Misogyny breakout
I must spotlight reader Jacqueline’s comment from the post on my WND column today, “Liberal misogynitis.”
Now, this is the voice of an authentic feminist, exposing how modern day thiefs of a Godly concept have unfathomably led women to be further exploited, degraded, ashamed, and intimidated from being who they really are. I’m breaking up paragraphs for easier reading:
We’re discussing misogyny.
No one suggests that men can’t be successful or have civil rights if they are denied access to condoms and sterilization, but the mantra of the pro-choicers is that women can’t be successful without access to pills that compromise our healthy reproductive capacity and surgery to kill any children that might be growing within us….
What they are saying, then, is that female anatomy is a liability that subjugates us to men- that our inherent femininity is holding us back. Our anatomy that gives us the ability to conceive and birth children is OPPRESSING us, so we either better butcher those fallopian tubes or take a pill to shut down our ovaries because there’s no way that a woman can be a success while those body parts are present and functioning.
So, to them, it’s female anatomy that is holding back our equality with men. So what makes us different supposably makes us inferior- so we are expected to change that. I say NO.
My viewpoint is that women are different than men, and since we comprise over 50% of all humanity, society should accommodate those differences rather than expect us to become “like men” in order to have the same rights and opportunities.
Notice that ALL chemical/hormonal contraceptives are designed to sabotage women’s complex reproductive system: shut down the ovaries, change the lining of the uterus, change cervical mucus and yet no pill or shot has been designed to kill men’s little tadpoles.
That’s all men contribute to reproduction, yet the male body remains healthy and unhindered by chemicals and hormones – while an entire industry exists so female bodies can sabotage several organs, an entire system – because, of course, we females are the ones that need to change, right? And how is this viewpoint not anti-woman?
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
GO JACQUELINE!!!! A true pro-woman feminist!
My viewpoint is that women are different than men, and since we comprise over 50% of all humanity, society should accommodate those differences rather than expect us to become “like men” in order to have the same rights and opportunities.
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Society’s done just fine.
You might notice that Nancy Pelosi has five children and has a pretty successful career. Hillary, Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein are a few others who have have children and successful careers.
Ann Coulter, Condaleeza Rice and Laura Ingraham have no intrest in having children, and they have fine careers, too!
Different strokes…
When it comes to the pro choice position, the woman either doesnt know what she is talking about or is deliberately lying. Why would anyone try to pretend that letting women make up their own minds and make their own decisions somehow is insulting to women?
I’ve been saying since last March that “Post Modern Feminism” was a man’s idea.
They get all the sex they want, none of the responsibilities, they no longer have to marry women, they don’t take chemicals that mess with their very essence, they don’t kill their babies, but they don’t have to raise them either, their wives work and keep house and do most of the child rearing, and on the outside chance that they do marry us, they can divorce us and live out their lives as dead beat dads…unless of course there is a pre-nup which women are nuts enough to sign saying they get zippo!
Yeah, feminism is great in the year 2007!
Jacqueline-
Best. Comment. Ever.
So a woman can only ‘be herself’ if she wants to have children … and you really expect to be taken seriously –
Preschool and Kindergarten children are taught to share. They are taught that we are different and that is good. Nature made us different and that is good. We teach it to our children, but do we believe it? We should be excited to share with our children whether or not they are planned. We should be excited to greet every new little person. If we really value women, we should be excited to know she is expecting and excited for the opportunity to share with her and her baby. If every woman could expect society, her family, friends and the father of her child to love her and welcome her baby, how much joy there would be in sharing. As a society we miss out on so much joy by not loving these new mothers and babies. We overvalue what an expecting mother could be in terms of income potential from some job and undervalue the priceless gift of her just being here and sharing with us the next generation. All contraceptives have failure rates. Some higher than others. We shouldn’t believe that what is made by human hands can fool nature all of the time. When nature wins, we win because we are here. My mother used the “new” contraceptives, yet I am here and by extension so are my children. Nature won, we won. Did she lose because we weren’t planned? Valuing people is a win-win situation. I know that my nature and love values put some people off but we really need to challenge ourselves to love and value people(including women and unplanned babies) and nature(including reproduction) more than what we create such as careers, money and even contraceptives. I am not against contraceptives, just our unrealistic attitude that we deserve 100% protection against babies. Babies are good! Women’s bodies are good! Reproduction is good! Sharing is good!
I find it hilarious that the only way women can ‘really be themselves’ is if they want to gestate and give birth. Being able to avoid pregnancy is somehow a ‘betrayal’ of our ‘femininity’. And you really expect this idiocy to be taken seriously?
I find it hilarious that the only way women can ‘really be themselves’ is if they want to gestate and give birth. Being able to avoid pregnancy is somehow a ‘betrayal’ of our ‘femininity’. And you really expect this idiocy to be taken seriously?
take awayk the word only, replace it with one of the best and the answer is …
Yes.
Of topic but…
The outrageously politically correct NY Times substitutes “God” for “Allah” in bombing story so not to offend muslims..
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/terry-trippany/2007/08/22/ny-times-uses-god-when-referencing-airport-bombers-e-mail-saying-he-
There ARE chemicals in condoms, called spermicides, that do target the little tadpoles. And they are working on a male pill, last time I checked.
jasper…
god=allah….
PIP,
But the bomber used “Allah” in his quote.
One at a time! :)
TexasRed-
Why would anyone try to pretend that letting women make up their own minds and make their own decisions somehow is insulting to women?
And what about anything I said would even imply that I suggested that?
Anonymous-
So a woman can only ‘be herself’ if she wants to have children … and you really expect to be taken seriously –
Once again, what about anything I said would even vaguely imply that I even suggested that? I don’t believe all women want to be mothers, (and I think many women are better off not being mothers) but a vast majority of women ARE mothers, and yet society is unaccomodating of women that bear and raise children- and suggest that bearing and raising children is contrary to being successful and equal with men.
Pretty in Pink-
There ARE chemicals in condoms, called spermicides, that do target the little tadpoles. And they are working on a male pill, last time I checked.
But spermicides aren’t ingested and don’t interfere with male health and function the way oral contraceptives are (and you’ll note I didn’t imply that spermicides and diaphragms interfere with a woman’s natural health and functioning). My point was that the sheer number and complexity involved with all these female pills/shots/patches/rings demonstrate that women are expected to compromise our health whereas males are not, based on the main point I made which was the misogynistic belief that women must have access to things that sabotage their fertility to be “equal” to men.
Laura-
Society’s done just fine.
No it hasn’t. If you get pregnant as a freshman at a university, you either abort or drop out of school to raise your baby. Dorms won’t allow you to live there with a child and schools insist that freshmen live on campus or with parents within a certain radius. You can drop out of the university and attend junior college (and kiss that scholarship to the university goodbye), but either way higher education is not accomodating to pregnant and parenting students (hence the Elizabeth Cady Stanton Pregnant and Parenting Student Act that Feminists for Life lobbied for these past legislative sessions).
Childcare is also poorly subsidized and those daycares that take subsidies are often substandard. Average cost of infant childcare is $600/month. Imagine dropping out of college to have your baby, knowing that without an education your choices are limited and working simply to pay someone to watch your child. Makes abortion look tempting to someone that would rather choose life, but driven by desperation, women often crawl up in those stirrups.
TexasRed-
I find it hilarious that the only way women can ‘really be themselves’ is if they want to gestate and give birth. Being able to avoid pregnancy is somehow a ‘betrayal’ of our ‘femininity’. And you really expect this idiocy to be taken seriously?
Wow. You have a penchant for putting words in people’s mouths. Actually read what I wrote prior to commenting next time. It doesn’t imply that all women want to have children, but that women should be able to and not expected to harm their health in order to live in a man’s world.
It’s about women readily sabotaging their health and fertility and buying the lie that this is empowering and necessary for advancement. It’s not a condemnation of contraception as there are contraceptives that don’t hurt women’s health (spermicides, diaphragm, sponges (if those are still around). If you think chemicals and hormones are the only contraception for women, crawl out from under that rock.
Jacqueline,
If you think chemicals and hormones are the only contraception for women, crawl out from under that rock.
She can’t. Sunlight would turn her into dust.
She can’t. Sunlight would turn her into dust.
It’s Jacque! Horray!
Bethany, that is soooo cute! I e-mailed you. Did you get it?
But spermicides aren’t ingested and don’t interfere with male health and function the way oral contraceptives are
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Excuse me…
Oral contraceptives use progesterone to mimic pregnancy. Does pregnancy “interfere” with a woman’s health?
Oral contraceptives use progesterone to mimic pregnancy. Does pregnancy “interfere” with a woman’s health?
Never-ending, fake pregnancy certainly does! A hearty dose of first trimester hormones for years on end, weight gain, mood swings, etc. is horrible for the female body. And the progesterone causes the breast cells to change anticipating a baby that never comes, and hormones that never come to change those mutated cells into milk-producing ones. Those cells become cancer prone. And look- an epidemic of breast cancer!
Sorry for the multiple posts. There’s a delay. Whoops. :)
I totally agree about society’s nonacceptance of pregnant women in colleges and other establishments of higher education. This society makes it very hard and essentially separates the two.
Kinda off the topic question:
Thinking about joining students for life. Problem is, the president is this guy I really dont’ like. He’s a student senator that has cut funding for Amnesty and other human rights groups. And a lot of people I see doing things for them are people I might not agree with on other ideological issues. So..I”m not sure I’d enjoy it if I were to attend meetings with them.
Dilemma?
That is a toughy Pip.
Maybe there’s a group in a church (you prob don’t have to be a church goer) that you could try. Where are you located again? Maybe someone from there knows one.
You could always join and sort of do one job quietly off to the side. You’re never going to agree with everyone on every issue no matter where you go in life, but you’ll still have to learn how to get along.
And who knows…you might change your mind about some things. Or change theirs.
PrettyInPink-
I had a similar issue in college. I had a falling out with the pro-life group on my campus because of “creative differences.” They just wanted to be a pro-life presence while I wanted to do acts of service (and they were very intolerant of non-Christians and those that weren’t hardcore Republican and were always getting on debates about impertinent politics). So I did my own thing which included lobbying, volunteering at the Pregnancy Center, and working with Feminists For Life. I joined in for events with the pro-life group (debates, demonstrations) but spent most of the time on my own. It was a great choice for me. Maybe that’s an option for you?
PIP, see if there is a Dems for Life or Gay’s for Life in your area. They might fit better with your views on other things.
As for amnesty, well they now support abortion as a “human right”. I’m sure this is why your students for life no longer supports them.
From a women’s health website:
So what do we know about the health benefits of today’s pill? Let’s look at the facts. There’s more good news than you may think.
Birth control pills can help regulate your monthly period.
Women using the pill tend to have less bleeding and fewer cramps during their monthly periods. Some advantages of regular periods include a decrease in: midcycle pain, iron deficiency anemia, certain types of migraine headaches, and pre-menstrual tension syndrome (PMS). Regular periods can also allow you to plan vacations and work-related travel with confidence.
Birth control pills can provide relief from acne and facial hair.
Many women have acne throughout their reproductive years. Some have excess hair on their chins and upper lips. Birth control pills can help control the hormones that cause these problems.
Birth control pills can provide relief from symptoms of menopause.
The hormones in birth control pills can help ease the symptoms of menopause, such as hot flashes, night sweats and irregular monthly periods.
Birth control pills can strengthen your bones.
Studies show that by regulating hormones, the pill can help prevent osteoporosis, a gradual weakening of the bones which affects millions of American women.
Birth control pills may help protect you from cancer of the ovaries and womb.
Studies show that using the pill over a period of time may decrease the chance of cancer of the ovaries by 40% to 60% and cancer of the womb by 50%. Reproductive cancers (ovaries, womb, breast and cervix) result in about 70,000 deaths each year in the U.S.
Despite conflicting reports, most studies do not show that the pill causes breast cancer. Studies show that the pill greatly reduces benign breast disease or cysts on the breasts. The pill can also protect against cysts on the ovaries and pregnancies outside the womb, which can be life- threatening.
Some studies show that cervical cancer may be more common among women using birth control pills for more than five years, but evidence does not show that the pill causes this kind of cancer. In fact, researchers suggest that cervical cancer may be transmitted more like a sexually transmitted disease (STD). The steps you take to avoid STDs, such as using barrier contraceptives (condoms, diaphragms, etc.) and spermicides, can reduce your risk of cervical cancer. You should discuss your personal risks with your healthcare provider.
Birth control pills provide some protection against pelvic inflammatory disease (PID), a major cause of infertility among women.
PID is a general term for infections of the reproductive system. It is caused by bacteria primarily associated with STDs and can result in severe pelvic and stomach pain. If left untreated, it can also result in infertility. Birth control pills can help prevent bacteria from entering the womb and doing damage.
Birth control pills can help prevent pregnancy after sex.
Certain birth control pills, taken in high doses, can help prevent pregnancy up to 72 hours after unprotected sex. Sometimes called the “morning after” treatment, emergency contraception should be considered when a birth control method fails (for example, the condom broke) or is not used at all. Ask your healthcare provider for more information or call the Emergency Contraception Hotline at 800-584-9911.
I’m at school near St. Louis (start move in Friday!)
If there is an outside group, or even a Feminists for Life group that meets in that area it would be really nice!
I go to school near St. Louis. Are there any independent groups there?
whoops. Thought that first one didn’t go through.
PIP, yes, Amnesty International just went pro-abort, as Lauren said. Dems for Life is a good thought. Might suit you better. Or Feminists for Life. I think you’d really like them.
Thanks, guys. Will definatley check that out. If anyone lives near the STL area, would love to hear about opps.
I heard about the Amnesty thing, from what I know that not totally established yet.
Still, this guy has been cutting funding for a long time….long before they started conferencing about the abortion issue.
Oh, Jill,
Dems for Life (national) is sending letters to national Amnesty. Their primary way of causing change is letters…if they get enough they will probalby change.
I don’t think there are any dems for life/ fems for life on campus, as the college dems are about 1/2 to 1/4 the size of the college repubs…with about 1/2 of the funding.
so if there are any groups in the area..I would love to hear about the opportunities.
Thanks everyone :)
Also…my video is finally on youtube. It’s about 32 minutes…in 4 parts.
Part one starts here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7BPZPjZuzU
Remember, not child appropriate for obvious reasons.
Pip, LOL at your organized gang of spray painters!
Laura,
From which women’s website?
http://www.arhp.org/patienteducation/onlinebrochures/hbc/index.cfm?ID=281
Laura,
Thanks. People are funny about which sources they’ll accept. Guttmacher seems to be a fair one (even tho it’s PP lackey) because the pro-choice side uses them, and we recognize that while we don’t like what they do, they do it well. (did that make any sense? I must be getting tired.)
I realize that Guttmacher wouldn’t have been proper for that particular topic, I was just trying to show you an example of a source that was generally accepted by both sides…trust me, you won’t want to use PP as a source here…LOL
Hahaha, spermicide. My best friend used a condom with her boyfriend with spermicide. She broke out all over her lady parts the next couple days and was convinced he’d given her herpes or something. Turns out she’s just allergic to spermicide. Anyhow, they’re getting married in the next year. And by the way, I don’t think that women should be what they aren’t. But some women don’t have very feminine aspects. Some women don’t like or want children. I will ALWAYS support someone who wants to have a child the same way I will support someone who doesn’t. My best friend wants children someday. If she got pregnant now, I don’t know if she’d keep it or not. But I’d support her either way, because I love her. All I am trying to make clear is that if a woman wants to, sure she can balance a career and a family, school and a baby. It IS difficult, but sure, it’s possible. But if a person doesn’t WANT to, they should be free to make the choice.
Lauren,
you can’t make this stuff up ;)
Glad you enjoyed i!
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I find it hilarious that the only way women can ‘really be themselves’ is if they want to gestate and give birth. Being able to avoid pregnancy is somehow a ‘betrayal’ of our ‘femininity’. And you really expect this idiocy to be taken seriously?
take awayk the word only, replace it with one of the best and the answer is …
Yes.
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Thats idiocy. Trying to pretend that women cant really be happy and fulfilled unless they have children is an insult to every woman in the world who has lived a full happy life without motherhood.
If you think chemicals and hormones are the only contraception for women, crawl out from under that rock.
Posted by: Jacqueline at August 22, 2007 5:29 PM
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Why dont YOU quote ANYTHING in my comment which suggested I thought that. And you criticize me for putting words in someone elses mouth? Typical antichoice hypocricy –
Jacqueline,
If you think chemicals and hormones are the only contraception for women, crawl out from under that rock.
She can’t. Sunlight would turn her into dust.
Posted by: mk at August 22, 2007 5:43 PM
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What did YOU say about telling YOU if anyone was deliberately insulting and offensive? So hypocritical – and so predictable from an antichoicer.
I took birth control pills from the time I got married until we decided we wanted to start a family. I had no problems with the pill. We had our 8th wedding anniversary and our elder son was born 18 days later. I went back on the pill until we were ready for another child. While I was breast feeding we used alternative methods and I was miserable. Everything we tried made me feel like I’d been sandblasted. The pill etc. is a great choice for millions of women and is one of our most effective options. The antichoice attitude remains misogynistic. The antichoice attitude that there is something wrong with a woman who isnt ready to put her life on hold to continue a pregnancy is misogynistic. Trying to pretend its really ‘for our own good’ is insulting and offensive.
TR, why don’t you try talking TO people instead of always trying to force your beliefs down our throats? Even Laura was polite yesterday. So was Sally. You might want to try it too.
“Liberal misogynitis.”
Every time you bash liberals, you are rejecting your jesus and all of his liberal teachings and values..
“Does pregnancy “interfere” with a woman’s health?
It is statistically true that the complications of pregnancy can be harmful to a woman’s health..
in fact, more harmful than a legal abortion..
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5202a1.htm
“We’re discussing misogyny.”
You will find tons of misogyny and sexism right in the bible…
The dictionary defines a misogynist as “One who hates women.” It defines the word “sexist” as:
1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender
Is God a sexist?
Let’s look at the evidence. We find this in 1 Corinthians chapter 14:
As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
This seems like a straightforward passage. And God is the one who inspired the Bible. In Isaiah 40:8 God says that the word of the Lord will last forever, and he says the same thing again in 1 Peter 1:24-25. So here we have God, in his eternal and everlasting Word, saying that it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
This quote from 1 Corinthians 11 is important:
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Any man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled dishonors her head–it is the same as if her head were shaven. For if a woman will not veil herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her wear a veil. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. (For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.) That is why a woman ought to have a veil on her head, because of the angels.
You may find it hard to believe that something that confusing is in the Bible, yet if you look it up you will find it is there.
Then there is this section from 1 Timothy chapter 2:
Also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire but by good deeds, as befits women who profess religion. Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.
It is hard to miss God’s meaning when he says something as direct as, “I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.”
If you think about it, you will realize that God started this type of sexism at the very beginning of the Bible. In Genesis chapter 17 God says:
This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your descendants after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you.
God makes no mention of forming any sort of covenant with women.
There are many other examples that we can find in the Bible:
In Matthew 25:1 Jesus says: “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.”
In John 20:17 Jesus says to Mary: “Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father,” as though the touch of a woman is somehow improper, but a few verses later, is happy to have Thomas touch him.
In Genesis chapter 3, God punishes Eve, and all women for thousands of years, with greatly increased pain during childbirth. No such pain is inflicted on Adam.
In Ephesians 5:22-24 we find this: “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.”
In 1 Peter 3:7 we find: “Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.”
In 1 John 2:13, John says, “I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, dear children, because you have known the Father.” No mention is made of women.
And so on. There are many, many examples like these throughout the old and new testaments.
There are other, broader examples of misogyny that are readily apparent in the Bible as well:
Are any of Jesus’ disciples women? No.
Are any of the elders in the book of Revelation women? No.
Are any of the books of the Bible written by women? No.
Etc…
God, it would seem, wants nothing to do with women.
Keep in mind that the Bible’s misogyny has affected society for centuries. The United States constitution, for example, was originally drafted to specifically deny rights to women. Women could not even vote in the United States until 1920, and only then after decades of battle in the women’s suffrage movement.
If you think about it, you will realize that there is something quite odd about this situation. In spite of the fact that the Bible is supposed to be God’s eternal Word, modern human beings totally reject God’s sexism. Modern human beings completely ignore God:
We make women the CEOs of major corporations.
We elect women to high government offices.
We appoint women as presidents of universities.
We fill our schools with female teachers.
We allow women to speak freely in church.
The contradiction should be as obvious as a lighthouse here.
There is no ambiguity.
We do all of this in direct defiance of God’s Law in the Bible because we know God and his “eternal word” are completely wrong. We know that God is imaginary.
If God is going to take the time to write and publish “the Word of God,” why does the book contain so many problems?
Why isn’t each page of the Bible astonishing us with its brilliance and insight, and filling us with wonder?
Why, instead, does the Bible contain so much nonsense or, in this case, bigotry?
Why are Christians constantly having to justify, rationalize, excuse and explain the Bible? In this case, we find modern Christians trying to defend a God who obviously hates women on many different levels.
To any unbiased observer, the reason for sexism in the Bible is very easy to understand: The Bible was not written by a “all-knowing”, “all-loving”, “fully-enlightened” “god”. It was written by primitive men who were flagrant sexists. Just look at how men in primitive countries like Afghanistan treat women today. Those are the kind of men who wrote the Bible.
And we all know it — Christians and non-Christians alike. The reason why modern societies totally reject sexism is because we all know that the Bible’s sexism is completely contradictory and completely wrong.
It is exactly the same situation we see when Christians face slavery in the Bible. Christians and non-Christians alike reject the Bible’s teachings in these areas because the Bible is obviously wrong. The part that is profoundly strange is that, while completely rejecting these parts of the Bible, Christians will claim that other parts of the Bible are God’s word. They are blind to the obvious contradiction because of their utter delusion.
Once you break the delusion, it is completely obvious: God is imaginary.
X, I don’t want to hear it, because abortion always kills a baby. It’s never safe for a baby!
“X, I don’t want to hear it, because abortion always kills a baby. It’s never safe for a baby!”
No babies are ever killed during an abortion… a zygote, embryo or fetus is not a baby…
“Feminists for Life”
They are against women’s bodily autonomy, so how can they really be feminists??
X, you believe what you believe, and I will believe what I believe.
“X, you believe what you believe, and I will believe what I believe.”
That a fetus is not a baby is not a belief… it is a fact!
they are feminists because they believe that a woman’s choice shouldn’t be between pursuing her education and career plans and killing her child, fight for respect for women and reject violence and exploitation. They beilieve women deserve better choices.
go to http://feministsforlife.org/who/aboutus.htm for more information.
Laura,
I’m under deadlines but I’ll answer all of these I can right now. By the way, All those supposed “health benefits” are absolute BS, and even if they were true, they don’t off-set the health risks/problems of compromising an already delicate system.
Also important to note: Many of the benefits come from the natural benefits of a natural PREGNANCY which the fake pregnancy of a pill might provide in a minimum degree. Keep in mind that pregnancy are a series of hormones over 9 months, not one set of intial hormones of 9 YEARS or so.
Birth control pills can help regulate your monthly period.
No, they don’t. You will never have a real period on the pill. The pill doesn’t support a normal menstrual cycle with phases- it SUPRESSES it. Notice that women only have a “period” when they take sugar pills instead of the real pill. Because when the system isn’t suppressed, it will slough the endometrium it’s been suppressing rather than passing it naturally after hormones have indicated that you are not pregnant. (The pill tricks the body into thinking it’s eternally pregnant, remember?). In fact, if you never took the sugar pills and kept taking the chemicals/hormones, you’d never have bleed at all (except for spotting). This is the idea behind the “no period” birth control they are currently marketing. Also note that large doses of contraceptives like the depo shot often result in no periods for the length of the time the chemicals are in the body. So, no, you are not regulating and irregular period with the pill. You’re not fixing something abnormal with the pill. You’re further breaking something that already works.
Birth control pills can provide relief from acne and facial hair.
By sabotaging normal hormones! When hormones flunctuate natural, as in a normal menstrual cycle, sometimes acne and facial hair result. But that is normal and will regulate itself with age. And besides, if a healthy cardiovascular system or lymphatic system or gastrointestinal system caused pesky acne or facial hair, I wouldn’t compromise their healthy functioning because of it. I’d continue to invest in ProActiv (which I use) and let my body remain healthy. How foolish is it to damage your health for asthetic reasons! “Yeah, I have congestive heart failure but at least I have a great complexion!”
Studies show that by regulating hormones, the pill can help prevent osteoporosis, a gradual weakening of the bones which affects millions of American women.
Once again, the pill doesn’t “regulate” a thing, but imposes a set of hormones that are only supposed to occur in the body when the body is pregnant which concludes in varying intensities until birth and is followed by additional hormones to allow breastfeeding and recovery. Even women who miscarry naturally often do so because of a deficiency of hormones, which is a natural, gradual decline rather than a “dose” of hormones each day.
I’ll take on the rest, as well as the impertinent blasphemies, at a later time.
They are against women’s bodily autonomy, so how can they really be feminists??
Unborn women deserve bodily autonomy! I didn’t want to be poisoned, mutilated or dismembered any more before I was born than I do now.
X, it is NOT a fact.
Something I wrote about the importance of a normal female menstrual cycle and those of us that have struggled with female ailments:
I had endometriosis since I was 14 till my early 20s and was told I didn’t have options but the pill. To this day, endometriosis and Poly-Cystic Ovarian Syndrome are treated almost exclusively with the pill. At 14, I took the pill and suffered mood swings, weight gain, etc. Had I known better, I would have refused especially since I was still growing and developing to sexual maturity and adding hormones to that mix is extremely foolish. My mother ended up taking me off the pill relatively quickly because of my adverse effects.
But this highlights another injustice of the pill towards women: Because we have contraception which has an unintended side effect of provided relief to the pain women with real ailments have, no medications and treatments are created or offered that provide REAL treatments that address the actual problem.
One of the reasons why I hate chemical contraception so much is because it’s hard to diagnose normal and abnormal female reproductive health when we introduce all these abnormal chemicals and hormones. A period is kind of a thermometer that tells women about their cycle, if they’re pregnant, etc. If we don’t get the period, it’s a sign something may be wrong- like a being underweight, having a calcium deficiency, endometriosis or PCOS. Sadly, gynos don’t actually “treat” women like with such ailments with real medication, but give us a pill that jacks with our system because the “side effects” provide relief to the pain caused by our conditions. What a cop-out! We don’t get research or medication for the actual problem, we are told that we have to be a slave to a daily pill (basically a chemical dependency) or suffer the wrath of our ailments. And what happens if we desire to get pregnant or suffer other conditions that don’t allow us to take the pill? Those women are written off.
There are doctors that actually treat these diseases rather than give you a analgesic that makes you feel better but doesn’t address the issue. I was lucky to find one and I am doing wonderfully. But most women will just accept the pill and it’s health risks and consequently, no real treatments will be developed.
X, I’m happy that you have shown us you know the skill of copying and pasting large articles. Now, let me refute your copy and paste with a copy and paste of my own.
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Let Your Women Keep Silence in the Churches.
Thank you, Bethany! I know we hate to indulge such hateful ranters in debate, but certain attacks can’t go unanswered.
As a woman that is both beloved of and delighted in by God who has an intense personal relationship with Him, I laugh that anyone can suggest that God despises the femininity He created in me. He treasures that.
Besides, look at Jesus’ treatment of women in a time where women were oppressed. Cut and paste out of context all one pleases, you can’t mistake that Jesus loved and respected women.
Oh Bethany,
I’m in awe…
Thanks!
Jacqueline, I am learning a lot from your posts. Thank you for taking the time.
Bethany, thank you for refuting the “God is a misogynist” claim. If people only understood He is exactly the opposite. Women, after all, comprise half His image. We display unique characteristics of HIM.
Perhaps even the “best” characteristics of HIM!
And let’s not forget His mother…most revered woman in history.
Plus, he has allowed us to cooperate in the act of creation in a way men will never be able to. What could be nobler than carrying a human life, all snug and warm, inside of you. Creators, just like Him.
Jacqueline(by the way, I might have posted this twice, computer is being a bit sketchy…)
“By the way, All those supposed “health benefits” are absolute BS, and even if they were true, they don’t off-set the health risks/problems of compromising an already delicate system”
I posted this point in another thread, but please don’t claim that there are no real health benefits in oral contraceptives. As Laura said, they are a hugely preventitive measure against ovarian cancer. I won’t argue the other points, as I don’t feel informed enough on the subject, but I do know that this is one great benefit from this medication. I would like to know what health risks or problems you find great enough to offset the benefits of such an untreatable cancer. I don’t think anyone here is arguing oral contraceptives are perfect, but there are some benefits to it, which I just wish you would recognize.
Jacqueline(by the way, I might have posted this twice, computer is being a bit sketchy…)
“By the way, All those supposed “health benefits” are absolute BS, and even if they were true, they don’t off-set the health risks/problems of compromising an already delicate system”
I posted this point in another thread, but please don’t claim that there are no real health benefits in oral contraceptives. As Laura said, they are a hugely preventitive measure against ovarian cancer. I won’t argue the other points, as I don’t feel informed enough on the subject, but I do know that this is one great benefit from this medication. I would like to know what health risks or problems you find great enough to offset the benefits of such an untreatable cancer. I don’t think anyone here is arguing oral contraceptives are perfect, but there are some benefits to it, which I just wish you would recognize.
Ah, it did post twice-my apologies!
That a fetus is not a baby is not a belief… it is a fact!
Nope – it’s no more a fact that stating, “The fetus is a baby.” It’s in the eye of the beholder.
Saying “is” or “is not” isn’t a meaningful argument in the context of the abortion debate.
Doug