(Prolifer)ations 12-7-10
by Susie Allen, host of the blog, Pro-Life in TN
- Wesley J. Smith explains how single-payer health insurance and rationing go hand in hand.
- Stand for Life shares the incredible story of a former Ms. Philippines Universe, who saw God’s hand in the most unexpected places when she sought an abortion in 1985.
- Secular Pro Life disapproves of Apple’s decision to remove the Manhattan Declaration app from their iPhones.
- ProWomanProLife refers to a National Post article which points out the restriction of free speech on college campuses like Carleton University in Ottawa and even in the Canadian Parliament. This is occurring despite polls that show most Canadians favor some restrictions on abortion.
- Pro-Life Wisconsin notes the Salvation Army takes only a partial pro-life stance, with General Shaw Clifton stating, “There are situations in which abortion is the lesser evil, for instance in cases of severe deformities of the fetus, [or] rape.”PLW encourages readers to download and drop this note in the kettles this year.
- Pro-Life Action League discusses those with quadriplegia and how their disability does not necessarily determine quality of life. Depression is often an ignored, but treatable factor in disabled persons.
- Fr. Frank Pavone explains the history behind “Our Lady of Guadalupe” and why Catholics often portray her as the patroness of the pro-life movement.
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Well Wesley J Smith, good thing we aren’t going to a single-payer system (though we have rationing in healthcare today anyways…)
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Listen to Smith when he says: ”When you have single payer, you have hard budgets. And when the costs crash against the budgetary wall, people get rationed, usually those with the least political clout.”
Smith is talking hard reality. No rose colored glasses for him. Obamacare supporters by and large are clueless as to what is awaiting them. Obamacare is headed first to rationing– which is a key component of controlling costs under Obamacare And next, for the Utopian libs who had to settle for Obamacare against their wishes because parts of it did not go far enough, Obamacare is but a first step on the way to the glorious day when they finally get single payer.
Yes, we do agree on the need for reform, but reform is one thing and Obamacare is quite another thing altogether. If you love the nanny state increasingly taking over health care decisions for your family and your beautiful children and other loved ones, then continue to support Obamacare. But if you want the availability of, for example, a double transplant for your child or other loved ones you had better hope that the laws in the state of Oregon will not serve as a template for Obamacare. In this case you had better hope that the Repubs or the courts are successful in overturning Obamacare because once big gov issues a set of rules they are extremely difficult to overturn.
I love the story about the beauty queen, Joyce Titular. If only that doctor had decided not to abort women’s babies with all his patients!
Jerry – Not worried about it:
1) Obama’s never been a proponent of single payer as the ONLY option…even in his books, pre-Presidency he talks about the need for insurance companies. So if single payer comes in, it is because we got much farther down the road and the current system continued to crash.
2) The only people in life who DON’T have hard budgets is the federal government…
3) Rationing already exists in insurance companies
I ended up taking off for thansgiving and was gone for a week on the other thread we had going – but you had mentioned once that you were sure a loved one would not have gotten care if health care reform was in place…yet admitted later that you had no idea the impacts of ‘what would be taken away’, and you were simply guessing based on experiences in other countries. So, it might be a bit too early to be paranoid.
I am sorry you see this as “paranoid”. If that is so then there are millions of us. It is called “realism”my friend. I am used to criticisms from the left, even as I join with those who are working to bring clarity to public discourse on critical issues such as abortion and Obamacare.
Are you certain you understand Obamacare in all of its stated objectives? Can you predict how the 150+ new agencies created in the bill will act? What ARE these bureaucrats going to be doing? Surely you understand that you do not want a low level government bureaucrat making health decisions for your loved ones. Believe me, you are better off having to battle an insurance company than the “system”.
If you really did understand Obamacare in all of its stated objectives and implications for our health system then you would be against it. Take a long look at criticisms of Obamacare with an open mind. And then consider what I have been saying all along–reform is one thing, Obamacare quite another.
View this link and tell me if the doctor is “paranoid”.
http://theblogprof.blogspot.com/2010/11/video-of-dr-drew-predicts-predicting.html
I’m not sure if that is quite the video you wanted to post – he’s speaking in reference to the SGR that dates back to 1997. The cuts get kicked further and further – folks like Dr Drew and the AMA wanted it complete cut out during the health care reform…but again, this is something every congress has continued to pass along for 13 years. If anything, this supports the notion that actual reform is needed in Medicare – reforms like the independent panel looking at medicare costs overall (one that has been praised by folks in the midwest because we have much better value than most of the nation is getting…did you see info that came out of the summit recently? Got some good coverage in our area – Mayo had some good suggestions on taking the next steps).
When health care reform kicks in, I’ll still be on private insurance, as will most of the country. Those decisions will still be made by insurance companies – they just can’t kick me off plans as easily as they could in the past. That is a good thing.
Ex: There are many articles and videos that address this subject. Probably the most thorough examination is the compilation of articles compiled by the Wall Street Journal–problem is though I think a person has to purchase it. I read many of the articles as they came along and if anyone were to do an in-depth examination of Obamacare a review of these would certainly be in order.
I chose this video because in it the doctor underlines the machinations that we can expect from more and more gov involvement in our health care systems. Is he “paranoid”? I don’t think he is.
Oh, if you were living in Oregon and your loved one needed a double transplant and he or she was on medicaid, what would be your options? Perhaps you might be able to find a way around it by moving to a different state. But remember–when the federal government undertakes a regime of rationing under Obamacare the rules they enact will be universal. What would you do for your loved one then?
The point here is we have to think about the ramifications of Obamacare beyond the bottom line on our paycheck stub. We have to think about how Obamacare will ultimately affect our children.
I am not the only one that sees a train wreck coming. As a parent I want ALL OPTIONS on the table when it comes to treating a child–I want ZERO interference by the state. Obamacare WILL at first nibble around the edges and as time moves forward we can go right back to the quote from Wesley Smith: “…when the costs crash against the budgetary wall, people get rationed..” Now is the time to defeat Obamacare which has the stated intention and the apparatus to enact widespread rationing.
Jerry – one thing we can both agree on is the long term. Under the trajectory that health care has been on for the last couple of decades, we were in for a big crash. I think that the reform is a great first step to getting the system back under control. You don’t, and that is fine. Quite frankly, neither of us know how it will turn out. You have fear, I have optimism – but we’ll see.
It sounds like what you want is more of a European style where everyone is covered – that is a good goal. Too many families don’t have all the options on the table, and health care is becoming less of an option for the average American.
There was a recent local health care summit where a top dog from Mayo said that repealing isn’t the answer – the answer is continuing to work to make the reform stronger and better for us all.