Therefore, dear friends, since you have been warned in advance, be on guard so that you aren’t led off course into the error of sinful people, and lose your own safe position.
~ II Peter 3:17, Common English Bible translation
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So which narrative of the Pied Piper is being invoked here?
The one where it symbolises the loss of children through plague?
The one where they were led off on a childrens crusade?
Or the one where a bunch of folk moved further east?
If you are invoking the fairy tale version then the question raised is where the real ‘sin’ lies.
For a non-believer such as yourself “reality” allow me to define sin for you in layman’s terms:
SIN IS:
– deviance (dfferent from societal norms)
– distress (causing) (unpleasant, upsetting to the majority)
– dysfunction (interfering with life’s positive aspects)
– danger (carrying risk of harm to self and others)
Can you identify any sins that meet that criteria, I and others can….
Yes I can “thomas real men don’t bath.”, even though your criteria seems a little limited to me.
Claiming you’ll pay someone to undertake a task and then refusing to pay them upon completion.
You’ve got to stop bearing false witness against me “reality.” I stated that real men don’t bath, they take showers. This is the third time you are leaving the second part of that statement out.
I’m not bearing false witness at all “thomas r.”
My statement is accurate. It doesn’t say that real men don’t take showers. It does not state that you yourself don’t take showers. It simply states that according to you, real men don’t bath.
This a new one on me, ha. To cite the first part of someone’s statement and to claim that it is accurate without the completed meaning is somehow okay in your world. Put me out of context to score some points or to shame me is accurate. No it is not. Cite the full statement so that others have an accurate context, otherwise its just lying about my words. Lying is a sin btw…….
So now you are claiming that ‘real men don’t bath’ is not an accuarte statement? Is that right? So they do in fact bath?
Where does the lie lie?
Obviously you have no interest in quoting my full statement so be it. I will start referrring to you as “reality” – sex and abortion proponent. Check the the other thread where you contradict yourself… Bye….
Can’t we all be respectful of each other? Reality please don’t try to shame Thomas and Thomas don’t stoop to the level of half-quotes. :) I love all of you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdB-8eLEW8g
And real men sometimes bath. I don’t because then I have small children sitting outside the door of the bathroom (Daddy what are you doing? Daddy I’m bored. Daddy come play.) Lol.
That’s exactly my point Jack, thank you. Shower is quicker and real men can devote the time to their kids instead of blowing bubbles all over themselves. Some do have a lot of time on their hands to do that obviously :)
I do like Marley a lot Jack, thanks. :)
JACK! I love that song. :D
Oh my gosh the bath debate again?! I don’t see why you have a problem with men taking baths, Thomas! lol I mean I get the time thing, but sometimes partner takes one to decompress/relax muscles.
But whatever. Bathing equality!!!!!!!
Thomas, it’s okay for a “real” man (anyone who is male is man, I don’t like the phrase real man) to take a bath. I might on occasion when my kids have their days at their mother’s. It’s just not something single dads can do much, lol, or I suppose busy married dads. But there’s no shame in relaxing in a tub. I just think we can all agree that people can choose their leisure activities and not be shamed. :)
I take umbrage at the phrase “real man” or, alternatively, “real woman.”
Blech.
Yeah, I don’t particularly like it either LibertyBelle. I am a hypocrite though, because I use “real” man sometimes to differentiate between “men” who abandon or abuse their children and men who don’t. I think any man who doesn’t raise his kids right is awful. Same for “real” women. So I’m terribly hypocritical.
My ex solved the bath problem by taking the kids in the bath with her. It always freaked me out but she told me that plenty of parents do that and nothing is wrong with it. I still think it’s odd though, just creeps me out a bit. And she doesn’t with my son anymore because he’s too old for that, I think she still takes my daughter in the shower with her when they are over there. I’ve never done that, no matter how many people tell me that parents do that and it’s perfectly normal I’m never comfortable with that.
Eh, I’ve been a hypocrite but I’m trying to clean up my language. ;) As in, “Dads who abandon their families are horrible” instead of “real men don’t run out on their families.” So I’m guilty too, it just really irks me, especially about petty things. “Real women aren’t visual” or whatever.
O_o I’ve only gotten in the bath w baby once but I won’t do it again. It was kind of weird. I’ve worn a bathing suit with him mostly though which is different. I generally think its’ weird to bathe with kids (spouses are another matter… lol) But also, showering/bathing is my me time!!
I also don’t like going to the bathroom with kids in the room. I need some privacy, even from offsprings. And I think I want to teach kid/kids that from an early age. Some things are meant to be private
As I divulge my bathing habits on a public blog…. lol
Irony.
I did not say that you do not shower
I did not say that you do not possess high standards of personal hygeine
Heck, I didn’t even say that you don’t bath
I merey iterated what you had said – ‘real men don’t bath’
I said nothing which impugned you
Shower is quicker and real men can devote the time to their kids instead of blowing bubbles all over themselves. – so until you have children, and then once they’ve grown up, you’re no longer a real man? Is that it?
Some men’s wives/partners/girlfriends/boyfriends WANT their man to share a bath with them. What would you do? Or don’t you have time for such nonsense?
I will start referrring to you as “reality” – sex and abortion proponent. – as long as you can provide the evidence.
“thomas real men don’t bath” is not a verb.
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Talk about “led off course”! This has got to be the most inane thread sparked by a sober Sunday Quote ever!
And when did “bath” become a verb, anyway?
When someone runs out of ‘e’?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bath
Hans: And when did “bath” become a verb, anyway?
We are witnessing the fall of the English Language. ”Aware” is becoming a verb too, among many other infractions. The young people of today are text-speaking and twittering themselves into nothing more than momentary consciousness, to leave all rational examinations of existence withering away to dust.
The counts of the indictment are luxury, bad manners, contempt for authority, disrespect to elders, and a love for chatter in place of exercise.
–Kenneth John Freeman, from his Cambridge dissertation in 1907.
“reality”have sex and than abort proponent has had so many English comprehension fails, my running out of an “e” pales in comparison.
I am to partly to blame for the derailment Hans, sorry….
I’m happy to be corrected but I think the original spelling of the verb is ‘bathe’.
Are you listening to the voices again “thomas real men don’t bath”?
Any english comprehension failure on my part is probably due to your mis-applied and twisted verbiage.
The count would still be well behind your logic fails.
We are witnessing the fall of the English Language. ”Aware” is becoming a verb too, among many other infractions. The young people of today are text-speaking and twittering themselves into nothing more than momentary consciousness, to leave all rational examinations of existence withering away to dust.
Bahaha. Sorry. I’m absolutely a bibliophile and words intoxicate me; however I can see that language eventually evolves and I do not think that dropping an e on a word in a comment section is an example of the crumbling of language.
Language always evolves. As a young person, I am a proponent of proper grammar usage, employer of archaic words, lover of rich language, and even embracer of new verbiage.
:)
Though mostly I agree with you. Text-speaking and twittering just made me laugh.
And isn’t it “verbage”? :) I think language is evolving because so many misspellings become accepted in a secondary definition.
There’s always one that bugs me every day. For one, I don’t think “preventive” should rhyme with “tentative”.
Harumph! ‘verbage’ is the lazy version of ‘verbiage’.
How can ‘preventive’ rhyme with ‘tentative’? ‘preventative’ does.
Yes LIberyBelle, language constantly evolves. If we travelled back 200 years people who supposedly speak the same language as us wouldn’t understand half of what we said.
I’ve heard from people who have travelled back to places like Greece and Italy 20 or 30 years after leaving who say that people had trouble understanding them when they used their native tongue.
I could swear that “canceled” and “traveled” only had the one “l” when I was young. Maybe the President’s English is slowly returning to the Queen’s English.
Ha! Who knows? Part of it is colloquial, too, as far as pronunciations.
People claim I have a slightly southern accent, but I don’t hear it. ;) So for instance, that thing you put your groceries in at the grocery store I call a buggy. But technically, the contraption has multiple names.
And dictionaries often include multiple spelling (I know I’ve seen verbiage). I’m somewhat liberal with my letters. ;)
“Reference” as a verb made me feel like I was Rip Van Winkle catching up with the world. And “@” used to mean “each” in the ancient typewriter days.
And then there’s the pantomime of being on the phone using a splayed pinky and thumb. I still remember Bob Newhart on the Ed Sullivan Show doing it as a clenched fist around the invisible phone.