Jivin J’s Life Links 8-8-11
by JivinJ, host of the blog, JivinJehoshaphat
- China is promising to work on its sex-selection abortion problem:
The pledge is in the outline of a plan for childhood development through 2020 but has no specifics. The plan said authorities would increase efforts against the non-medical use of ultrasound tests and abortion of fetuses based on gender.
- Salon did some research into a woman whose death from an illegal abortion shaped Mitt Romney’s previous pro-choice beliefs.
- Abortionist Richard Leigh from North Dakota recently died. In his career, he performed more than 11,000 abortions:
In January 2003, on the 30th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, Leigh said in an interview with the Herald that he had no regrets about his medical career choices.
“Abortion is not a good solution,” he said then. “It would be better if we didn’t have it. But it would be even better if we didn’t need it.”
- The Daily Mail has the story of Charlie Allen, a 5-year-old who was born at 23 weeks, weighing 1 lb. 7 oz. (photo at left):
Charlie’s survival prompted Mrs. Allen to re-ignite the debate on the abortion time limit, and she has called for the current 24-week deadline to be lowered.
She said: ‘How can you say at that stage that they are not a life. They are babies – Charlie is living proof of that.
‘The abortion time limit should be reduced.
‘Charlie has amazed all his doctors and the hospital staff. He was faced with battle after battle from the moment he was born, but he’s overcome them all – he’s my little fighter.’
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Dear China,
Perhaps you should consider the reason for the ultrasound tests, sex selection abortion and forced abortion in your country.
One child policy!
Hey Hal:
Obama is the video!
Meh, Romney STILL is pro-choice. However, with Rick Perry almost certainly entering the race, I doubt that Romney will be the front-runner for long. Perry has something that none of the other candidates have — charisma. I’m not saying I would vote for him, but he is definitely going to be a game changer.
I think it’s really tacky for Salon to dig up a tragic and personal story like this to slander Romney. It’s also sad that this young woman felt compelled to have an abortion because she was single and unmarried. But once again, we hear the 5,000 women died from illegal abortions before Roe. Really, Salon?
Doesn’t Bachmann have charisma too? Palin? The other thing that Perry has is hundreds of executions on his watch.
I didn’t find the Salon article to be ‘slandering’ Romney. It was pointing out a possible reason for his slightly tortuous position on choice. I found it interesting that he said “I have my own beliefs, and those beliefs are very dear to me. One of them is that I do not impose my beliefs on other people.”
I really, really would rather not have another Texas governor as President. ;)
Oh I love little baby Charlie! He is beautiful.
“I really, really would rather not have another Texas governor as President.”
In Texas the dead pay taxes and vote democrat.
How bout we resurrect LBJ for ya?
The dead provided the margin of victory for LBJ.
JFK died to make room for LBJ in the oval office.
[Just heard on the news today the Jackie Kennedy believed LBJ was involved in her husbands death.Whoa!]
No reason why democrats would NOT elect a corpse as long as he had a ‘d’ after her/his/it’s name and promised to ensure child killing remained ‘safe and legal’.
de-odorize the white house: remove b o
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The Salon piece on Romney cited studies that indicated, prior to Roe v Wade, as many as 5,000 women each year died from complication from illegal abortions.
[Could not help but remember Bernard Nathanson telling how they manufactured those figures to sell ‘safe and legal’ abortions.]
The lie that will not die…….though Nathanson did.
I am sure that is one ‘ring of the bell’ Bernard would love to take back.
But you have to give Nathanson his due. When he came to his senses he worked tirelessly to undo the damage his ‘lie’ had done.
Ok Ken, I was joking. I don’t vote Democrat anyway, most of the time. Surprising, huh?
Yor bro ken,
You have a great nose for fishy numbers. One of the articles they cite is something by Lawrence Lader, who was Dr. Nathanson’s partner in cooking up those false statistics about abortion deaths.
Also, I love how all their totals are “estimates” but they never say based on what!
China says it’s cracking down on sex-selective abortions to close the gender gap. Don’t hold your breath. They promised the same thing in 2004, and the gender gap has not closed, but widened since then. “Discrimination against, maltreatment and abandonment of baby girls are prohibited,” and have been since the Family Planning Law was adopted in 2001, and yet these practices continue. According to the Washington Post article, China’s current “vow [to] crackdown on sex-selective abortions” contains no specific plan. Without a specific plan, including some measures with teeth in them, China’s “vow” is doomed to failure.
In 1994 Romney said, “I have my own beliefs, and those beliefs are very dear to me. One of them is that I do not impose my beliefs on other people.”
What nonsense! Romney at that time said he was opposed to abortion but wouldn’t “impose his beliefs on other people.” It’s clear that he didn’t really believe that unborn children are “other people.”
Anyway, if you’re going to live with other people, it’s impossible not to “impose” your beliefs on them. And if you are a Christian, then you want everyone else to share your beliefs in the Christ–because you really do believe in Him. I call this phenomenon love.
Jon says:
August 9, 2011 at 1:17 am
In 1994 Romney said, “I have my own beliefs, and those beliefs are very dear to me. One of them is that I do not impose my beliefs on other people.”
What nonsense! Romney at that time said he was opposed to abortion but wouldn’t “impose his beliefs on other people.” It’s clear that he didn’t really believe that unborn children are “other people.”
(Denise) Actually he COULD believe that unborn children are “other people” and still be, however reluctantly, in favor of abortion being legal. In the case of the woman recounted in the Salon article, did the law against abortion save the life of her fetus? It didn’t and couldn’t because the female can be fine without the unborn inside of her while the unborn automatically dies if she does. Many people who favor abortion’s legality believe the unborn are doomed if the females are unwilling to carry to term and thus, you might as well save the life that CAN be saved — that of the female — by legally allowing her to expel the unborn at the unborn’s life. One will live. If abortion is illegal and the pregnant female is butchered in a haphazard abortion or commits suicide, both die.
“The other thing that Perry has is hundreds of executions on his watch.”
Texas governors do not have the power to stop executions.
They cannot pardon, commute or grant clemency.
The only thing they can do grant a 30 day one time stay.
A Texas governor has very little power.
The power positions in Texas are the Lieutenant Governor and the Chairman of the Railroad commission.
I read that Salon article. Of course it ignores the obvious: Why didn’t she just get married? She was engaged and plenty old. So what was up with the guy?
If abortion is illegal and the pregnant female is butchered in a haphazard abortion or commits suicide, both die.
Women are now legally being butchered, physically, mentally, spiritually and emotionally by legal abortion.
We need to help the mentally ill. It is not okay to legally kill the offspring of suicidal humans.
Reality: ” The other thing that Perry has is hundreds of executions on his watch.”
When a governor comes into office, is he obliged to single-handedly thwart the rule of law — law established before he came into office through democratic processes?
How is Perry to blame for what representative government in Texas appears to have wanted for over 150 years? And what the SCOTUS, over a period of many years of torturous jurisprudence, finally approved as constitutional?
Is this some attempt to impugn Perry among pro-lifers? Best of luck with that, since the alternative in Texas in 2010 was pro-choice Bill White. And the executions would have proceeded apace anyway had White won, since he did not support a moratorium as some of his primary challengers did.
hippie says:
August 9, 2011 at 10:49 am
I read that Salon article. Of course it ignores the obvious: Why didn’t she just get married? She was engaged and plenty old. So what was up with the guy?
(Denise) This reminded me of a story I read many years ago before Roe v. Wade. A newly married woman came in for an abortion because she and her husband lived in a small town. If she carried to term, her baby would be born shy of nine months after the wedding. They wanted the abortion because people in small towns are so likely to gossip. This seemed to me like a very weak reason for aborting. Their friends and neighbors might make a few jokes about how fat their “premature” baby was but in about a year no one would even remember it. They would be just another family which was the fate, I believe, of most “shotgun” marriages.
It could be that the engaged woman wasn’t aborting because she was unmarried and might have aborted even if she had been married. Wives get abortions. Aborting because a baby is likely to be “early” just doesn’t make that much sense.
Almost 40 years after Roe V Wade was supposed to save women— we’re still seeing hospital admissions due to bleeding and infections after abortions.
What’s with that?
Denise Noe said that Romney “COULD believe that unborn children are ‘other people’ and still be, however reluctantly, in favor of abortion being legal. In the case of the woman recounted in the Salon article, did the law against abortion save the life of her fetus?”
Suppose Mr. Romney could indeed believe that unborn children are “other people” and still reluctantly favour legal abortion. Mr. Romney believed more, however; at least, he said he did. As I had already noted, he said that he did not believe in “imposing his beliefs on other people.” Then why would he impose his reluctant belief in legal abortion on innocent unborn children? One belief that he should have, and that he should “impose,” is his responsibility to protect Americans from violence. (And, as Praxedes said, why would he impose his reluctant belief in legal abortion on expectant mothers vulnerable to temptation?)