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ABORTION IS NOT MURDER. FETUSES ARE NOT BABIES. WOMEN ARE NOT INCUBATORS!
A whole generation of women and men have been kept in the dark from these basic facts, and left disarmed in the face of this anti-women movement that will not stop nor find “common ground” with women’s right to control the most basic of decisions affecting their lives.
~Lina Thorne at RH Reality Check, discussing the need for pro-aborts to organize rallies and protests as pro-lifers have been doing, August 9
Aug.09, 2010 11:27 am |
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
It doesn’t matter how many times or how fiercely pro-aborts tell themselves this…..It doesn’t change reality. It doesn’t change biology. It doesn’t change logic. You cannot WILL something to NOT be something. Fetuses ARE babies. Not because I want them to be babies–indeed, it is an inconvenience to admit such a thing. But Women ARE mothers when they are pregnant. Incubators? Hardly. As a pro-life woman, I don’t consider women to be INCUBATORS. Why this hatred towards the unborn? The pro-aborts are so filled with hatred and self-loathing, it’s only a matter of time until the rest of the world wakes up and realizes we’re drowning in blood. And lies.
Somewhere Lina’s biology teachers are hanging their heads in shame. Wow. I guess women get pregnant with what, goldfish? And babies magically develop overnight before their mothers go into labor?
If Lina was educated in the public school system, I’m afraid and sad.
I guess her hatred towards the unborn and basically to motherhood itself is leaving the writer “blind” to facts and everything else.
I wonder why these pro-aborts feel “degraded” when they see/hear about pregnancy??
Great idea. Maybe they can show graphic pictures of the fetus and have a video of an actual abortion. It could be labeled, she did not scream! Dismemberment is not the same as murder! Or she did not want to live after all. She sleeps with the fishes because she was no more than an amphibian anyway ala Mary Tyler Moore or Small fetuses deserve no respect. Imagine the signs.
I was also imagining:
Kittens are not cats!
Puppies are not dogs!
Now, I’ve got to go buy a gift for my friend’s Fetus Shower. Maybe I can get her a “Fetus On Board” t-shirt.
I almost hope they do. When they talk like this all rational people can hear how ridiculous they sound.
Ashley, if all “antis” are liars, why do you keep coming here? Why bother listening to anything we have to say, if none of it is true?
Why do you care what any of us has to say, since your mind’s made up and we’re all horrible, evil liars who hate women and are simply “fetus worshippers?”
If I believed the way you do, I’d stay very far away and just write those sorts of people off. I wouldn’t keep coming back to pick fights because of a pro-choice documentary you watched.
Aren’t you going to direct us now to something on your blog so you can increase the traffic there?
I was going to comment but you all covered my thoughts so nicely. What a pathetic quote.
This woman lives in the Dark Ages, and hasn’t seen an ultrasound in her life. How about an ultrasound DURING an abortion, to see the “not a baby” fight for his/her life? I don’t think it would reach her hardened heart though…. Ignorance is a bliss on pro-abort side. Even abortionists confess they know it’s a baby and they know they’re killing him/her, but they’re not about to go and try to convince any pro-aborts about that – it’s bad for the business.
No, women aren’t incubators, they’re mothers. That’s the way we were created, that’s what our bodies are designed to do and that’s one of the differences between a man and a woman.
If abortion was no different than removal of a tumor, there wouldn’t be such controversy about it, it wouldn’t be such difficult decision (as even pro-aborts agree it’s a difficult decision to make) and it would be widely and openly talked about and women (girls) wouldn’t try to hide the fact that they had an abortion. So at least pro-aborts must admit that there actually IS something that’s not quite right with getting an abortion.
Exactly Vita. People don’t usually have post traumatic stress symptoms after a routine medical procedure. It abortion that goes against our natures. Outside a PP, a young man yelled to us that it was just like getting surgery. Really? Exactly how does a dead child resemble a removed appendix?
Ashley, I’m so sad for your deteriorating position. After watching Michael Moore’s contrived garbage, we should all have a healthy skepticism of documentaries. But let’s say for the sake of argument that ‘anti’s lie’. If a woman walks out of a pregnancy center with a handful of brochures or a referral to another agency, just how did that kill her child? It didn’t. But at abortion clinics, it’s like some sick death match: two people enter, only one leaves.
I don’t know if this person already has a child but I would like to pose this question:
If a woman is pregnant, “chose” to keep her fetus, then became a victim of a crime… and kills the fetus in side of her…Should the robber then be responsible for the death of her fetus? Would she allow that this robber not face any criminal charges at all with the death of her fetus?
I don’t understand the disconnect between the crime the robber committed to a “chosen” fetus and what the woman who “incubates” does to the unwanted fetus.
In both scenarios, the baby dies. But I guess the law has a different take on who is responsible and who has the right.
I just don’t get it.
Exactly Vita. People don’t usually have post traumatic stress symptoms after a routine medical procedure. It’s abortion that goes against our natures. Outside a PP, a young man yelled to us that it was just like getting surgery. Really? Exactly how does a dead child resemble a removed appendix?
Ashley, I’m so sad for your deteriorating position. After watching Michael Moore’s contrived garbage, we should all have a healthy skepticism of documentaries. But let’s say for the sake of argument that ‘anti’s lie’. If a woman walks out of a pregnancy center with a handful of brochures or a referral to another agency, just how did that kill her child? It didn’t. But at abortion clinics, it’s like some sick death match: two people enter, only one leaves.
Ashley, when it comes to the question of whether abortion is the ending of a human life, it doesn’t matter what you think about pro-lifers. Either abortion ends a human life or it doesn’t.
I wonder if maybe you’re afraid to be pro-life. It seems like every time you start leaning that way, you leave and then come back saying you’ve found out about some bad pro-lifers, so now you’re not going to be pro-life. I think maybe you’re going out of your way to find media about bad pro-lifers so you’ll have an excuse. I know it can be scary to change, and it can be scary to admit you did something wrong, especially when it’s something you can’t change. The thing is, though, pro-lifers could be the biggest lying jerks in the world and abortion would still end the life of an individual human being with unique DNA and a beating heart. Even pro-choicers can’t deny that without looking really ignorant.
I don’t know if this person already has a child but I would like to pose this question:
If a woman is pregnant, “chose” to keep her fetus, then became a victim of a crime… and kills the fetus in side of her…Should the robber then be responsible for the death of her fetus? Would she allow that this robber not face any criminal charges at all with the death of her fetus?
I don’t understand the disconnect between the crime the robber committed to a “chosen” fetus and what the woman who “incubates” does to the unwanted fetus.
In both scenarios, the baby dies. But I guess the law has a different take on who is responsible and who has the right.
I just don’t get it.
I don’t know if this person already has a child but I would like to pose this question:If a woman is pregnant, “chose” to keep her fetus, then became a victim of a crime (robbery)… the robber ends up killing the fetus in side of her…Should the robber then be responsible for the death of her fetus? Would she allow that this robber not face any criminal charges at all with the death of her fetus?I don’t understand the disconnect between the crime the robber committed to a “chosen” fetus and what the woman who “incubates” does to the unwanted fetus.In both scenarios, the baby dies. But I guess the law has a different take on who is responsible and who has the right.I just don’t get it.
Ashley, as a secular and otherwise liberal pro-lifer, I have to say, I find your posts to be very fascinating. You’re obviously struggling with the pro-life view, and drawn to it at the same time. You are probably feeling a lot of guilt, and also the need for validation. (These are not judgments! Just observations.) You are a thinking, intelligent person, and yes, there are a lot crappy pro-lifers out there. There are also a lot of crappy pro-choicers out there. There are a lot of NICE pro-choicers out there and a lot of nice pro-lifers too. It takes all kinds. As you might have noticed, though I am pro-life through and through, I am not a practicing Christian, and whole-heartedly support gay rights. I don’t support gay rights because I think it’s popular or sexy, I support gay rights because I believe it is the right thing to do. However, in all my research, and having been pro-choice myself once, there is NO argument offered by the pro-choice community that is not a slogan, or an excuse, or an obfuscation. Saying I am pro-life means alienating myself; I am an artist, a writer, and though I have never lectured my colleagues, once they found out about my pro-life position, I was blacklisted and ignored and judged by many. It’s not a sexy position, to be pro-life. And even though the numbers are growing, it isn’t “popular.” We don’t have rock stars and celebrities on our side, for the most part. We don’t have the media on our side. But we have the truth, and the truth is often ugly, and frightening, and sickening. The truth can make us angry. But there is beauty in truth, too, the truth that both women AND unborn babies are loved and that we can take care of BOTH their needs, not sacrifice one or the other. I am a woman, I would never, ever want to take away my own rights. I am not a traditionalist. But after examining this issue, front to back, up and down, left and right, there is only one conclusion, and that is: Abortion kills a human being, and cannot be justified. That does not mean I hate women who have had abortions, or feel compassion for women going through crisis pregnancies. I went through a crisis pregnancy too. As I get older, I realize, though it may cost me, I am not afraid to stand up and say to my pro-choice friends, “I am pro-life and nothing you say will shake that.” If that makes me unpopular, so be it.