Quote of the Day 2-3-11
I have the fortune of living with one of the most fabulous women I know. She’s funny, she’s educated, she’s thoughtful, and last year, she had an abortion. The day before the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.
The particulars of her situation aren’t important for this discussion. What is important was her reaction, upon realizing her own impending anniversary. She bounced into our living room, plopped herself on our couch, and asked, “So what are we going to do to celebrate?!”
I know that many may read the above sentence and be appalled. There are some that might think, what could there possibly be to celebrate? My friend’s ability to exercise her own reproductive rights. The fact that she made the decision to take her future in her own hands, rather than leave it in anyone else’s. The fact that she, unlike too many other women throughout the world, was able to make that choice. She felt that there was a lot to celebrate, and she was not alone.
Monday evening we received more news surrounding Roe, in a sense. A third friend had announced by way of e-mail that she had recently decided to have an abortion. Once again, the particulars of her situation aside, what I took note of was that she had sent an e-mail out to her friends, to declare her decision….
These two women are walking anti-stereotypes. They are proof that a woman + abortion does not equal a distressed, pitiful and hopeless person….
Looking back on the events surrounding the past few weeks, in the onslaught of yet another hot-blooded abortion feud, I can’t help but feel proud and particularly hopeful. So thank you to my friends, who have made me realize that we are finally approaching a place where women can be comfortable and confident in their choices, whatever those choices may be.
~Amie Newman, “Surrounding Roe: Signs that we’re Finally Getting There,” RH Reality Check, February 2
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
The pro-life movement does not contend that women who have had abortions are pitiful and hopeless. We contend that they may very well feel pitiful and hopeless, and that no matter how they feel, abortion still kills a human being.
Maybe they should have celebrated by ordering some of those aborted fetus cookies and having a big party. Woo hoo, dead babies! Celebrate!
God, it’s just sickening.
Barf.
“The fact that she made the decision to take her future in her own hands, rather than leave it in anyone else’s…She felt that there was a lot to celebrate, and she was not alone.”
This notion of abortion = empowerment is why the militant pro-choice crowd is dishonest when it says it wants abortion to be rare.
“…she made the decision to take her future in her own hands, rather than leave it in anyone else’s”
She took her child’s future in her hands. Was her future in little hands like these? [warning: graphic] Had she not taken those little hands to other hands that shed innocent blood for profit, at this one year anniversary, those little fingers would be curled around his mommy’s, as he’d have beamed adoringly into her face, trusting his mom to take care of him & loving her entirely.
How utterly empty and depraved celebrating a child’s death is.
Wait a few years…..
My friend just had a lump in her breast taken out. She is in pain but hopeful that the threat has been taken out. This scenario would be a cause to celebrate.
Taking a life, is not a cause for celebration These girls act as if, they had a mole taken out.
Its one thing to feel rotten after having an abortion, at least you have some sort of belief that what you did was wrong but you thought it was the only thing you can do (I am not saying this is okay) but its worse to celebrate and act as if what you did was just some random thing like a mole being taken out.
Believing in an afterlife, I spend my child’s ‘anniversary’ doing some good for the pro-life cause. When I get to heaven (God willin’), I want to be able to look my child in the eye and say, “I did everything I could to stop this from happening to other children. I’m so sorry and though God may have forgiven me, I was never able to forgive myself.”
To whom do I teach how to make Grandma’s recipes? To whom do I teach the history of our family tree? To whom do I bequeath great-Grandma’s jewelry, mom’s jewelry, and the family photos I have saved? The anniversary is not about me, it’s about my family and WHO in my family has been lost.
Prenatal homicide is, always has been and always will be a crime. Nothing can change that.
Both of those women killed their own kids and it is tragic and pathetic that they actually think it is something to “celebrate”. It shows the moral bankruptcy of those who oppose unborn human rights.
Amie Newman and the people at “RH” “Reality” “Check” spend every day of their lives promoting the killing of their fellow human beings through prenatal homicide.
What a tragedy that represents.
Just what will it take to get people like these to accept the truth?
To people with this mentality, bearing children is slavery and oppression. It’s so twisted.
“Killing our babies is the best thing EVARR!”
Reproductive choice—don’t make me laugh. What’s reproductive about killing your child?
As is typical, the entire discussion is hidden in language that begs the question by not at all addressing the main claim that pro-lifers make against abortion; that is, that abortion is the unjust taking of a life of an innocent human being. She might as well be talking about celebrating the ability to kill a two-year old.
“Happy anniversary of denying a human being’s right to life and freedom in favor of your own!”
“Happy anniversary of killing your own child!”
Hmmm…just does not sound like a hallmark card does it.
Lord have mercy on women like these who promote abortion as a celebratory occasion. Praying for the conversion of their hearts and minds.
ninek,
When we get to heaven there will be only love.
Imagine our reunions! :)
We will continue to heal from our abortions together.
Signs that you’re finally getting there Amie?
Serial killers celebrate the deaths of those they’ve killed too.
You’re not finally getting there. You are already there.
I’m making a blog!
I’m struggling to find words to express the horror and the sickness I felt reading those words celebrating the murder of innocent human beings and celebrating with apparent glee. Haunting. And the comment above is haunting too: “Wait a few years.” Yeah, I think these women have some rather gut-wrenching heart-breaking days and nights of regret looming in their futures. Futures they denied themselves and their children. Days of thoughts of what might have been. Nights filled with nightmares. Pray for them. They’re going to need all the help they can get.
Medical note – insanity starts prior to the actual procedure.
It’s incredibly bizarre when you think about it. The abortion lobby has pushed so long and hard they’ve twisted and warped the minds of later generations.
It seems that the truth is – as they abort their real human child, they abort their own sense of humanity.
God save us all.
Wonder if this same friend that is talking of her girlfriend’s abortion would be so jovial or sincere in her alleged friendship if said friend was showing signs of grief, remorse or sorrow about the abortion. I highly doubt she would be so open to share her friend’s experience and resulting moods.
What would Amie’s reaction be if her friends had intestinal ruptures and other surgical complications from their abortions?
Are women that really desperate to show they have some sort of power over man that they celebrate the killing?
This is who Christ refers to when he talks about freeing the prisoners…
Sick, self-centered, selfish and just sick. “Dead babies! WOO-HOO!!”
That’s pathetic. Lord, have mercy on the innocent souls of these children, and on the hardened hearts of their mothers.
I’ve never considered women’s regret to be a really effective way to demonstrate that abortion is wrong, because plenty of other killers don’t regret what they’ve done, and given the opportunity, will brag and celebrate.
I hope the second one still has time to realize what she’s doing and change her mind. Also, I think the writer’s assumption about what it means for her to be telling others is stupid. Telling her friends sounds like she’s looking for other people to affirm what she’s doing because she’s not sure about it. I hope at least one of them was brave enough to tell her that she was about to commit a murder.
They are not celebrating the death of their babies. They are in denial about that.
They are celebrating what they consider FREEDOM and RIGHTS. They are horribly deceived and need our prayers.
Clarice,
I would have to disagree with you on abortion regret. Women who acknowledge the death of their babies in abortion mills know first hand the journey of abortion recovery and share their stories to warn others about the lie that abortion helps women. We are just one facet of many in the prolife movement. Silent No More on the US Supreme Court steps is one of the most powerful things I have ever witnessed.
”The fact that she made the decision to take her future in her own hands, rather than leave it in anyone else’s.”
I’ve mentioned before perhaps that I volunteer in an ‘old folks home.’ The hands in one’s future may be your children’s. I know a couple of lucky souls who’s children visit regularly, take their laundry home, keep them dressed in regular clothing instead of gowns, wash their faces and shave their fathers, bring handmade crafts from the grandchildren and great-grandchildren, and food treats from home.
Are those hands so terrible? Are they worth killing today? Post-abortive women, you ARE alone. We walked into the mill as a pair, and left ALONE.
Thank you Carla for your encouragement, you inspire me!
Methinks the ladies doth “celebrate” too much.
And I love how no one ever wants to get into the REASONS for their abortions. They’ll go on and on about how “ABORTION SAVED MY LIFE!!!” and you ask, “How?” and they snap at you like rabid dogs.
I don’t even have words for how chilling that is.
It just makes me want to weep.
I was definitely appalled. To quote pirate legends: “Shiver me timbers!”
This is secular humanism at its best. The “All for me, and none for you” mentality is so utterly corrosive, unfortunately it has become a religion to them.
Unlike Christ dying once for mankind, and the remembrance of his death and resurrection being the celebration of the Eucharist, these sickly depraved people believe in sacrificing human after human to achieve their gain. And what exactly might that gain be? The world? Have they ever been told it can’t be taken with them? We’ve been taught by our parents’ actions (leave God out of it) that sacrifice comes with parenthood. When one flat out refuses to sacrifice their wants and desires to give someone else a chance at happiness, it is the epitome of selfishness.
The greatest gift is to lay one’s life down for a friend. We, as parents, do that every single time we choose our children over ourselves – most especially in giving them life rather than death. Some people just don’t get it. Best that they, who don’t get it, never have children, but even better that they keep their legs crossed.
Chastity and temperance has gone by the wayside. Enter lust and gluttony…and the devil.
Carla,
I’m not trying to discount your contribution. I respect it totally. I don’t think the movement would be what it is without the help of brave women like you who are willing to share their stories. However, I think that the unborn child’s essential humanity has always got to be where we start. The experiences of post-abortive women who know what truly happened are an important testimony, but the fact remains that there are some women who honestly don’t regret their abortions, and perhaps never will on this side of the Kingdom. We have pro-aborts who will pass off your grief and regret as the result of guilt trips by oppressive religious people, not because you feel the natural remorse of someone who knows a baby died.
I had a friend who laughed and joked about hers. Whenever the topic of abortion came up, she recounted the experience in the same way she recounted funny classroom incidents and TV shows. She didn’t have nightmares, she didn’t hear phantom baby cries, she didn’t make a point of talking about it as if she were trying to justify it. She just picked up and moved on with her life.
Thinking about her still sends a chill up my spine. I don’t keep in touch (let’s just say abortion wasn’t the only thing we didn’t see eye to eye on), but as far as I know she still doesn’t regret it.
Most people are not going to see the difference between her and you, unless we first establish that unborn children are people. You regret it, she doesn’t. To their minds, it might well be because you were brainwashed by the religious right, while she is perfectly normal because her child (her ‘tumor’, her ‘blood clot’, her ‘products of conception’) was no dearer than ditchwater. Or, they might both be “valid feelings based on individual situations”. But education about the beginning of life shows the reality of the situation: her unborn child was no less human than yours or anyone else’s, your remorse is completely normal and appropriate, while her lack of remorse is a refusal to recognize the reality of the situation.
Maybe one day a pro-lifer will reach her and something will be stirred, I don’t know. The fact remains that her abortion didn’t have drastic outwardly visible effects on her, and so it’s hard to just point to those to prove abortion is wrong.
Good point about reaching people to help them acknowledge the humanity of the unborn baby. But then there are still folks like Peter Singer who do acknowledge the humanity of the baby but who don’t think it matters. They deny the personhood of the baby until he is at least two years old and can be socialized. (How I am beginning to loathe that word.) What to do? How to reach someone who thinks like that? I honestly don’t know. I think only the Holy Spirit can move someone who is so lost. I think we have to keep trying. And we have to keep praying. Getting and staying close to Christ. It’s the only way we can bring Him Who is the Light of the world to that world, a world that is lost in darkness and too blind to even realize it.
Well, why not treat her with the kindness of knowing she is not at any point a Christian? and that she is worshipping in one of the classic pagan ways- sacrificing an innocent human being. The fakery comes from claiming this is secular, scientific and reasonable. It’s not civic virtue- the halls of Ceasar are about law and order and safety- and it’s not christian virtue- no kill! being one of the ten things God most definitely said. It’s really just like a muslim would say- jahiliya- darkness and chaos and paganism.
In a few years, when they WANT to have children and can’t, when they grow old alone, because they have no children to care for them, let’s see if they’re “celebrating” then.
Carla says:
February 3, 2011 at 12:54 pm
They are not celebrating the death of their babies. They are in denial about that.
They are celebrating what they consider FREEDOM and RIGHTS. They are horribly deceived and need our prayers.
I Agree, Carla.
I wonder if she would be so jubilant if her friend had decided to go ahead with the pregnancy, or place the baby for adoption?
Some women may never regret their abortions. It doesn’t mean that their babies were not unique human beings that were killed. However, I think more women regret their abortions then don’t. And sometimes it takes years for the reality of their abortions to sink in.
Will this woman be “celebrating” January 21 in a few years when she is married and wants children only to find her abortion has made her barren? Or if she does ever conceive will she still be celebrating when she sees her first ultrasound of her “wanted” child and realizes the abortion did NOT remove a blob of tissue but her very own baby.
Sometimes I think the fact that they are “celebrating” shows that they are trying to cover up some hidden feelings that are trying to poke through. I never “celebrated” the anniversary of my wisdom teeth removal. I had nothing to feel guilty about even though it was a GOOD thing that I had them taken out before they came in sideways and made all my teeth crooked. What makes abortion different? Because if they’re too busy “celebrating” they don’t have time to think “What if…? Did I make the right decision? Was the baby a boy or a girl? What would the baby have been doing right now if I’d had him/her?”
Sydney: You reminded me of Vera Faith Lord. I will never forget her story. She was the only child of an only child, and aborted her only child…
Nothing unusual about a celabratory dance over the body of your enemy. All primitives do it.
“I know that many may read the above sentence and be appalled.”
Amie Newman has – unfortunately for her – disclosed to all that her conscience is still working to some extent and she thus condemns herself.
Clarice, I just now googled Vera Faith Lord. Wow. What a powerful testimony!
I wonder if this woman would still celebrate abortion after having kids. How do you explain that to your living children? We’re celebrating because I killed your older sibling? Maybe, by some ironic twist of fate, she’ll find out she’s pregnant with a “wanted” child sometime in late January and they can have a DOUBLE party.
Too bad she didn’t decide to exercise the choice to not have sex if she didn’t want a pregnancy. Instead, she made a bad choice and decided to kill her child rather than face up to the consequences of her poor judgment. A very immature, selfish attitude.
yup, thank God “we are finally getting there”!
that’s right. Getting to complete and utter depravity where women celebrate the murder of their own children.
Not even the Canaanites sacrificing children to Molech behaved this way.
I just can’t fathom the thought of an ”empowered” woman going into some clinic, throwing a few hundred bucksd on the counter, being led into a procedure room, laying down on a table where hundreds of others have laid, having her cervix forced open and a vacuum hose shoved up inside of her to suck out her child. Then to celebrate this momentous occassion a year later. How much more EMPTY can anyone get? Funny how you never hear them talk about what a pleasant and uplifting experience it was as they “celebrate”. This story just makes me want to vomit.
Was this celebrated with cookies and candies in the shapes of tiny arms and legs that had been torn off?
If this woman did not want to get pregnant but wanted to engage in penile-vaginal intercourse (not “sex” per se), she should have been using contraceptives. Did the contraceptives simply fail? Or was she careless? In either case, the pregnancy of a female unprepared to carry to term isn’t a cause for celebration.
There WILL be cause for celebration when abortion whether legal or illegal is relegated to the dustbin of history because all pregnancies make the pregnant female joyful.
JoAnna: It sounds so simple, doesn’t it? “If you’re in trouble and dealing with a pregnancy would make it worse, maybe you should postpone sex so that you can get your life straightened out.” It’s like people think they will die, or their relationships will die, if they don’t have sex. Well, nobody’s ever died from not having sex, and anybody who demands sex is not worth having a relationship with, anyway.
It’s not about shaming people for having premarital or extramarital sex. This is not some kind of grand anti-sex scheme, like the pro-aborts constantly accuse us of. (It’s funny how pro-lifers often have large families if they’re supposedly anti-sex. I never met a pro-abort who had more than two!) It’s just saying, “You should base your decision on whether or not you’re ready to deal with the foreseeable consequences.” How simple is that?
Did anyone read the other article at RHrealitycheck?
So if what’s on the video is SO normal and acceptable and legal, why did the MANAGER of the site in central NJ get fired?
Note too that the video from VA was filmed the day, Jan 12, before the one in NJ. Seems then that the internal communications at PP is a little slow, IF they are reporting on these incidents.
Lila did a great job on CNN, although I wish she had called Brooke on her calling Liveaction’s stated goal a “myopic agenda”.
I wish she had called Brooke on her calling Liveaction’s stated goal a “myopic agenda”.
Yeah, that was interesting. Brooke used that phrase less than 2 minutes after protesting that she couldn’t interject an opinion or take a side. Oops.