MTV’s abortion advocate continues to “speak out” for abortion
When ‘No Easy Decision’ came out, that was the first time that I was hearing other people’s stories, and the first time I had engaged with strangers and people who weren’t my close friends about abortion experiences. That experience with MTV really reinforced for me that it can be really powerful to provide these opportunities and to allow stories to heard — stories that are complex, and that don’t necessarily fit a pro-choice or pro-life narrative.
~ Pro-choice, post-abortive activist Katie Stack on supporting an abortion “speak out” at the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor, Think Progress, October 24
Katie’s abortion story was featured on MTV’s “No Easy Decision” with Dr. Drew in 2010.
[Photo via KatieStack.com]
Oct.28, 2013 6:00 am |
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Yes but Markai who had the abortion in “No Easy Decision” has spoken out that she was coerced into the abortion by the father, James. And that she regrets her abortion. So much for “choice”.
Just recently on Teen Mom 3 the sister of one of the teen moms who aborted her baby when her sister chose life for her own baby, was seen freaking out at the gynecologist’s office. She hadn’t been in an office since her abortion the year before. She went home and cried about her abortion and yet pro-abortion activists applauded this saying this was important to take away the stigma of abortion. HUH? This girl couldn’t even get a pap smear because the trauma of her abortion was so great. A YEAR after her “common surgical procedure” she was still crying over it. This is supposed to prove how great abortion is for women?
Anyone with half a brain could see abortion had destroyed this young woman emotionally and mentally.
Katie Stack, if I recall, could not spend time with her own baby nephew after her abortion because it bothered her too much. Folks, this is NOT normal behavior!! Abortion is psychologically damaging to women!!
Complex. Don’t fit the narrative.
Oh that’s right. More words.
A baby dies. A woman is wounded. THAT is the end result. THAT is abortion.
on supporting an abortion “speak out”
Those aborted in the name of choice, however, were not available for comment during the “speak out” to share their stories.
(*sigh*) This is sad and twisted; God help these women!
The very idea that something “was a hard choice” has been stupidly used to imply that “the decision is therefore okay”. “I agonised over it, therefore it must have been right… or at least no one has the right to sat that I was wrong!” Utter stupidity and deception. I echo Carla: a child was killed deliberately, the woman was wounded, and the abortionist cut another bloody gash into his/her own soul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR440HNIW6o
Abortion causes infertility and breast cancer.
How could any mother, aunt or mentor encourage another mother to dismember, dissect eliminate their own son or daughter just to avoid the social stigma and inconvenience of being pregnant.
Just for the record, Katie, the pro-life narrative is that it really doesn’t matter whether the woman regrets it or is happy about it because our primary reason for opposing abortion is that the baby has a right to life.
Katie is experiencing cognitive dissonance:
“..stories that are complex, and that don’t necessarily fit a pro-choice or pro-life narrative.”
She is trying her best to justify what she already views as a bad decision. The statement above speaks to her pain. I think she will heal and eventually become pro-life…
Lisa,
So many mothers are post abortive themselves and encourage/coerce their daughters or nieces etc. It makes them feel justified in their own choice.
From the Think Progress article: Since many people have internalized the guilt and shame that society projects onto abortion, they feel like they’re not allowed to talk about it even though they went through it.
The only way to process the guilt and shame is to admit that paying to have your own child killed is wrong. Society projects shame on parents who kill their child after birth as well because killing humans is, get this, not a good thing.
Katie knows this and if you’ve ever seen her speak about her abortion, you will notice the tears are right below the surface of her tough-girl facade.
Since somebody has to say it every time MTV is mentioned: anybody else remember when MTV used to play music videos?
Hi JDC,
Yes I remember, and it was fun and addicting to watch.
BTW, I hate to break the news to Katie Stack et.al. but this has been done before. Liberal columnist Ellen Goodman was gushing over this same thing maybe 25 years or so ago. A bunch of post abortive women telling their stories. It was specifically to generate support for abortion. Everything old is new again.
The same Ellen Goodman who claimed that Bill Clinton dropping his drawers in front of Paula Jones wasn’t sexual harassment. Not very nice, but not illegal. That sent a few police officers I knew into fits of laughter.
Anyway, Goodman’s rationale was that a man can’t know a woman objects to something unless he tries it and she objects. Can’t blame a guy for trying, right? So long as he stops when told, what’s the problem? Anyway, I had to be devilish and write Ms.Goodman, asking her if she would have no objections to a man putting his hand up her skirt or down her blouse, so long as he stopped when she told him to. Never did get an answer.
“Anyway, Goodman’s rationale was that a man can’t know a woman objects to something unless he tries it and she objects”
She seriously said that? That’s disgusting. I swear sometimes abortion advocates are the worst victim blamers/perpetrator excusers, if the person who did it is a liberal politician.
I remember vaguely people made a lot of jokes blaming Hilary for Bill’s nasty behavior, insults to her femininity and ability to keep her husband from “straying”. Because God forbid they hold the person who was being a nasty sexual harasser/adulterer responsible.
Hi Jack,
I hear you.
This was right after feminists, including Goodman, had gone after Clarence Thomas with a vengeance. Now the worst thing Thomas may have been guilty of was some lousy pick up lines. Ardent feminists have informed me Clarence Thomas’ real “crime” was being a conservative.
So when their boy Bill got caught with his pants down, literally, how else could they justify turning a blind eye to his antics after persecuting Thomas with such a vengeance? By saying well, you know, he didn’t really do anything illegal. Uh Ellen, flashing is illegal. And its only harassment if a woman objects. A man can’t possibly know that a woman may object to being grabbed or flashed unless he tries it first. If he stops when told, then no problem. That’s what prompted me to write Ms. Goodman.
Ironically, Paula Jones actually thought feminists would support her.
People did fall all over themselves excusing Clinton’s romping and sexual abuse of women. Even Billy Graham excused his behavior, I posted that source for you on another thread, and as such, I have totally lost ALL respect for the man to this day.
Katie – let’s hear what the dead children are speaking out – what the victims have to say:
[silence]
Choice is no choice when others violate you.
Bad news, folks — the Texas abortion law was ruled unconstitutional. Abortion Barbie must be thrilled!
“Bad news, folks — the Texas abortion law was ruled unconstitutional”
To be fair, from the sources I’ve been reading, it seems only some sections were struck down. But that’s still pretty bad.
Sources are also saying that the Texas Attorney General is planning on appealing the decision. Let’s hope that works out.
I remember, JDC.
The very first music video I ever saw on MTV was in 1983 and it was Michael Jackson’s Thriller. I still love that video. It’s the right time of year to watch it again!
Just as abortion clinic nurses and female abortionists have aborted. Choice is their justification. BTW just went out dancing to Thriller….some of the girls n i cranked it up…we know how the dance goes…loved MJ
@ Mary…is that who Clinton flashed?? I wondered. First flasher…lol
Idk how women feel about their abortions but the majority I have spoken to have regrets. My former friend of over 20 years had one at about age 26 while attending nursing school. She once told me she has no regrets and shes actually proud of it. She just turned 44 yesterday and we are no longer friends at all. I would tell some of my hurting friends about Carla but they might get upset with me for telling their stories on a blog
As for my former friend I told her she was a cold blooded person…oh man did it get ugly but I brought up her abortion and told her how Id felt about her showing no remorse. Sorry but I hope one day she realizes she did wrong. As for now I told her “I think youre evil!”
Katie works in an abortion clinic. My heart hurts for the poor girls and woman who find themselves across the table from her as their “counselor”. Even if done subconsciously, I bet she’s steered women towards a certain “choice”, to help justify the one she made. Misery loves company.
@heather, I don’t think your comment helps the pro-life side. I understand your passion, as I share that with you. But, to call your friend evil? I hope some day you can reconcile with her. We are all capable of doing very bad things. Hopefully, we learn from them and repent.
Hi Doe..she had said some pretty harsh things first. Im not too sure shes not evil.
If I may Doe. Based on a person’s personality and receptiveness (especially if they are an adult) sometimes it is better not to sugar coat things and state it the way it is. I do not know Heather’s former friend but from what I have read here she perhaps is in need of a wake up call (the proverbial bucket of cold water on her head). Being touchy/feely works for some but also has the unintended consequence of damaging any way of recovery as some get too comfy in being padded too much.
And in theory, anyone who aborts the preborn life inside of them is not a saint…
“Now the worst thing Thomas may have been guilty of was some lousy pick up lines.”
Now I do agree with the rest of your comment Mary, and I do think that Clinton did some really nasty things and that people tended to overlook it because of his politics. But that doesn’t mean that Thomas didn’t do anything wrong. Continually asking someone out/hitting on someone you have power over in a professional setting is pretty textbook sexual harassment (even if they say “yes”, can you really consent if you know there’s a possibility that you will lose your job if you turn him/her down? There’s a pressure there that doesn’t really go away.). He may not have physically harmed Anita Hill, but it does create a toxic work environment if your boss is interested in you romantically and tries to pick you up. I don’t think he quite deserved his crucifixion in the media, but I do think he was in the wrong. You simply don’t get involved with people while they work for you, it’s not a good idea and can definitely be construed as pressure or that their job is on the line.
Hi Jack,
Thomas was never proven guilty of anything. It was he said/she said and he maintained his innocence. Anita Hill was an attorney. I don’t buy that she was some helpless victim who could only wring her hands in despair. As I pointed out before this whole thing made my elderly mother laugh. “When did women become so helpless?”, she asked. “They think women never handled these situations before now?” My mother, a lowly typist, quickly put a lecherous boss in his place and I’m sure she’s not the first or last.
Someone could falsely accuse you of the same Jack, a neighbor or a co-worker. How would you prove you didn’t?
But you have to admit there was a very definite double standard. Every effort was made to portray Thomas as a drooling sexual lecher while Clinton was just a lovable fun loving bubba who everyone could find excuses for.
Well I believe Anita Hill. Doesn’t mean that I want Thomas up on charges or something, because there’s not any objective evidence, but I don’t think she’s making it up.
Hi Jack,
I certainly respect your view but again, its a matter of who you believe.
My mother a lowly high school educated typist with a husband at war and a baby to support had no problem standing up to her lecherous boss and shutting him up once and for all. 50 years later, Anita Hill, an attorney in the post women’s movement could only wring her hands and be a victim. Sorry Jack, it just doesn’t wash with me.
I take issue with people accusing others of “being a victim” if they aren’t able to stop harassment or abuse.
Hi Jack,
I didn’t accuse her of “being a victim”. On the contrary, I don’t buy that she was a victim and maintain that as an attorney and economically independent woman, she was in a position where she did not have to be anyone’s victim.
What about the possibility that its Thomas who’s the victim?
Again Jack, I don’t know. Its a matter of who you believe.
@Thomas R, I agree with you as far as not sugar-coating. Some of the greatest saints in history were horribly sinful and did some wretched things. They changed their ways, though. I just don’t think it’s good practice to call a person evil. Yes, we believe abortion is an evil act. I’m sure the vast majority of these girls/women did not fully comprehend the gravity of their situation. Are we going to call them evil?