Jivin J’s Life Links 2-28-11
by JivinJ, host of the blog, JivinJehoshaphat
- Robert George discusses Bernard Nathanson’s pro-life conversion at Public Discourse:
Fourth, the abortion movement sought to appeal to conservatives and liberals alike by promoting feticide as a way of fighting poverty. Why are so many people poor? It’s because they have more children than they can afford to care for. What’s the solution? Abortion. Why do we have to spend so much money on welfare? It’s because poor, mainly minority, women are burdening the taxpayer with too many babies. The solution? Abortion. Initially, Nathanson himself believed that legal abortion and its public funding would reduce out-of-wedlock childbearing and poverty, though (as he later admitted) he continued to promote this falsehood after the sheer weight of evidence forced him to disbelieve it.
- A new Planned Parenthood facility is opening today near San Francisco:
“And while most of our clients are not high school students, some of them are,” [PP Shasta Pacific President and CEO Heather] Estes said. “Those students in particular don’t always have access to cars, so being close to the high school was important. It was a combination of factors that made this the best space for us.”Pastor Pat Michaels of Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church on Oakdale Ave. was less enthused than Estes about the arrival of a clinic that would be providing abortions.
The article also notes how PP has been able to move back into the San Francisco area so quickly after disaffiliating the former PP Golden Gate.
- Melanie Phillips writes in the Daily Mail about the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists’ latest guidance:
This guidance, intended for all doctors, nurses and counsellors advising women contemplating having an abortion, said such women should be told that terminating a pregnancy was safer than having a baby.To which one can only ask: safer for whom, precisely? Not for the baby, certainly.This is not meant to be a flip comment. For the point is that these doctors seemed to have totally lost sight of some basic humanity here.
- According to Jim Geraghty, Planned Parenthood will be spending $200k to play the ad below which stresses their need for tax dollars. Notably missing is any mention of the a-word:
[youtube width=”480″ height=”385″]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJlQ_9_Fufo[/youtube]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
My favorite line from the video was: “Without planned parenthood, I wouldn’t be here today.”
1. I just looked it up, and on their website for my area, planned parenthood tells you to go to Colorado – Women’s Wellness Connection for cervical cancer screenings, but never mentions doing them.
2. Because of planned parenthood, millions of humans never got the chance to be here today.
I also think it’s ironic that they chose a mother of two for their ad.
If Planned Parenthood wants to use their last $200k of our money to buy ads, that’s fine with me.
This summer, they will be paying for lawn care with our money. They’ll be begging for volunteers to mow the grass in front of their clinics. It’s unfortunate that they don’t know many women with teen-aged boys.
“Planned Parenthood fills a huge gap for women like myself and my daughters who need someplace to go.”
Easy solution: Close the local Planned Parenthood, open up a family medical practice in its place, and give the family medical practice whatever money you were going to give to Planned Parenthood.
“And while most of our clients are not high school students, some of them are,” [PP Shasta Pacific President and CEO Heather] Estes said. “Those students in particular don’t always have access to cars, so being close to the high school was important. It was a combination of factors that made this the best space for us.”
Driving age is 16. Isn’t it great that PP is catering to 12-15 year old’s sexual needs? They can go during study hall.
John Lewandowskisays:
February 28, 2011 at 4:49 pm
That’s a great idea! Why didn’t they think of that?
If Planned Parenthood closes, abortion services will, hopefully, be moved to the hospitals where women like me have always been able to access terminations of pregnancies. It could actually be a good thing because hospitals will not tolerate “sidewalk counselors” on their property. No more “walking the gauntlet” of rosary chanters and pleas about not killing yer baby. Poor – poor women. Those of us in more affluent classes have never had to walk their walk. Quite sad, actually….But at the end of the day, “the rich get rich and the poor get babies, ain’t we got fun!”
And BTW, if you think abortion will be eradicated in the beautiful, tolerant city by the Bay, you ‘re deluding yourself.
“Isn’t it great that PP is catering to 12-15 year old’s sexual needs? They can go during study hall”
But if they have STD’s, who cares. Let them pay for their sins. Right?
and John L, a family medical practice won’t put a 12 year old on birth control without a parent’s knowledge OR Consent.
and John L, a family medical practice won’t put a 12 year old on birth control without a parent’s knowledge OR Consent
Depends on the law of the state.
California has no restrictions
http://www.contracept.org/minorsaccess.php
And if young girls are sexually active, isn’t it more prudent to allow them to control their fertility so they won’t have babies? Or are babies the mandatory outcome of every sexual encounter – regardless of age.
CC: “If Planned Parenthood closes, abortion services will, hopefully, be moved to the hospitals where women like me have always been able to access terminations of pregnancies.”
Glad to know “doing harm” is still supported by hospitals!
Yes – and that is the point. They set up shop so the young get sucked in and trust them. As I told people before – it’s breaking down their natural modesty, pitting them against their parents, and reeling them in on contraception which will lead to the next service (STD, Pap smears, prescription medicine, abortion, sterilization). As Abby said – I trusted them. I wanted to help. I believed them.
It’s all sales – all language to belie the facts. And we are handing them our children. I wonder if they had a referendum in that city of where they were going to re-locate. Probably not.
Glad to know “doing harm” is still supported by hospitals!
Your definition. But hey, let’s let women who need to terminate go to back alley butchers (right, that never happened) or self induce the terminations. Serves em right for getting in nature’s way. Right? Ah, the good old days when poor women had no options and the well to do Irish Catholic women of my old neighborhood got “D&C’s” to take care of their problem. Funny, the secular nations of western Europe don’t have anywhere near the amount of “pro-life” zealotry that we have here – yet, they’re happier (Denmark being the happiest), more educated, more cultured, than god’s USA. Zealotry is a strange American aberration…
It’s all sales – all language to belie the facts
My generation was sold the be chaste bill of goods. Guess what. That didn’t work. Those of us who practiced contraception were fine. Those who didn’t got to be mommies and that wasn’t always optimum. But yeah, let’s preach against contraception. Didn’t work in 1965 and won’t work now. Funny, when Planned Parenthood came to our town, it was filled with girls from all the local Catholic schools. And we knew we were sinning – tee, heee.
Glad to see that you enjoyed sinning so much. Too bad. Maturity usually brings a sense of being wiser and more grounded. People can get that earlier or later, but usually it happens (hopefully). Living fully within Judeo-Christian values is living a full, loving and conscious life.
I was one of those Catholic girls that went down the wrong road. Glad I woke up and started living a much better life. It’s freeing, living the right kind of life. Deep, beautiful, devoted. no sinning, just loving. tee, heee.
OK CC,
We got it. Catholic girls have sex in their teens and some have abortions. No need to re-hash what is common knowledge. Religion is not the cause of this. To fail is to be human.
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Joy,
Well said!
‘young girls’ shouldn’t be having sex. They should concentrate on important things like getting an education.
young girls’ shouldn’t be having sex. They should concentrate on important things like getting an education
They shouldn’t but they do!
Interesting, CC. You agree that young girls shouldn’t be having sex? Why not? How can you make such a judgement?
Janet, I don’t know where you grew up, but the driving age being 16 is a far cry from saying that all 16 year olds have access to cars.
the pill is a LEVEL ONE Carcinogen. Combine that with just developing into a woman bodies and you have TROUBLE with a Capital T.
@CC: Since you have such a disdain for “American zealotry”, and all of the other “abberations” here in God’s USA, I’ll GLADLY buy you a ONE WAY first class ticket to Denmark. Once there, you can FINALLY be free of your Catholic education and all the daily reminders of it. For someone as unhappy as you obviously are, then Denmark is where you need to be.
Gee, CC, now you’re just cutting and pasting your earlier thought-free anti-Catholic rants. Each one is gonna cost you though. A total of $33 so far.
And “tee-hee”? Really? Seriously?
The wording on the film clip reads:
830,000 Breast Exams
One million cancer screenings
500,000 HIV tests
Here’s what they CONVENIENTLY LEFT OUT:
332,278 DEAD BABIES and that’s a direct quote from THEM…just for the year 2009.
Business was certainly booming that year.
They also should have included:
The # of pedophiles and child rapists they didn’t report AS IS REQUIRED BY LAW…
The # of ADOPTION referrals they made.
The # of underage girls they LIED to about pregnancy and ALTERNATIVES to abortion.
Wolves in sheeps clothing, for sure.
What, you mean those HIV tests they charge for but admittedly can be done at the local health department (where a lot of people go for their exams) for next to nothing or FREE??
You mean breast exams like they can do at the health department at a yearly exam? No mammograms, though, that’s for sure. They outsource those.
Cancer screenings? As in pap smears?
Please refresh my memory as to what PP does that a local health department won’t do for much less $$?
Oh, that’s right. Abortions.
Each one is gonna cost you though. A total of $33 so far.
Hmm. I wish I could find some way for CC to actually lose money every time she makes some anti-Catholic crack. Maybe that would affect here. . .
Without you Lord; all our efforts would be in vain. May Jesus Christ be always on our minds, on our lips and at the center of our hearts. Cause only with your Holy Spirit are we able to battle against Satan and his minions here on earth. Bless us with strength Lord that we may serve you in all we say and do. Lord your people rejoice that you have brought Planned Parenthood’s day of reckoning upon us and have blessed us with the works of Lila Rose. In the name of Jesus Christ we ask you to send your Holy angels down to dwell with us always and guide us in righteous ways that we may open the eyes of sinners to the truth and that they may repent and bring glory to Your son our Lord Jesus Christ.
“830,000 Breast Exams”? Are you kidding me?
Think about it for a minute. Joel Brind, the noted breast cancer researcher, estimates that 300,000 women have died from breast cancer since 1973, above and beyond those who would otherwise have died, because they killed their unborn children
Over 50,000,000 unborn children have been killed since 1973. Planned Parenthood has killed 5,000,000 unborn children since 1970, which is roughly ten per cent of the total.
This means that Planned Parenthood could be responsible for having caused 30,000 women to die from breast cancer in the last 40 years or so.
Do you think this might be a useful statistic for the Planned Parenthood tax subsidy debate upcoming in the Senate?
“My generation was sold the be chaste bill of goods.”
CC, you already admitted on another thread that you were 62. You were the ‘free love’ generation. YOU sold US a promiscuous bill of goods. And guess what? It’s not working. You think that girls as young as 12 should be having sex without their parents knowledge and that even if they are being abused by older men, they should only be given the option of abortion and medicine for their STDs while PP rewards pedophiles with the destruction of their pre-born children.
You are 62 CC. Guess who’s hands you are going to be in soon? The younger generation you’ve been working so hard to slaughter. Think you have some ‘living will’ documents filed? Well, your darling president has declared war on democracy. If American votes and Congressional legislation is all null and void at the whim of a president, what hope should you have for your living will and your resucitation instructions? The survivors of the generation you’ve been killing off have your life in their hands, CC. They can kill you quick or leave you alone in a room for weeks on end, pondering how it came to this.
Soon and very soon, CC, you are going to be helpless and look up at someone else who can kill you or care for you. Will they be compassionate? Will it be your brand of compassion or ours?
Wait, Joe…what? Planned Parenthood has performed 10% of abortions, and so they’re responsible for 10% of breast cancer deaths?
Can someone please explain to me how that makes sense? Or at least confirm that Joe is just being crazy and not speaking for the community here?
Andrew MacKie-Mason says:
February 28, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Janet, I don’t know where you grew up, but the driving age being 16 is a far cry from saying that all 16 year olds have access to cars.
You’re right, but most sixteen year-olds have a friend with access to a car. There’s always public transportation. I think the transportation issue is a poor reason for locating an abortuary close to a high school! Even CC agrees that young girls shouldn’t be having sex. (February 28, 2011 at 6:14 pm) (Love it!)
What Joel Brind is researching is that when a woman is pregnant, her cells in the breast tissue are immature – and they only get to maturity (full-functioning milk-duct cells) late in a pregnancy. They, if you will, get a ‘go’ signal to mature and change. They do not fully mature until late in pregnancy (I think it’s 28-32 weeks). When a pregnancy stops unnaturally – there is no signal to tell those cells to stop changing – and yet they are not to their fully mature state, which naturally helps ward off cancer. Most breast cancers are in those cells that have not matured properly.
When a woman naturally miscarries, her own body signals the cells to stop changing, since the body knows there will be no baby to feed. But in the case of abortion – there are no natural signals to stop the changing of those breast cells – and since they are left in an immature state, and yet bursting to change – they are ripe for cancer.
When women have their children (not abort), and have them before age 30, and especially if they breastfeed – it is a natural way to help the body ward off cancer of the breast. The extrapolations of the explosion of breast cancer coincides almost directly with abortion (and secondarily with delayed childbirth). Since most women here in the States abort their first children, that makes them more susceptible to breast cancer.
One of most available ways for women to help avoid breast cancer is to have a full-term pregnancy, and avoid abortion.
That is a short-hand explanation of the breast cancer link with abortion.
see http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com for more information.
Like like PP is going down, even CC is preppng herself for it. So now Women can get care elsewhere- yeah!
For all the po’ folk haters- I’m in early labor, about to be induced in hosp with my fourth po’ baby. So exciting! We are a happy, respectable family with less in the bank than you. But the joy (and commotion) in our home is undeniable. So far, our kids have read before they are five and excel in their school subjects. And they’re surrounded by love. Money stress at times, but always love.
Life is good, God is good. No need for PP or the po’ folk haters when you’ve got a fulfilling life. Oh, and we’re smarmy Catholics who love Jesus and have advanced degrees, too. Tee hee, indeed!
God bless you, Mary Ann!!
Mary Ann, I hope all goes well with your delivery! Healthy mommy and baby wishes for you! :)
Mary Ann,
Praying for you and your po baby!! Would love to get our po families together and laugh about how po we are but how rich in love!!
Can’t wait to hear about the birth!!
ditto! God speed!
Thanks, people! I lean on your prayers and hope to comment with an update mańana. Carrying all the good prolife news with me is a joy. Thanks for the blog!
Pitocin has begun… Signing off for now!
Congratulations Mary Ann!
Janet, if transportation isn’t an issue, why do you object to having a family planning office near a high school? Isn’t your objection to their location based on a belief that it will make it easier for teens to obtain abortions?
Is it a boy or a girl?
The “tee-hee” at the end of one of CC’s post was something I found very disturbing. I don’t get how Catholics knowingly sinning is so funny. What? Because you see it as “ironic”? Ain’t nothing funny or ironic about sin, CC.
That’s what I’d term “Morbidly ironic” and that’s not funny. Not one single iota.