The Parable of the Good Abortionist

In the Parable of the Good Samaritan, two people pass by a man on the side of the road who has been robbed, beaten, and left for dead. But a noble 3rd passerby sees that the beaten man has a child and stops to kill the child to spare the man more angst.
parker.jpgWait. That’s not what happened.
No, the 3rd person spots the beaten man, roughs him up for more money, and then kills the child.
Yes, that’s it.
That is actually the Parable of the Good Abortionist, as told by abortionist Willie Parker at the Physicians for Reproductive Choice and Health website….

Ultimately, the parable of the Good Samaritan persuaded Dr. Parker that he had to offer abortion services to the women he treats. The story of an injured traveler being ignored by passersby resonated with Dr. Parker, who once worked in a hospital that did not allow abortions. “The Good Samaritan was the one person who didn’t think about himself,” he says. “Instead, he asked what would happen to the injured traveler if he didn’t help.”

In the real parable, the Good Samaritan bandages the injured person’s wounds, provides transportation, pays for his lodging, and offers to provide additional financial support if needed.
This is the sort of help pro-lifers — not pro-aborts — provide to pregnant mothers and their preborn children in crisis. Plus we’ll pay for physician care, maternal and baby clothing, diapers, furniture, child care education, etc., etc., etc.
Actually, pro-aborts invert the parable. They won’t lift a finger unless given cold hard cash, or a credit card not over the limit. No checks, please.
And then the finger they’ll lift holds a knife.
[HT: Arlene]

58 thoughts on “The Parable of the Good Abortionist”

  1. Again, like Susan Wicklund, this is not the greedy abortionist who doesn’t care about women that you all so love to demonize.

  2. I believe most doctors who perform abortions are probably very dedicated (and most could earn more money doing other things)

  3. ok, so your views on Jesus are “accurate” and someone else’s are a “misrepresentation.” See the problem with religion as a rationale for anything?

  4. Well, Jill, it appears we have a fundamentally different interpretation of what Jesus said, because this guy strikes me as far more Christian in his values and practices than a lot of people who trumpet their Christianity. As for crazy, do you, who compared a construction fence on an empty lot to Auschwitz, really want to go down that road?

  5. Greedy or not (prove he isn’t), he slaughters the innocent children proaborts so love to demonize.
    Actually, most abortionists are the cream of the crap of the medical profession…if, of course, they even have medical degrees; not all do. Some started out practicing legitimate medicine, but doing abortions on the side for the extra cash (It’s quite lucrative). But then, for some odd reason, they found themselves looked upon as dirty, shunned by real doctors…After all, it seems that if all you want to do is become a serial killer, why go to medical school? Oh, yeah…so you can do it legally, and make money doing it.
    If reading the parable of the Good Samaritan “led” this guy to kill babies, then he’s functionally illiterate. They always twist scripture to mean the exact opposite of what it clearly says to someone pure enough to read it aright.
    Yes, they’re dedicated…to slaughtering innocent children and endangering their mothers, not to preserving human life. As to whether they could earn more money doing other things…maybe the bloodlust does take precedence even over greed. But any one who cares about real health care would gladly take a cut in pay, if necessary, to save innocent human life. I know plenty of pro-lifers who have done just that.

  6. You’re missing the obvious contradiction. There are hundreds of pregnancy crisis centers around the country, willing to give money, time and counsel to pregnant women.
    This man offers them what is, at best, an amputation and at worst, murder of their child. He’s not saving them from anything. Even abortion proponents admit that the less abortions the better – they see it as necessary (or the lesser of two) evils. There’s no heroism in this business.

  7. For all those who are supporting this abortionist version of “The Good Samaritan”.
    You are saying that women who get abortions are beat upon, stripped naked and left for dead. And that is it wasn’t for the abortionist they would indeed BE dead.
    Once again, in the attempt to defend abortion you are making women out to be weak and unable to defend themselves. You are saying that if it wasn’t “for the man” so to speak, we would still be in the gutter needing to be pulled out for we cannot do it ourselves.
    Give me a break. I’ll say it one more time: Women are stronger than that.

  8. Actually, most abortionists are the cream of the crap of the medical profession…if, of course, they even have medical degrees; not all do.
    Do you have some evidence to back up such a sweeping statement, “life lynx”? I suspect that the various state medical associations and licensing boards involved might not agree.

  9. “There’s no heroism in this business.”
    I think in this day and age it takes some courage to be willing to provide abortion services to women.

  10. “…this guy strikes me as far more Christian in his values and practices than a lot of people who trumpet their Christianity”
    ————————————
    You have GOT to be kidding?!!! How can killing be in line with Christianity (in any normal form)?
    Methinks you are reading too much of the gospel according to PP.

  11. After viewing their website, I must say that their chosen logo (of two parents with a baby snuggled in their arms) is totally contradictory to their cause.

  12. On their website linked above, they have a PDF which you can download called “Why I Provide Abortions.” Melanie A. Gold gives the quote of the day
    “Providing abortions is the one thing I do as a physician that I believe clearly
    saves lives.”
    You can’t make up stuff like this.

  13. Hal –
    There is a huge difference between being a hero and having courage.
    Having courage could be someone who bungi jumps off a bridge, that doesn’t make him a hero.
    However, I cannot think of one hero who isn’t courageous.

  14. “I believe most doctors who perform abortions are probably very dedicated (and most could earn more money doing other things)”
    Posted by: Hal at January 29, 2008 2:07 PM
    Just the kind of dedication I’d like to see in my doctor. I don’t think they have the interpersonal skills to do much else… They desperately need our prayers.

  15. Bobby –
    Don’t you know that women are so weak they can’t handle being pregnant. It would just kill them to remain that way. How can they stay pregnant like that and not die!
    huh? How in the heck does an abortion “save lives”? For 93% of all abortions all it does is make the woman’s life more convenient….they will still live without the abortion. It doesn’t save their lives.
    As a physician you would think she would know the difference between life and convenience.
    And someone wanted proof that abortionist are “cream of the crap”?

  16. Hmmm…whatever happened to the “first, do no harm” rule?
    I guess, it got thrown out…along with their basic morals and decency.

  17. And someone wanted proof that abortionist are “cream of the crap”?
    That was me, and I still haven’t seen it.

  18. Also from the PRCH website:
    “I am encouraged that many doctors who never provided surgical abortions are now offering medication abortion. Eighty-seven percent of U.S. counties have no abortion services, forcing women to travel long distances or forego the procedure. If we want to counteract this dearth of services, the reproductive health community must encourage more physicians to offer medical or surgical abortions. We know from other countries that mifepristone could be used more widely for medication abortion than it is today. But doctors may need encouragement to overcome their fears of harassment and stigma if they provide abortions. I hope this latest data will lead physicians already using medication abortion to educate their peers about the method and encourage its use. Women can also expand access to abortion by asking their physicians to provide this valuable and effective option in the privacy of their offices.”
    Jill, Are physicians in the U.S. falling for this? Are there physicians’ groups that are speaking out against these tactics? It’s crazy!! They need our prayers too!

  19. Hal:
    Don’t for one minute think that mine, MK’s, Bethany’s, Kristen’s and Bobby Bambino’s, Anon(s)? discussions on Jesus and the Church in any way waters down the truth that abortion is murder and is absolutely despised by the Creator.
    The one thing we believers have in common is that we are seeking the Truth, that is Christ and trying to live our lives to please Him. We are limited by our experiences, our prejudices, and limited minds, however, you can be sure that the Jesus we seek to please and love and follow and worship is the same Jesus you reject. In fact, a lot of Christian fellowship takes place on this site.
    If the Lord wants me to convert back to Catholicsm I am open to that. I just want what He wants and am trying my darndest under severe handicap to accomplish that. He knows His follower’s hearts and He understands each of our weaknessess. I learn a great deal from the honest and frank discussions about our faith perspectives here. In fact, I am going to take BB’s suggestions to study church history more thoroughly. Who knows what will result. I only want to please my Lord.
    I love Him as best I can and sans perfection, but no matter what I do in this life, would never be enough to equal what He did for me on that cross.
    You my friend, and this is in your face truth, have surrendered to the hopelessness of faithlessness, a remedy for which does not exist, except in the person of Christ.
    So far, your views have resulted in the deaths of your first two children. In mercy God gave you two more beautiful daughters, and that’s hard for a human being like me to understand.
    Stop spitting in His face. I invite you to accept Him as your Savior according to the tradition which he draws you to. In any event, the narrow road starts with the first step. We are here to help you.

  20. Ray –
    A physician doesn’t know the difference between life and convenience and that isn’t enough for you?
    okay – how about I go to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics? oops….I can’t….why? Because Abortionist isn’t listed? OB/GYN is….family physician is…..internal medical doctor is….surgical physician is (with a break down of specific surgerys but abortion isn’t listed)…I can go on…but I think you get my point.
    There are no set rules or requirments to call yourself an abortionist. A registered nurse can call herself an abortionist without any OB/GYN experience. This is why many clinics (especially in WY and KS) are trying to stop state laws making them be a licensed Ambulatory Care Center – because then there would be standards placed on the people who care for the women and perform the abortions.
    AND I cannot find any clinic anywhere in America where surgeries are performed (go to guttmatcher – they say abortion is the safest surgery someone can have) and not regulated by the state. However, abortions can be.

  21. HisMan, I truly do not believe that God thinks that abortion in the first term and a half or so is murder. I believe that God agrees that to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term who does not want to do so or who feels she is unprepared to properly raise a child is a greater evil than to terminate the pregnancy. Honestly, I believe that he rolls his eyes at fervency like yours, exemplified by your capitalization of pronouns, among other things. Am I going to hell? You might think so, but I don’t, and I don’t think Willie Parker or Susan Wicklund are, either. I am very comfortable with my spiritual model of God, and frankly, it is folks like you who are spitting in his face, not me.
    You antis will never win this thing by going all hyper-religious. It is the surest way to turn off a large, moderate segment of the population.

  22. “I just want what He wants and am trying my darndest under severe handicap to accomplish that …I only want to please my Lord.”
    Oh Hisman, that’s just wonderful. It is that kind of love for Our Lord that brings a tear to my eye. Rest assured, you are in my prayers.

  23. Ray:
    Your Self-Talk Is Self-Deceipt. You Know Nothing Of What The Creator Thinks About Abortion. (what a silly conclusion you make about pro-nouns – got anything better than that).
    Why in the world would HHHHHHHe allow conception only to have it terminated. Have you ever heard of the Commandment, “Thou Shalt Not Murder”?
    You asked for it so here it is.
    Abortion is an affront to the creative nature of God, it negates God as Creator,
    Abortion denies the power of God to right a wrong, it negates God as Redeemer,
    Abortion makes that which is good, the birth of human life, into that which is evil, the death of human life, and then calls it good, the very definition of blasphemy,
    Abortion negates the resurrection power of God as it takes flesh that is alive in it’s earthly abode (the womb) and kills it, while God takes that flesh which is dead in it’s earthly abode (the grave) and desires to make it alive,
    Abortion’s desire is to take that which was composed from the chaotic array of elemental molecules into a symphony of life infused with an eternal soul, and turn it back to the entropy of randomness, chaos, nothingness, uselessness.
    Abortion is against all that is hopeful, all that requires faith for success; for it’s solution; annihilation, it’s goal; death, it’s dream; breaking God’s heart, it’s vision, Satan’s ultimate power.
    Abortion is a counterfeit, for the clawprints of Satan are everywhere to be found in its performance;
    Abortion disguises hate as love, bondage as freedom, choice as maturity, sin as righteousness, political correctness as wisdom,
    Abortion pits men against women, mothers against their children, fathers against God,
    Yes, abortion is Satan’s feeble attempt at killing God Himself, for abortion is a metaphor for Satan; it is his coat of arms, his family crest, his logo, his brand, it belongs to him……for he laughs at its willing proponents as they craft their own self-destruction, mantled in self-deception.
    Copyright 2007, 2008 by HisMan

  24. ” I believe that God agrees that to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term who does not want to do so or who feels she is unprepared to properly raise a child is a greater evil than to terminate the pregnancy”
    I believe that God agrees that if you can’t be responsible for your actions then you shouldn’t be having sex.
    Kinda like the “thou shalt not commit adultry” that is in the Commandments. Right along with “Thou shalt not kill” and “Thou shalt not covet your neighbors wife/good”.
    If you truly read Gods laws you will see that it is all about being responsible for your actions and your life. It is irresponsible to lie. It is irresponsible to kill…..etc. AND many many many societies have used the laws to set up there own laws. This is why the Ten Commandments can legally be in courthouses in certain situations – if they are shown in the legal sense and not the biblical sense – because our laws are based on God’s laws.
    So…how does this apply? Because these laws are set in place along with punishments if you violate them. If you lie to someone it isn’t much of a big deal unless you lie by committing fraud. If you murder someone it is a huge deal unless it is in self defense.
    It’s the hole Action + Consequences = Responsiblity. If you can’t hand’t the Consequences then you shouldn’t be doing the action.

  25. We CAN handle the consequences, handle them through abortion at times. Thus, I guess we can be “doing the action.”

  26. Ray, you help troubled pregnant women by addressing their problems, not by treating them as if THEY are the problem because, dumb bunnies that they are, they have functioning uteri.
    Scrape her out and send her back to her abusive mate. Scrape her out and leave her homeless or unemployed. Scrape her out and let her stepfather keep raping her. No matter what her situation, just scrape her out, take her money, and your duty to her is discharged.
    That’s not comassion. That’s putting women on an assembly line and ignoring their humanity.

  27. Hal, show me ONE place in Scriptures where Jesus endorses solving your personal problems by killing somebody small and helpless.
    Actually, he speaks out pretty strongly against encouraging others to sin — which is something abortionists do for a living, and their cheerleaders do every time they open their mouths and spout words about how Jesus is okay with abortion.

  28. valorie, thanks to abortionists these women *are* dead.
    Now, be careful to go through, pick out the ILLEGAL deaths to be outraged over, and the LEGAL deaths to blow off as something only an antichoice fanatic could possibly get their panties in a twist over.
    Keep telling yourself, “Only the ILLEGAL deaths were tragic. Only the ILLEGAL deaths were tragic. Only the ILLEGAL deaths were tragic.”

  29. “We CAN handle the consequences, handle them through abortion at times. Thus, I guess we can be “doing the action.”
    um….lets see…
    How can you tell if something is evil?
    One way is how that something can affect an entire society. This would make that thing evil.
    Abortion – the delusion that women can control their reproductive systems – has led to an uneven balance of males and females in China and India. History and psychology shows that when a society is overpopulated by males that society becomes violent.
    So, lets see….. – abortion for the delustion of female independence has led to female species endangerment which can lead to a violent society.
    Exactly how is this action a responsible one when this action is primarily used for evil. (See Christina’s post 4:43PM)
    oh – and this delusional independence has led to approxamatly 90% of Down syndrom “fetus” being aborted.
    Can you name me any other form of “responsiblity” that has led to such destruction and still be considered a good thing?

  30. “Hal, show me ONE place in Scriptures where Jesus endorses solving your personal problems by killing somebody small and helpless.”
    I don’t really follow your bible closely. My point is that the fact that the same bible can be used by a doctor who performs abortions to justify his carerr decision and used by people who want to take the right of abortion away from women to justify their beliefs. The Bible certainly speaks against sin, but apparently followers of Christ can have different views on whether abortion is a sin. That stikes me as something; ironic, strange, funny?

  31. Hal, your observations about the discrepancies of people who say they believe the same Bible on the surface appears true, however, the Lord Himself says, “it is not those who say Lord, Lord, who will enter the Kingdom of Heavem but those who do the will of my Father in Heaven”.
    Obviously from this quote actions and how a Christian conducts his or her life matters to God, not just whether or not they say they are Christians and believe the Bible.
    The subject abortionist equates rescuing a woman from her pregnancy as an act of charity or that of a “Good Samaritan”. Sadly, he does not balance his actions with the whole of Scripture. He is deceived. And…..who can know his heart or mind or motives other than God? He may be in it just for the money and is self-justifying and soothing his conscience by making claims that are just not consistent with the whole of Scripture.
    The Bible also talks about at the last judgement where many who “thought” they were Christians are in fact deemed evildoers. Jesus says at that time, “whatever you did unto to the least of these my brethren, you did unto Me”. Who can be more least than a child in the womb?
    That is why in my definition of abortion I say that abortion is an attempt at killing God Himself – knowingly or unknowingly.
    Ignorance of something that could have been realized by faithful prayer, study, devotion and action in response to the Lord will not be an acceptable excuse at the Last Day.

  32. Ray, I have some doubts whether you’d see it if stared you in the face or know it if it bit you in the butt; however, so no other readers are taken in by your sneering stupidity, I personally know one woman who used to do surgical abortions with NO formal medical training or degree because the M.D. abortionist she worked for was often too drunk, high, or busy, to do them himself. She would often come to work and find him passed out and lying, naked, in his own vomit. And this is your notion of high medical standards? Mercifully, it finally dawned on her that her employment with him was not “helping women” (there are several documented maternal deaths at his incompetent hands, and probably many more that did not see the light of lawsuits.) Then of course there was the death mill in Alabama that the health department shut down about 2 years ago because some medical genius tried to do an RU-486 abortion on a woman who they said was 7 weeks pregnant (the latest those killings are done)but was actually closer to 7 months…with no doctor present.
    And speaking of iceberg tips, check out
    http://www.abortionviolence.com/quiz.html.
    to Hal, would you find the same strange, ironic humor if you were the victim of the barbaric slaughter to which you subjected two of your children? I doubt it…very strange, and more than a little disturbing…
    Cheers!

  33. Hal,
    I really don’t know why you even approach this subject. It seems to me that if you cared even a little bit about your wife, you would have had a vasectomy before making her kill your second child. Not causing the pregnancy would have been kind of noble, instead of standing by while your child was sliced up in your wive’s womb.
    Your posting on this site reeks of self-justification and no matter how many times you try to convince yourself otherwise, your complicity in your children’s deaths won’t go away. No matter how you try to make up a god who agrees with you and your actions. You keep bringing up the idea of forcing someone to carry a pregnancy to term — that just sounds like your own personal cop out.
    You are a user of women — shame on you.

  34. dumb bunnies that they are
    You are the one calling women dumb bunnies, Christina. I, on the other hand, believe that women are intelligent and better qualified than anyone else to decide whether they are prepared to raise a child or not.
    That’s a crafty tongue you have there, HisMan. Too bad I don’t buy a word of what you have said.

  35. “No matter how you try to make up a god who agrees with you and your actions.”
    Believe me, I have no intention of making up a god who agrees with me. I leave that exercise to you guys.
    I was just pointing out that some who believe in God as much as you think that abortion is not a sin.
    I personally don’t think there is a god who likes or does not like abortion. So, I’ll stay out of the theological debate

  36. Ray, you help troubled pregnant women by addressing their problems, not by treating them as if THEY are the problem because, dumb bunnies that they are, they have functioning uteri.
    Scrape her out and send her back to her abusive mate. Scrape her out and leave her homeless or unemployed. Scrape her out and let her stepfather keep raping her. No matter what her situation, just scrape her out, take her money, and your duty to her is discharged.
    That’s not comassion. That’s putting women on an assembly line and ignoring their humanity.
    Posted by: Christina at January 29, 2008 4:43 PM
    ………………….
    What are you doing to prevent domestic violence and sexual abuse? What are you doing to aid the abused?
    Many businesses in Santa Fe are electing to train their employees to aid dv victims and putting signs in their windows to designate themselves as safe havens. Why haven’t I heard of church groups doing such?

  37. Ray, I have some doubts whether you’d see it if stared you in the face or know it if it bit you in the butt; however, so no other readers are taken in by your sneering stupidity, I personally know one woman who used to do surgical abortions with NO formal medical training or degree because the M.D. abortionist she worked for was often too drunk, high, or busy, to do them himself. She would often come to work and find him passed out and lying, naked, in his own vomit. And this is your notion of high medical standards? Mercifully, it finally dawned on her that her employment with him was not “helping women” (there are several documented maternal deaths at his incompetent hands, and probably many more that did not see the light of lawsuits.) Then of course there was the death mill in Alabama that the health department shut down about 2 years ago because some medical genius tried to do an RU-486 abortion on a woman who they said was 7 weeks pregnant (the latest those killings are done)but was actually closer to 7 months…with no doctor present.
    And speaking of iceberg tips, check out
    http://www.abortionviolence.com/quiz.html.
    to Hal, would you find the same strange, ironic humor if you were the victim of the barbaric slaughter to which you subjected two of your children? I doubt it…very strange, and more than a little disturbing…
    Cheers!
    Posted by: life lynx at January 29, 2008 6:15 PM
    ……………………………………..
    Why didn’t your friend report this doctor? How did she deem herself competent enough to perform abortions? How many deaths did she cause?

  38. What are you doing to prevent domestic violence and sexual abuse? What are you doing to aid the abused?
    I could ask you the same thing, Sally. What are you doing to prevent those things? What are you doing to aid abuse victims?

  39. Hal —
    I’m sorry, of course you don’t believe in any god because you think you are a god yourself — having power of life and death.
    Why do you post here? Loving abortion and prideful that you killed your own flesh and blood — power over the poor woman you repeatable impregnated? Loving yourself so much that you only have children that serve your purposes, and kill those that are inconvenient? Afraid to look like less a man if your wife gave a child up for adoption? In fact, it seems that you don’t look like much of a man — if you can’t even face up to your responsibilities….
    Or are you a profiteer and just got those abortions ‘on the house’?
    I hope your daughters meet some real men who respect them and any children they produce. I hope your family breaks the chain of violence and abuse.

  40. What are you doing to prevent domestic violence and sexual abuse? What are you doing to aid the abused?
    I could ask you the same thing, Sally. What are you doing to prevent those things? What are you doing to aid abuse victims?
    Posted by: Bethany at January 29, 2008 7:29 PM
    ……………………………………….
    I support legislation and organizations that promote serious education and law to prevent and aid DV/sexual abuse victims. I do this in many ways.
    Why don’t you answer the same question posed?

  41. Sally –
    I do it by volunteering at the local woman’s shelter. I help women who have to leave their house with just the clothes on their backs and their children in their arms. No purse. No car. No checkbook. Just them. I get people to donate to this cause so that these women can have a sense of respect and self worth.
    I also help out with the local Project Gabriel and O’Connor House. Project Gabriel gets women prenatel care, Dr. who will take care of them, help them fill out paperwork for proper insurance/medicaid help. The O’Connor house provides shelter to pregnant women who have no where to go. We help them with their resume so they can get a good job. And if they don’t have much to put on a resume we tell them about Pell Grants and other government funding so they can get a free education. Most women don’t even know that stuff is available. I’m sure the local planned parenthood doesn’t know about it either.
    I support bills like the Elizabeth Cady Stanton Pregnant and Parenting Student Services act which would provide help for women who actually choose to keep their child while still in college. You see, right now there really isn’t a choice for a college student who gets pregnant. It is either drop out – statistics showing that most women find it difficult to go back – or have an abortion. That’s not really much of a choice is it? This act will help woman have their children and stay in school. Most feminist organizations have trashed it and democrats have stalled it in congress.
    thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.01088:
    I lobby my local congress to apply stiffer penelties for abusers. I have been on letter writing campaigns and called many homes to get other people active on this subject.
    oh – did I forget to mention that I accomplish all this through my Church? I also drive around with a bumper sticker on my car to let people know about Project Gabriel. I’ve had people ask me about it too.

  42. Sally –
    I do it by volunteering at the local woman’s shelter. I help women who have to leave their house with just the clothes on their backs and their children in their arms. No purse. No car. No checkbook. Just them. I get people to donate to this cause so that these women can have a sense of respect and self worth.
    I also help out with the local Project Gabriel and O’Connor House. Project Gabriel gets women prenatel care, Dr. who will take care of them, help them fill out paperwork for proper insurance/medicaid help. The O’Connor house provides shelter to pregnant women who have no where to go. We help them with their resume so they can get a good job. And if they don’t have much to put on a resume we tell them about Pell Grants and other government funding so they can get a free education. Most women don’t even know that stuff is available. I’m sure the local planned parenthood doesn’t know about it either.
    I support bills like the Elizabeth Cady Stanton Pregnant and Parenting Student Services act which would provide help for women who actually choose to keep their child while still in college. You see, right now there really isn’t a choice for a college student who gets pregnant. It is either drop out – statistics showing that most women find it difficult to go back – or have an abortion. That’s not really much of a choice is it? This act will help woman have their children and stay in school. Most feminist organizations have trashed it and democrats have stalled it in congress.
    thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.01088:
    I lobby my local congress to apply stiffer penelties for abusers. I have been on letter writing campaigns and called many homes to get other people active on this subject.
    oh – did I forget to mention that I accomplish all this through my Church? I also drive around with a bumper sticker on my car to let people know about Project Gabriel. I’ve had people ask me about it too.
    Posted by: valerie at January 29, 2008 8:27 PM
    ……………………………………………..
    Did you fornicate and become pregnant out of wedlock? Did it dim your dreams of fulfilling your potential? Do you join Jill’s dream of all women being hindered by their bad luck and biology?
    In what capacity do you serve at the local women’s shelter? Donator of used clothing? Through a church drop box? What?

  43. Sally —
    Why do you feel the need to belittle the good works of others? Is that how you feed your high horse?
    Does killing babies make you feel powerful? Does the fact that some women have sucessful lives even after having a child out of wedlock upset you? The fact they have the ability and good fortune to mother upset you?
    Why do you love abortion so much and hate good women so much?

  44. Per Sally:
    Do you join Jill’s dream of all women being hindered by their bad luck and biology?”
    Sally,
    You have a hangover today too Sally or just high again?
    Hindered by bad luck and biology? Look at the statistics Sally. The vast vast majority of women abort because they were not using birth control properly or consistently or not at all.
    Not because of “bad luck”
    Where does the bad luck come in? That you were born too stupid to follow the directions on the condom box or born too lazy to take a pill at the same time everyday?? Not rocket science Sally.

  45. Sally –
    Did I not say I volunteer? I believe I did. I take laundry home so the women can have clean clothes and not some dusty musty smelling article of clothing that someone pulled out of their attic. I take in canned goods and boxed dinners. I do donate my children’s clothes that they have outgrown and their shoes. I also donated a dinning room table and had a friend of mine who works at Thomas (RCA) to donate a computer to a woman who had the skills to work from home and just needed the supplies to do it.
    And no, I did not get pregnant out of wedlock. Does that make me a bad person? That I was responsible with my body? oh…and I didn’t get married until I was 30.
    Why does it anger you so that a Church going person has access through her Church to help people?
    Here is some information about the Catholic Church which has appx 22% of the US population listed as Catholic:
    Catholic Charities
    Social Services
    More than 1,673 local Catholic Charities agencies and institutions provided services to 7,449,119 unduplicated individuals in need of help in 2004.
    Provided Services that Build Strong Communities to 3,618,993 people
    Social support services 1,698,047
    Education and enrichment 768,021
    Socialization and neighborhood services 609,149
    Health-related services 234,635
    Services to at-risk populations 331,141
    Provided Food Services to 6,360,939 people
    Food banks and food pantries 2,373,087
    Soup kitchens 1,826,738
    Congregate dining 1,232,217
    Home delivered meals 279,345
    Other food services 649,520
    Provided Services that Strengthen Families to 1,093,339 people
    Counseling and mental health services 468,844
    Immigration services 341,087
    Addiction services 97,980
    Refugee services 77,801
    Pregnancy services 65,718
    Adoption services 41,909

    Provided Housing Related Services to 474,999 people
    Housing services 171,787
    Temporary shelter 139,938
    Supervised living 102,297
    Permanent housing 41,424
    Transitional housing 19,553

    Provided Other Basic Needs Services to 1,384,101 people
    Financial Assistance (not rent, mortgage, etc.) 154,637
    Clothing Assistance 533,828
    Utilities Assistance 167,510
    Assistance with Purchase of Prescriptions 47,136
    Additional Other Basic Needs Assistance 480,990
    Provided Disaster Services to 99,863 people
    oh….those big bad Catholics have the nerve to help people? Just think – Over 80% of the population is Christian and well over 10% of the population are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu..etc. All those numbers above are just what 22% of the population has done!

  46. Am I going to hell? You might think so, but I don’t, and I don’t think Willie Parker or Susan Wicklund are, either.
    It’ll be nice waving at you from the other side, Ray. Or maybe I guess that would be waving down at you. :)

  47. Hal, you can’t follow Christ and endorse abortion. You can only endorse abortion and insist that Jesus is okay with it after the fact.
    One might as well insist that you can “follow Ghandi” and go on a rampage with a AK-47.

  48. Ray, I’m saying that the the abortion advocacy is dismissing women as just dumb bunnies that need to be kept from breeding. But I guess rhetorical manuvers like that are lost on you.

  49. Sally, then you’ve not be paying any attention.
    The CPC, if a woman goes there, will help the woman address the totality of her situation. The abortion clinic takes her money, kills her baby, then enjoys getting patted on the back for being such paragons of compassion.
    They’re vultures preying on women in bad stituations. If they get the women out of the bad situation, they lose a potential repeat customer. It’d be financial suicide to actually HELP her.

  50. You know, the Good Samaritain would have gone to hell. He wasn’t a Jew or a Christian. And since you guys keep saying you can’t get in by good deeds alone, well, that nice dude is pretty much screwed.

  51. Abortionists are invariably greedy quacks who would have been suspended from a real medical practice, who see the opportunity for fast, huge profits by putting contract killings on an assembly line in their abortion mill, usually violating dozens of state laws and medical and safety regulations, because of the loss of profits to comply. They exploit mothers who are being prodded and coerced into their filty, unsafe abortion mill by rapists, boyfriends, fathers, other relatives, employers, teachers, or coaches who threaten them with abandonment, eviction, divorce, job termination, loss of scholarships, loss of college or sports careers, assault, or even murder.
    The abortion lobby is not promoting “choice”, but instead abortion mill profits.

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