MyDeathSpace.com
The media reported last week on the “world’s most famous fetus,” nicknamed Bubba Waring, with a facebook page updated by mom Claire from his or her imagined perspective.
If only every preborn baby had a facebook page. Every one of them has a story, a history, from the moment of conception.
Ah, the aborted babies. How eerie would it be to view their pages, see photos of mom, dad, sibs, grandparents, read their biographies, many sad or tragic, suddenly cut off.
I can get a sense of all that at MyDeathSpace.com, a sad, creepy site about deceased MySpace members….
Go there and click on “Latest Articles.” What you’ll read are short obituaries like, “Dana Mangi (25) was stabbed and strangled to death by a man she had known for 6 years.”
Or “Angela Werner (17) died from an alleged drug overdose and was found by her boyfriend.”
Then click on their MySpace page, where time has stopped with their last entry, “a de facto shrine to the deceased,” as Salon says, where you can view their favorite videos and photos, listen to their favorite songs, read their last entry, sometimes get clues to their future demise. The caption under a photo of Angela says, “Im not high i swear.”
Morbidly fascinating.
Read more about DeathSpace.com here and here.
Most of those listed on DeathSpace.com were young. They didn’t expect it. Such a tragic loss to the world.
Ah, the analogies.
[HT for Bubba: moderator MK; HT for MyDeathSpace: Uncommon Truths via Big Blue Wave]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
That’s pretty crazy and insulting Jill. Comparing embryos to beloved friends and family members is insensitive and callous.
Wow…. Just… Wow…
Jill, you really are a disturbed individual. I can really say nothing more than that.
Wow.
I take that back. You know what you are? You’re a seriously sick woman that needs severe psychiatric treatment, and possibly a good whack or two upside the head by a nine iron.
The fact that you’d go this far… If you ever dishonored the memories of my dead friends by comparing them to a fetus… I don’t even want to go into it.
Get help. You need it.
Danny,
You’re kidding right? Did you want to be the one to tell Bethany and others like her that her little “Blessing” should not be called a loved one? Or compared to a dear friend or referred to as a memory?
Someone needs a whack upside the head with a nine iron…but I don’t think it’s Jill.
And weren’t you just saying that you gave up violence and threats?
See you Saturday! Jill, bring a camera. There could be some interesting shots of Danny, Rosie, You and I…(and who knows, one of us might even have a nine iron stickin’ out the side of our heads!)
Why are you guys blaming Jill? She’s just telling you about it.
Danny, what’s your problem? You flipped the script! You were being a nice guy for a while there. I know you have a My Space, because it pops up when I click on your name. You’re a nice looking guy! Why does your attitude suck all of a sudden. I was reading that you were going to show up @ PP to meet Jill. You said “No more hiding behind that keyboard.” Are you okay?
You’re kidding right? Did you want to be the one to tell Bethany and others like her that her little “Blessing” should not be called a loved one? Or compared to a dear friend or referred to as a memory?
Thank you, MaryKay, I was about to say something about that, but was just a little shocked that Danny, who fancies himself so kind and caring, would be so callous. I thought I understood him, but I guess not.
Sally, Danny: Indeed this post is dark, disturbing, and eerie. Darker, more disturbing, and eerier is that you can’t/won’t connect the dots.
Danny, your ideations of physical violence are also creepy. Bring the 9-iron Saturday and be the 3rd pro-abort arrested at the mill (vs zero pro-lifers).
JKeller,
Wanted to make sure you saw this so I posted it here.
I notice that you spoke up to TexasRed earlier. Thanks.
She (and Sally and Laura) have seemed to have caught on yet that not only don’t we mind opposing views, we welcome them.
What we don’t welcome is endless insults and rudeness. There just isn’t a need. Maybe they’ll learn, maybe they won’t…it’s a shame, tho, if they leave never having experienced this site at it’s best.
Anyway, good job. That took guts. Thanks.
Jill,
What amazes me is the amount of suicides…so sad.
and many motorcycle and car accidents.
Dan,
Don’t threathen Jill again.
I agree with the others who think that this post is disturbing and twisted.
Embryos and fetuses are not babies no matter how hard the “pro-life” side screams that they are.
They are clumps of cells that have the potential to become a human life.
Anonymous, yes embryos and fetuses are babies. I don’t care how much you insist they aren’t.
Anonymous,
Since I’m assuming that you are either Laura or Red, I’m sure you’ll want all the attention you can get…so look under the words “Post a Comment”…if you will retype your name, we will all be able to know which delightful one of you we are addressing…
HOLD THE PHONE.
Where did I ever make an attack on Bethany? I hold nothing against Bethany. She’s been nothing but a sweetheart to me since I’ve been posting here.
I just honestly find this to be rather sick, disturbing, and disrespectful.
Oh, and Jill? No thanks. I’d rather be the bigger man and not let you bait me. Also, to Jasper and everyone else, I’M NOT MAKING A THREAT AGAINST JILL. I didn’t say I was going to hit her. I said she needed it, not that I was gonna be the one to do it. Seriously, chillax. The only time I fight now is when it is a necessity, and I refuse to raise my fist to a woman unless it’s a matter of life and death. Do not make me into something I’m not.
::sigh:: I just completely destroyed every single point I made about skinheads not being the bad guys here…
Actually neither.
And Heather, why do you think that they’re babies?
Why are all of these strange screen names popping up? Who are you?
Bethany and Lauren,
Please accept my humblest apologies. I just realized what I said, and words cannot describe how horrible I feel. I do mean what I’m saying right now, and what I said was not only impulsive and somewhat miscommunicated, but it was also callous and thoughtless to everyone else who reads here. Please, please, please know that I am grateful for how kind you’ve been, and that I truly feel like a heel, and I don’t deserve the forgiveness I’m asking for.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I’M MAKING SOMETHING CLEAR.
I did not threaten Jill, nor am I going to allow myself to be baited like a bear. I said that’s what I thought she needed, not that I would be the one doing it. I think that this post has truly been one of the most disgusting things I’ve seen in a long time, and that’s saying a lot.
Good day to you all. See you fellow FIBs on Saturday on the bright.
Peace
Love
Unity
Danny, you said that you aren’t going to allow Erin to tell you what to do anymore. Ah. Good old abortion. I gather you 2 aren’t even friends anymore.
Danny, if you were to meet Jill, you 2 just might become friends.
Danny, you lost your baby too. You are just refusing to acknowledge it. I believe that subconsciously, your LOSS is getting to you.
Danny, thank you. I know that you weren’t trying to be malicious. I forgive you.
I want you to think about something. Think about how you felt when you thought (correctly) that we were comparing your friends’ death to the death of a fetus. I mean, it was pretty obvious you were outraged!
Ok, now turn that around. That’s how we feel when people say that they’re NOT comparable.
You felt that comparing the deaths cheapened your friends’ life, and we feel that the same happens to the unborn when they are not compared.
Don’t worry about it Danny.
Everyone here knows you tend to react first and think later…but we all still love you anyway.
I’m sure Bethany will be pleased to know that you learned something from this…
I agree MK! Danny, I hope you do keep coming back. You aren’t grieving properly, because nobody [but pro lifers] ever told you it was okay to do so. If Erin is okay with the abortion, then so be it. What about you though?
As I posted before on the other battleground, enough about Erin. I haven’t spoken with her in a while. I’ve moved on, made my peace with the good memories, and maybe someday, we can be friends again. It’s not likely right now, and while I don’t bear her ill will, I don’t want her near me either.
I also don’t want to talk about her. She doesn’t dictate my life, how I live it, what I do in it, and what’s done is done. The abortion had nothing to do with our falling out, and what did happen will remain between her and I for privacys sake.
I’m going to ask again. Please stop talking about it, and Heather, no, I do not consider Jill to be anywhere near someone I want to call my friend. With what she’s said, and what she keeps throwing in my face, I’m not going to let her into my nice, armored little world. I’m safe here. She’s not allowed in. Done.
Well alrighty then. I guess you told me. PS, My compliment to you was not a pick up line, Dan. I was trying to be nice. BTW, I am married. Yeesh!
Danny, I can’t speak for everyone’s motives, but I for one do think about you being a post-abortive father when reading your posts.
I belive our experiences color what we believe. Since you had no real say in the matter, (not saying you didn’t support the abortion, just that utimately it wasn’t up to you) it seems to me at least that you simply had to find a way to make it ok.
That’s why I didn’t get too upset about your first post in this thread. I simply saw it from the perspective of someone who needed the unborn to not be equal to the born in order to keep going.
Perhaps I’m wrong about this, and you havn’t put a wall up around yourself to keep out any humanity of the unborn, but I don’t think so.
I know that when my son seemed to be at death’s door, I had to emotionally distance myself from the reality of the situation. I was lying in a hospital bed getting 8 different injections and pill cocktails a day, bleeding with partial placental abruption, and a ruptured membrane, and I acted like the situation was normal and that everything was ok.
I could not allow myself to believe the truth that the chances of my son living were slim to none. By the grace of God he DID live, but looking back I know that I was in complete denile.
Again, I’m not saying that you share this condition, only that I have empathy for you if you do. Please know that we all support you and do not want to pour salt on any wounds. However, we will also be here should you come to the realization that what you lost was equally precious as what is lost in any other death.
lauren, I shall second your beautiful post!
Sorry, Heather, but I do get rather defensive, as MK pretty much figured out with the game. I’m almost paranoid, but not really, if you know what I mean? It’s weird to explain, but sorry if I came off as harsh. Just protecting myself!
Oh Lauren,
That was beautiful. From one parent of a lost child to another…and he himself a still a child in so many ways…I hope you take that in the right vein Danny. It was meant from love, I’m sure.
Danny, it takes a lot to pi$$ me off. You haven’t even scratched the surface. I won’t bring up Erin anymore. Please try to let your anger toward Jill and others go. Anger is a waste of emotion. It will make you sick. *peace*
Lauren, thank you for both your forgiveness and kind words. At this moment in time, I’m pretty mucked up in my head, and I’m not really sure what I’m thinking, but I will get back to you on this, I swear it!
Thank you all for your kind words. Danny, rest assured it was definitely spoken (typen?) in love.
I am the queen of denial. When I was a not too terribly little girl our water heater caught fire with me in the same room.
My first thought “hmm, there are flames shooting out of the water heater, perhaps this happens every night as some sort of mechinism to heat water”
Thankfully, a few seconds later I realized “OH MY GOSH, THE WATER HEATER IS ON FIRE!!!” and ran out screaming.
Danny, if you’d like to talk my email is pope7446@gmail.com
@Lauren: Hahaha, cute story. :) I’m giggling out loud to myself right now!
mine is melandmad@yahoo.com
Haha, thanks Rae. I was totally in control though, I managed to grab a jacket before running out of the house naked…
Did I mention the water heater was in the bathroom? I didn’t just get naked for no reason!
I’ll do what I can, but I’m an angry person. Can’t help it… ::shrug::
@Lauren: Well that’s good! When I was living in the dorms this past year, we had one “fire drill” (a radiator in one of the laundry rooms blew up and smoke was everywhere) and this is about 10PM so people were showering but we had to evacuate the dorm. This is early April in Minnesota so it was still *very chilly* and there were people outside in nothing more than a towel or bathrobe!
Lauren…
YOU MAKE ME SMILE!
Horray! I made Danny smile. Do I get a cookie?
Don’t worry, Danny. I get angry too. Sometimes I write really mean things on here and delete them before I post. Sometimes though, they accidently get posted. Look at the stamp thread for some evidence of this in my response to Sally.
Rae, oh yeah I remember those dorm drills. My college was sadistic and actually scheaduled them for 3 AM.
We all get angry. I’m to the point where I hate to argue though. Especially with “drama queens.” I have a new one though. I told this argumentative lady “I’m not gonna lip box with you.” Then I walked away. That floored her. Remember, it tales 2 to argue. You can always walk away.
ARG, now *I* am angry. I have a question for everyone, would you consider a British study to be comperable to an American?
Yes Lauren, you’ll eventually get a cookie.
Heather, the easiest way to win an arguement is to yell, “Yeah? Well, F**K YOU!” Then you walk away. That leaves them speechless, and you with a smirk.
‘Rae,
This is early April in Minnesota so it was still *very chilly* and there were people outside in nothing more than a towel or bathrobe!
You hussy!
@Lauren: I almost prefer British studies to American ones a good portion of the time.
Everyone…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wCSXmJeRSQ
No, but if anyone has some spare time, go out and rent This Is England. Probably the best indie film I’ve seen all year, and definitely the best portrayal of skinheadism when it started, back when they didn’t think they were racists, but nationalists…
Good stuff, I tells ya!
Lauren,
I don’t know…it depends. Is it a study on George Bush or Fish and Chips?
@MK: Now did I say *I* was one of them? Nope. I was fully clothed thank you. :)
Rae,
Too bad…maybe next time. :)
Whoo Hoo cookies!
Ok, I’m trying to calm down, sorry if my random study post seemed out of the blue. Apparantly, a study from England saying nothing of policy, can not be used to show that expectant care is comperable to surgical in terms of miscarriage safety.
Or something. According to Sally.
I know it has nothing to do with anything, but we were talking about being mad and that made me really mad. If this is out of place, feel free to delete, but I simply could not believe that anyone other than Sally supported this “hypothesis”.
Lauren,
Do you really think Sally is worth getting mad over?
The woman has issues. It’s a shame really, because it would actually be interesting getting an older pro-choice persons perspective…but as it is, without their names, you can’t even tell if you’re talking to Red, Sally or Laura…they are like “clones that insult!”
@MK: Oh heavens no, I would *not* want to have a “next time” in that situation. I’d rather die of smoke inhalation than go out in public in just a towel!
Thank goodness I’m in an off-campus apartment. Lol.
I just watched PIP’s video (really cute by the way PIP) and the scene (and song) from cheers made me realize that coming here every night is a lot like when people used to go to the neighborhood bar. Minus the beer, we all come here at the end of the day to catch up, talk, debate, and just generally be “where everybody knows your name…” Heck we even have occasional bar fights, and the Sally, Laura and Red feel like the neighborhood hoodlums have just come in…I like it!
Hey,
Didn’t nobodies like my song?
I’m not so much mad at Sally, as I am the complete lack of academic integrity. I mean, it’s just so frustrating showing someone the LARGEST study ever done on miscarraige and having them go ‘NU UH….that doesn’t count cuz it was in England…Stupid You, you’re a stupid poopy head!”
*head desk*
I couldn’t watch it b/c I didn’t want to wake up Mr. Holden! I wanted to though. Those links are all so irresistable!
Yes Lauren,
But she would have said that if you God had done the study. She argues because she hates pro lifers on principle. She said so. So it’s not about the topic. It’s about attacking us…maybe if we bought her a beer…
Hey Carla, pour one for Sally would ya?
Ooooh Carla and Sally would get along, wouldn’t they?
Lauren,
By the way, I hope you didn’t get “poopy” on that desk…ech!
Haha, I didn’t even think about my poopy head hitting the desk. AHHAHAHAH. Sorry,that just made me laugh *way* too hard. And yes, I think they would get along…swimmingly?
It must be fun to hate people soley on principal. I now hate…er, Lutherns. Those darn Lutherns and their…er….revolving clergy?
Did you see life is beautiful? When the little boy asks his dad why the store has a sign that says NO DOGS OR JEWS ALLOWED?
And Roberto Begnini says “I don’t know. He just doesn’t like dogs and jews…We’ll put a sign on our store. NO SPIDERS OR VISIGOTHS ALLOWED!
I love that movie…I hate Visigoths!
Such a tragic (but good) movie.
It makes me so upset to see how much racism still exists in the world.
Well some people are so bitter and angry and hurt by life that at least “hating” is an emotion they trust. Sad. I wish I had a magic salve that could heal every broken person in the world…oh wait, we do. Prayer.
And pray I will!
I’m off to bed now…it was a relatively peaceful night on here for a change…talk tomorrow. God Bless Lauren.
Good night and God Bless MK!
I am an older pro choice individual. My mother is an 84 year old pro choice individual and my father is an 85 year ol pro choice individual.
By the way, my folks are conservative republicans, always have been and always have been pro choice.
I used to be Republican. I am still conservative in many of my positions on political topics.
Merry, if you’re respectful we’ll be SO happy to have you here!
Night, MK. I’ll wait for your question tomorrow, I guess.
For everyone else, watch this little video. Tell me you can watch it without tearing, and I’ll call you a liar…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go
ARG, now *I* am angry. I have a question for everyone, would you consider a British study to be comperable to an American?
Posted by: lauren at August 22, 2007 8:28 PM
Why would you think that it would be? How much time have you spent in England?
Danny, yes that song does make me cry.
Anon, Hmm. Perhaps because its findings were identical to studies performed in the US. Judging my the repsonse given, I’m not the only “ignorant” one.
I’m glad it touches someone like it touches me. I miss my Man in Black.
I just wanted to tell everyone who knows me on here that I have had two successful days at school. Lets hope it can be a third and a fourth! :)
Me too! I was so sad when he died.
WOOHOO JM! Great news. I’m betting that you will.
I just watched PIP’s video (really cute by the way PIP) and the scene (and song) from cheers made me realize that coming here every night is a lot like when people used to go to the neighborhood bar. Minus the beer, we all come here at the end of the day to catch up, talk, debate, and just generally be “where everybody knows your name…” Heck we even have occasional bar fights, and the Sally, Laura and Red feel like the neighborhood hoodlums have just come in…I like it!
Posted by: mk at August 22, 2007 8:40 PM
What a sweetyhead you are! And how nice of you to allow us lowly females into the neighborhood taverns : )
I wrote this last night after listening to my compendium of his music. Thought you guys might appreciate it.
Another Man In Black
We wondered why he always dressed in black
Why we never saw bright colors on his back
Many hated his appearance
That bore a somber tone
And no one really knew why
He had those black things on
Too many folks wear black today
But ask them why and they will say
I don’t know
Should I have a reason
To dress this way?
I miss the Man in Black
and I constantly wear his color on my back
Because he strove to make a difference
Because of all the love he had inside
Put a little extra weight in every stride
He played for the prisoners
That society cast away
Giving them hope
That they’d be free one day
He never tried to beat them down
That just wasn’t Johnny’s way
People say that he was a fuck-up
A man who was always a has-been
These are people that are ignorant
And will always be lesser men
Johnny had more faith
Than anyone in here
Praised God until his dying day
In a deep voice so sincere
I’ve never shed a tear
When a celebrity has died
But when Johnny passed away
This tough skinhead broke and cried
I wept for Folsom Prison
and the blues that Johnny sang
I wept for the Ring Of Fire
That always called my name
I wept because the world had lost
A true American man
I wept because Johnny had made
His last valiant stand
“You wonder why I always dress in black
Why you never see bright colors on my back
Why does my appearance
Seem to have a somber tone
There’s a reason for the things that I have on”
I wear black to remember JR everyday
To remind me of the words he used to say
To give me hope in a world
Lost in our society
That his words can still make a difference to you and me
I don’t want to wear a rainbow everyday
Because I know that the world still ain’t ok
Until the days get brighter
I’ll be a man in black
Until we come together
I’ll be a man in black
Until we can all be brothers
I’ll be a man in black
Until we stop the killing
I’ll be a man in black
All because of Johnny Cash
I’m a man in black
Er… MK’s a woman Saq.
Danny, that’s wonderful. It really shows the essance of his life. We need more men like him to make a stand. I’m glad you’re one of them.
Glad someone likes it. Glad someone appreciates the sentiment that I carry on from that man who helped change the world.
There’s not many, but I have to believe there are still men out there willing to stand up for the ones who otherwise would not have a voice.
And now, of all the songs, I can’t get “Boy Named Sue” out of my head!
::Raises a hand::
I’M RIGHT HERE! PICK ME! PICK ME!
I pick Danny. Now go out and change the world!
A Boy Named Sue was his best improv ever.
Folsom Prison album. He freestyled that shite.
Woo! I’m a superhero now!
I’m Man In Black Man!
My name is SUE what you gonna do?
So great!
Ok, Danny, you’ve probably explained this 5000 times, but I’ve missed it. What’s up with the skinhead thing?
Oh, love him!
*Runs away* Did I break a taboo by asking that? If so, I’m sorry, I was just really confused.
When I think skinhead I think lynching racists, and you don’t seem like one so I just don’t understand why you would call yourself one?
Lauren, I find it interesting that you’ve decided that you should tell me how I should behave.
Are you leading by example?
I used to be a SHARP skinhead. It’s pretty controversial for some here, but I’m proud of my background.
What is a SHARP? Sorry, I’m not very educated on this type of thing.
Merry, No, today I havn’t been a good example. I strive to be, but do fall.
As for telling you how to behave, I was simply refering to the fact that you post you referenced regarding your age also spoke ocf being respectful.
We’ve had a problem with some “new additions” not being the most respectful, and I was simply pointing out how much we would love some new, older, respectful pro-choicers.
Skinheads, named after their shaven heads, are members of a subculture that originated in Britain in the 1960s, where they were closely tied to the Rude Boys of the West Indies and the Mods of the UK.
Categories
There are several different types of skinheads, in terms of style and political beliefs. Some skinheads don’t fit into any of these categories, and many display characteristics of more than one category. The usefulness of these terms is to explain the dominant forces of skinhead social structure.
Style categories
Thanks Danny! So were you more involved in the punk aspect or the working class aspect? Or both?
Sally: anyone who does not think they are equal to my unborn children– past and future– is insulting to me. It is insensitive and callous to say that my family members do not count.
Working class. I’ve done manual labor pretty much all my life, and I hate white collar jobs. My parents were both working class who built themselves a nice hill to live on, and I respect them for that. I also respect them for instilling a good work ethic in me and teaching me the value of a dollar. Without them, I wouldn’t be who I am today.
I respect that. My father was a carpanter, and my father in law a fire-fighter.
I was raised by my “educated” mother, but I’ve found that often the best people aren’t the most educated.
Yeah, unfortunately, I’ve learned the same lesson at public school. Military school was much more informative than public school.
I’m glad you’re taking this a lot better than some of the others took it. Most people think of me as a violent street thug.
Well, in most places Barney is better than public school. It’s not that the teachers are bad (though of course some are), but rather that the system is so completely skrewed.
Touche, my friend
I shall be back to continue this conversation shortly. I’m at the hookah bar, and I need to pay my tab and head home before this massive storm rapes the West Chicago area.
Well, the way I see it you’re obviously not a violent street thug. I mean, I have no idea what you’ve done or not done in your life, but you are certainly quite empathetic.
Were you a sociopath, we’d have a problem, but you’re obviously not. I personally see little wrong with people being in groups that support them as long as they don’t let the group mindlessly describe them. Does that make sense?
Even if all other skinheads were sociopathic thugs, you obviously are not. Therefore, it seems to me that you took what was good from your group and left the rest.
Alright, I may or may not be here when you get back. My husband should be home any minute and we have a date to watch Jerico!
Danny, one more thing. Forgive yourself. If you don’t you’ll just relive the things that you hate most about yourself. You’re a good person. I don’t care what you’ve done. Embrace the good, and forgive yourself for everything else.
Merry, No, today I havn’t been a good example. I strive to be, but do fall.
As for telling you how to behave, I was simply refering to the fact that you post you referenced regarding your age also spoke ocf being respectful.
We’ve had a problem with some “new additions” not being the most respectful, and I was simply pointing out how much we would love some new, older, respectful pro-choicers.
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Excuse me, Lauren. My post contained nothing about being respectful. I noted a post that said they would be interested in the opinions of older pro choice individuals. How old does one need to be, to be considered older?
I lost a friend in High School to a self induced abortion. I remember when abortion was illegal. I am adamantly pro choice.
If anyone has questions, I would be happy to answer them, but I’m not certain what opinions the OP stated she would be interested in.
Once again, Lauren, you’ve managed to give me faith that there are still good people in the world, just as MK and some of the other posters here have.
I admit, I have a few sociopathic tendencies that surface from time to time, but they’re not related to my skinhead background at all. Yes, I was a soldier for a cause I believed in, and I fought violently and valiantly for it. I just hope the spirit never dies.
“Danny, one more thing. Forgive yourself. If you don’t you’ll just relive the things that you hate most about yourself. You’re a good person. I don’t care what you’ve done. Embrace the good, and forgive yourself for everything else.”
Ah… Sounds like some of the talks MK and I have had. I’ve forgiven myself for many things, but there is still penance to be served before I can forgive myself. My penance is my life, that I’ve put brothers in the ground when it should have been me. Some day soon, I can feel it in my bones and in my scars, I’ll be free of my guilt and my penance, and I can move forward on the road of life. However, right now, I need to keep helping everyone that needs my help, serving those who don’t have someone to stand up for them, and fighting for those who don’t have a champion. I believe that is who I’m meant to be, and so until the day comes when I know I’ve served my time, I will keep being that person.
Danny,
Jill’s my friend.
I suggest very, very strongly that you keep your 9 iron where is belongs.
And……fetuses are human and worth every dignity and respect of borns.
I’ve just met you man and already have zilch respect for you.
Again, and I warn you, do not threaten Jill again with any physical harm. It’s not a manly thing to do and a real soldier would not even mention such a thing.
I think your’re a faux GI Joe bud. Real soldiers, and my son is one of them, respect women, even unborn ones.
HISMAN! ENOUGH WITH THE THREATS!
Maybe if you read further down, instead of letting your testosterone cloud your vision, you’d see that I clearly stated I was NOT threatening Jill. Seriously, don’t push it, man. I’ve explained myself twice tonight, and you’re making go for the hat trick. Step off, and leave well enough alone. Here, in case you’re too lazy to scroll up, or just to ignorant to believe me:
“I did not threaten Jill, nor am I going to allow myself to be baited like a bear. I said that’s what I thought she needed, not that I would be the one doing it. I think that this post has truly been one of the most disgusting things I’ve seen in a long time, and that’s saying a lot.”
“Oh, and Jill? No thanks. I’d rather be the bigger man and not let you bait me. Also, to Jasper and everyone else, I’M NOT MAKING A THREAT AGAINST JILL. I didn’t say I was going to hit her. I said she needed it, not that I was gonna be the one to do it. Seriously, chillax. The only time I fight now is when it is a necessity, and I refuse to raise my fist to a woman unless it’s a matter of life and death. Do not make me into something I’m not.”
Educate yourself, and hold your tongue. I refuse to enter a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, and I refuese to let myself be bullied by a man who is illiterate, or just too stupid to read my disclaimers and APOLOGIES.
Jerk.
To MK, Lauren, and everyone else,
I’m staying away from this board until people take the time to read my apologies. I stated that I never threatened Jill, and it’s this ignorant BS and threats that make me lose respect for pro-lifers. What more do you want me to do, wash your feet and convert to CHRISTIANITY before you’ll believe I’m not trying to be violent or make threats?
Typical. Freaking typical. I expect this kind of treatment from cops, not civilians.
PS HisMan, I was never in the military. I went to military school. Maybe the name Skinhead Dan rings a bell? Get with the times, soldier. There are battles being waged under your very nose that you’re too blind to see.
HIS MAN, Where have you been?? I had a dream that you had come back, and here you are!!
I gotta get off this site for a while. I had a dream about jasper last night too. LOL!
jasper, it was a funny dream.
Bethany and Lauren,
Please accept my humblest apologies. I just realized what I said, and words cannot describe how horrible I feel. I do mean what I’m saying right now, and what I said was not only impulsive and somewhat miscommunicated, but it was also callous and thoughtless to everyone else who reads here. Please, please, please know that I am grateful for how kind you’ve been, and that I truly feel like a heel, and I don’t deserve the forgiveness I’m asking for.
Danny, of course I forgive you. I don’t think that your intent was to be cruel or hurt feelings, and your apology did make me feel much better about what you said.
P.S. I hope that you will realize that no matter how bad what you did in your past was, there is no sin that God can’t forgive. Please don’t take that offensively…you just keep saying how you need to pay for your sin, but I know the peace that you could have, knowing that you were 100 percent forgiven of your sins, knowing that there is nothing you need to do to work your way out of it. Being free of that heavy load. Wouldn’t that be nice?
As long as you carry this burden, you will continue to lash out at people, without realizing it, then later feeling even more guilty and having just one more load to carry on your back.
Danny, cast your burdens on Him, for He careth for you.
I’m staying away from this board until people take the time to read my apologies. I stated that I never threatened Jill, and it’s this ignorant BS and threats that make me lose respect for pro-lifers. What more do you want me to do, wash your feet and convert to CHRISTIANITY before you’ll believe I’m not trying to be violent or make threats?
Typical. Freaking typical. I expect this kind of treatment from cops, not civilians.
Danny, please calm down. Could you just try? The very fact that you keep losing your cool is most likely the reason that many see your posts as literally threatening. Take a minute and just relax and cool down. Just try to avoid saying things like 9 iron, and I think people will stop telling you not to make threats. When you make comments like that, and then go on to lose your temper time and time again, it does tend to make people wonder about your true intent. Show people here that you are not like that, that you are not an angry person, by expressing yourself in a different manner. By your words on this board you can seem angry and sometimes a little bit scary, and by your words on this board you can seem neutral and calm. I do not think you are a violent person, but I do think that your temper is most likely very difficult to control.
Danny, Thank you for the advice, but this lady’s favorite word is the F word. It wouldn’t work. Besides, she shows her ignorance by constantly using it. Have I used it a time or two? Sure. It just isn’t very lady like.
“jasper, it was a funny dream.”
Thats OK Heather, you can dream about me anytime. LOL!!
jasper, I dreamt that I came to your house, and there was a sign on the door that read “Take off your shoes.” “This means you too jasper Roberts” You told me that your wife had written it! LOL!
jasper, please tell me your last name is not Roberts. Otherwise, I’ll have to call Sylvia Brown. LOL!
Merry, MK’s post was the one that spoke of respect. Since it is generally understood that one reads a comment to which they respond, I was assuming that you had done the same. If not, I’m sorry to cause confusion.
heather,
my last name is “Dube” …French Canadian..
btw; If you’re in the Boston area, you’re welcome to my house…
Okay.jasper, Thanks! merry, how did your friend perform her own abortion?
merry, did your friend live?
Heather,
btw; If you’re in the Boston area, you’re welcome to my house…
Just remember to take off your shoes…oh, and bring plenty of pigs ears!
Jasper
My brother was adopted (as was I) and he is French/Canadian. His name was Joseph Constance Martin…from Quebec. He was like the 15th child allowed to be adopted out of Canada into the US.
MK, I had a dream about His Man too, and he came back!
Pigs ears and lemmings pizza………..yum! Will you join us MK?
And a mullet toss?
MK,
My father was born in Quebec up by the St. lawrence river. btw: you’re all invited over.. you can keep the shoes on too… stepping on those little lego toys with bare feet is not fun.
PC and PL aside. I’ll just bet we would all get along as people! I vote for one BIG GATHERING! Example: I went out a while ago. Some of my PC friends were there. I went to the jukebox, and I cranked up “Jump” by Madonna. We was all just a bunch of dancin fools! Forgot about everything for one night!
You’re not in Quebec now are you Jasper?
And yes Heather, bring the pizza!
merry, did your friend live?
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No, I found her in her bathtub dead in her own blood. This is one of the many reasons I support a womans right to choose to have a medically safe abortion.
merry, I am terribly sorry to hear that. What year did this happen?
merry, FYI. Women are still dying from legal abortions.
merry, what year did this happen, and how did she do it?
“You’re not in Quebec now are you Jasper?”
No, I’m in Merrimac, Massachusetts. It’s a 5 minute walk to the New Hampshire border..
gotta leave 4 a while. B back.
Jasper,
Ohhhhh I love the East Coast…bit north for my taste, but still…it is the East Coast! Charleston is where my heart is. But I could be persuaded to “visit” Massachusetts…in the SUMMER!
Bethany,
Thanks for tha advice. Sorry about flying off the handle last night at HisMan; I was a wee bit drunk and already having a bad night, so I overreacted. Bleh. I need to work out and burn off this energy.
Arrive derci
Aside from that, how is everyone this morning?
Merry, are you around? I still wanted to ask you what year you found your best friend dead in a bathtub from an illegal, self induced abortion.
I’m interested to know that too.
I’t was very troubling to see all of the suicides on the death site. I noticed that in almost all of them, there was no faith at all in the their lives.
jasper, I read a few of them too……….upsetting!
merry, I am terribly sorry to hear that. What year did this happen?
It happened in 1969 or 70. She was 17. I don’t know how she did it as her parents would never discuss the situation. People were pretty close mouthed about abortion back then. She was too afraid to even discuss it with her girfriends who thought they told each other everything. We never knew.
Obviously, she was too frightened to discuss the pregnancy with her parents. After that happened, I couldn’t stand to see her mother in church.
As for the poster who said, women are still dying of legal abortions, well, people are still dying from sinus infections, from having their tonsils taken out and from having their teeth cleaned or a root canal. It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t allow them the best possible sterile medical care available.
Merry, Abortions are not safe today.
Merry, Abortions are not safe today.
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How so Heather? Having your teeth cleaned can be fatal for some people. An ingrown hair in his nose killed an uncle of mine when the infection went into his brain. There are many diseases and many medical treatments that aren’t safe, yet the alternative isn’t safe either.
First trimester abortion is 11 times safer than gestating a pregnancy to term.
You decide what is dangerous and unsafe for your body, I’ll decide about my body. Everyone has to make their own decisions about the safety of any given surgery, procedure or prescribed medications, for that matter.