Will live blog Fox’s “Facing Reality: Choice” tonight
I will live blog thoughts about Fox Cable New’s documentary, Facing Reality: Choice, tonight beginning when its starts at 9p EST (8p CST, etc.) and welcome you to live blog alongside me with your analyses.
I spotlighted this documentary and my concerns on October 24. Every clip of the show’s promos now includes that kindly looking abortionist creep William Harrison, which makes my skin crawl.
Fox commentator Fr. Jonathan Morris wrote reassuring words about the documentary….
On Saturday evening at 9 p.m. ET, the FOX News Channel will air a provocative documentary also about abortion and “choice.” Executive producer, Brian Gaffney, described to me his team’s work in this way: “This show has no political handicapping, no medical experts, and no Constitutional analysis. We simply follow three women as they decide what to do about their problem or unwanted pregnancies.”
This includes toting FOX cameras into an operating room with a 20-year-old student as she undergoes an abortion. Facing Reality, Choice, hosted by E.D. Hill and produced by Rachel Feldman, also documents the story of Brooke and Tom who bring to full-term a child with a fatal disease, knowing it will only survive a few hours after birth. I have not seen the documentary, but if it lives up to the advertisement, it will be groundbreaking in its ability to make us consider, once again, what “choice” is all about….
We hear a lot of chatter about the politics of abortion, but rarely do we hear anyone talk about my abortion, or my wife’s abortion, or the child we almost aborted. Similarly, we rarely hear discussion about how to support women in the midst of their agonizing decisions, often forced upon them by irresponsible men.
Until we see up-close what “choice” really is and what its consequences are, we will, I’m afraid, forever be a country held bondage by sterilized debates that have nothing to do with women, children, or the good of society.
Storytelling may be the best way to break the impasse, and it all starts this weekend. Tune in….
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Jill, that man makes my skin crawl too. [Harrison] He looks like a pervert. I will not be able to watch this tonight. I did see a preview flash across the TV though. I don’t know if I could watch it. I’m sure that the abortion loving media will make abortion look inviting. I’ll want to bust my TV set. *kidding*
January 13, 2006
The Proud Abortionist of Arkansas
Nightline aired a chilling interview with Arkansas abortionist Dr. William Harrison in which he not only defended performing abortions on what he considers is a living human being (though not a person – a distinction without a difference), but also believes abortion is beneficial to a woman – more beneficial than having an “unwanted” baby or giving up the child for adoption. By his own estimation, he performs an average of six abortions a day, so estimates he has killed over 10,000 children.
“The decision to have an abortion is really an easy one. It’s really a form of birth control.”
Dr. Harrison considers the unborn a life, but just a blob of tissue.
Dr. Harrison said “The decision to have an abortion is really an easy one.” Okay, then why are women saying the opposite?
Tuesday, November 29, 2005
Abortionist Hagiography
Amy Welborn has the loving LA Times profile of Dr. William F. Harrison. At 2,100 words, it’s a pretty fair-sized devotion for a newspaper. It is, I’m afraid, more horrifying than you could even imagine:
Now 70, Harrison estimates he’s terminated at least 20,000 pregnancies. . . .
Harrison warns every patient he sees that abortion may be illegal one day. He wants to stir them to activism, but most women respond mildly.
“I can’t imagine the country coming to that,” says Kim, 35, in for her second abortion in two years. . . .
He calls himself an “abortionist” and says, “I am destroying life.”
But he also feels he’s giving life: He calls his patients “born again.”
“When you end what the woman considers a disastrous pregnancy, she has literally been given her life back,” he says. . . .
His Fayetteville Women’s Clinic occupies a once-elegant home dating to the 1940s; the first-floor surgery looks like it was a parlor. Thick blue curtains block the windows and paintings of butterflies and flowers hang on the walls. The radio is tuned to an easy-listening station.
An 18-year-old with braces on her teeth is on the operating table, her head on a plaid pillow, her feet up in stirrups, her arms strapped down at her sides. A pink blanket is draped over her stomach. She’s 13 weeks pregnant, at the very end of the first trimester. She hasn’t told her parents.
A nurse has already given her a local anesthetic, Valium and a drug to dilate her cervix; Harrison prepares to inject Versed, a sedative, in her intravenous line. The drug will wipe out her memory of everything that happens during the 20 minutes she’s in the operating room. It’s so effective that patients who return for a follow-up exam often don’t recognize Harrison.
The doctor is wearing a black turtleneck, brown slacks and tennis shoes. He snaps his gum as he checks the monitors displaying the patient’s pulse rate and oxygen count.
“This is not going to be nearly as hard as you anticipate,” he tells her.
She smiles wanly. Keeping up a constant patter ? he asks about her brothers, her future birth control plans, whether she’s good at tongue twisters ? Harrison pulls on sterile gloves.
“How’re you doing up there?” he asks.
“Doing OK.”
“Good girl.”
Harrison glances at an ultrasound screen frozen with an image of the fetus taken moments before. Against the fuzzy black-and-white screen, he sees the curve of a head, the bend of an elbow, the ball of a fist.
“You may feel some cramping while we suction everything out,” Harrison tells the patient. . . .
When he’s done, Harrison performs another ultrasound. The screen this time is blank but for the contours of the uterus. “We’ve gotten everything out of there,” he says. . . .
For the few women who arrive ambivalent or beset by guilt, Harrison’s nurse has posted statistics on the exam-room mirror: One out of every four pregnant women in the U.S. chooses abortion. A third of all women in this country will have at least one abortion by the time they’re 45.
“You think there’s room in hell for all those women?” the nurse will ask. . . .
Amanda, a 20-year-old administrative assistant, says it’s not the obstacles that surprise her ? it’s how normal and unashamed she feels as she prepares to end her first pregnancy.
“It’s an everyday occurrence,” she says as she waits for her 2:30 p.m. abortion. “It’s not like this is a rare thing.”
Amanda hasn’t told her ex-boyfriend that she’s 15 weeks pregnant with his child. She hasn’t told her parents, either, though she lives with them.
“I figured it was my responsibility,” she says.
She regrets having to pay $750 for the abortion, but Amanda says she does not doubt her decision. “It’s not like it’s illegal. It’s not like I’m doing anything wrong,” she says. . . .
His first patient of the day, Sarah, 23, says it never occurred to her to use birth control, though she has been sexually active for six years. When she became pregnant this fall, Sarah, who works in real estate, was in the midst of planning her wedding. “I don’t think my dress would have fit with a baby in there,” she says. . . .
The last patient of the day, a 32-year-old college student named Stephanie, has had four abortions in the last 12 years. She keeps forgetting to take her birth control pills. Abortion “is a bummer,” she says, “but no big stress.”
Harrison does not get frustrated with such patients.
He has learned to focus on the facts he considers most important: This woman does not want to be pregnant. He can give her back control of her life and keep a child from coming into the world unwanted. He believes in this so strongly, he waives his fees for women who can’t come up with the money.
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Some of these abortion patients sound like bimbos.
Harrison waives his fees for women who can’t come up with the money? Hmmmmmm. I wonder if he takes it out in trade??
Some of these abortion patients sound like bimbos.
Posted by: heather at October 27, 2007 1:07 PM
Harrison waives his fees for women who can’t come up with the money? Hmmmmmm. I wonder if he takes it out in trade??
Posted by: heather at October 27, 2007 1:09 PM
wow, someone’s got some issues…. I can’t imagine what would possess someone to write either of those posts.
Harrison waives his fees for women who can’t come up with the money? Hmmmmmm. I wonder if he takes it out in trade??
Posted by: heather at October 27, 2007 1:09 PM
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Yeah, that’s probably what Mother Teresa and the people at St. Jude’s and Ronald McDonald House did when the patient had no money.
People who provide free medical care to the poor are usually pure evil…
hal, don’t you remember my posts on abortionists and sex abuse?
Yeah, that’s probably what Mother Teresa and the people at St. Jude’s and Ronald McDonald House did when the patient had no money.
People who provide free medical care to the poor are usually pure evil…
Posted by: Laura at October 27, 2007 2:27 PM /************** Blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada….
Heather,
You know I think the world of you and because of that I must be honest. I just don’t think this kind of name calling has any place in the PL movement. I know you are more than capable when it comes to presenting an intelligent argument.
We condemned it when the women accusing Clinton were attacked as “bimbos”. Let’s not resort to that same tactic. Its no better when we do it.
But Harrison refuses to end third-trimester pregnancies, even if the fetus is severely disabled. Some premature infants born at that stage, or even a few weeks earlier, can survive. Harrison believes they may be developed enough to feel pain in utero. Just a handful of doctors around the nation will abort a fetus at this stage.
“I just don’t think it should be done,” says Harrison, who calls the practice infanticide
Mary, I am sorry, but I couldn’t help but to look at the reasons that these women had aborted.
Read more goobly goop from Harrison.
Please pro choicers, feel free to set me straight. Why is the abortionist saying that PBA is infanticide? Don’t most of you feel that abortion should be available despite the stage of developement?
Mary, I’ll try to “clean it up.” Cuz I think the world of you as well. I wish I could be more like you. You always show such tact.
Heather,
I like the reassuring words of Father Morris. How true that these decisions are so often forced on women because of irresponsible men. I’ve seen it too often where a man thought his responsibility began and ended with an offer to pay for an abortion.
In all fairness, I have also seen women abort with no regard to or consideration of the man.
It does go both ways.
Heather,
Thank you. You are much too kind!
A good point about the abortionist calling PBA infanticide. Talk about straight from the horse’s mouth.
I guess I’d have to agree with Harrison on that one. The PC side in so full of contradictions and lies, I guess it’s tough for some people to keep their stories straight.
“”It’s not like it’s illegal. It’s not like I’m doing anything wrong,” she says.”
So the wrongness of an action is determined by its legality? I guess none of history’s dictators did anything wrong, then. They all acted according to their own laws.
John, you gotta love it!
Laura,
Yeah, that’s probably what Mother Teresa
I thought we already determined that Mother Teresa got her money from warlords…
Oh MK, we all know the ends justify the means. Who cares if Mother Teresa got her money from warlords? She used it to save people!
Rae, oh Rae, oh Rae…
I’ve missed you! It’s seems like you always come on the minute I go off…did you get my email?
All right, I’m composed now…
Oh MK, we all know the ends justify the means. Who cares if Mother Teresa got her money from warlords? She used it to save people!
Yes, just like ripping children out of womens wombs is okay because they got their “orgasm!!!!”
@MK: I’m going to go check it pronto! :)
I’m still here…at work. Turning into an icicle(bicycle).
Oh fritz-sticks. No email yet. I’m sure it’s coming though.
Rae,
I sent it a week ago! Hmmmm…let me see if I saved it and can resend it! It was in answer to the one you sent me! No wonder you haven’t responded.
Here’s a “warmy” hug…
I just posted to you on the Hero thread…
Yes, just like ripping children out of womens wombs is okay because they got their “orgasm!!!!”
mk, sex is a lot more than the “orgasm”
@MK: Oh THAT email! I’m sorry! I forgot to respond to it! I wrote you a new email though!
Hold on, I’ll go respond to the email you sent a week ago, because I did get it and read it, just didn’t respond (my baaaaaaad!).
Please pro choicers, feel free to set me straight. Why is the abortionist saying that PBA is infanticide?
Heather, he probably thinks of the fetus as an infant then.
….
Don’t most of you feel that abortion should be available despite the stage of developement?
I don’t think so.
Doug
Hal said: “mk, sex is a lot more than the “orgasm””
Right, it’s also procreative. OH WAIT, we don’t like that part.
Plus it’s unitive. OH WAIT that’s also bad. It’s best to have as many “partners” as possible instead of having those @#$% feelings bonding you to only one person.
Really Hal,
How often do you have sex where you don’t “finish” the job?
superb JohnL ….
John L: Right, it’s also procreative. OH WAIT, we don’t like that part.
Wrong. That part is just fine if that’s what the woman or couple wants.
……
Plus it’s unitive. OH WAIT that’s also bad.
Nope – that’s cool as well.
……
It’s best to have as many “partners” as possible instead of having those @#$% feelings bonding you to only one person.
Straw man poster boy.
Plus it’s unitive. OH WAIT that’s also bad. It’s best to have as many “partners” as possible instead of having those @#$% feelings bonding you to only one person.
Posted by: John Lewandowski at October 27, 2007 5:07 PM
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Well, It sounds like someone was influenced by Eric “The Quack” Keroack and his remarkably stupid oxytocin theory.
Doug and Laura, perhaps you should have some kind of secret pro-abortion conference before you contradict each other. One of you dismisses my statement that pro-aborts advocate in favor of multiple sex ‘partners’ while the other ridicules the notion that anybody should stick to one such ‘partner’. Which one is it?
Doug and Laura, perhaps you should have some kind of secret pro-abortion conference before you contradict each other. One of you dismisses my statement that pro-aborts advocate in favor of multiple sex ‘partners’ while the other ridicules the notion that anybody should stick to one such ‘partner’. Which one is it?
Posted by: John Lewandowski at October 27, 2007 11:47 PM
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1) I have NEVER heard a pro-choice proponent advocate multiple partners. I haven’t heard anyone advocate multiple partners in the last 20 years.
2) Your “bonding” theory smells like Keroack, a moron if there ever was one.
Laura, that is fascinating. You haven’t heard anyone advocate for multiple sex partners in 20 years? You haven’t heard anyone advocate having sex with a boyfriend/girlfriend that they do not intend to marry?!
Well, aren’t you sheltered.
And you’re right, Laura. It’s just silly to think that the most physically intimate action in existence could possibly cause some kind of psychological and emotional connection between two people.
Incidentally, here’s something interesting for you to read, directly from Planned Parenthood’s website for children, teenwire.com:
http://www.teenwire.com/infocus/2004/if-20040803p309-friend.php
It’s a discussion of the pros and cons of “hooking up”, and the potential emotional consequences of doing so. Darn right-wing Christianists at Planned Parenthood!
And you’re right, Laura. It’s just silly to think that the most physically intimate action in existence could possibly cause some kind of psychological and emotional connection between two people.
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…And that’s WHY the Lambada is “The Forbidden Dance.”
http://www.teenwire.com/infocus/2004/if-20040803p309-friend.php
It’s a discussion of the pros and cons of “hooking up”, and the potential emotional consequences of doing so. Darn right-wing Christianists at Planned Parenthood!
Posted by: John Lewandowski at October 28, 2007 12:20 AM
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Yes, John-
That was the basis of my claim that nobody has advocated “hooking up,” multiple partners or casual sex in the last 20 years – not even liberal ‘ol Planned Parenthood.
All the rules changed when it turned out that humping made you die.
John L: Doug and Laura, perhaps you should have some kind of secret pro-abortion conference before you contradict each other. One of you dismisses my statement that pro-aborts advocate in favor of multiple sex ‘partners’ while the other ridicules the notion that anybody should stick to one such ‘partner’. Which one is it?
The “it” here is you trying to construct a lame straw man argument, and not doin’ so well.
People don’t necessarily need to just have one partner, but that is not the same thing as “advocating” multiple partners. Pro-Choice can rightly scoff at the notion that “there can be only one” (good movie, huh?) is the only way it can be, yet two people can hook up early on in life and never be with anybody else and that’s fine with Pro-Choice too.
Doug
From the dawn of time we came; moving silently down through the centuries, living many secret lives, struggling to reach the time of the Gathering; when the few who remain will battle to the last. No one has ever known we were among you… until now.
Doug,
From the dawn of time we came; moving silently down through the centuries, living many secret lives, struggling to reach the time of the Gathering; when the few who remain will battle to the last. No one has ever known we were among you… until now.
Well, that will give me nightmares! And which side of the battle will you be on?
Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends.
J. R. R. Tolkien, The Lord Of the Rings
Well, that will give me nightmares! And which side of the battle will you be on?
MK, that’s a quote from the movie “Highlander.” No demons or boogeymen involved.
As for which side I’m on, I’m gonna wait and buy DVDs when they’re cheap enough – darn movie theaters charge a darn arm and a darn leg anymore, darn it.
Doug,
“The board is set, the pieces are moving. We come to it at last…
The great battle of our time.”
“With hope or without hope we will follow the trail of our enemies. And woe to them, if we prove the swifter!”
“The world changes, and all that once was strong now proves unsure.”
J. R. R. Tolkien
MK, from our mutual buddy John Ronald Reuel, here’s one I figure you’ll like.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
End of the second book:
“shouldering their burdens, they set off, seeking a path that would bring them over the grey hills of the Emyn Muil, and down into the Land of Shadow.”
Yes but,
“Their Oath shall drive them, and yet betray them, and ever snatch away the very treasures that they have sworn to pursue.”
J.J.Tolkien
“Theology teaches us what ends are desirable and what means are lawful, while politics teaches what means are effective.”
CS Lewis
“A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is…A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in. We never find out the strength of the evil impulse inside us until we try to fight it: and Christ, because He was the only man who never yielded to temptation, is also the only man who knows to the full what temptation means – the only complete realist.
CSLewis
And Lewis on Tolkien:
“No one ever influenced Tolkien – you might as well try to influence a bander-snatch. We listened to his work, but could affect it only by encouragement. He has only two reactions to criticism; either he begins the whole work over again from the beginning or else take no notice at all”
I would venture to say that there are a number of people on this board (not mentioning any names (Doug)) that would do well to begin “the whole work over again from the beginning”.
It takes a real man to admit that perhaps he’s gotten it wrong the first time around. Just sayin.
I’m off to visit my True Love. Be back after mass.
I’m off to visit my True Love. Be back after mass.
You and Barack are goin’ to church? Okay, see ya later.
I would venture to say that there are a number of people on this board (not mentioning any names (Doug)) that would do well to begin “the whole work over again from the beginning”.
It takes a real man to admit that perhaps he’s gotten it wrong the first time around. Just sayin.
Maybe so, MK, maybe so.
Tolkien did indeed want stuff to “match” – there are a few contradictions between ‘The Hobbit’ and ‘The Lord of the Rings’ and several times he expressed the desire to rewrite all of ‘The Hobbit.’
A sense of completness.
Oooo, didn’t realize the Tolkien discussion had moved over here. I left a comment on the earlier Aurora rally post, but will re-post here:
MK and Doug,
Ahhh, you’re correct MK, that’s not really one of my considerations about Tolkien, or at least not a major part. I do love that his fiction has so many layers of myth in it, and I agree that some of the themes in LoTR are Catholic/Judeo-Christian, but his scholarship went far beyond that.
One of the reasons I love Tolkien is for his scholarship in dead languages. Before Tolkien, no one looked at Beowulf as a work of literature, but more as an historical document. He was the first “critic” of ancient British literature written in the Anglo-Saxon language. He was familiar with classical languages as well as Anglo-Saxon and IIRC, Old Icelandic (for the purpose of translating the sagas, which are also fabulous stories in their own right). Anyway, he pulls from all of those storytelling traditions for LoTR, which is what makes it such a rich tale.
wow, someone’s got some issues…. I can’t imagine what would possess someone to write either of those posts.
Posted by: hal at October 27, 2007 2:27 PM…. Yup. Someone sure does have some issues. It’s pretty bad when you support abortion, but you can’t even bring yourself to view an abortion video. Issues indeed.
Yup. Someone sure does have some issues. It’s pretty bad when you support abortion, but you can’t even bring yourself to view an abortion video. Issues indeed.
Posted by: heather at October 28, 2007 11:40 AM
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Yeah, funny…
Why didn’t you watch the FAUX News documentary last night? Issues?
Cuz I was working ding bat!
I don’t know if I could watch it. I’m sure that the abortion loving media will make abortion look inviting. I’ll want to bust my TV set. *kidding*
Posted by: heather at October 27, 2007 12:47 PM
Laura, nice try to “suck up” the other day. OOOOOHHHHHH, I am defending poor Hal. PULEEZZZEE! He’s a grown man. Let him view the same abortion video that you did. Why can’t he? I DID!
Why can’t he? I DID!
Posted by: heather at October 28, 2007 12:09 PM
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You do a lot of things.
Hopefully you’ll lose custody before you become anybody’s role model.
How do you know what I do?
Laura, I cannot believe that you are a 44 year old woman. I’d think you were more like 14. I hope you lose your job working with animals. You’re not fit. Suck up, suck up!! Laura is a suck up!!!
Hi Heather. I would just ignore her. I think she thrives on your attention. Maybe she has a girl crush on you.
Carrie, I am starting to think the same thing. The woman is stalking me.
Okay, off to a clam bake I go!
Heather 10/27 1:04PM
Does the patient ever meet Harrison prior to her abortion? Is there any pre-op assessment or health history of any kind taken? The patient is given versed in addition to valium. This will certainly wipe out memory, trouble is it can also wipe out respirations. I hope there are people that are trained and equipment on hand for such an emergency.
Harrison snaps gum while operating. How professional. Imagine your doctor doing the same when talking to you, examining, or performing any kind of procedure on you.
Heather 10/27 1:04PM
Statistics on an exam room mirror. Puh-leeze. Does your doctor post statistics on disease, surgical procedures, or treatments on his/her exam room mirror?
“You think there’s room in hell for all those women”? the nurse will ask.
When it comes to professionalism, this “nurse”, assuming she even has any such credentials, ranks right up there with her employer.
Doug,
You and Barack are goin’ to church? Okay, see ya later.
Oh yeah. Me and Obama. Joined at the hip.
Unfortunately, God wouldn’t set foot in Obama’s “church”…
MK, I don’t think God appreciates racist ‘churches’ like Obama’s, which are all about the advancement of black people. I’m glad that my church is for the advancement of all people, regardless of skin color.
Hi Heather. I would just ignore her. I think she thrives on your attention. Maybe she has a girl crush on you.
Posted by: Carrie at October 28, 2007 12:41 PM
I agree. Heather, you will never win an argument against a crazed mind. I mean after all, Laura thought that PP “made out like a bandit” after they were forced to shut down the abortion mill they opened in CA.
How can you argue with someone who thinks that, because PP was paid $800,000 for something that cost them roughly 5 – 6 million to build, they “made out” after they were forced to close 2 years later. Baffling.
But watch out, I do think she’s got a crush. ;)
John,
I’m pretty sure Obama belongs to one of those churches where anything goes…which means everything goes…which means it’s not really a church at all…
How can you argue with someone who thinks that, because PP was paid $800,000 for something that cost them roughly 5 – 6 million to build
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In the article I posted the clinic sat on .23 acres of land. It had fewer than 20 parking spaces.
Where the hell do you get the idea a place like that cost $6 million?
Caerol, (do you mind if I put in a more “old-world” spelling?)
Okay, just kidding, I typed it that way by accident.
Carol – you’re right, Tolkien was a heck of a guy, from many perspectives.
Doug
How can a “doctor” afford to waive fees? Is he really that eager to perform abortions? So eager that he’ll do them for free? That doesn’t add up.
Heather, a doctor, like anybody else, can afford to waive fees if it doesn’t really hurt the doc financially. Lawyers sometimes do it too.
Doug
Doug, I have never been offered any free elective surgery….Never.
Doug, please tell me of any free surgical procedures that you are aware of.
Doug, I have never been offered any free elective surgery….Never.
Heather, bring that hangnail over here. I’ve got a nifty pair of nail clippers.
I see it like a lawyer doing “pro bono” work. There are quite a few areas where a sliding scale of charges may be in effect.
Agreed that doctors usually charge for their services, almost always, in fact. Yet there are still things like “doctors without borders,” missionary doctors, etc., and if a doctor chooses to do something without demanding payment for it, what of it?
Doug
Doug, think about this. EVERY single woman could go in there and put on the “poor mouth.” So, how does the man afford to do free abortions? Nope. I’m willing to bet he’s got a “collection couch.”
Doug, think about this. EVERY single woman could go in there and put on the “poor mouth.” So, how does the man afford to do free abortions? Nope. I’m willing to bet he’s got a “collection couch.”
:: laughing :: Heather, yer killin’ me. Okay, how many tabloid magazines do you subscribe to? I mean, be honest. Doesn’t have to be an exact count. How about just to the nearest dozen?
Seriously, yes – every woman could ask for him to do it for free. I doubt he would, then.
Doug
P.S. What a bummer! They stopped printing The Weekly World News….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_World_News
Hillary Clinton adopted an alien baby? OMG, you’re kidding? LOL! I’m kidding Doug.
There were some great ones….
Missing baby found inside watermelon
Six year old wino gives birth
Doug, my posts about perverted abortionists are not “rag mag” material though. They are very true. I’d still like to know who offers free surgical procedures though.
Heather, just joking about the tabloids. As for doctors doing stuff for free – it apparently happens. Do you think it’s impossible?
Yentl
Doug, HOW does it happen, and how often does it happen? I have just never heard of such a thing. I’m sure women are going to him because they can’t afford to have a child. An abortion may just cost a lot of them one months rent. How many women are allowed to slip through the payment crack? I’m curious on that one. It doesn’t add up.
No idea how often it happens, but it does not sound hard to believe that he may charge less, or even nothing, depending on their financial situation.
Doug, former abortionist, Brian Finkel, was molesting women over a 2 decade span. Nobody told for so long. He was even able to talk some of the women into having consensual sex with him. Who would want to have sex with him? Was he also giving them discounts on their abortions? Doug, warning bells just go off for me with Harrison. I think he’s a dirty old man. Just a gut feeling.
Doug, it does to me. Who is paying for the medications? Who is paying for the staff? What if 8 “broke” women come in that day? Who is paying? I don’t know of any doctor who would do this.
The documentary was crap!
It shows that FoxNEWS is pro-abortion and waaay too sympathetic to the lies that make up the rationale of Planned Barrenhood and the National Abortion Federation.
Zeke, that tinfoil hat is a bit crooked.
Zeke, I figured that would be the case.
John, have you ever heard of a “doctor” who was able to waive abortion fees? I cannot think of any time I have heard of such a thing. How could an abortionist afford to do this?
Heather, I don’t recall ever hearing about abortionists waiving abortion fees. Usually they’re whining that the government (in other words, us) isn’t paying for the abortions.
Just because I’ve never heard of it doesn’t mean it never happens, though. These people truly think that these babies should be killed, whatever asinine reason they come up with to justify it, so there probably have been cases in which they killed the baby for free (on a case by case basis), out of the goodness of their hearts.
John, thank you. I just could not imagine a greedy abortionist doing the job for free.
http://ask.metafilter.com/58877/How-much-does-an-abortion-cost/rss
It depends where you go. One of my girlfriends had an abortion at Planned Parenthood and I’m pretty sure we paid about $40 on a sliding scale. Another girlfriend went to a private practitioner and we paid $200, sliding scale. I can’t remember what the specific procedure was, but both were done at the beginning of the second trimester, if that makes an impact on the costs involved.
Well Doug, the truth comes out. No wonder you’re so pro abortion.
Heather, I’m for the choice. If abortion is not desired then I’m not “for” it. If you find somebody who wants people to have abortions, regardless if they want the pregnancy or not, then you’ve actually got somebody who is “pro-abortion.”
My point, above, is that there are indeed sliding scales for charges. With many abortions costing well up in the hundreds of Dollars, even into the thousands, for one to be had at $40 just shows how variable it can be.
With that in mind, it’s certainly not impossible that a given doctor would do them for free in a given situation. I’m not saying it happens a lot or that it even happens to a certain extent – I’m just saying that it can’t be ruled out just because you think abortionists are “greedy.”
Sorry Doug. I thought you were sharing a personal story.
‘sallright.