What the other side is thinking
From the Los Angeles Times, January 22, a fairly candid op ed by Frances Kissling (pictured 1st), former president of Catholics for a Free Choice, and Kate Michelman (pictured 2nd), former president of NARAL. Am posting excerpts here. Read entire piece on page 2.
Abortion’s battle of messages
It’s not 1973. Pro-choice forces must adjust to regain the moral high ground.
… Since Roe, U.S. public opinion has been relatively stable and favorable to legal abortion. Early efforts to overturn Roe failed miserably. Given this reality, the anti-choice movement changed tactics. It no longer focused primarily on banning abortions but concentrated on restricting the circumstances under which abortion would be available. It succeeded in shifting public attention from broad support for legal abortion to strong support for restricting access. Twenty years ago, being pro-life was déclassé. Now it is a respectable point of view.

How did this happen? Did the pro-choice movement fail? Or did those opposed to abortion simply respond more effectively to the changing science as well as the social shift from the rights rage of the ’60s to the responsibility culture of the ’90s?
In the 1970s, the arguments were simple and polarized: Abortion was either murder or a woman’s right to control her body. The fetus, however, stayed largely invisible. The pro-choice movement stayed on the message offensive, tactically shifting in 1989 from women’s bodies to the “who decides” question posed by NARAL…. But this was rapidly parried by the anti-choice demand that we look at what was being decided, not just who was deciding….
Science facilitated the swing of the pendulum. Three-dimensional ultrasound images of babies in utero began to grace the family fridge. Fetuses underwent surgery. More premature babies survived and were healthier. They commanded our attention, and the question of what we owe them, if anything, could not be dismissed.
These trends gave antiabortionists an advantage, and they made the best of it. Now, we rarely hear them talk about murdering babies. Instead, they present a sophisticated philosophical and political challenge. Caring societies, they say, seek to expand inclusion into “the human community.” Those once excluded, such as women and minorities, are now equal. Why not welcome the fetus (who, after all, is us) into our community?
Advocates of choice have had a hard time dealing with the increased visibility of the fetus. The preferred strategy is still to ignore it and try to shift the conversation back to women. At times, this makes us appear insensitive, a bit too pragmatic in a world where the desire to live more communitarian and “life-affirming” lives is palpable. To some people, pro-choice values seem to have been unaffected by the desire to save the whales and the trees, to respect animal life and to end violence at all levels. Pope John Paul II got that, and coined the term “culture of life.” President Bush adopted it, and the slogan, as much as it pains us to admit it, moved some hearts and minds. Supporting abortion is tough to fit into this package.
… The specter of women forced into back alleys as a result of a one-time “mistake” has been replaced with hard questions about why women get pregnant when they don’t want to have babies.

In recent years, the antiabortion movement successfully put the nitty-gritty details of abortion procedures on public display, increasing the belief that abortion is serious business and that some societal involvement is appropriate. Those who are pro-choice have not convinced America that we support a public discussion of the moral dimensions of abortion. Likewise, we haven’t convinced people that we are the ones actually doing things to make it possible for women to avoid needing abortions….
It is inadequate to try to message our way out of this problem. Our vigorous defense of the right to choose needs to be accompanied by greater openness regarding the real conflict between life and choice, between rights and responsibility. It is time for a serious reassessment of how to think about abortion in a world that is radically changed from 1973.
The question is, how do those promoting and making money off abortion admit it is morally problematic? How do they admit products of conception may indeed be babies, but mothers should still chop them up and suction their brains out if inconvient? They can’t.
This column admits that ultrasounds work, graphic pictures work, stories of saving premature babies work, that today’s society is more responsible than the ’60s free lover society.
Kissling and Michelman were not entirely honest, however. The pro-abortion side has attempted a new tactic, to focus on contraception. Their complaints that abortion rights may be taken away at any minute are now accompanied by complaints of same for contraceptives. At first I thought this tactic might be difficult to combat. But so far, no. Kissling and Michelman admit this message has failed. The American public likely considers it typical hysteria, another real problem for pro-aborts.
[HT: moderator Valerie]
Op ed in entirety….
Abortion’s battle of messages
It’s not 1973. Pro-choice forces must adjust to regain the moral high ground.
By Frances Kissling and Kate Michelman
January 22, 2008
Thirty-five years ago, the Supreme Court affirmed in Roe vs. Wade that women have a fundamental right to choose abortion without government interference. Now, on this anniversary of that landmark decision, the United States has some of the most restrictive policies on abortion in the developed world. In contrast to Europe, the U.S. forbids the use of federal funds for abortions, and the Supreme Court has upheld state laws that require parental consent or notification, mandatory waiting periods and antiabortion counseling. The court’s 2007 decision on so-called partial-birth abortions was an unprecedented infringement on physician autonomy.
Since Roe, U.S. public opinion has been relatively stable and favorable to legal abortion. Early efforts to overturn Roe failed miserably. Given this reality, the anti-choice movement changed tactics. It no longer focused primarily on banning abortions but concentrated on restricting the circumstances under which abortion would be available. It succeeded in shifting public attention from broad support for legal abortion to strong support for restricting access. Twenty years ago, being pro-life was déclassé. Now it is a respectable point of view.
How did this happen? Did the pro-choice movement fail? Or did those opposed to abortion simply respond more effectively to the changing science as well as the social shift from the rights rage of the ’60s to the responsibility culture of the ’90s?
In the 1970s, the arguments were simple and polarized: Abortion was either murder or a woman’s right to control her body. The fetus, however, stayed largely invisible. The pro-choice movement stayed on the message offensive, tactically shifting in 1989 from women’s bodies to the “who decides” question posed by NARAL Pro-Choice America. But this was rapidly parried by the anti-choice demand that we look at what was being decided, not just who was deciding.
Science facilitated the swing of the pendulum. Three-dimensional ultrasound images of babies in utero began to grace the family fridge. Fetuses underwent surgery. More premature babies survived and were healthier. They commanded our attention, and the question of what we owe them, if anything, could not be dismissed.
These trends gave antiabortionists an advantage, and they made the best of it. Now, we rarely hear them talk about murdering babies. Instead, they present a sophisticated philosophical and political challenge. Caring societies, they say, seek to expand inclusion into “the human community.” Those once excluded, such as women and minorities, are now equal. Why not welcome the fetus (who, after all, is us) into our community?
Advocates of choice have had a hard time dealing with the increased visibility of the fetus. The preferred strategy is still to ignore it and try to shift the conversation back to women. At times, this makes us appear insensitive, a bit too pragmatic in a world where the desire to live more communitarian and “life-affirming” lives is palpable. To some people, pro-choice values seem to have been unaffected by the desire to save the whales and the trees, to respect animal life and to end violence at all levels. Pope John Paul II got that, and coined the term “culture of life.” President Bush adopted it, and the slogan, as much as it pains us to admit it, moved some hearts and minds. Supporting abortion is tough to fit into this package.
At the same time, women and their decisions have come under ever more powerful microscopes. The specter of women forced into back alleys as a result of a one-time “mistake” has been replaced with hard questions about why women get pregnant when they don’t want to have babies.
In recent years, the antiabortion movement successfully put the nitty-gritty details of abortion procedures on public display, increasing the belief that abortion is serious business and that some societal involvement is appropriate. Those who are pro-choice have not convinced America that we support a public discussion of the moral dimensions of abortion. Likewise, we haven’t convinced people that we are the ones actually doing things to make it possible for women to avoid needing abortions.
Let’s face it: Disapproval of women’s sexuality is a historical constant. So our claim that women can be trusted still falls on deaf ears. And when the choice movement seems to defend every individual abortion decision, rather than the right to make the decision, it too becomes suspect.
If pro-choice values are to regain the moral high ground, genuine discussion about these challenges needs to take place within the movement. It is inadequate to try to message our way out of this problem. Our vigorous defense of the right to choose needs to be accompanied by greater openness regarding the real conflict between life and choice, between rights and responsibility. It is time for a serious reassessment of how to think about abortion in a world that is radically changed from 1973.
Frances Kissling, a fellow at the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study, is the former president of Catholics for a Free Choice. Kate Michelman is the former president of NARAL Pro-Choice America and the author of “Protecting the Right to Choose



“Did the pro-choice movement fail?” How can you even ask that? It seems like Americans have accepted that women will have a right to terminate a pregnancy. Maybe the pro-life movement failed, but choice is alive and well.
“‘Did the pro-choice movement fail?’ How can you even ask that? It seems like Americans have accepted that women will have a right to terminate a pregnancy. Maybe the pro-life movement failed, but choice is alive and well.”
I don’t know how you can say what you did in the last sentence either. “Choice” may be “alive,” but it ain’t well, given the upholding of the partial birth abortion ban, the pro-life attitudes of the younger generations, and the continuing debate.
The pendulum is swinging, and these two women are at least honest enough to admit it. While I don’t agree with them on this serious issue, I respect their honesty in this piece.
They may be a little honest but they are still trying to figure out new ways to cleverly trick the public into thinking abortion is ok and should be legal.
sneaky devils they are.
Get out of your bubble.
Except to a tiny handful of fanatics – and trust me, pro lifers are always portrayed as fanatics – abortion rights have become part of the fabric of America.
The Repblicans go out of their way to avoid mentioning abortion during the debates.
The Parade of Fools this week garnered no media attention whatsoever.
Abortion doesn’t even make the list of the top ten issues Americans care about.
The next President will appoint at least two and as many as four Supreme Court Justices. Abortion rights will have little or no chance of being challenged for the next 30 years.
and trust me, pro lifers are always portrayed as fanatics
Yes, and portrayals by the media and by a group’s opponents are always scrupulously accurate, too.
You say that the pro-choice movement is being hysterical about efforts to restrict contraception. The message of the pro-choice movement is not simply that large swaths of the right-to-life movement consider the most commonly used and effective forms of contraception to be abortion and hope to ban it too. The pro-choice point is to expose the great irony rarely discussed in this debate–that the pro-life movement is opposed to prevention. You can’t want to ban abortion and make contraception hard to come by too. But that’s what the movement is after–and look what that strategy has resulted in countries that have implemented it: the highest abortion rates in the world. This is not about trying to convince the public you guys will ban birth control–it’s about revealing to the American public that you don’t care about preventing abortion–it’s prosecution you’re after.
FetusFascist –
If it has become part of the “moral fabric” of America, then why is there an internal dialogue within the pro-legal abortion movement over the very points being made in this editorial? The March for Life NEVER gets major attention – that’s something those of us who march each year become accustomed to. Back in April 2004, the organizers of the March for Women’s Lives were angry that they didn’t get the sizeable coverage they were looking for as well.
With public opinion polls showing shifting attitudes (with a larger ratio moving towards the pro-life viewpoint), some folks (like Michelman and Kissling) are openly expressing their frustration. Frankly, I think they have a better view of the pro-choice movement from their positions as former leaders than you do as a blog commenter.
The article brings to mind that the Pro-Abort side is confronting a generational shift. It is lead by Baby Boomers and speaks of the issue in Baby Boomer terms (freedom without consequences). What was appealing to that generation is not appealing to Gen X’ers or Millenials who have seen first hand the consequences of the Baby Boomer messaging. The younger generations saw the real fall out of the wave of divorices and broken families that resulted from the ’60’s messaging and are leary of most anything pushed at them in that way.
This shift is obvious by the numbers of 30 year and younger participants in the pro-life movement. It is also evident from the wide support of restrictions on abortion because the younger generations have a more nuanced understanding of the issue.
For pro-lifers it is important to stress the unreasonable-ness of unfettered abortion and stress the real-ness of the infant.
As this article points out, the old Baby Boomer message is not working for the other side and they just don’t know what to do. They are comfortable only in speaking in generalities and resorting to ad hominem attacks when questioned on specifics — which turns off the more skeptical younger generations. (Just look at Hillary vs Barrack and you can see that dynamic playing out).
There is some good research in business literature about marketing to the generations that is applicable to this. I would recommend checking out Howe & Strauss’ article in Harvard Bus. Rev “The Next 20 years: how customer and workforce attitudes will evolve” (July 2007). It is vital to understand that most of the mainstream media is mired in Baby Boomerism and it’s power to influence is being steadily undermined by alternative sources — so not having coverage of march is really unimportant — the only people swayed by old media have old media ideas anyway.
Per FF:”
Abortion doesn’t even make the list of the top ten issues Americans care about.”
FF:
Then why are you here all the time?
Parade of Fools?
Those who bought and continue to buy into the whole pro-choice movement are the fools.
Especially you who is such an ardent supporter and who continue to follow the lies that this whole movement was based on from the very beginning.
FF:
Then why are you here all the time?
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I love this debate, and abortion is an issue I care about.
My sisters and friends really don’t give it any thought, and none of the devout Catholics or Mormons I work with were even aware of the march on Tuesday.
For the vast majority of Americans, abortion is a non-issue. 1/3 of all adult American women have had an abortion, and even the fringe pro-lifers all know at least one good woman who’s had one.
(I’m always amazed by the number of people who don’t care about abortion now that the “bad kind” of abortion has been outlawed. You guys might have shot yourself in the foot on that one…)
“The pro-choice point is to expose the great irony rarely discussed in this debate–that the pro-life movement is opposed to prevention.”
Tina:
You are believing your own propaganda. Though I know many PL-ers who believe only in NFP, I know many others who do use contraception. National Right to Life specifically states in their mission that they do not have a stand on contraception. The Pro-Life Action League doesn’t mention it at all in any of their pro-life goals or statements. How many health centers that distribute contraception, but do not perform abortions (or refer for abortions, as does PP Express), are being protested? How many pharmacies have 24-hour prayer vigils? How many OB/GYN offices are being boycotted? None. This is not about contraception. Stop rationalizing your involvement in the PC movement by this argument propagated by PP and others who are seeking to marginalize the real issue.
Tina, you assertation is incorrect. The pro-life movement DIFFERS in how it aims to prevent pregnancy. To say that it is “opposed” is misleading.
In recent years, the antiabortion movement successfully put the nitty-gritty details of abortion procedures on public display, increasing the belief that abortion is serious business and that some societal involvement is appropriate.
Note that to Kissling and Michelman, it’s not a matter of people recognizing that abortion is “serious business”. It’s the development of “the belief” that it is.
Those who are pro-choice have not convinced America that we support a public discussion of the moral dimensions of abortion.
That’s because the moment you move to the “moral dimensions of abortion”, the prochoice argument crashes and burns. Any child on the playgrounds can grasp “Pick on somebody your own size.” And with ultrasounds now a routine part of prenatal care, it gets harder and harder for abortion advocates to cling to their claim that abortion doesn’t involve attacking and killing a very small, defenseless somebody. The idea that mothers should protect their children, not kill them, is also a no-brainer. Staying away from abortion’s moral aspects and sticking to slogans is a wise stategic move.
Likewise, we haven’t convinced people that we are the ones actually doing things to make it possible for women to avoid needing abortions.
The “need” for abortion exists in women’s heads, not their wombs. Going around promoting abortion as a cure all for anything that ails you isn’t going to accomplish squat to reduce reliance on abortion.
Let’s face it: Disapproval of women’s sexuality is a historical constant.
Where the heck did that come from? How do you look at people pleading for a baby’s life, and get, “They just are upset that his mother had sex in the first place”? This makes as much sense as looking at a program to stop domestic violence and saying, “These people just disapprove of marriage!”
So our claim that women can be trusted still falls on deaf ears.
The reason your “Trust Women” slogan “falls on deaf ears” is that you’re presenting women as untrustworthy. You hold up an inherently abhorrent behavior — a mother killing her own child — as some sort of proof that women can be trusted. Why not hold up Ted Bundy and Ed Kemper as proof that we should “trust men”?
I hope Michelman and Kissling continue to slog it out with other abortion advocates. They’re the best friends women and children can have within the prochoice movement: people saying, “Let’s really look at what abortion is, does, and means.” You can’t do that for long and still have a movement embracing the practice.
Go Christina! :D
FetusFascist “Abortion doesn’t even make the list of the top ten issues Americans care about.”
You repeat this over & over again, what seems like on a daily basis at times.
I googled it….here’s what I found:
CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Jan. 14-17, 2008. N=1,393 adults nationwide. MoE
(it may be a while, there were 3 links & it’s held up in limbo awaiting approval….)
(it may be a while, there were 3 links & it’s held up in limbo awaiting approval….)
Posted by: Anonymous at January 25, 2008 10:50 PM
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Approval from whom?
Here’s virtually every recent poll done by reputable firms on the priorities of current issues:
http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm
the anti-life movement is doomed because they abort their children.
the anti-life movement is doomed because they abort their children.
Posted by: Truthseeker at January 26, 2008 12:07 AM
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You’re hilarious.
Most of the pro-choice people on this board have children, and “pro-life” women like Carla and Sandy have abortions.
FetusFascist…you and your ultra liberal pals will do anything to deny the fact that abortion in this country is doomed.
Do you ever wish your mother had aborted YOU ?
Anonymous,
You’re post is up…thanks for your patience. If that ever happens again, you can email Bethany, Jasper or I. It might get it approved faster…notice I said “might”…lol. Bethany and tend to retire early and rise even earlier, so anything after 10pm might have to wait til 5am…
moderator,pls remove previous post from 6:47 and replace with this post below…thx
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You’re hilarious.
Most of the pro-choice people on this board have children, and “pro-life” women like Carla and Sandy have abortions.
Posted by: FetusFascist at January 26, 2008 12:55 AM
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Think real hard about this now ff.
abortion=baby killed=fewer children.
Yes, I had an abortion. I was pro-choice. I have 4 children. I am pro-life.
What’s your point, Laura?
Carla,
It’s interesting to note that she points out that two pro lifers have had abortions while most prochoicers have children, yet fails to note that she is one of the prochoicers that does not, in fact, have children.
The fact that Carla had an abortion, recognized her mistake, sought and was given forgiveness and now spends her time promoting the prolife cause speaks volumes about the person that she is.
Admitting ones mistakes only to be abused for it speaks volumes about other people.
Anonymous,
You’re post is up…thanks for your patience. If that ever happens again, you can email Bethany, Jasper or I. It might get it approved faster…notice I said “might”…lol. Bethany and tend to retire early and rise even earlier, so anything after 10pm might have to wait til 5am…
Posted by: mk at January 26, 2008 6:31 AM
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mk,
no problem, I doubt if she’ll read them anyway.
Thank you.
Thanks MK. :)
Here’s virtually every recent poll done by reputable firms on the priorities of current issues:
http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm
Posted by: FetusFascist at January 25, 2008 11:32 PM
Laura, REPUTABLE firms list EVERYTHING they ask. And in polls they DO ask. It’s obvious that they didn’t ask about abortion and therefore couldn’t post the results. Come on “reputable
Case in point…
“Now I’m going to read to you a list of issues that the U.S. Congress may address. Which one of the following issues do you think should be the top priority for the U.S. Congress to address: [see below]?” If “All”: “If you absolutely had to choose, which one issue would you say should be the top priority?”
Above from one of the polls. The “list” didn’t include abortion…
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“Let me list some issues that have been proposed for the federal government to address. Please tell me which one of these items you think should be the top priority for the federal government. [See below.]” If more than one: “Well, if you had to choose just one, which do you think should be the top priority?”
Again, abortion is not on the list…
“Which of the following issues will be MOST important to you when you decide how to vote for president: [see below]?”
What a surprise, again not on the list… Hmmm. You might have to stop using that line…
Shall I go on?
“How important is it to you that the President and Congress deal with each of the following issues in the next year? Is it extremely important, very important, moderately important, or not that important?
Nope, not there either…
Per FF:”
Abortion doesn’t even make the list of the top ten issues Americans care about.”
In fact of the polls that actually DO give abortion as an option to pick (VERY few compared to the number on the site) it is in ALL of the TOP TEN.
the anti-life movement is doomed because they abort their children.
Posted by: Truthseeker at January 26, 2008 12:07 AM
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You’re hilarious.
Most of the pro-choice people on this board have children, and “pro-life” women like Carla and Sandy have abortions.
Posted by: FetusFascist at January 26, 2008 12:55 AM
Demographic data clearly show that as a group women who have ever had an abortion have fewer total children per woman than those who have never had an abortion. Which is why researchers say that women who have abortions have a 30% higher incidence of breast cancer. Fewer kids means more breast cancer.
Just think of all the women who delayed having kids so they could have the careers that society wanted for them and then ended up dying of breast cancer before they got to see their grandkids. These are not hypothetical people. They are real women wh
They are real people whose deaths have been tallied on CDC and demographers tables.
(Sorry, I had a slip on the keyboard)