Jivin J’s Life Links 7-8-09
by JivinJ
Under the legislation being worked on by three committees in the House, Americans earning up to 400% of the poverty level – $43k for an individual; $88k for a family of four – would be eligible for government subsidies to help them purchase coverage.
But if the anti-abortion legislators get their way, those subsidies would have a big string attached; they could not be used to purchase a policy that has abortion coverage. For many women, that would mean giving up a benefit they now have under their private insurance policies.
The owner of the clinic, Vickie Mazzorana, is an assistant professor at the University of Nevada Medical Center.
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Two points about the TIME article and healthcare reform:
Judy Waxman made this statement:
“Congress should refrain from practicing medicine and instead let medical professionals determine what health-care services will be included in a benefits package.”
If she thinks for a moment that Obamacare will be a hands-off enterprise, she is sadly, naively mistaken. Congress cannot “allow” med professionals to determine that because of the simple fact that not every procedure under the sun will be considered cost-effective. With Obamacare, Congress will have to control costs (and people) so they MUST stick their nose in doctor/patient decisions. See Exhibit A, Canada and Great Britain.
Second point…
American Spectator a couple of days ago posted an article about the legality of abortion being covered in a healthcare reform bill. It focused more on the language that states “between a woman and her doctor”. Obamacare is between a woman, the congressional committee, and her doctor, thus violating the tenets put forth by Roe.
Of course, that’s all debatable, but it was an interesting point, nonetheless.
Bottom line: prochoicers want their cake and eat it too. Pay for our abortions, but by golly you senators who allocate the money better get out of the way.
The Telegraph reports The House of Lords has voted against allowing Britons to take to another country to for assisted suicide.
Good for them!
My insurance doesn’t cover abortion….but it will cover an emergancy pre-term delivery if the baby or mothers heath is in dire danger. Hey, at least my insurance is willing to SAVE the life of both the mom & the baby.
IMO, if you are earning 43K a year, you can darn well pay for aborting your child.
And I can’t imagine too many families having abortions.
It should be the law that every baby slated to be aborted has to be ultrasounded and the mother MUST see the real time ultrasound.
It is of the utmost importance for us to contact our legislators and attempt to exclude all coverage of abortion from government health insurance. Even if abortion could be excluded,
I think any government health coverage— especially that operated by the socialists/communists running our government—
is going to be a disaster as to expense, muddled bureaucracy and good care.
Abortion is illegal in Australia?
Libertarian, I believe it is technically illegal unless you have doctor refer you for a medical reason. Of course, “mental health” exemptions allow anyone who wants an abortion to have one
“And I can’t imagine too many families having abortions.”
Women have abortions, but women are part of families. Often they’re married, sometimes with other kids already running around the house.
“My insurance doesn’t cover abortion….but it will cover an emergancy pre-term delivery if the baby or mothers heath is in dire danger. Hey, at least my insurance is willing to SAVE the life of both the mom & the baby.”
Posted by: AK Krystal at July 8, 2009 5:53 PM
That’s good news. An elected official or insurance company executive who is instrumental in enacting policy that covers elective abortions is complicit in the act.
I talked with a rep at my insurance company who is pro life, she told me that my insurance company will not pay for an elective abortion. Theu will however pay for a baby to be born before viability but they ask that the baby try to be saved.
She told me of a woman who had lupus and didn’t know she was preggo, she had some high dose radiology which according to the ultrasound had distorted the baby’s limbs. I guess nothing severe but enough to cause a lfietime disability. This company agreed to pay for 80% of the total costs for both the mom and the baby as long as the hospital didn’t go after the mom for the 20% that wasn’t paid.
This woman held her pregnancy until she was 24 weeks along and her water broke. I guess those doses of radio active icky made the placenta and water bag very weak.
So when they rushed her into the hospital they did a c-section because they didn’t want to hurt they baby and the mom having a lupus flare up was too weak to push.
When the baby was born it stopped breathing, the dr did cpr on the baby for almost an hour….the baby passed on. The autupsy revealed that the baby’s lungs were extreamly under devoloped.
This was such a hard story for me to hear, I know this woman didn’t want to have an abortion but the hospital deemed her miscarry and abortion due to the radioation.
I’m pretty sure my insurance company is more pro-life than what I think. If they’re willing to neg. with a hospital to save the life of their card holders then this shows me that they care.
We need more people in this world like EMBS!
Guess who said it:
“Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magazine/12ginsburg-t.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print
“This was such a hard story for me to hear, I know this woman didn’t want to have an abortion but the hospital deemed her miscarry and abortion due to the radioation.
I’m pretty sure my insurance company is more pro-life than what I think. If they’re willing to neg. with a hospital to save the life of their card holders then this shows me that they care. ”
That’s a very sad story. If the baby stopped breathing after C-section, I”d think this would be a fetal death, not abortion or miscarriage (spontaneous abortion), but then I’m not a medical professional. It seems so important if we are discussing abortion that we get the terminology right, you know? This was not an intentional termination of a baby’s life.
Abortion law in Australia varies from state to state. This situation in Queensland (where abortion is technically a criminal offence but allowed for “health” reasons due to a court ruling) is being prosecuted because the parents of the aborted child illegally procured the abortion drugs from overseas without a prescription or any medical supervision from within Australia. (Pro-choice, or pro-life, can we agree that was a dumb idea?) If they had gone to a local Dr, they would have been fine, at least legally. Abortions are easily accessed in QLD- this couple was probably trying to save a few dollars by having a DIY abortion at home with illegally imported drugs, a situation which could have cost the mother her life if she had experienced complications.
My home state, and several others, require no medical justification for abortion through 20 weeks gestation and allow it after that with minimal proof of medical issue in either mother or child. There’s no BAIPA here either- Jill’s former employers would be very much at home in many of our hospitals.