Turn, turn turn – from the Aurora Planned Parenthood mill
Here’s another photo montage of Saturday’s protest, formally called the Jericho March, at the Aurora Planned Parenthood abortion mill.
This little video has a 60s psychodelic edge to it with well done graphics work. It appears the “new media” role pro-lifers have had to assume, since MSM supports abortion, is growing not just to encompass journalism but also to bump up against liberal Hollywood with our own creative documentaries. Starting small, but who knows? www.fightingirishthomas.net made this one:
[HT: reader Mike]
Sep.17, 2007 6:32 am |
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
It appears the “new media” role pro-lifers have had to assume, since MSM supports abortion, is growing not just to encompass journalism but also to bump up against liberal Hollywood with our own creative documentaries.
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Oh, pleeeeeeeeeeeease-
“MSM supports abortion?” “Liberal Hollywood?”
Your own beloved World Net Daily is hosting the big Republican “Values Debate” tonight.
Not only couldn’t the sponsors find a legitimate network to cover it, all the major Republican players – Giuliani, Romney, McCain, and Thompson – have decided to skip it.
This will be the first 2008 presidential debate I will have missed, and that’s because I don’t get either Sky Angel or Dish networks.
CSPAN dropped the January “March for Life” this year. It had nothing to do with liberal or conservative values, and everything to do with free-market capitalism. Nobody’s interested.
Why hasn’t FOX covered this debate if it’s such a draw for Conservatives? Why aren’t any viable Republicans going to show up?
There is plenty of MSM bias according to the MSM. 1. Lisa Myers of NBC”Some of the stories I have read or seen have almost seemed like cheerleading for the prochoice cause.”(Oregonian,8/06/90) 2.Ethan Bronner of the Boston Globe”I think when abortion opponents complain about a bias in newsrooms against their cause,they’re absolutely right.”(Us News and World Reports(7/16/90)
Straight from the MSM- 1.Lisa Myers from NBC News,”Some of the stories I have read or seen have almost seemed like cheerleading for the prochoice side.”(Oregonian 8/06/90) 2.Ethan Bronner of the Boston Globe,”I think that when abortion opponents complain about a bias in newsrooms against their cause, they’re absolutely right.”(US News and World Reports,7/16/90)
Sorry about the double post. I didn’t think the first one posted.
What do you expect them to say, “People are protesting because PP is KILLEN TEH BABIEZ!!!!”?
That would be biased. But it would be biased to your favor and thus “fair and balanced” (In the same way Fox News is “fair and balanced”)
calling it “choice” is biased to your favor, unless of course we were to ask you if you think it was biased, then we would get a big fat NO.
You didn’t address my point that members of the MSM admit to bias or at least the possibility that it exists. By the way, I don’t watch Fox News, but I think I’ll start on your glowing recommendation.
More examples of media bias- 1.Richard Harwood of the Washington Post(on paper’s coverage of a prolife event)”This affair has left a blot on the paper’s reputation.” 2. David Shaw of the LA Times,”Abortion opponents are often described as militant or stident. Such characterizations are seldom used to describe abortion-rights advocates,many of whom can be militant or strident-or both” The LA Times mandates that its writers use the terms prochoice and antiabortion. The prolife are referred to using a negative term while the other side is referred to using a positvie term(pro). If the LA Times wasn’t biased, then why would they mandate those specific words????
Calling pro choicers pro choice is biased?
Carrie, I’m sure they could drum up a few neo cons at CNN that are dissatisfied that the network doesn’t spend the majority of their time kissing the GOP’s a$$.
Likewise I would think Alan Colmes (the one Democrat allowed to work for Fox News) cries himself to sleep at night thinking that people like Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly can pass their drivel off as “fair and balanced”.
calling it “choice” is biased to your favor
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How so?
People who want abortions CHOOSE to have them, and plunk down their cash for the privilege.
People who don’t want abortions CHOOSE not to have one.
Why would the expression “choice” be inappropriate?
Possibly because they don’t want to have to explain why some of these staunch “pro-lifers” also support the war so fervently.
I don’t support the war. By the way, why not refer to the “prochoice” crowd as pro abortion instead? That’s right, the pro”choice” crowd wants to live in denial about the consequences of the choice to have an abortion.
People who want abortions CHOOSE to have them, and plunk down their cash for the privilege.
People who don’t want abortions CHOOSE not to have one.
Why would the expression “choice” be inappropriate?
Yes, you’re right, Laura.
Also, I suppose in order to be PC , we should also call rapists, murderers, thieves, etc “pro-choice”.
Because people who want to rape, CHOOSE to rape, and people who don’t want to rape, CHOOSE not to.
and people who want to murder, CHOOSE to rape, and people who don’t want to murder, CHOOSE not to.
and people who want to steal, CHOOSE to steal, and people who don’t want to steal, CHOOSE not to.
Why should the expression choice be inappropriate in any of those cases then?
Great point Bethany!!!! How about calling the people who CHOOSE to engage in genocide in Darfur prochoice. How about calling drunk drivers pro choice. After all, they CHOOSE to drink and drive. Actually, let’s abolish all laws that infringe on any personal CHOICE. Who cares if others are harmed in the process, right pro-choicers?
When people murder, rape and steal they impose their “Chioce” on an unwilling victim who CHOSE not to participate.
There are no victims in a successful abortion.
I guess you can’t call yourself pro-life if you believe in the death penalty, support the war, eat burgers, or have ever taken an antibiotic.
When people murder, rape and steal they impose their “Chioce” on an unwilling victim who CHOSE not to participate.
There are no victims in a successful abortion.
I guess you can’t call yourself pro-life if you believe in the death penalty, support the war, eat burgers, or have ever taken an antibiotic.
I am pro-killing animals to make my food, yes, Laura. And I’m not ashamed to admit it.
There is a victim in every single “successful” abortion, and 2 victims in every “unsuccessful” abortion.
And Laura, I’m more than happy with just sticking to the term “anti-abortion”, if you’d rather not call me pro-life, since you feel it doesn’t efficiently describe my position.
Thanks, Carrie! :)
Actually Bethany there are two victims in every successful abortion. The mothers just don’t realize they are puppets in a spiritual war. If there is a father involved, then there are three victims. And let’s not forget the doctors, nurses, etc., grandparents and society…oh yeah. Numerous victims for every successful abortion. Numerous!
You’re right, MK. I should have specified that it was “murder” victims, not just victims.
Actually Bethany there are two victims in every successful abortion. The mothers just don’t realize they are puppets in a spiritual war.
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Women aren’t bright enough to make their own reproductive choices?
I guess if you are too stupid to own and operate your own uterus, then you’re WAY too stupid to have kids. People that stupid shouldn’t have access to car keys and flammable liquids.
The mothers just don’t realize they are puppets in a spiritual war.
I guess if you are too stupid to own and operate your own uterus, then you’re WAY too stupid to have kids
Interesting how you got the first statement from the second statement…
But yeah, now that you mention it, many women are way to immature and impulsive, self-serving and short-term thinking, immediate gratification seeking and morally inept to have kids. I’d agree with that.
As for flammable liquids…
I’m not alone in thinking there are some people too stupid to be trusted with them…
Flammable Liquids
Combustible and flammable materials are often the source of serious burn injuries. Some liquids, such as gasoline and solvents, form vapors that can easily catch fire. The vapors burn, not the liquids. At a certain temperature a liquid gives off enough vapors to form an ignitable mixture with air. This temperature is called the flash point.
Some liquids, such as gasoline and solvents, form vapors that can easily catch fire and cause serious burn injuries.Flammable liquids are divided into two classes:
* Flammable liquids(for example, gasoline) have a flash point below 100
MK, Bethany, Heather, everyone:
The BF has been calling me non stop today and being uncommonly nice since he saw that all of shit had been packed up.. Any thoughts?
Laura, I am against the death penalty. I do eat hanburgers though. I don’t view chopped beef as analogous to an unborn baby who has traceable brainwaves starting at six weeks gestation.
A glass half full view: He’s seen that you mean business and that he’ll need to work harder at your relationship if he wants to keep you.
A glass half empty view: He’s lazy and he doesn’t want to move all his stuff or find another place to stay and he’s just being nice for now so you will stop hassling him.
Let’s hope the glass is half full!
I meant to write that I’ve eaten hamburgers before, not “hanburgers”. I must have been thinking about my husband’s famous burgers!!
Midnite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stay strong. Don’t waiver. He is playing on your emotions. Don’t call him back!!!!!
Hold your own.
He’s being nice so he can get back into his comfortable spot with you. Somehow it was working for him, but not for you.
You need to think of you, not him. He brought this mess on himself and needs to face the consequences of his actions.
Why did it take packing up his things for him to finally be nice to you??? He needs to go away.
Carrie,
Chopped beef was very recently a real live cow who meandered the pastures eating grass not knowing that they would soon be violently slaughtered and shoved into a meat grinder and become someone’s lunch.
Per Laura:
“People who want abortions CHOOSE to have them, and plunk down their cash for the privilege.”
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Privelege????
I am speechless.
Well, I figured that I’ll let him be nice to me, but I am still making him go home to his own home for at least two weeks so he can “evaluate” what he wants in life. Then I’ll see what he has to say, and then I’ll decide if what we have is worth saving or not.
But if things do work out, he is not going to be at my house everynight and he will not fall into his “old” routine with me. I am NOT going to allow it ANYMORE!!
jK, I acknowledge your point. However, I don’t view animals and people as moral equivalents. That’s why Mike Vick will probably only get 1-2 years for participating in the slaughter of many dogs(by the way I find his actions abhorrent). If he had committed the same crimes against a human, he would be looking at life in prison(unfortunately society looks the other way when unborn children are slaughtered). I have enjoyed debating you today. Debating is something I love to do!
Carrie, same here. :-)
My friend has a t-shirt that says “Meat is murder, Tasty, tasty murder…”
Midnite, congrats on your strength. I would recommend making a personal commitment not to have any contact with him whatsoever for at least a week (actually, longer would be better, but just make a commitment to yourself you can keep). No emails, text messages, calls, nothing.
I think he’s an addiction you need to wean yourself from. You may find your head clearing with time apart.
JK, I am sure your friend get lots of grief for wearing that t-shirt. I have alot of respect for people that stand up for what they believe in even if I don’t agree with them. I know I get a reaction when I wear my “stop abortion now” tshirt. I’m pretty impervious to the insults I get when I do.
Jill,
Thanks for the advice. I do appreciate it :-).
I am off to Chemi class now. Toodles!
Carrie,
It’s actually one of those humor t-shirts….
But kudos for you for standing proud for your cause. A lot of people might only display such messages in the comfort of a protest with hundreds of like minded individuals, or post anonymously on a website.
JK, oops. I guess it is hard for me to detect humour when I’m looking at a computer screen.
That’s ok,
Things like humor and sarcasm are very hard to convey without the inflection of your voice.
Midnite,
The BF has been calling me non stop today and being uncommonly nice since he saw that all of shit had been packed up.. Any thoughts?
You must now make a choice.
We know he is not capable of giving you the things that would make you happy in this relationship. We know he is a manipulator. We know that he now feels his pride being stung the way you did.
So what was the point of this excercise? To move on and a start anew? Or to stir things up, get him to come back and slowly work your way back to square one. Which means that in 4 months or less, you’ll be on Jill’s site saying “he’s doing the same stuff again, and I don’t know what to do!”?
This has to be your decision. But you know he’s not going to slap himself on the head and suddenly become someone else. He is who he is. You are who you are. Do you want to spend the rest of your life going through this over and over. Cuz that’s what is going to happen. This doesn’t make him bad. It’s just recognizing the truth. He’ll come back, try really hard for awhile and then slowly slip back into who he really is. And that’s fine, if you’re willing to accept it. If not, then it’s time to be strong…
Some of the greatest fights I have ever had with my husband are the times where he would “take me to the zoo” or “take me out to dinner” or “force himself to listen to me instead of watch TV”…and I’d tell him…I don’t want you to “take” me to the zoo. I don’t want you to “take” me out to dinner. I want you to go to the zoo with me. I want you to go to dinner with me.
He did understand finally, and now he just doesn’t take me anywhere…no, I’m kidding. He really did understand the difference. It just happens because familiarity makes it hard to remember that relationships take constant work…
But the idea is the same. You probably wouldn’t be happy with you BF just going through the motions showing you affection. Which is what he’ll be doing if you let him back. You are looking for a guy that will show you affection because he’s the type of guy that shows affection…so, it’s your move.
MK, Bethany, Heather, everyone:
The BF has been calling me non stop today and being uncommonly nice since he saw that all of sh*t had been packed up.. Any thoughts?
Midnite, I anticipated this happening, sadly, and this is the reason that I was hoping you could stay with a friend to help support you. It’s going to be HARD going at this alone. He is going to make it VERY difficult. He is being manipulative and controlling you.
Here is a website which deals with helping you get out of this type of relationship:
http://www.wikihow.com/End-a-Controlling-or-Manipulative-Relationship
Also, does this sound familiar?
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Eight Ways to Spot Emotional Manipulation
Emotional Manipulation is Also “Covert Aggression.” See: “Psychopaths: Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing” Here is a list adapted from an article by Fiona McColl
1. There is no use in trying to be honest with an emotional manipulator. You make a statement and it will be turned around. Example: I am really angry that you forgot my birthday. Response – “It makes me feel sad that you would think I would forget your birthday, I should have told you of the great personal stress I am facing at the moment – but you see I didn?t want to trouble you. You are right I should have put all this pain (don?t be surprised to see real tears at this point) aside and focused on your birthday. Sorry.” Even as you are hearing the words you get the creeped out sensation that they really do NOT mean they are sorry at all – but since they?ve said the words you?re pretty much left with nothing more to say. Either that or you suddenly find yourself babysitting their angst!! Under all circumstances if you feel this angle is being played – don?t capitulate! Do not care take – do not accept an apology that feels like bulls**t. If it feels like bulls**t – it probably is. Rule number one – if dealing with an emotional blackmailer TRUST your gut. TRUST your senses. Once an emotional manipulator finds a successful maneuver – it?s added to their hit list and you?ll be fed a steady diet of this s**t.
2. An emotional manipulator is the picture of a willing helper. If you ask them to do something they will almost always agree – that is IF they didn?t volunteer to do it first. Then when you say, “ok thanks” – they make a bunch of heavy sighs, or other non verbal signs that let you know they don?t really want to do whatever said thing happens to be. When you tell them it doesn?t seem like they want to do whatever – they will turn it around and try to make it seem like OF COURSE they wanted to and how unreasonable you are. This is a form of crazy making – which is something emotional manipulators are very good at. Rule number two – If an emotional manipulator said YES – make them accountable for it. Do NOT buy into the sighs and subtleties – if they don?t want to do it – make them tell you it up front – or just put on the walk-man headphones and run a bath and leave them to their theater.
3. Crazy making – saying one thing and later assuring you they did not say it.If you find yourself in a relationship where you figure you should start keeping a log of what?s been said because you are beginning to question your own sanity –You are experiencing emotional manipulation. An emotional manipulator is an expert in turning things around, rationalizing, justifying and explaining things away. They can lie so smoothly that you can sit looking at black and they?ll call it white – and argue so persuasively that you begin to doubt your very senses. Over a period of time this is so insidious and eroding it can literally alter your sense of reality. WARNING: Emotional Manipulation is VERY Dangerous! It is very disconcerting for an emotional manipulator if you begin carrying a pad of paper and a pen and making notations during conversations. Feel free to let them know you just are feeling so “forgetful” these days that you want to record their words for posterity?s sake. The damndest thing about this is that having to do such a thing is a clear example for why you should be seriously thinking about removing yourself from range in the first place. If you?re toting a notebook to safeguard yourself – that ol? bullsh*t meter should be flashing steady by now!
4. Guilt. Emotional manipulators are excellent guilt mongers. They can make you feel guilty for speaking up or not speaking up, for being emotional or not being emotional enough, for giving and caring, or for not giving and caring enough. Any thing is fair game and open to guilt with an emotional manipulator. Emotional manipulators seldom express their needs or desires openly – they get what they want through emotional manipulation. Guilt is not the only form of this but it is a potent one. Most of us are pretty conditioned to do whatever is necessary to reduce our feelings of guilt. Another powerful emotion that is used is sympathy. An emotional manipulator is a great victim. They inspire a profound sense of needing to support, care for and nurture. Emotional Manipulators seldom fight their own fights or do their own dirty work. The crazy thing is that when you do it for them (which they will never ask directly for), they may just turn around and say they certainly didn?t want or expect you to do anything! Try to make a point of not fighting other people?s battles, or doing their dirty work for them. A great line is “I have every confidence in your ability to work this out on your own” – check out the response and note the bullsh*t meter once again.
5. Emotional manipulators fight dirty. They don?t deal with things directly. They will talk around behind your back and eventually put others in the position of telling you what they would not say themselves. They are passive aggressive, meaning they find subtle ways of letting you know they are not happy little campers. They?ll tell you what they think you want to hear and then do a bunch of j**k off sh*t to undermine it. Example: “Of course I want you to go back to school honey and you know I?ll support you.” Then exam night you are sitting at the table and poker buddies show up, the kids are crying the t.v. blasting and the dog needs walking – all the while “Sweetie” is sitting on their ass looking at you blankly. Dare you call them on such behavior you are likely to hear, “well you can?t expect life to just stop because you have an exam can you honey?” Cry, scream or choke ?em – only the last will have any long-term benefits and it?ll probably wind your butt in jail.
6. If you have a headache an emotional manipulator will have a brain tumor! No matter what your situation is the emotional manipulator has probably been there or is there now – but only ten times worse. It?s hard after a period of time to feel emotionally connected to an emotional manipulator because they have a way of de-railing conversations and putting the spotlight back on themselves. If you call them on this behavior they will likely become deeply wounded or very petulant and call you selfish – or claim that it is you who are always in the spotlight. The thing is that even tho you know this is not the case you are left with the impossible task of proving it. Don?t bother – TRUST your gut and walk away!
7. Emotional manipulators somehow have the ability to impact the emotional climate of those around them. When an emotional manipulator is sad or angry the very room thrums with it – it brings a deep instinctual response to find someway to equalize the emotional climate and the quickest route is by making the emotional manipulator feel better – fixing whatever is broken for them. Stick with this type of loser for too long and you will be so enmeshed and co-dependent you will forget you even have needs – let alone that you have just as much right to have your needs met.
8. Emotional manipulators have no sense of accountability. They take no responsibility for themselves or their behavior – it is always about what everyone else has “done to them”. One of the easiest ways to spot an emotional manipulator is that they often attempt to establish intimacy through the early sharing of deeply personal information that is generally of the “hook-you-in-and-make-you-sorry-for-me” variety. Initially you may perceive this type of person as very sensitive, emotionally open and maybe a little vulnerable. Believe me when I say that an emotional manipulator is about as vulnerable as a rabid pit bull, and there will always be a problem or a crisis to overcome.
Well, I figured that I’ll let him be nice to me, but I am still making him go home to his own home for at least two weeks so he can “evaluate” what he wants in life. Then I’ll see what he has to say, and then I’ll decide if what we have is worth saving or not.
But if things do work out, he is not going to be at my house everynight and he will not fall into his “old” routine with me. I am NOT going to allow it ANYMORE!!
Good for you, Midnite! Stick to your guns. :)
Midnite, here is something else I found:
If someone loves you, it should feel like they love you.
What a concept! Obvious, logical, rational, elementary – like ‘duh’ of course it should.
I had never experienced feeling loved consistently in my closest relationships. Because my parents did not know how to Love themselves, their behavior towards me had caused me to experience love as critical, shaming, manipulative, controlling, and abusive. Because that was my experience of love as a child – that was the only type of relationship I was comfortable with as an adult. It was also, and most importantly, the relationship that I had with myself.
In order to start changing my relationship with myself, so that I could start changing the type of relationships I had with other people, I had to start focusing on trying to learn the True nature of Love.
This, I believe, is the Great Quest that we are on. Anyone in recovery, on a healing/Spiritual path, is ultimately trying to find their way home to LOVE – in my belief. LOVE is the Higher Power – the True nature of the God-Force/Goddess Energy/Great Spirit. LOVE is the fabric from which we are woven. LOVE is the answer.
And in order to start finding my way home to LOVE – I first had to start awakening to what Love is not. Here are a few things that I have learned, and believe, are not part of the True nature of Love.
Love is not:
Critical Shaming Abusive Controlling Manipulative
Demeaning Humiliating Separating Discounting
Diminishing Belittling Negative Traumatic
Painful most of the time etc.
Love is also not an addiction. It is not taking a hostage or being taken hostage. The type of romantic love that I learned about growing is a form of toxic love. The “I can’t smile without out you,” “Can’t live without you.” “You are my everything,” “You are not whole until you find your prince/princess” messages that I learned in relationship to romantic love in childhood are not descriptions of Love – they are descriptions of drug of choice, of someone who is a higher power/false god.
Additionally, Love is not being a doormat. Love does not entail sacrificing your self on the altar of martyrdom – because one cannot consciously choose to sacrifice self if they have never Truly had a self that they felt was Lovable and worthy. If we do not know how to Love our self, how to show respect and honor for our self – then we have no self to sacrifice. We are then sacrificing in order to try to prove to ourselves that we are lovable and worthy – that is not giving from the heart, that is codependently manipulative, controlling, and dishonest.
Unconditional Love is not being a self-sacrificing doormat – Unconditional Love begins with Loving self enough to protect our self from the people we Love if that is necessary. Until we start Loving, honoring, and respecting our self, we are not Truly giving – we are attempting to take self worth from others by being compliant in our behavior towards them.
I also learned that Love is not about success, achievement, and recognition. If I do not Love my self – believe at the core of my being that I am worthy and Lovable – then any success, achievement, or recognition I get will only serve to distract me temporarily from the hole that I feel within, from the feeling of being defective that I internalized as a small child because the love that I received did not feel Loving.
I realized that this is what I had done for much of my life – tried to take self worth from being a ‘nice guy’ or from a princess or from becoming a ‘success.’ As I started awakening to what Love is not, I could then start exploring to discover the True Nature of Love. I started consciously realizing that this is what I had always been seeking – that my Great Quest in life is to return home to LOVE.
LOVE is the answer. Love is the key. The Great Quest in life is for the Holy Grail that is the True nature of Love.
http://www.joy2meu.com/Love.html
3. Crazy making – saying one thing and later assuring you they did not say it.If you find yourself in a relationship where you figure you should start keeping a log of what
You’re right, sounds very similar.
Lots of reasons why calling abortion proponents is biased/inaccurate. Bernard Nathanson, co-founder of NARAL and a former abortionist, stated,”I remember laughing when we made those slogans (“Freedom of choice”, “Women must have control over their own bodies”,etc.) up…We were looking for some sexy, catchy slogans to capture public opinion. They were very cynical slogans then, just as all of these slogans today are very, very cynical.” How cynical? You figure it out:
1.) Legalizing the murder of unborn children (aka induced abortion) was never about “a woman’s right to choose”; that is just a smoke screen for a “doctor”‘s “right” to premeditatedly, coldbloodedly, and deliberately take the lives of innocent human beings with impunity.
2.) Of the 50,000,000 children slaughtered by these human hyenas since Roe v. Wade, well over half of them were little girls (sex selection child-killings tend to spare little boys and kill little girls); none of them chose their executions, but resisted them (for documentation of resistance even in a first trimester killing, see silentscream.org).
3.) Of the millions of Americans registered to vote in 1973, only nine of them were given a voice in the matter of declaring open season on every American conceived since March 22, 1972, and ALL OF THEM WERE MEN…yet we constantly hear abortion proponents whining that because men do not have wombs, they should have no say in “women’s” “reproductive issues”. (Interestingly, we also hear the fathers of children taken like lambs to be slaughtered in America’s death chambers cop out by whining that “I can’t tell a woman what to do with her body”. No? Then how did she get pregnant to begin with? Were you gagged and raped? I doubt that…) A pro-abort chant we used to hear a lot at rescue events went, “2-4-6-10, why are all your leaders men?” It wasn’t true, of course; there are many women in prolife leadership, and most of the misogynists making a killing by subjecting women to the violence, trauma and danger of induced abortion are men, as were all of the supreme court justices who voted to ensure that these atrocities could be perpetrated/perpetuated with impunity.
4.) Pro-life feminist Frederica Matthewes-Green once wrote, “A woman doesn’t want an abortion the way she wants an ice cream cone or a Porsche. A woman chooses an abortion like an animal caught in a trap “chooses” to gnaw off it’s hind leg.” The elements of coercion, manipulation, and deception at work in most induced abortions are so numerous, and so typical, that very few legal induced abortions are actual free choices on the part of the women subjected to them. For more on this, see afterabortion.org. I have heard many post-abortive women say to prolifers, “You don’t understand; I HAD to get an abortion”. We can debate the imperative claim, but what is not debatable is that something one “has” to do is not, strictly speaking, a free choice…though there are elements of personal responsibility and accountability. We hear people blaming others for the murder of these babies; the abortionists claim that they are only doing what women want; the women claim that they were coerced into it. There is more coercion by the abortionists than by the women, but all involved share the blame.
5.) If induced abortion is a free choice, why is it that we don’t see women getting pregnant on purpose in order to get abortions? They only do that if they want to have children.
6.) The “pro-choice” is especially cynical in view of the fact that so many post-abortive women found, too late, their actual abortions to be the “choice (insofar as they had a say in the matter) that ended all choices” for them as well as for their unborn children…you got it, they died from their “safe, legal” abortions. You see, you can control your own actions, but you cannot control the consequences of your choices.
7.) Many women have gone in for abortions, changed their minds just before the grisly deed was done, and begged the abortionist not to go through with it. They are told to shut up and hold still; one woman told me that her abortionist added further insult to her injuries by dangling the bloody parts of her baby’s body in her face as he pulled them out of her body, saying, singsongy, “Now here’s a little arm, and here’s a little leg”, etc.
8.) If the abortion cartel is so “pro-choice”, why do they fight informed consent legislation tooth and nail every time it appears on the horizon? Why do they constantly slander and demean abortion alternative resource centers? Why do they try to criminalize and imprison everyone who chooses oppose them? If “choice” for its own sake is the main thing, then how can anyone who is literally pro-choice criticize any act of volition at all? The fact of the matter is that the term “choice” is abused (as are all the people subjected to the atrocity it represents) to euphemize, minimize, legitimize, demoralize and glamorize a savage act of violence that is abominably abhorrent to any thinking person of conscience. And why do they always try to intimidate women who might choose later to seek legal redress for botched abortion injuries by making them sign indemnification statements prior to getting their children killed? You know, those consent & liability release forms…they won’t hold up in court in cases of malpractice, fraud, or injury, because those things aren’t legal, but they are the tools of “choice” to beat the quarry of the abortion profiteers into silence…so they don’t lose any money, or their licenses, or any of their future business, to lawsuits. Yes, they can dish out the injury, but when it comes time to pay the piper, it’s the woman who pays…often with her life. But that is how predators operate. They take what they want, but responsibility is not something they want, so they will always foist that off on someone else.
Think about it next time you hear those ‘choice’ phrases bandied about…think about it hard.
Thanks for the advice guys. I really do appreciate it!!
Now y’all are going to laugh (b/c I am agnostic and have almost no faith) but this my favorite quote about love:
Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, 5 does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, 6 does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
1 Corinthians 13:4-7
Midnite, an excellent quote, and I really love that passage too. (hugs)
7.) Many women have gone in for abortions, changed their minds just before the grisly deed was done, and begged the abortionist not to go through with it. They are told to shut up and hold still; one woman told me that her abortionist added further insult to her injuries by dangling the bloody parts of her baby’s body in her face as he pulled them out of her body, saying, singsongy, “Now here’s a little arm, and here’s a little leg”, etc.
midnite, I think this is just wonderful! Talk about progress! I figured he’d want you back. Why not? He’s out of his comfort zone too! He’s also suffering from some wounded pride. I agree with everyone else here. Don’t have contact if you can avoid it. You just might find that no contact is easier. You also just might find that you don’t really miss him all that much anymore.
Bethany, I agree with that post of yours above. It sounds like a lot of these abortionists are “getting off” on this sickening control type of thing. I don’t believe that abortionists could have any respect for women. Also, anyone who will, please pray for a friend of mine. She’s pregnant, and I thought that she was going to have the baby. Today she informed me that she just can’t go on being pregnant, and she’s scheduled an appointment @ the AB clinic. Please pray for her to have a change of heart.
Many women have gone in for abortions, changed their minds just before the grisly deed was done, and begged the abortionist not to go through with it. They are told to shut up and hold still; one woman told me that her abortionist added further insult to her injuries by dangling the bloody parts of her baby’s body in her face as he pulled them out of her body, saying, singsongy, “Now here’s a little arm, and here’s a little leg”, etc.
How silly.
Heather,
how did youlike the videos?
PIP, I LOVED them. LOL! Especially the Chris Rock video. The last one. I just watched them last night!!!!!!!
pip, thanks again. i needed that!
Glad you liked them, Heather!