We talk a lot about displays of graphic photos of aborted babies, but have you actually driven by one? Missionaries to the Preborn added this video to YouTube today, a simple, unnarrated, 3-minute drive-by of a just-completed Tour in OH:
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Wow. This, to me, seems an effective way of using the graphic images on the street. Thanks for posting!
What a great idea!
I think I’ll get a bunch of pictures of people like Evan Stone and Jenna Jameson MAKING babies and post them along the street where your kids can see them!
Don’t you want your kids to see images of people having a good time engaging in procreation?
I think some nice, positive porn would be an introduction to real life.
“Hey kids, this is how Mommy and Daddy got YOU! Isn’t it wonderful and natural, just the way god intended!?”
I met Jenna. Beautiful woman!
I think I’ll get a bunch of pictures of people like Evan Stone and Jenna Jameson MAKING babies and post them along the street where your kids can see them!
So are you saying that you think sex should be a crime?
Bethany, LOL!
So are you saying that you think sex should be a crime?
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No! I just think that if these people want to give other people’s children a graphic introduction to reality, then I should do the same.
It’s my civic duty!
Well do it then! Who’s stoppin ya?
No! I just think that if these people want to give other people’s children a graphic introduction to reality, then I should do the same.
It’s my civic duty!
You go, Girl! Go right ahead!
I think the cops might disapprove though.
Once again, posting those pictures on the street for innocent children and the faint of heart to see is NOT the appropriate place. Show them at you rallies. Don’t scar someone to get your message across.
Would ANY of you want your child under the age of nine exposed to these pictures?
You go, Girl! Go right ahead!
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Cool! I’ll show your kids these pics, too:
http://irregulartimes.com/dead.html
After all, they ARE real life…
It is reality. I don’t object.
Heather:
Most cops do disagree with y’all posting those pictures. But they cant infringe on your right to freedom of speech. They think people who post those pictures should have more integrity & decency to know better, but alas, some don’t.
Laura:
I see where you are going with that, but don’t stoop to their level. Those pictures are distasteful and tacky. Not to mention, shouldn’t be shown in public either.
Hi midnite! Laura, if you want to go and show your pictures somewhere, I suggest you DO it. It IS America.
Oh my God, Laura. That is the most devastating thing I’ve ever seen in my life. I am in tears right now.
Supporters of the war: do you seriously think the ends justify the means? LOOK AT THOSE POOR CHILDREN!
Hello Heather!
Leah: Does the ends justify the means? Most of the time no.
But dont forget what their “Government” did to their own people.
And dont forget that children were killed on 9/11 as well. Or do those children not count?
Leah, how can you ask that question when you see pictures of aborted children and do not care at all?
Do you not see how strange it is that you feel compassion on those children, and not the children who are willingly aborted by their own mothers?
Bethany, great question! midnite, good point!
Awwww, Heather, you’re gunna make me all teary eyed
::wink::
midnite: I know that the government was horrible before, but it hasn’t improved any. Sure, in theory they have a well-run system, but truthfully, they are hardly better off. Of course, I can’t speak for them, but it is just from what I have read.
Bethany: Firstly, because I am not against abortion. I can see how you would see my position as strange, but that is because we have very different opinions.
The children in those pictures had families and friends who knew them and loved them. They had likes and dislikes and a favorite song and a favorite class at school. Living, breathing, healthy, beautiful children until their lives were cut short or horribly altered in the most cruel way.
:wink back:
Midnite, And dont forget that children were killed on 9/11 as well. Or do those children not count?
That really is a good point.
midnite: Forgot to say–of course they count too. I’m not saying that the US government is the only evil in the world.
You know Leah, you shouldn’t believe everything you read. I know that is a modest concept to embrace. But “bad news” from Iraq sells more papers than “good news” from Iraq. I have many friends over there right now, and there have been countless people come up to them and thank them for what our Country did for them. I hate to sound harsh, but if you think America is that evil honey, then move.
And our Country is not NEAR as evil as Hussein was. We don’t murder thousands of people by poisonous gases b/c they disagree with the way the Government is run. We have that right protected. You the right to bitch how our country is run (if you vote), but over there if you did; You, and your whole family was murdered. Go ahead and see what a country like that is like. Wanna move to Cuba?
Midnite, And dont forget that children were killed on 9/11 as well. Or do those children not count?
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What the hell does that have to do with the war in Iraq? We went in there because of the weapons of mass destruction, remember?
midnite: Oh, I know. I try to read from sources as neutral as possible (VERY hard to come by). I don’t want you to think that I just swallow everything people tell me.
Um, you don’t need to take anything I say personally. I think the American government is corrupt, but I think just about every gov’t in the world is. I will NEVER be in favor of this war, no matter how many people thank your friends. For heaven’s sake, I never said anything against American troops!
I am moving, love. Just have to decide where to. In a year I’ll be out of here for good.
Seriously. Calm down.
I didn’t say that it had to do with Iraq Laura. Way to make an assumption though.
Children were killed on 9/11 in America b/c of a war.
Children are killed in Iraq b/c of a war.
Wars split families up and kill innocent people, they’re not supposed to be pretty and smell of roses.
midnite, RIGHT ON!
Laura, your pictures are no less heartbreaking than pictures of aborted children. I see no difference.
Here, let’s show your kids what’s going on in the Sudan – it makes Saddam look like small potatoes:
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=230238154&size=o
Leah,
I am calm. And you have to understand why I take the war personally. I have over a dozen friends over there right now fighting. They are sacrificing their lives for the Iraqi people. They get discouraged and don’t want to fight “as hard” when they hear about how everyone is bitching about the war. If they don’t fight as hard, the run the risk of getting themselves blown the fu$% up.
You’re not going to find a better Country than America though. Not if you want the freedom to bitch about the country or the freedom to vote and fix the problem.
Laura:
Children dont need to see any of those pictures honestly.
And you do know that I am pro choice correct??
Laura, your pictures are no less heartbreaking than pictures of aborted children. I see no difference.
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You can’t discern the difference between vaccuumed tissue and a suffering child?
Issues…
Laura, that picture just broke my heart too.
Heather:
I dont think you’ve ever cheered me on before!
I shall open a bottle of the “bubbly” to celebrate.
Honestly, you don’t need to take anything personally, but I’m not going to preach to you my personal philosophies. Holier-than-thou is very unattractive to me, so I never discuss personal philosophies with people unless I know them very closely.
Obviously, you and I disagree. I think I’ll have no problem finding a better country. Lots of countries in the world have the freedom of speech and the right to vote, if that’s your criteria.
midnite, By all means do! * pop! *
And you do know that I am pro choice correct??
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Oh yeah.
I just have an aneurysm anytime I think someone’s about to link the war in Iraq with 9/11.
Everytime our Commander-in-Chimp does it I have to throw stuff at the TV.
(It’s hot. I’ll have a beer and quit whining at you.)
Laura: I’ve seen that picture before. It’s absolutely horrifying.
midnite: I do agree. Children shouldn’t have to look at these photos–any of them. I don’t think they should be displayed in public places. Freedom of speech, I know… but we’ve got to have our limits.
Leah:
I completely agree. No child should see any of the pictures above while strolling down the street or on the way to school, etc.
midnite, you there?
Yes mam, I am. What’s up??
midnite, gotta run to work. Just had an off topic question for you.
well, really quick, what is it?
I am going out of town tonight an wont be back until Monday..
Okay, maybe you don’t know the answer, but do you know the trick to applying liquid eye liner so it won’t smear? I was tryin to put some on b4 work.
gotta run. midnite, have a safe trip!
Well, I don’t really like liquid eyeliner b/c it does smear and is hard to apply correctly. I use gel eyeliner. It wont smudge (even if you cry) and is easy as pie to put on. I prefer Bobby Brown Gel Eyeliner: http://www.bobbibrowncosmetics.com/templates/products/sp_shaded.tmpl?CATEGORY_ID=CATEGORY2751&PRODUCT_ID=PROD1109
It is a little expensive, but you don’t use a lot so you don’t go through it quick. I bought my last bottle in December of 06, and I still have a third of a bottle left. So it’s well worth the money :-)
I’m torn about these displays. We had one here in OH (I’ll leave out the city for privacy reasons) during their tour. I work for the local pregnancy center and our clients passed this display on the way to see us. One client in particular was coming for an ultrasound. She had an abortion a few years ago and it was a very traumatic experience for her. She was very glad to be pregnant and earlier had said she felt God was giving her a second chance. When we did the scan it revealed that she did not have a viable pregnancy. It was either ectopic or there was no baby present in the sac. She miscarried several days later and my heart just broke for her. It must have been very very painful for her to see these aborted babies in this state of mind she was in. It must have been like darts right at her heart and making her feel like she deserved to have a miscarriage.
Midnite,
Would ANY of you want your child under the age of nine exposed to these pictures?
Posted by: midnite678 at August 17, 2007 2:36 PM
You keep asking and I keep telling you…My kids have been going with me on these tours since they were infants. Joe Scheidler’s (see picture in sidebar-guy in the hat) kids have also been exposed to these pictures since they were infants. Now his kids are all grown up and taking over Dad’s job. Eric, his son, also has children who have grown up holding these signs. His oldest Nathan (12?) helped run the last tour… That’s 3 generations of Scheidler’s…and they are all amazing people.
So the answer is “not only would I let them see these images, I would encourage it, and mine already have…
Laura,
I often paste pictures like yours on my refrigerator. I want my children to know how good they have it. I want them to understand that others do not have it so well. I will show my little ones the pictures you linked to. I want my children to be strong and to face the horrors of the world head on so that they won’t be part of the problem but part of the solution. I’m not afraid of evil. I detest it, but I’m not afraid of it. And I don’t want my children to be either. I want them to know that there are things they can do to make the world better, not worse. So far, it’s working…I’ll let you know if one of them turns out to be a serial killer.
Have I mentioned my son that lives in California? For a very small fee…never mind.
this is weird,
but I am like those pictures … very distressing to some (one lady would not rent her apartment to me because I made her weak heart feel bad!) … then I’m reminded of the prophet Isaiah talking about Suffering Servant … “so disfigured did he look … people hid their gaze.” Do we teach kids that it is OK to turn away and not look at life’s harsh realities? [A motorcycle rammed into the back of a school bus, the horrified kids began to laugh at all the blood.]
Or should they wait to become older (more physically strong … [& wonder about how good looking the man is who tossed his wife over the railing of their apartment house … like the kids do we seek distraction from horror?). so that now the images of abortion can be called ‘fake’ …. after all, out-of sight = out-of-mind.
Just stop the news, this is a lah-dee-dah life … do people have to put my nose in sh** before I can smell it? ….. guess so! that’s why these pics … how else to learn and stop THE SLAUGHTER?
John, what a terrible story about discrimination and the land lady. She sounds like a real winner…….*sarcasm*
I’m sorry, I have held my tongue on this, but I just do NOT agree with these signs. I have worked extremely hard to give my children a sense of security and safety in their lives. Two of my children were essentially abandoned by their mother and had a very rocky start to life. At this early, impressionable age they do not need the idea that their mother could have murdered them in the womb pressed into their minds.
Abortion is a horrible, sickening thing, and knowing that it exists along with other horrors against children makes it hard for ME to sleep at night and I am an adult. I do not want my children’s security destroyed by such an abrupt and horrific introduction to the concept of mothers — those who are meant to love and protect — murdering their own children.
It’s one thing to show these images amongst adults or to show them to your own children, but you have no right to show them to my children. You aren’t the one who will be up with their nightmares in the middle of the night and dealing with their shaken psyches for the rest of their lives.
Michelle,
As I tell the people who stop us on the street…I don’t want to hold these signs either, and I long for the day when my children live in a world where these signs are no longer necessary.
Unfortunately, that time is not now. We do post warning signs before you get to the posters. If you want to be angry, be angry at the folks who make these images possible. ie: the abortionists.
It’s not that I don’t understand what you are saying…it’s just that this is a war. A full out war and as in any war there are casualties. Hiding the casualties is not protecting your children as much as it is giving you the illusion that you are protecting your children. To really protect them, we need to put an end to abortion.
If you were in Iraq or Israel you would be seeing not just pictures of dead children, but actual dead children. And while this would be horrible, you’re not liking it would not make the dead bodies go away. It’s reality. Abortion exists because of people hiding behind words like “choice” and “autonomy” and “rights” and “feminism” when the truth is much more terrifying.
Every time I hold a sign of baby Malachi, I thank him for joining us in our battle and I am grateful that his little life, short tho it was, was not in vain. His picture has changed countless hearts and minds. But as in any war, innocent bystanders will get hurt. I’m sorry if your children are some of those bystanders. At least their pictures aren’t on the posters we are displaying. They are alive to “see” the horror. Not the best scenario, but better than the alternative. Who knows, their mother could be one of the ones that “changed her mind” and that’s why they are alive today.
Some child is out there right now, walking around, because his mother saw one of our pictures. Isn’t that worth it?
Michelle re;signs. I am divided. I really think it’s a good thing, but I would worry about a squeamish person becoming sick while driving.Not all of us can handle it. I have a cast iron stomach, but when I bought my first book on the holocaust, I almost threw up looking @ those pics. I simply wasn’t prepared. However, I think the pics are just fine @ the rallies. We had a pro choicer who argued that anyone who would allow their kid to hold up a bloody baby sign must have bad parents. Well, then why do they allow their kiddies to attend PC/PL rallies, knowing that those pics will be there? Are they bad parents too?
MK, on the other hand, the pictures show the reality of abortion! To fully understand what the Jews went through, I had to buy a few books. The pics were the most powerful! I attend the March for Life in DC, and I do carry my sign with pride!
One more thing. I don’t find it very appropriate that kids on the PC side have to hold up signs that say…..Keep your Bush out of Mine.
Heather, MK & Everyone:
Just so you know, I will never allow my child to hold up any PC sign or PL sign (I plan to let my child chose the side he/she wants to be on). I am a firm believer in choice. When they are old enough, I will set him or her down and explain the facts of life. I will fully educate him or her on abortion and say look at the facts, research the issue on your own, and decide if you think it is right or wrong.
That is what my parents did with me growing up. They presented facts from both sides and let memake a decision. They did this with, abortion, gay rights (including civil union & marriages), an other political issues. Now then, I differ a lot with them on opinions, but they are proud and happy that I came to that conclusion on my own. Now with that said, we have many verbal battles about gay marriages (I belive they have the same right as a heterosexual couple), and they believe only a civil union. My father told me once, that I am a great debater (& it is sad I wil not be going to law school), and I had opened his eyes a little more.
Isnt that what everyone wants for their children. To make their decisions, make a choice, but get there on their own without coersion?
“Isnt that what everyone wants for their children. To make their decisions, make a choice, but get there on their own without coersion?”
No, God no….
Jasper,
You’re on a roll…I certainly hope my children don’t make their decisions without my input…I hope I have influenced the heck out of them. I hope they “choose” the right values. Not the values that make their lives easier!
Yes, I agree MK…
I don’t know if you saw or not Jasper, but earlier (on a post that is long since gone) I threw you a bone for doing such a good job debating with Doug and friends…
Score one for Jasper…
MK, I understand your feelings that these signs can save lives, but so can ultrasound photos which aren’t going to give anyone nightmares. While we do have a responsibility to do all we can to save unborn children, I’m afraid that my responsibility to my children comes first. For example, I could put them all into daycare so I could spend 8 hours a day volunteering in a crisis pregnancy center, and possibly help many people, but I would be hypocritical to sacrifice the well-being of my own children that way. I suppose if the ONLY two choices were graphic signs or abortion, I’d choose the signs, but that’s a false dilemma. There are other options.
BTW, like Heather I don’t have a problem with the signs at events that are specifically addressing the abortion issue. I can easily avoid taking my children to such rallies. It’s the random signs on the street or on the sides of trucks I have problems with.
Midnight:
“Isnt that what everyone wants for their children. To make their decisions, make a choice, but get there on their own without coersion?”
Absolutely not. To want this assumes that all choices are equally moral, which in essences makes nothing moral. To paraphrase Samuel Johnson, if a man thinks there is no difference between virtue and vice, let us count our spoons before he leaves our houses. If stealing and not stealing are equally valid, then not stealing is merely a personal preference, not a moral decision. The same goes for all other matters of morality such as abortion, homosexuality, etc. If all my children glean from my parenting is to “make their own choices,” then I have utterly failed and wasted my time.
My husband wanted to add that this is not a war against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph. 6:12) We can fight this war on our knees (quite effectively) without ever risking making innocent children casualties of a war fought to protect the same. It is a bitter victory won by destroying the hearts and minds of children.
“I don’t know if you saw or not Jasper, but earlier (on a post that is long since gone) I threw you a bone for doing such a good job debating with Doug and friends…”
MK, yes I did, I chewed it up already, woof!
Why We Show The Bloody Photographs
Of The Murdered Preborn
?A picture is worth a thousand words.?
In this case however, it is worth much more. Approximately 1.2 million preborn babies are murdered by abortion every year in America. An atrocity of this magnitude must not remain hidden. These photographs expose the suffering of the preborn child.
Many people ask us,
“Why do you show those sickening, bloody pictures?”
Let us briefly explain our purpopse for displaying the photographs.
Second Trimester Abortion
According to CDC statistics, about 120,000 preborn babies are killed this trimesster each year.
Third Trimester Abortion
According to CDC statistics, about 24,000 preborn babies are killed during this trimester each year.
Ending Censorship
We display these photographs because the media has censored the preborn child from the “abortion debate?. The American press refuses to show the American people what these babies look like who are dying in the womb. We are simply attempting to bypass that media blackout by going to the streets and displaying these photographs.
Now the American people can see for themselves exactly what a preborn child looks like after he or she has been in the hands of an abortionist. Most believe the myth that abortion is just the removal of some benign tissue. These photographs expose just how mythical such thinking is.
The displaying of these photographs reveals to this nation that a great holocaust is going on in our midst, that our indifference towards it must cease, and that we must act on behalf of those who are oppressed.
Faithful to Christ
We also display these photographs to inform our nation that it has violated God’s Law, and to therefore call it’s people to repentance. Our photographs stand as a haunting indictment upon our nation.
Some say our photos are disgusting and hurt our Christian witness. Our response: have you ever seen a pretty picture of a murder? Murder is disgusting; abortion is murder; therefore, our pictures are disgusting. Beyond that, what hurts our Christian witness more – being silent while our neighbor is unjustly killed or exposing the atrocities being committed against our neighbor (Ephesians 5:11)? We think the former.
What a pathetic people we are if we want to tolerate the oppression of an entire people group, but then become outraged at someone who displays the suffering of that people group.
Jesus taught, ?Love your neighbor as yourself.? If we were in the position of our preborn neighbor threatened with an unjust death, we would hope someone would speak up for us, so we speak up for them.
It is important to note that the displaying of these photographs has saved many preborn babies from death by abortion and have spared many women and men the grief of having aborted their own son or daughter.
Historical Precedents
There are many historical precedents for displaying such photographs. Just as we have seen photographs of lynched black men, Jewish corpses, and lifeless Vietnamese children, so we need to look at the frozen, horrid images of preborn babies torn from their mother?s wombs.
At the end of WW II, our American soldiers marched the citizens of Germany past the remains of those who died in the death camps. They marched men, women, and children past the remains of those who died in the death camps. Why did they do it? Because those citizens all stood guilty for having tolerated the atrocities that went on in their midst. So it is in America today, we all stand guilty for being silent while this atrocity goes on in our nation.
Matthew Brady, the famed Civil War photographer, took and displayed many photographs of the war dead. In 1862, the New York Times wrote the following about Brady?s photographs:
The dead of the battlefield come up to us very rarely, even in dreams. We see the list in the morning paper at breakfast, but dismiss its recollection with the coffee. We recognize the battlefield as reality, but it stands as a remote one. It is like a funeral next door. It attracts your attention, but it does not enlist your sympathy. But it is very different when the hearse stops at your own door and the corpse is carried over your own threshold. Mr. Brady has done something to bring us the terrible reality and earnestness of the war. If he has not brought bodies and laid them in our dooryards and along our streets, he has done something very like it.
So our photos have brought you ?the terrible reality and earnestness? of abortion.
Our prayer is that people would be moved with compassion for the helpless preborn when they see these photographs and act to see this bloodshed outlawed. Otherwise, God will use His sword of justice and bring retribution upon a nation of people whose hands are covered with blood.
-When something is so horrifying we can?t stand to look at it, perhaps we shouldn?t be tolerating it.-
God created you for a purpose.
The purpose He created you for is to live to glorify Him, and enjoy Him forever. Most people never realize this purpose in their lives however, because they squander their lives on their own self-centered pursuits.
Jesus said, “Whoever desires to come after Me, let him take up his cross and follow Me. For whosoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it.”
God makes it clear in His Word that a man must repent (turn from) his sin and put faith (believe) in Jesus Christ in order to obtain forgiveness of his sins and come to right-standing with God. Only then will you be able to realize God’s purpose for your life.
To learn more about this important matter, visit the following websites:
http://www.needgod.com or http://www.mercyseat.net
Pastor Matt Trewhella
That’s all very nice except that it completely ignores the question of why it’s ok to destroy the security and well-being of innocent children, especially when those children and their parents are already pro-life, when other methods can be just as and even MORE effective.
Unless you think signs are more effective than prayers, that is.
You need to remember that no matter how justified you think this is, these are not YOUR children. They are MY children, and it should be MY right to decide when and how they are exposed to abortion.
Matthew 18:6, which I often hear quoted in regards to the unborn, refers to born children as well.
Yes, Michelle, you’re absolutely right.
I always felt it was a tad bit hypocritical that people would loudly complain about how much sex and violence their children were exposed to on network tv, and then turn around and parade around graphic images of aborted fetii for all to see, sometimes even with their children in tow.
Also, I don’t believe you should make your children into activists for anything. They should be kept at home or out of the way during rallies or demonstrations until they are old enough to understand the issues fully and have their own opinions about them. It sickens me when I see the Westboro people making their small children carry those hateful signs, when they don’t know what they mean or why they anger people, they only know what their parents have told them to say, but they don’t understand what it means.