good experience. Why wasn’t her doctor aware she still had products of conception in her uterus??? Your story doesn’t make natural miscarriage anymore dangerous than a surgical D&C. You need to get your head out of fantasy land.
Posted by: Sandy at August 22, 2007 4:03 PM
I seem to be annonymous or Sally depending on the state of this web site.
Sandy, how old are you? How would a doctor know that a fetus was dead in 1962? Mom knew it was dead. Why would a doctor care? Unborn unbaby’s were of no signifigance to society. Women and their ‘condition’ even less so. It’s all just natural for women to have their lives threatened by gestation. Failed or not.
These days doctors do not leave dead fetii in utero. To do so would lead to legal action against them.
Now tell me how far back would you like to take icky poo poo women stuff?
Sally,
Right underneath where it says “Post a Comment” it has a place for your name…retype sally there.
The same thing was happening to me last week…drove me nuts!
Laura,
Umm excuse me Lauren. You are quite wrong. Intelligent medicine recognizes the harm done by ‘natural’ miscarriage/delivery and the potential harm to future gestation as well as a woman’s health.
You need to cite your sources…(said in a sing-song voice)
Posted by: mk at August 22, 2007 4:16 PM
No problem. As soon as Lauren cites her sources. Better yet, why don’t you do it for her?
Sally,
Right underneath where it says “Post a Comment” it has a place for your name…retype sally there.
The same thing was happening to me last week…drove me nuts!
Posted by: mk at August 22, 2007 5:02 PM
Thanks mk! Just got a Mac and everything seems different from the PC.
From Emedicinehealth.com:
Risks of D & C:
Dilation and Curettage (D&C) (cont.)
IN THIS ARTICLE
* Dilation and Curettage (D&C) Introduction
* Risks
* Dilation and Curettage Preparation
* During the Procedure
* After the Procedure
* When to Seek Medical Care
* Follow-up
* For More Information
* Web Links
* Multimedia
* Synonyms and Keywords
* References
* Authors and Editors
Risks
* Hemorrhage: Heavy bleeding is rare, but it can happen if an instrument injures the walls of your uterus. It also can occur if an undetected fibroid is cut during curettage.
* Infection: There is always a slight possibility of infection once instruments are inserted into the uterus. Most infections can be easily cured with antibiotics. Some can be very serious.
* Perforated uterus: This complication, though rare, is more common in women who have a uterine infection at the time of the procedure, in elderly postmenopausal women, and if the procedure is being done for a miscarriage. If your doctor suspects this condition has developed, you may be asked to stay in the hospital for observation or further surgery.
* Asherman syndrome: This complication is rare and involves the formation of scar tissue in the uterus, caused by aggressive scraping or abnormal reaction to the scraping. Thick scars can result, which can fill up the uterus completely. This can cause your menstrual periods to stop and make you infertile (unable to get pregnant).
* Missed disease: Studies indicate that only 10-20% of the endometrial cavity is actually scraped during a D&C, so there is a chance the disease could go undetected. This is why the procedure is seldom done without a hysteroscopy anymore.
From WebMD:
Risks
The risks of dilation and curettage (D&C) include:
* Injury to the uterine lining or cervix.
* Infection. Bacteria can enter the uterus during the procedure and cause an infection. This is more likely if an untreated disease, such as a sexually transmitted disease (STD), is present before the procedure. Symptoms of fever, pain, and abdominal tenderness will usually start within 2 to 3 days of the procedure. Antibiotics given during or after the procedure reduce the risk of infection.
* Excessive bleeding.
Rare complications include:
* A hole in the wall of the uterus (uterine perforation, rare), which most commonly happens during cervical dilation. Bleeding is usually minimal, and no repair is necessary. If bleeding is a concern, a laparoscopy (a procedure that uses a lighted viewing instrument) can be used to see whether it has stopped.
* Constant, excessive bleeding.
* Tissue remaining in the uterus (retained products of conception), usually causing recurring cramping abdominal pain and bleeding within a week of the procedure. However, prolonged bleeding sometimes does not occur until several weeks later.
* Blood clots. If the uterus doesn’t contract to pass all of the tissue, the cervical opening can become blocked, preventing blood from leaving the uterus. The uterus becomes enlarged and tender, often with abdominal pain, cramping, and nausea. A repeat vacuum aspiration and medicine to stop bleeding are used to treat retained products of conception or blood clots.
Having two or more D&C abortions could create enough scar tissue to affect your future ability to become pregnant (infertility), as well as your risk of pregnancy complications. Such complications include implantation of a fertilized egg outside of the uterus (ectopic pregnancy), miscarriage, or growth of the placenta over the cervix (placenta previa).3
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The only risks that I am aware of (I couldn’t find a single medical site talking about the risks of natural miscarriage), for a natural miscarriage are hemorrhaging, discomfort, risk of infection, and not knowing when the miscarriage might begin. If you can find any others, please let me know.
Ellie, you’re right about no HPV testing for men. Didn’t know that!
Um, The source is quoted directly Sally.
Again, if you missed it-
We found no difference in the primary outcome measure
No problem Sally.
Now see, we were both nice and lived to tell the tale!
Sally, do you honestly believe any of the crap that comes out of your mouth?
I posted the main findings of a study and you whine and complain that I didn’t “site my study”. Do you honestly think I would make up an entire false study just to prove you wrong? Are you so willfully ignorant that you refuse to do a simple google search of “expectant management of miscarraige” and see what you find? Here I’ll help you, since you seem to have a lot of trouble looking up
Here’s some more Sally, though I don’t know why you are asking for links when you refuse to open them.
http://www.questdiagnostics.com/kbase/dp/topic/tn7433/dp.htm
This is a general page that shows the risks and benefits of all types of care following fetal demise.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0689/is_10_54/ai_n15875280
This is from the journal of family medicine. A particularly convincing quote is that “. Adoption of a wait-and-see approach is common, but a substantial minority wants closure and presses for surgical therapy. Now both groups can be reassured that their choices are equally safe, and physicians can comfortably comply with their patients’ wishes.”
See that, Sally. It says EQUALLY safe. Do you know what that means? Should I go on?
Sally, I’m sorry that your doctor lied to you or was misinformed, but please do not continue to spread that misinformation on to others.
Um, The source is quoted directly Sally.
Again, if you missed it-
We found no difference in the primary outcome measure
What the bloody hell Sally? Seriously, do you honestly think that a miscarriage in freaking ENGLAND is any different than one in the US? I mean, the last time I checked neither were third world countries.
Moreover, I posted two additional American citations. How many studies do I have to quote before you realize that you are wrong?
Sally, do you honestly believe any of the crap that comes out of your mouth?
I posted the main findings of a study and you whine and complain that I didn’t “site my study”. Do you honestly think I would make up an entire false study just to prove you wrong? Are you so willfully ignorant that you refuse to do a simple google search of “expectant management of miscarraige” and see what you find? Here I’ll help you, since you seem to have a lot of trouble looking up
Posted by: lauren at August 22, 2007 6:14 PM
Silly Lauren
Do you honestly just swallow watever crap you are told to? I’m sorry if I missed your ‘study’ of American women and their gestational experieneces. Please enlighten me with your link.
Additionally, I JUST had a freaking miscarriage 3 months ago. I think I would *know* how they are handled in the United States. I have miscaried or threatened to miscarry in 4 different states, so I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it is pretty universal.
Of course, there is no need to take my word for it when EVERY SINGLE medical website in the UNITED STATES contends that expectant management (i.e. waiting to naturally miscarry) is proper medical care for women who do not wish to have a surgical procedure performed.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0689/is_10_54/ai_n15875280
Study
http://www.questdiagnostics.com/kbase/dp/topic/tn7433/dp.htm
Protocol
Though Sally, I thought you didn’t like links because they infected your computer with voodoo viruses. At least that’s the excuse you gave when you refused to look at bethany’s photos.
Planned Parenthood goes underground
It’s our fault Planned Parenthood is sneaking around, lying, and deceiving the public, so its says. More on that momentarily. But it’s interesting that we’re apparently driving PP underground. We may not be impairing its bottom line ($902.8 million fis…