Democrat National Convention: Day 3
It is into the wee hours of Day 4 actually, and I’m only now able to recap yesterday. It has taken awhile to edit and upload the video at the end of this post.
First, some popular booths spotted, including the Goodnight Bush booth, selling a parody of the classic Goodnight Moon (click to enlarge)…
Here’s an excerpt (yes, I bought the book; it’s really pretty funny):
Goodnight ballot box
Goodnight FOX
Goodnight towers
And goodnight balance of powers
Goodnight Constitution
And goodnight evolution…
You get the drift.
I attended a standing room only Democrats for Life press conference this afternoon. PA Senator Bob Casey, who gave a speech at last night’s convention, was on hand, as was Congressman Heath Shuler of NC…
DFL prez and friend Kristen Day didn’t call on me to ask my question, I suspect on purpose. Others did ask how these pro-lifers could support such a radical pro-abort as Obama. Re: his promise to sign the Freedom of Choice Act, Shuler responded, “I don’t see it leaving the House”.
A Washington Post reporter asked an interesting question, in keeping with my observation that abortion support is being squelched at this DNC: “The mood here at this convention on the pro-choice issue strikes me as different than the mood in the past. I’d like to ask you about that.”
Congressman Lincoln Davis responded, “I think if we continue to have a platform in stark contrast to the Republican platform, I believe we are going to start losing”.
Casey, who spent the event carrying water for Obama, gave the obtuse answer, “I do think the mood is different. I think Barack Obama reflects that kind of perspective and that helps the mood.”
Oh brother.
I’ve been getting more and more requests for interviews about Obama and Born Alive. I gave four today, including one that got me into the Pepsi Center for a short time, where Democrats are holding their convention. There I spotted Randi Rhoades of Air America infamy on Radio Row….
Finally, I attended an early evening protest with the Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust.
The group first replaced flowers on The Children’s Wall at the Pepsi Center entrance, as they have done every day of the convention. The flowers have remained untouched.
Then the Survivors staged a “Die In,” to emulate abortion deaths against a backdrop of large graphic photos of aborted babies with the caption, “Barack Obama Change This”.
Here’s video I took of the event:
I wish the video had been longer! I could have watched peoples reactions all day!
I felt so proud of those young people, out their giving of themselves, giving up their time for something they feel so passionate about. Just when I’m ready to throw in the towel and give up on humanity, I see something like this and realize that there really is “HOPE” and that there might even be “CHANGE”. Unfortunately, it won’t be coming from Obama and his ilk.
Go Youth!
Wow! Lincoln Davis just referred to abortion (freedom of choice) as a loser.
Well, of course Lincoln Davis referred to “choice” as a losing strategy. He’s a pro-life Democrat:
http://www.house.gov/lincolndavis/issues/life.htm
I think that Jill is really on to something significant with her observation about Casey (another pro-life Democrat):
Casey, who spent the event carrying water for Obama….
The 2008 Election cycle is telling me a lot about the seriousness of pro-life Democrats. And unfortunately, it’s telling me that they put party loyalty ahead of the lives of the unborn. Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion candidate to ever be nominated for President. He won’t support any restriction on abortion, no matter how reasonable or tepid. Heck, he’ll even condemn abortion survivors to death before he’ll risk threatening the precious “right” to kill unborn children.
In other words, Obama is not a moderate on Life. He is among the very worst of the Party of Death.
As if Obama’s candidacy wasn’t bad enough, take a good look at the recent changes to the Democrats’ plank on abortion. They yielded one minor point to pro-lifers by expressing support for women who choose to let their children live. But they also strengthened the language with which they defend the “right” to abortion, claimed a “need” for abortion, and generally pushed their already-noxious position even further toward Death For All.
You can read one pro-life Democrat’s self-deception here:
http://www.turntheclockforward.org/2008/08/pro-life-dems-should-be-proud/
With all of that, how do pro-life Dems respond? With enthusiastic support for the very people who have declared “open season” on the unborn! They proclaim themselves to be “pro-life” while simultaneously supporting the worst enemies of life. It makes me wonder what on earth the Democratic Party could do that would finally convince pro-life Dems that they’re being used. If Obama eviscerates an unborn child during the middle of his acceptance speech, do you suppose that would do it?
Which is more important: Life or party loyalty?
Pro-life Republicans had to face the same issue when it looked like Giuliani might get the GOP nomination. As I recall, most of us refused to support him and even declared that we would “sit out” the 2008 Presidential vote if Giuliani was the choice. Fortunately, Giuliani ran a pathetic campaign, so he was easily (and quickly) defeated in the primaries. We never had to carry out the threat.
Will pro-life Dems ever do the same? If Obama’s record and a stronger pro-choice platform aren’t enough to convince them to leave the party, what will it take? Finally, if pro-life Democrats are willing to support the most pro-abortion Presidential candidate in US history, does it even make any sense to continue to call them pro-life?
mk: yes it was interesting to watch the video.
As I posted on another thread yesterday, abortion is chosen by women because there have been over 30 decades of lies which have largely gone unanswered by society at large.
Soon the distortion becomes the accepted “truth”.
I admire the protestors but wish more had been there. My kids would have done it!
AS for the DFL: how can they possibly make this one fly?
It’s like saying you believe rape is wrong but then working for an organization that seeks to legalize rape. It’s completely mind-boggling.
Others did ask how these pro-lifers could support such a radical pro-abort as Obama. Re: his promise to sign the Freedom of Choice Act, Shuler responded, “I don’t see it leaving the House.”
Who are these people kidding? Even I, a lowly Canadian can see that FOCA will some day be the law if Obama is elected.
The Democrats can’t even be honest — they have to hide their most beloved rights from the public square because they know they won’t win. That is pretty despicable. But that has been B. Obama’s modus operandi — cloak his far-left leanings under supposed mid-west values.
That was a very cool protest! I wish I could have heard better what the young kids who were reading the signs were saying. I wish I could have been there!
I couldn’t even finish watching the video. I can’t believe what our society does. I can’t believe it. I can’t believe we shred up our unborn. I sometimes forget that this is real, and think it’s just something I like to debate online. Now I’m letting my emotions get the best of me. This is so completely asinine, so disgraceful. I don’t know how to express myself right now. I’m looking at my daughter right now, thinking that when she was in the womb, she was just a disposable piece of crap? All I can do is repeat the sacred name of JESUS. JESUS I trust in you.
yup. That’s what people think Bobby.
I just read a really sad story on a website called menandabortion.info about a man who very much wanted his baby and his fiance aborted their baby. After the abortion she came home and painted her toenails!
Sweet!
Just remember though, there are many people who don’t think like this. We just had a brunch this week for a friend of mine who is expecting her ninth!! Yeah for life!
Bobby cried out:
I’m looking at my daughter right now, thinking that when she was in the womb, she was just a disposable piece of crap? All I can do is repeat the sacred name of JESUS. JESUS I trust in you.
I hear ya, brother. We’ve chewed up 40-50 million children — the equivalent of another 9/11 attack every day — and it doesn’t look like the slaughter will stop anytime soon.
I am comforted by a passage from the Revelation to Saint John:
“Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, ‘Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.'”
(Revelation 21:1-4)
We cannot trust in princes, powers, or politicians. Our only hope is in God Himself. Thankfully, He is all we need! Victory is ours already! All we have to do is to run the race, keep the faith, and claim our crowns. (2nd Timothy 4:7-8)
Honestly, I have no idea how non-believing pro-lifers can remain sane. Without the promises of God, I’d curl up into a little hopeless ball on the floor and wait to die….
Casey, who spent the event carrying water for Obama, gave the obtuse answer, “I do think the mood is different. I think Barack Obama reflects that kind of perspective and that helps the mood.”
Bob Casey-> Fraud.
The video is great. Looks like some very young kids putting flowers in the fence. It appears this is far more interesting that the scripted stuff going on inside.
Honestly, I have no idea how non-believing pro-lifers can remain sane. Without the promises of God, I’d curl up into a little hopeless ball on the floor and wait to die….
Posted by: Naaman at August 28, 2008 8:49 AM
please don’t EVER do that!
Bobby: my mom when she was alive use to wonder aloud how a woman could kill her very own baby. She just could never understand it. She would look at my eldest two when they were babies (she never lived to see the youngest two) and remark how beautiful, innocent and sweet they are (were!) lol
As a “non-believing pro-lifer”, I can tell you that sometimes it isn’t easy to remain sane, and there are some people who might question whether I actually have done that. I have confidence that if I live out the rest of my life standing up for truth and justice, I can die a peaceful death. And that’s the best way to go, IMO.
If I were to dwell on the condition of our society, relative to respect for life issues, I’m sure I would not remain sane, or perhaps alive, for long. So I try to keep busy doing what my conscience tells me I need to be doing.
I see our present society as not unlike a group of lemmings stampeding towards a cliff. There’s nothing I can do about it, but I don’t have to go along with them.
Oh, I love that passage Naaman. Especially the part about God wiping away all tears. So much hope at such a dark time. God love you.
Patricia,
“my mom when she was alive use to wonder aloud how a woman could kill her very own baby. She just could never understand it.”
That’s what I’m being reminded of right now too. Completely unfathomable. Just the fact that it has become so ingrained in our culture. Like Naaman said, every day is a like a 9-11. How has it come to this?
It has come to this because we have stopped viewing God as central to our existence and this life on Earth as a journey to Himself.
It has come to this because we have rebelled against God’s vision of the sacredness of our sexuality and profaned his gift.
Bobby, Patricia and Naaman,
I had one of those days yesterday where everytime I looked at someone (I was in the mall) I kept thinking…are they for abortion? Did they have an abortion? I saw 4 nurses in scrubs and I kept picturing them as nurses that worked in an abortion clinic. I was thinking, did you just kill a few babies and thought you’d do a little shopping to celebrate!
Totally ridiculous, I have NO IDEA what kind of nurses they were and Lutheran General is right down the street…but it was one of those days where I felt like the whole world had blood on it’s hands!
Anyway, I’m better today…onward!
I see our present society as not unlike a group of lemmings stampeding towards a cliff.
Lemmings???? Did someone mention Lemmings??? Where’s Val…!?!?!?
Doyle wrote:
I have confidence that if I live out the rest of my life standing up for truth and justice, I can die a peaceful death. And that’s the best way to go, IMO.
You seem to be a man of noble character, Doyle. My virtual hat is off to you. :)
May I ask: What if you could know beyond the possibility of doubt that Truth and Justice would ultimately prevail? Even if you don’t get to see it during your lifetime, would it be helpful to know that Good will triumph in the end?
Would such knowledge be reassuring?
Revelation 3:16 “But since you are like lukewarm water, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth!”
Jill reported:
Congressman Lincoln Davis responded, “I think if we continue to have a platform in stark contrast to the Republican platform, I believe we are going to start losing.”
Interesting poll from Gallup:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/109846/Conservative-Democrats-Peeling-Away-From-Obama.aspx
Basically, Gallup is finding that conservative Dems are fleeing from Obama, while the liberal and “moderate” Dems are continuing to rally around him. We’re still a few months out from Election Day, of course, but I’m starting to wonder if Obama the Messiah might turn out to be merely McGovern for 2008….
MK:
Yes, the earth does have the stained blood of the innocent on it’s hands.
For, the shedding of innocent blood pollutes the land.
Numbers 35:33 “So you shall not pollute the land in which you are; for blood pollutes the land and no expiation can be made for the land for the blood that is shed on it, except by the blood of him who shed it.”
Psalm 106:38 “And shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and their daughters, Whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; And the land was polluted with the blood.”
Psalm 94:21: “They band themselves together against the life of the righteous and condemn the innocent to death.”
Maybe this is a good sign. We all know what Obama stands for, but apparently they dont want mainstream America to know…which may reflect that mainstream America is not very excited for abortion anymore.
“Randi Rhoades of Air America infame….”
What’s wrong with Randi Rhoades or Air America?
I don’t want to bore Sandy, so I won’t mention that a panel discussion on Amendment 48 with Cecile Richards of PP, Nancy Keenan of Pro-Choice America and others just concluded at the Big Tent, (where Jill is) and that a liveblog can be accessed on “www.coloradoindependent.com”
Thanks PPC:)
I will bore myself to death with it. LOL
PPC:
That’s probably one of the most sane and uninsulting posts you’ve ever written.
But, you did lie again.
Hai guise!!!
So basically, it’s my 21st birthday today, so for the next few days I will be spending most of my time getting drunk. And it’s better for me not to discuss things that irritate me when I’m profoundly intoxicated. Sooo I will see you all after I am sober!
Is anyone else but me disgusted with the fact that Juno is making a parody appearance in “DISASTER movie”?
Erin, enjoy your birthday and don’t drink and drive!
I was told by doctors when I was 5 months pregnant that my son who had heart defects would not make it to birth, and if by chance he did, would have a low quality of life.
They recommended exactly what Jill talks about and Obama supports without giving me details. They said, “We could induce the pregnancy at 6 months and you can hold him while he dies then donate his body to science.” They did not explain to me that he would suffocate but they did say that all they would have to do is take it to the hospital board to get approval which would “not be a big deal. They would approve it.”
I am happy to report my son will be 8 years old in October and is in second grade – a happy, healthy, active, intelligent and compassionate little boy.
Sandy, promises, promises…
HisMan, “sane and uninsulting”…give it a try, it will certainly reduce the size and number of of your posts by 99%.
Praise God!
God bless you, Sarah!
“I am happy to report my son will be 8 years old in October and is in second grade – a happy, healthy, active, intelligent and compassionate little boy.”
YES! Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! Praise the Lord for he is good!
so much for the doctors knowing the future eh?
Wonderful story Sarah and what a blessing!!! Happy birthday to one October birthday person from another October birthday person!!!(me)
Erin: why would you get drunk on your 21st birthday? So young and already one abortion….*sigh*
“It has come to this because we have stopped viewing God as central to our existence and this life on Earth as a journey to Himself.
It has come to this because we have rebelled against God’s vision of the sacredness of our sexuality and profaned his gift.”
Well said.
I’ve been debating people who calim the Name of Jesus on a Bible forum, to see the extent of these people turning away from fundamental truths pertaining to God is stunning.
They proudly and happily exclaim, “I am a Christian”! And out of the same mouth deny God’s stated views out of His own Word, on life.
The Bible clearly states that in the last days there will be a great falling away, to me, it’s no more evident then when I hear more and more of those who claim His Name say abortion is not murder and God has no say on the issue.
It’s very sad, but it’s been clearly told us it would happen.
They refuse to acknowledge that God has said, “WOE TO THOSE WHO CALL EVIL GOOD AND GOOD EVIL.”
Sarah,
I am so happy for you and your family and that your boy is fine and about to celebrate another year!! :)
Erin,
Happy 21st to you!!
Although my heart is heavy for those that have had abortions and regret them I also feel that I can be there for those that have had them and don’t regret them. It is hard to understand but Erin has been nothing but honest(brutally honest)and I appreciate that.
She doesn’t know what she doesn’t know, ya know? :)
Erin: why would you get drunk on your 21st birthday?
Posted by: Patricia at August 28, 2008 11:50 AM
Why not?
Does PPC stand for Planned Parenthood of Colorado?
Anyway, I just read the liveblog of the Dems’ discussion of Amendment 48. If you don’t feel like searching the Colorado Independent site for it, here’s a link:
http://www.coloradoindependent.com/6191/liveblog-no-on-amendment-48/
Needless to say, the Dems don’t think much of an amendment that would recognize fertilized human eggs as real people. I’m stunned. Really.
Reading the comments shows an awful lot of FUD (fear, uncertainty, & doubt) being spread. For example:
9:15 a.m.: Raising the spectre of government interference
Richards mentions that women could be investigated for miscarriages.
Interesting possibility … very SCARY … but do you have any proof?
More FUD:
Like oral contraceptives and IUDs, breastfeeding also naturally thins the lining of the uterus making it more difficult for a fertilized egg to implant. Would that threaten criminal charges against nursing mothers, lactation specialists and physicians who advocate breastfeeding?
Okay, time for a quick poll. Pro-lifers only: Who wants to put women in prison for breastfeeding?
Anyone? Anyone at all? Bueller?
Just in case there’s anyone who’s actually paranoid enough to believe this stuff, please pay close attention to my next sentence. I’m just about as hardcore in my beliefs as an “anti-choicer” can get, and I have absolutely no desire to put women in prison for breastfeeding.
On the other hand, a lot of the commentary seems to be all about stating the obvious. For example:
9:19 a.m.: This is a national strategy
Nancy Keenan of Pro-Choice America notes that anti-abortion groups do not publicize their support of this initiative because it is so out of step with the American public.
The strategy is that people on the ground are tired of waiting for their national groups to end abortion so they are attacking it in the states through citizen initiatives and state legislatures. Another point is that they are attempting to overturn Roe v Wade via the courts by stacking them with socially conservative justices.
Well, if you can ignore the dubious claims about pro-lifers being “out of step” with America, Keenan is absolutely correct here. Of course pro-lifers have a national strategy, and of course that strategy uses multiple points of influence … such as citizen initiatives, state & national legislatures, and changing the courts. What does Ms. Keenan think we should do, roll over and play dead like an unwanted baby in a soiled utility room? (That last sentence might have been a bit tasteless….)
I am always amused by this irony. On the one hand, pro-choicers love to disparage pro-lifers for being ignorant, moronic, backwoods hicks. On the other hand, they also accuse us of being diabolically clever in our attempts to “subjugate” women and overthrow the Constitution. Well, which is it? Are pro-lifers toothless imbeciles, or are we cunning strategists? Hmmm…?
Naaman,
You a such a pleasure…keep it up!
Naaman,
You are a great read!
I also enjoy that Prolifers have an “agenda”!! As if the Prochoicers don’t??!
Patricia- because I CAN. I am now legally allowed to buy booze and get myself drunk instead of having all my legal friends buy it for me. Don’t worry, I’ll behave!
Hal- never ever.
Yes. Please be careful out there, Erin!! :)
How ’bout this one???
A: Keenan asks bloggers, both men and women, to get involved, write about this issue and running ads on their sites.
Happy Birthday, Erin! Sad to say that after you become legal, drinking just isn’t as fun as it used to be. Although, I’m also a 30 year old trapped in a 23 year old’s body, so I don’t think all those silly things I used to do like go out and get plastered and wake up in my own vomit are fun anymore. Not that they were fun when I woke up anyway lol. But happy birthday, I hope you have a great day!
Bobby and MK,
I find myself sitting in my classes that started this week and wondering to myself about the girls in my class. I think about my daughter a lot and all these moments I never would have and all this happiness if she weren’t here. I really try to picture it in my mind and it makes tears come to my eyes. Even lately when she has been trying my patience IMMENSELY with having broken 2 glass dishes in the past 2 days because climbing on the counter is a BLAST, I wouldn’t change it for the world. I’m so glad I am who I am and for who I was then, because I didn’t EVER think of having an abortion.
Naaman 12:14 GREAT POST!
Erin and Elizabeth: try some grass.
SoMG,
That only works for dogs.
I think SoMG was talking smoking, not eating….
It just goes to show you, Elizabeth, that there probably isn’t a SINGLE person out there who regrets their child. I think one would be very hard pressed to find someone who says “If I could do it over again, I would have had an abortion.” We find many people who regret their abortions and those who are glad they had an abortion, but I don’t think anyone regrets NOT having an abortion.
Oh Hal,
I knew that…just bein’ silly. Wait, Do dogs smoke grass?
Bobby,
I don’t know. Laura used to post that Ann Landers thing whenever this topic came up and if I recall correctly, many women said they wished they didn’t have their kids.
I guess it wouldn’t surprise me. If women can kill their child before it’s born, why couldn’t they hate it after it’s born.
There is no end to the depravity of the human soul.
I had a stoner friend who got his dog hooked on grass and beer. That dog was WEIRD.
And the worst idea ever is getting really drunk and then smoking grass. Ever heard of “the spins”?
In Texas we called that “being twisted.”
Thank you so much for showing the Survivors in action. My daughters are part of this group (one works for/with them, the other a volunteer). Seeing these little snippets of videos here and there have kept me abreast of what they are doing (text messages here and there). They’ve been so busy, trying to get the word out to a public that is both ignorant of the facts and mostly desires to stay that way. I am always amazed when someone can look at those photos and yet still ‘support’ a ‘woman’s right to choose’. That is willful disobediance…to Nature and to God. Even the staunchest ‘non-believer’ has to agree that the ‘drive’ to propagate, to further, advance the species SHOULD preclude the desire for ‘self’. Mothers SHOULD be the final barrier between harm and their offspring. Humans have conditioned themselves, through lies told to them, and lies told to themselves that this is NORMAL…that killing one’s own child is acceptable behavior in society. Not just normal, but a RIGHT. These same people who approve, would rightfully be appalled if you described to them a scenerio of a ‘religion’ that daily, ‘sacrificed’ their own babies on an altar. They would be mortified if you told them, that this ‘people group’ killed over 3000 children daily in the name of their ‘god’. Anger, amazement and disbelief would drive their emotion. They would say a society such as that was sick, would have to fail and crumble from the very weight of it’s debauchery. Yet, today, they would vote, believe and speak out that WE, the American people have every right to do the same thing, to a shadow god more evil than any one of old. The god of convenience, of greed, lust, selfishness…this is the god they kill our children for. And they spit at those who try to douse those fires (my daughter actually had one of her signs spat upon there in Denver), they are kicked (the other daughter had a man kich her hand as she wrote in chalk “Obama, be consistant, kill ALL Children”.
My daughters are not old Survivors, they are my heroes.
“if I recall correctly, many women said they wished they didn’t have their kids.”
Wow, really? So there are actually people out there who have heard their mother say “I wish I had killed you when I had the chance”? What is one supposed to say about that?
“There is no end to the depravity of the human soul.”
Sometimes I’d like to believe that there is a limit, but that is evidently a fantasy.
Suzi,
Wow! You must be one proud momma! It makes me proud of our prolife young people as well. They have risen up to the challenge of standing up for truth and justice for the weakest among us! God bless your girls!!
Bobby, I think that’s rare, but some parents do think that. Not, “I should have killed you when I had the chance,” but “I should have had an abortion when I was pregnant.”
One reason that wishing they didn’t have kids might be rare is that women who have wanted an abortion since 1973 probably had an abortion. So, they don’t have those “unwanted” children.
Debating with pro-choicers has led me to believe that there probably is no limit to the depravity of the human soul…but then again I was leaning that way to begin with.
jill, love the video! i wish there was more, i would have loved to see more of the peoples reactions!
bobby, i sit here typing and reading all this crap about “there really not human yet” and all i can think about are my three daughters! when will we as a nation finally wake up and protect the unborn!
Hal, thanks for sticking up for me in the thread below this. That’s sweet of you.
Suzi, may God continue to bless your daughters, and may He give them the strength to keep fighting for Him.
One reason that wishing they didn’t have kids might be rare is that women who have wanted an abortion since 1973 probably had an abortion. So, they don’t have those “unwanted” children.
Posted by: Hal at August 28, 2008 1:40 PM
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Nah, I think it’s more likely that once they saw their children on the ultrasound screen, felt those first kicks, and saw, nursed, and held their children, they realized that there is really nothing more incredible on this earth (aside from the saving grace of the Lord) than being a mom. :) LIFE. It really is incredible and beautiful.
Naaman, WOW! Do you have a blog? If not, you should start one! I would definitely read it; I so enjoy your posts.
Naaman 12:14- “Like oral contraceptives and IUDs, breastfeeding also naturally thins the lining of the uterus making it more difficult for a fertilized egg to implant. Would that threaten criminal charges against nursing mothers, lactation specialists and physicians who advocate breastfeeding?
Okay, time for a quick poll. Pro-lifers only: Who wants to put women in prison for breastfeeding?
Anyone? Anyone at all? Bueller?”
LOL-anyone who’s ever gotten pregnant while breastfeeding can attest to the fact that it is quite possible! It’s also possible to get pregnant while on the pill. ;)
I am happy to report my son will be 8 years old in October and is in second grade – a happy, healthy, active, intelligent and compassionate little boy.
Posted by: Sarah at August 28, 2008 11:41 AM
Hi Sarah! What a story! I am so glad you followed your heart and gave your son the chance he needed to prove that drs. are not always right.
My daughter will be turning 8 this October as well.
Hey I have an 8 year old daughter too! Good times!
Kel,
I loved what you wrote. Nothing is more incredible than being a mom…..
Hal,
My mother never said to me, “I wish you had never been born.” She didn’t have to. She treated me that way and the message got through loud and clear.
I still do hear that now and again. When a mom has had it in the store…..”I wish you’d never been born!!” I think it’s a horrible thing to say.
Kel wrote:
Naaman, WOW! Do you have a blog? If not, you should start one! I would definitely read it; I so enjoy your posts.
I had a blog once. I was even a contributer on ProLife Blogs. (Here’s one of my old posts.) It was a hoot.
Sadly, I had to quit blogging. I have a family, a church, and a full-time job. Those blessings don’t leave me with enough time for “real” blogging. So I have to content myself with leaving long-winded comments on other peoples’ blogs. ;)
From time to time, I am tempted to restart blogging. I’m an opinionated guy; I need an outlet. My poor wife is tired of talking politics with me all the time, and we’re still months away from Election Day. But the reasons that I killed my first blog still remain true. I just don’t have the time for proper care-and-feeding of my own blog. In fact, I have less time now than I did when I quit!
(It’s a slow time at work, which is why I’ve been so active during the last few days.)
So thanks for the thought, but the idea has already been considered, tried, and reluctantly discarded. :)
I bet FOCA or something like it will become law within say 15 years even if McCain wins.
I know young people are a little more RTL than older people but that will change as they come to know more and more women who have had abortions.
Oliver, do you live in Texas? Did you see this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harold-pollack/not-one-thin-dime-republi_b_122184.html
And I agree, Bob Casey Jr is the fakest RTL since GHWBush.
SoMG wrote:
I know young people are a little more RTL than older people but that will change as they come to know more and more women who have had abortions.
That’s possible.
It’s also possible that young people will become even more pro-life as they come to know more and more women who have had abortions. Abortion isn’t always a shiny happy experience, and many women suffer terribly from it.
Silent No More:
http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org/
It’s also possible that young people will become more pro-life because of demographics. Specifically, abortion leads to lower birthrates among pro-choice families. Other factors also play a part, but it seems reasonable that abortion is a factor. Over time, lower birthrates lead to each generation being more pro-life than prior generations….
Google “Roe Effect” for more details.
SoMG wrote:
I know young people are a little more RTL than older people but that will change as they come to know more and more women who have had abortions.
The situation is NOT as the get older, it’s the effect college and university has on young people where the proabortion liberal elite have control. At least in Canada, the prolife voice of young people has been shut down. Here, abortion rights are consider = to human rights and therefore nonnegotiable and nondebatable. But I forgot, I live in a virtually totalitarian society…..
Naaman you just need to make your blog posts SHORTER! lol
Erin: you could have gone to quebec and drank there. The legal drinking age is 18. (we start ’em young in Canada!)
Suzi: you have warriors for the unborn! AWE.SOME.
The “Roe effect” assumes children will have the same opinions on the subject as their parents.
And Patricia, I would be surprised if you could find a single university in the USA without a student RTL organization.
I’m not sure the same can be said for pro-choice organizations. Does anyone know, is there a student pro-choice organization at Liberty University or Pepperdine?
It’s also possible that young people will become more pro-life because of demographics. Specifically, abortion leads to lower birthrates among pro-choice families. Other factors also play a part, but it seems reasonable that abortion is a factor. Over time, lower birthrates lead to each generation being more pro-life than prior generations….
Ahoy, Naaman. I don’t think it’s as simple as that – families are not monolithic, and often the parental attitudes are rejected by the kids (and that can certainly happen in pro-choice families too). There is some truth to the old saying that “the preacher’s kids will be the worst in town.”
Also, when really looking at demographics, it is population pressure itself which is one of the most potent forces.
SoMG: I know young people are a little more RTL than older people but that will change as they come to know more and more women who have had abortions.
SoMG, I question that “older people” there – that seems quite a generalization to me. I’d say the “oldest people” would be more against abortion than the younger generation at this time.
Bobby Bambino @ 1:34 PM
Those who make such statements live in prisons of their own making.
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. – Eph 6:12
“I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.” – Jn 16:33
Remember Bobby – God is Sovereign.
Doyle: As a “non-believing pro-lifer”, I can tell you that sometimes it isn’t easy to remain sane, and there are some people who might question whether I actually have done that. I have confidence that if I live out the rest of my life standing up for truth and justice, I can die a peaceful death. And that’s the best way to go, IMO.
Hey Doyle, very nice post. I think what you wrote there gives great evidence of your sanity.
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If I were to dwell on the condition of our society, relative to respect for life issues, I’m sure I would not remain sane, or perhaps alive, for long. So I try to keep busy doing what my conscience tells me I need to be doing.
To me, it’s understandable that a given person feels that way, yet our society is much more concerned about the abortion issue than what is true in many. Many countries don’t have it as a big deal at all.
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I see our present society as not unlike a group of lemmings stampeding towards a cliff. There’s nothing I can do about it, but I don’t have to go along with them.
Dude, you’re just trying to get on MK’s good side, ain’t ya? ; )
Seriously, here I gotta say that your feelings there are shared by some in every generation, going back thousands and thousands of years.
A poll by Pew Research – older people are the most favoring a ban on abortion.
And Patricia, I would be surprised if you could find a single university in the USA without a student RTL organization.
You are probably right. How great is that?
I’m not sure the same can be said for pro-choice organizations. Does anyone know, is there a student pro-choice organization at Liberty University or Pepperdine?
Yes, it’s called Student Government.
From time to time, I am tempted to restart blogging. I’m an opinionated guy; I need an outlet. My poor wife is tired of talking politics with me all the time, and we’re still months away from Election Day. But the reasons that I killed my first blog still remain true. I just don’t have the time for proper care-and-feeding of my own blog. In fact, I have less time now than I did when I quit!
Posted by: Naaman at August 28, 2008 3:03 PM
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I hear ya! ;) But I think a lot of us are in the same boat, and who’s to say what constitutes a “proper” pro-life blog? :) I only blog from time to time when I have something I want to “get on my soapbox” about, but it still gives me an outlet and I enjoy it.
*sigh* Well, I’m hoping you might reconsider one day. I enjoy reading blogs by articulate and busy people (like Jill, of course, and Carla and Bethany, and Christina).
Don’t make me beg. (Kidding.)
Have a great day!