Quote of the Day 11-14-09
Céline Dion is no longer pregnant with a second child.
Despite the 41-year-old singer’s doctor announcing in August that she was pregnant via in vitro fertilization, it has now been revealed that the embryos transferred were unsuccessful.…
[Dion and husband René Angélil, 67] ha[ve] an 8-year-old son, René-Charles, who was also conceived by IVF after 6 years of trying. During the initial attempt to conceive her first child, Dion had her embryos frozen in liquid nitrogen.
Angélil revealed the couple will travel to NY this weekend for a 3rd try with Dr. [Zev] Rosenwaks….
“I admire all the women who go through such a tough process. Since April, she has undergone numerous examinations, multiple hormone injections and blood tests,” Angélil told the [Journal de Montreal]. “Céline and I didn’t get discouraged…. We put our faith in life and in the stars.”
~ New York Daily News, November 11
[HT: proofreader Laura Loo; photo via NY Daily News]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
How about God?
“Céline and I didn’t get discouraged…. We put our faith in life and in the stars.”
He didn’t say GOD, did he? No, he didn’t forget god, he was expressing the view, and the fact, that all of life’s results are based on probabilities. There is no personal god, listening to our every word, keeping score and answering some and ignoring others.
RCharles
God (the Trinity of the Bible) has chosen to bless this couple with one child and it is always His prerogative to choose what is best for us, whether saved or unsaved. It is very sad that it appears this couple has no saving faith, therefore their end is destruction.
Celine was raised Catholic, its too bad she didn’t try to conceive a child the old fashioned way. She should be glad she has one child. They COULD adopt if they wanted a second child and I am talking about a child that needs a home.
God keeping score? How about Romans 3:23 “for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” “There is none righteous, no not one.” Romans 3:10.
Pretty easy scorekeeping it would be. But that’s not how God works, He is not some cosmic stat taker. Neither did He leave us in our sin, rather showed fatherly love “he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” 1 John 4:10.
No personal God listening to our every word? Nope, He goes even beyond that, discerning the thoughts and intentions of our hearts (Hebrews 4:12). My God is a living God and I’m sorry, RCharles, you have not yet experienced Him. He wants very much to demonstrate to you just how personal a God He is. If you are intellectually honest enough, ask Him to reveal Himself to you, if He is real. Then hold on.
In the meantime, a foster child desperately waiting adoption slips through the cracks because a rich Celine Dion and hubby are more interested in killing a few of her own children in a mad attempt at caring for her own genetic offspring.
CC,
I don’t know. If René and Celine had just been content to do it the ‘old fashioned way’, which is usually always fun, (the worst sex I ever had was great, at least for me. We won’t ask my wife for the rest of the story.) then none of those little ones, including René Charles, would never have been.
We should wait a few years and ask RC about how he feels about being alive.
Then there is the biological reality that a certain number of human ovum never implant or spontaneously abort for whatever reason.
Whether or not Celine and RA choose to use extrarodinary mesures to achieve a pregnancy, there will still be foster children waiting for adoption.
I would have to believe that the Celine and RA give a lot of their money to the catholic church and to charities rather than see it go in taxes to the federal government where they will excercise little or no control in how or where it is spent.
This particular bell cannot be unrung. This specific train has left the station. The Celine/RA embryos are with us. We should pray that as many as God wills will live as long as God wills.
yor bro ken
RCharles:
Hate to bust your humanist bubble:
Romans 1:20
20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Colossians 1:16
16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
Personally, I feel sorry for them. I could never ride the IVF roller coaster of emotions. Not putting them down, just saying I couldn’t handle that stress
I think they misquoted. He meant, “life and in the Stars.” Meaning himself and Celine, of course ;)
Sometimes, you receive bits of wisdom from Our Creator. Rene and Celine received one such when they couldn’t conceive naturally. They chose to ignore it.
I get so frustrated when I hear stories of couples who tried for decades using all different methods to get pregnant, and then jubilantly do so and figure it’s all God’s will. Maybe God was giving you an opportunity, which you chose to overlook. Certainly, we all are subject to his Ultimate Will, but are we so arrogant as to assume anything we do is the equivalent of God’s will?
Personally, I am with CC on this. Celine and Rene had the money and time to spend on the adoption process. They could have chosen to see their trials as an opportunity. I’m sorry for them. I pray for the embryos they wantonly created.
klynn73 and Phil Schembri is HisMan
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you are quoting a book that was written by folks wandering the desserts of the middle east in the late iron age. There is no shred of evidence that anything in the bible is anything more than folk tales.
Man has a genetic disposition to believe, or, more likely, to hope and pray that there is life after death. But there is no acceptable proof. The more we learn of the universe the less evidence we have of a personal god involved in each and every life.
For me, no personal god is proven every time we find a terminal illness in a young child, who has no ability to understand or accept “god’s will”. Or the existence of severe genetic defects, which prove that we got to this point via evolution that is not perfect but, over time, is very successful.
Regards
RCharles
“Now is your time of grief, but I will see you again and you will rejoice, and no one will take away your joy.”
RCharles,
Read the Sunday Quote at the right. There is hope for the hopeless. Peace.
Hi Janet
Thanks for the reply.
Have to admit, though, that I have no belief in either the old or new testament. So the quote is meaningless to me.
The new testament was written more than 70 years AFTER the events; even today we can’t get a decent eye-witness account the day after. Not to mention that there were several other gospel versions of Jesus, all of which were suppressed by the church in it’s goal of maintaining total power.
Let me note that I am an agnostic, not an atheist. The universe, in all its vast scale and complexity, calls for a cause, something that started it. You can call it god and I won’t argue. But to think there is such a powerful god that would provide such little information yet expect such extreme personal devotion is, frankly, absurd.
Peace to you.
Ray
Hi RCharles (Ray),
You are welcome! You’ve made many interesting points.
I know this may not interest you in the least…. but maybe it will…I’m currently reading “Four Witnesses, The Early Church in Her Own Words”, by Rod Bennett. It’s quite interesting from an historical perspective alone if you aren’t concerned about theology. The book relates the stories of four different men: Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Justin Martyr, and Irenaeus of Lyon, who were voices in the early Church, as the name implies.
Have a good day.