Jill meets Abby
I spoke last night at the inaugural banquet of the Austin Coalition for Life. (Very impressive start with 350 in attendance!)
I caught up with old friends like Shawn Carney, co-founder of 40 Days for Life, and a hero of mine, Chris Danze, the pro-life contractor who threw a big wrench into Planned Parenthood’s building of an Austin, TX, mill in 2003 through construction owner and worker boycotts.
But a real thrill for me was meeting Abby Johnson, an emerging pro-life heroine who quit her job as Bryan, TX, PP director 5 weeks ago…..
(Read backstories here.)
(And don’t forget Abby and Shawn will be on The O’Reilly Factor tonight.)
Abby is quite personable, warm, and articulate. She told me she can’t believe how much she changed in such a short time. For instance, “For 8 years I avoided Fox News because it upset me,” she told me. “But now I find myself not only watching but agreeing. It’s surreal!”
Here’s a take-away for you blessed sidewalk counselors in the crowd. Shawn, during his appeal last night, told a story about Abby and Elizabeth McClung, Austin Coalition’s new, vibrant, young director.
As a teen Elizabeth often prayed in front of Abby’s mill, and she tried to befriend Abby. Once Elizabeth even brought Abby flowers. Abby’s friends inside the mill dissuaded her from retrieving the flowers but when they weren’t looking, she did anyway. Abby always kept the card, which said something about Jesus caring for her, in her office.
The day Abby saw the abortion on ultrasound, she looked at that card and knew what she had to do.
What a touching story and hopefully an encouragement to tarry on in doing good.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Ahhh, God works is come crazy ways sometimes. What a blessing.
Awwwww……
How touching. A selfless, God-fearing woman was willing to totally sell out her beliefs, her co-workers and her patients for fame and money. She’s living the American dream, I suppose.
Jill was outstanding last night! Her passionate speech moved everyone in attendance. My heart is still heavy this morning from hearing the graphic details of what she witnessed at that hospital. The pro-life community in Austin is more charged up now than ever. We must pray for everyone involved in abortions today from the mothers to the abortionists to the clinic managers. Abby sure didn’t leave that clinic for “fame and money” as the Left and some of her “old” friends and co-workers have already begun to smear her. She can be one of the greatest advocates for life. Remember, she didn’t just quit the clinic and go home. She came over to our side. That action alone speaks volumes. We need to pray for her and her family.
Keep telling yourself that, Amanda. I know it’s easier than accepting that someone could see the reality of abortion and turn against it.
Amanda fails at hearing what this woman is actually saying. But I suppose I probably wouldn’t want to listen either if one of my former allies came around and told me I was advocating murder.
Well number one, it’s not murder, because the definition of murder is *illegal* killing, not just killing. Since abortion is legal, it isn’t murder. That’s just vocabulary.
Number two, I’ve listened. I’ve read. The fact that I still don’t agree with her reflects not a lack of comprehension on my part, but a realization that there’s more to the story than the snippet she’s telling.
Number three, I absolutely do not believe that this woman went NINE years working and volunteering for Planned Parenthood without knowing the medical realities of abortion. The ultrasound excuse is just her flimsy justification for wanting to become the next right-wing media darling.
Actually, Amanda. The primary definition of “murder” is “to kill intentionally and with premeditation.”
Of course, it doesn’t matter if you call it murder or homicide or the intentional destruction of a human life. The end result is a dead human. Verbal gymnastics have no place in a debate that ends in the deaths of 3800 a day.
Bernard Nathanson formed NARAL and performed thousands of abortions. Ultrasound changed his mind. I know it’s hard for someone like you to understand that a person’s mind could be changed by watching a child ripped apart limb by limb as it fled the abortionists vaccum, but it happens.
Shame on you Amanda. Abortion is MURDER, killing as deadly and as barbaric as anything ever done to another human being. Slavery, raping slave women, killing Jews, ethnic cleansing were all legal and Shirea law still is indeed “legal” and “sanctioned” by governments. Take your lame pro-death post and shove them. Go to your pro-death websites and spill your guts there.
Amanda,
If abortion is so rock solid awesome, why the need to attack people’s character or question their motives when they leave the industry? Why not say “here’s why abortion is rad and why I stick around to support it” and let your reasoning be held to the fire? If what you’re supporting is a totally legit medical procedure, then it should be no skin off your nose if people leave and share their experiences and opinions.
If you realize that there’s more to the story than the snippet she’s telling, then what’s the rest of the story? Don’t imply that you could set the record straight if you wanted to; if you know the truth, let it be known.
Shame on you, Prolifer L, for trying to equate a woman’s right to control what happens within her own uterus to slaughter and rape. The level of suffering involved is not equivalent at all, even if you think abortion does kill a human person.
I posted here originally not in an attempt to defend abortion but to express disgust at Johnson’s fame-grasping, disingenuous ways. I have no interest in rehashing the fundamentals of the abortion debate with Jill Stanek’s anti-choice, anti-science readers. I will, as you say, go back to my own side and “spill my guts there.” Seeya.
Yes. You have expressed your disgust. Got it.
Any thoughts on the other questions asked of you Amanda? Janette had some very interesting ones. Come on. Don’t leave us hangin.
“Shame on you, Prolifer L, for trying to equate a woman’s right to control what happens within her own uterus to slaughter and rape. The level of suffering involved is not equivalent at all, even if you think abortion does kill a human person.”
Amanda,
You know that abortion is all about power and control. The proof is in the pudding.
Yes, how dare pro-lifer compare a woman deciding to MURDER the child inside her own uterus to slaughter.
I mean, gosh! If it happens inside the womb it’s not really killing. The child just magically floats away into fairy land.
“I have no interest in rehashing the fundamentals of the abortion debate with Jill Stanek’s anti-choice, anti-science readers.”
Of course you don’t. When you can rely on ad hominem attacks and a pretense of knowing the rest of story, why bother with an actual debate? But hey, if you ever want to discuss the science (since you’ve expressed interest in the subject) of embryology and fetal development, you know where to find me.
Wow, it’s really something that Amanda derides us as “anti science”. LMAO!
We’re not the ones who refuse to accept that a human is a human from amphimixis til death, dear. It’s your side that failed second grade science.
Oh, and the reason you “have no desire to rehash the fundamentals of abortion” is because you can’t. Your side loses on every measure. Go back to your echo chamber though. I’m sure you’ll have a lot of fun making teabagger jokes.
Shame on you, Prolifer L, for trying to equate a woman’s right to control what happens within her own uterus to slaughter and rape. The level of suffering involved is not equivalent at all, even if you think abortion does kill a human person.
Posted by: Amanda at November 11, 2009 2:41 PM
Amanda,
If you are still lurking…..the vast vast majority of women didn’t take control of their body in the first place. If they had, an abortion wouldn’t need to be an option would it.
So give up. You lost on that point.
Slaughter and rape? Are you joking?
Babies are torn apart limb from limb, chests and skulls crushed, burned to death from the inside out and have their brains sucked out. You don’t call that a slaughther? You lose again.
Just because this happens in the uterus does not make it any less of a slaughter. If this type of human destruction took place on babies aborted alive outside the uterous it would be sinister.
But since it all takes place behind a uteran wall somehow it makes it all justifiable.
anti science? *laughs* Its the pro abortion side that blocks the Ultrasound screen, fights laws that would require the ‘doctor’ to merely OFFER the abortion bound woman a chance to see her child on the screen, lie about fetal development and dehumanizes the youngest of the human race: the unborn child. So, please don’t accuse US of being anti science when we have the truth about fetal development on our side.
“trying to equate a woman’s right to control what happens within her own uterus to slaughter and rape”
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Huh?..IF a woman DID have the right to control her own uterus, then how come we have diseases/ infections happening to this part of the woman’s anatomy…don’t tell me that women want that to happen?
No, Amanda…you do NOT have ‘exclusive’ control of your body…it is still subject to the Natural process…rendering your so-called “control” argument a fake/delusional one.
I find it so funny. Before Ultra sounds the pro-choice side relied heavily on science to prove that the fetus was just a blob of tissue that was not alive. Now that we have ultra sound and have proved them wrong on this – they still try the ‘pro-lifers are anti-science’ speech. They are the ones trying every legal measure available to them so people do not know what science has shown us.
Just too funny.
Ah, good old Abby. Hope y’all plan to tip her well for her troubles.
See, here’s the thing Carolanne. If Abby really is just playing us all, you should be cheering. Hey, she’s probably giving you an inside window into the pro-life movement. Since you’re here gnashing teeth, it’s obvious that she’s not serving a useful purpose to you.
Essentially, your wailing is making her more credible. Of course, you could all be super sneaky double agents trying to pretend to be offended so that we’ll be off gaurd. Hmm…
What a great example of True Christianity in action and how God works!
Elizabeth prays for Abby, tries to befriend her and gets this awesome idea to buy her flowers and give her a personal message on a card. I believe this is how God works. When we pray for people, while we are in communion with Him, he changes our hearts, moves us with His compassion, and inspires us and gives us God-ideas, and strategies to love those we pray for.
What a blessing! Look what happened!
What an exciting time to be alive serving Christ!
Wow, what a sweet person Elizabeth is, and such a positive example. I can learn a lot from people like her!
Abby is quite personable, warm, and articulate. She told me she can’t believe how much she changed in such a short time. For instance, “For 8 years I avoided Fox News because it upset me,” she told me. “But now I find myself not only watching but agreeing. It’s surreal!”
Abby, I am so thankful for you!
I find it interesting that the majority(if not all) “conversions” are from proabort to prolife. For some it takes much soul searching, or personal experience, some were raised in homes where they were taught respect for ALL life from conception to natural death, others learned about the horrifying truth of what abortion is and does and it changed their hearts.
So grateful today that I was once just like Abby and now I know the truth. I am also glad to be able to fight the good fight with all of you!!!
Shame on you, Prolifer L, for trying to equate a woman’s right to control what happens within her own uterus to slaughter and rape.
Hmmm. During abortion, tiny human beings are sliced n diced or torn limb from limb.
I believe the current expression, Amanda, is EPIC FAIL.
“Abby always kept the card, which said something about Jesus caring for her, in her office.
The day Abby saw the abortion on ultrasound, she looked at that card and knew what she had to do.”
“Love never fails.” 1Co 13.8
Thank you fellow prolifers for your post. I have been gone most of this evening and just got a chance to read your responses to Amanda’s rants. I can see from your responses you are taking care of business as usual, prolife business that is. Carry on. God bless.
Posted by: Amanda at November 11, 2009 12:52 PM
“How touching. A selfless, God-fearing woman was willing to totally sell out her beliefs, her co-workers and her patients for fame and money. She’s living the American dream, I suppose.”
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Goodness do they have you Dead Babies R US folks working in shifts?
Do you pass a literal baton or you have some kind of electronic secret handshake?
BS’er is no where to be found and now we have the demure, the dainty, the alluring Amanda prosecuting the attack.
You gals are going to have to come up with some new ideas, vocabulary, tactics, etc.
Your ‘talking points’ and ‘play book’ must be getting awfully tattered.
So Amanda when your mom was pregnant with you, what species of embryo/fetus was present in her womb?
You mother wasn’t impregnated by an extraterrestial, was she?
You are not the first living example of the long lost and much sought after missing link between man and apes are you?
Some would argue would argue that apes evolved from men, not the other way around.
Is that how you came to be?
yor bro ken
Amanda’s lame attempts at an argument remind me of an Aggie joke.
In the 60’s the Texas Longhorns consistently thumped the Aggie football team.
So the Aggies hatched a scheme to send one of their football players to UT in an attempt to infiltrate and spy on the Texas team.
A Texas coache immediatley recognized the would be spy as an Aggie and told him to leave.
The Aggie asked the coach what he did to give himself away.
The coach said, “You are obviously too stupid to be anything but an Aggie.”
The Aggie challenged the coach to prove he was stupid.
So the coach held his hand up in front a brick wall and asked the Aggie to hit it as hard as he could with his bare hand.
When the Aggie threw the punch the coach moved his hand and the Aggie smashed his fist into the wall, breaking several bones in the process.
So the Aggie limped back to A&M with his hand in cast.
When an Aggie coach saw him he asked why he was back so soon and what happened to his hand.
The Aggie said the Longhorns figured out who I was immediately.
The coach said how did they do that.
The Aggie said that they could tell I was too stupid to be anything but an Aggie.
The coach said what did you do to make them think you were stupid.
The Aggie held his bandaged hand in front of his face and dared the coach to hit it as hard as he could.
Amanda,
Prove to us you are not an Aggie or at the very least that you are smarter than a fifth grader.
yor bro ken
What do you call an Aggie after he/she has graduated?
Boss!
yor bro ken
Right-wing media darling? IS there such thing? We all know how popular right-wingers are in most of the media! I personally think she is very brave to say everything she has said publicly.
Like how Amanda, mistress of logic over at her blog, The Snarky Liberal, can’t make an argument for anything.
Not the definition of murder, nor the definition of choice.
GET. A. DICTIONARY. You NEED it.
no wonder “pro-choice” is losing and is so NOT COOL.
From my experience, it takes so much more courage to be pro-life than pro-abortion. Hopefully, the trend is reversing and even those who are afraid will stand for life.
I agree, Juneau. To make a stand in spite of others middle fingers and yelled obscenities is not easy.
“Abby always kept the card, which said something about Jesus caring for her, in her office.”
“The day Abby saw the abortion on ultrasound, she looked at that card and knew what she had to do.”
“Love never fails.” 1Co 13.8
Posted by: Ed at November 11, 2009 7:12 PM
Isn’t it awesome? Those prayers for abortion providers are working. In the same spirit, maybe it would be a good idea to deliver a Christ-centered Christmas card to our local Planned Parenthoods with sincere good wishes – no obnoxious remarks. A religious card might anger some, but it may help change the minds and hearts of others. Maybe it would jar the memories of a person who grew up in a Christian household and has drifted away. It could be the only Christmas card that someone sees this Christmas.
Wow! I just checked out Jill’s blog and saw all of these wonderful comments! This is Abby (the new right-winged media star). :) I just wanted to say that we all need to remember that the best way to change hearts and minds is through devoted prayer for those who oppose us. We must remember that even with all of our best efforts their hearts must be ready to change…that will only with God’s touch. I will now pray for Amanda by name and encourage all of you to do the same. Keep the faith!! Blessings to all of you!
Abby
God bless you, Abby!! Prayer is our greatest weapon and I am so thankful for those who prayed you here! :)
‘Amanda’ has attacked me on Twitter on numerous occasions. All snark, no substance. These are feminists we’re talking about, folks. They will eat one of their own in a second to score cheap political points in order to save their agenda. It was hilarious how fast these ‘ladies’ turned on Abby as soon as she had a change of heart. Feminists ‘care’ for women only as much as they are in agreement-after that their personhood and character are as much in question as that of the unborn, yet they never hesitate to play the victim when it comes to matter of personal accountability. Feminists can only parrot feminist dogma, and all their hollow arguments )all 2 of them) all come back to ‘it’s all about me and what I want.’
When my now-32-year-old daughter was in high school, she and one of her friends watched my copy of “The Silent Scream.” Recently, the friend had a baby. She told my daughter her mother encouraged her to have an abortion, but that she refused because, according to her, “I’ll never forget that video of your mom’s we watched of an abortion.” We never know when the right words or the right actions said or done will have a life-saving effect. Always do the right thing.
For Amanda:
May the Lord bless you and keep you and hold you safe in the palm of His hand.
I hope you are on a path that I took 40 yrs ago, a journey from where you are now to where Elizabeth is now-and I hope this journey leads you to “the peace that surpasses all understanding”. You, Amanda, are made in the image and likeness of God, and He loves you every moment of every day. dadgdad
Amanda: “Well number one, it’s not murder, because the definition of murder is *illegal* killing, not just killing. Since abortion is legal, it isn’t murder. That’s just vocabulary.”
That’s true. And when it becomes illegal, it *will* be considered murder.
“I have no interest in rehashing the fundamentals of the abortion debate with Jill Stanek’s anti-choice, anti-science readers.”
“Anti-science”? This from the side that thinks the Personhood Fairy waves her wand as they’re cutting the umbilical cord, to confer, magically, the status of human being to a previously parasitic mass. Huhkay…
And since she claims to have no interest in debate we can assume she only showed up here to bait people, same as she does on Twitter. I have to laugh at these ‘gals’ like her who claim we are intolerant while they promote the deaths of others. Yesterday they were bashing gay people who happen to be Prolife. That’s a liberal for you, incensed over the death penalty while enacting it on others. Bizarro world.
Amanda and Carolanne, do you also march for the rights of prostitutes? Go online to defend the right of women to make choices with their bodies and have sex for money? Or, you only go online to bash those who turn from your bloody industry.
I’m sure you’re not awful people. You’re just sold out to a bunch of lies. We do have science on our side and more importantly we have Christ on our side. We’re a nice bunch, we don’t hate you (much as we think you’re wrong and chuckle when you throw flimsy arguments our way). We’re always willing to include those who want to leave the dark side and see the light.
Abby, My name is RJ Sandefur. Whe I was born in 1979, I waid one pound, fiveounces, and I was eleven inches long. The doctors gave up on me, and told my mother to pull the plug, but she wouldn’t. My mother died last satterday, after a long illness, and I will never forget her love and care for me. Amanda, You are sadly mistaken. Some one like me, deserves to live. If you think aborton is cool, Pleaseread the story about baby Shanice, and how whe she was born alive, She was stuffed in to a bag, and left to die! Dr. Renelique was her doctor, and he won’t even face justice! Now do you think abortion is cool? RJ
RJ Sandefur,
I am sooo glad you are here today!!