Abortion numbers down in AZ, but Planned Parenthood still does 90%; laments 400 “real children” who may survive
The number of abortions in Arizona is down – sharply – in the wake of new laws restricting the procedure.
Figures provided by the state health department show 729 pregnancies were terminated medically last month. That compares to 1,069 the month before – and an average of more than 1,200 a month in the prior year.
Those new laws include prohibitions on abortions by anyone other than a doctor and requiring a woman to have a face-to-face conversation with a doctor at least 24 hours before the procedure….
“It’s 100 percent due to the shortage of providers,” [Bryan Howard, president of Planned Parenthood Arizona] said. Now he said doctors must perform both surgical and medical abortions as well as be available for those face-to-face consultations.
The new regulations, which took effect last month, has resulted in Planned Parenthood now offering abortions only in [three] sites. Abortions had previously been available at 10 sites around the state.
Planned Parenthood is the state’s largest abortion provider. Howard said 653 of the 729 abortions in September were performed by PP.
“That means something like 400 [pregnant women] have had their life substantially disrupted,” Howard said.
Howard said some may have left the state to get care or found other doctors who perform “off-the-record” abortions. But other women, he said, are going to have to carry the pregnancy to term.
“It means that 400 real children at the end of those pregnancies are going to be born into families that may have, at very realistic levels, said that, ‘We can’t afford another mouth to feed,’ or ‘I can’t afford child care.'”
~ Howard Fischer, Yuma Sun, October 12
[Top Howard photo via cleveland.com]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
When a pregnancy is carried to term, however reluctantly, the girl or woman often comes to deeply love the child she bears. Those who felt they couldn’t afford a(nother) child may find that they live or continue to live on a shoestring budget with a child they love. There IS welfare and welfare payments do go up with the birth of another child.
denise yes i did! wow. i never ever knew that babies survived abortion. i stumbled upon jills blog and after reading about what christ hospital was doing i was in absolute shock!!!!! who knew? anyway that was neat about the dolphin therapy. im sure tims mother indeed killed herself due to her guilt. it was unresolved. anyway now i can say that i know about tim. and i noticed at the end it said~written by denise noe!!!!!! thank you. it was great to read:)
Gee, that’s terrible. 400 real children are still alive. But why can’t he just be happy that he/PP was able to kill 729 real children? (end sarcasm)
Those surplus 400 real children could mean that 400 couples wanting to adopt could have a chance to adopt a newborn baby. Win-win.
as far as what this man has to say, all of these children are real at conception.
I LOVE the poster behind him–the teenage couple where the boy looks like he’s saying, “Yes, please donate! We need to keep doing it like bunnies and eventually there’s a baby that’ll need killing!”
Bryan Howard’s legacy: sorrow over 400 babies that made it. Classy.
JB says:
October 13, 2011 at 8:35 am
Gee, that’s terrible. 400 real children are still alive. But why can’t he just be happy that he/PP was able to kill 729 real children? (end sarcasm)
Those surplus 400 real children could mean that 400 couples wanting to adopt could have a chance to adopt a newborn baby. Win-win.
(Denise) Some of the babies may be placed for adoption but the vast majority will probably be raised by their mothers. The experience of pregnancy and childbirth often creates a strong emotional bond. Many mothers will end up being grateful that they could not abort because they will so love the babies they bore.
As I pointed out, people raise children on shoestring budgets and welfare payments go up with another child. These babies may be impoverished but will not die of starvation.
@ denise, i hear you about the welfare thing. i can give you a positive example though. my girlfriend…..i will call her “jane” i met her when i was in my 20s and she was on welfare after her boyfriend killed himself. they had a few kids. she eventually got survivors benefits. she went to nursing school and got off welfare. she is a productive member of society. however many abuse the system and thats just wrong! but i dont want to be too harsh because with obama in office there are a lot of people on food stamps who never thought they would be. my husband and i struggle just like everyone else. people are losing their homes and its just so sad. many people thought obama would rescue them when in fact the opposite happened.
WHAAAAT? Did I hear you correctly, Mr Howard? I thought the standard PP mantra is that if women don’t have easy access to safe and legal abortion, they’ll be dropping dead all over the place from self-inflicted and unsafe back alley abortions, and certainly not living long enough to be carrying their “unwanted” babies to term.
Denise, you are right on. Many unwanted pregnancies end with the birth of very wanted children. Sometimes parents need time to get over the shock and warm to the idea of having a baby. Sometimes they find help that they previously didn’t know existed. Sometimes they just need to get past the physical and emotional grind of first trimester. Sometimes they decide to place their child with another loving family. There are no unwanted children, only unwanting adults.
Michelle,
He didn’t even mention the wire hangers! Wow.
Yeah, Carla, isn’t that incredible! How long until they “find” Arizona’s Becky Bell, I wonder.
And I totally agree about the time it may take for a young woman to come to terms with her pregnancy after the shock and disbelief wear off. The fear is gone once she sees those around her offer help and hope and support. She is EMPOWERED to love her baby and do everything she can for her child.
I have seen it happen with my own eyes.
I wonder if the Arizona PRCs are busier than ever. I hope more struggling women are finding them and getting the hope and support they need to embrace, protect and nurture their little ones.
I saw a client yesterday who had come to four counselling sessions with me in her first trimester, adamant she was going to have an abortion, before she found the courage to tell her parents, accepted the support we were offering, and chose life. She’s now 19 wks along, and has just found out that we’re having a girl! :)
agreed denise. did anyone ever see the show ‘ i didnt know i was pregnant’???? all of the women warmed after holding their babies. good morning carla and lol. yeah there is a book called ‘the choices we made’ its about women who have aborted. some legally and some not. whoopi goldberg claims that when she was 14 she performed an abortion on herself in central park with a coat hanger. ( and if anyone believes that i have a bridge in brooklyn to sell you.) i mean if it were that simple then i guess we dont need abortion clinics. thats why that nut attends that annual death march in dc every year waving a coat hanger.. her real name is karen johnson but maybe she gave herself the name whoopi because she likes to make lotsa whoopi? whoopi went on to have 8 legal abortions.
To mimic the mantra of all the trolling poor-choicers…
“So how many of those poor babies are YOU going to adopt, Mr. Howard? Or else you couldn’t POSSIBLY care about these poor women!!!” *gnashing teeth in background*
LOL seriously I pray he has a change of heart and does indeed adopt. What great testimonies to God’s goodness that people can come out from this industry and be renewed by Him.
I do wonder how moms do it while poor. I am separated for safety reasons and am going back to school so I can help provide for five kids. If I end up on just child support and food stamps until I finish, that will simply not be enough to pay all the bills. I have a lower-than-average mortgage – lower than many 3-bed apartments – and no debt. But with utilities, insurance, gas and medical being so expensive nowadays, one surprise can upend everything! I am nervous.
Thank goodness such things can be temporary with some persistence. Women, it is always good to have extra plans!
Luckymama, are you plugged into a good church that could help you out?
lucky mama, i will pray for something great to come your way. i pray for people on this blog. i miss erin. i miss midnight. i pray for abortionists. and people here have prayed for me,and i thank all of you. i stated on this blog that i hated casey anthony. i asked god to take the hate away and he did. hate is an emotion that doesnt hurt anyone but us. prayer works!
@Luckymama, I am praying for you. Remember, with God, all things are possible. :-)
Howard said some may have left the state to get care or found other doctors who perform “off-the-record” abortions.
Oops, looks like someone removed the “<insert coat hanger reference here>” from the anti-choice story template! Heads will roll at the Yuma Sun today…
But other women, he said, are going to have to carry the pregnancy to term. “It means that 400 real children at the end of those pregnancies are going to be born…
As opposed to all the imaginary children who would have otherwise been born? WTF?
But thank you, Mr. Howard; you’ve further encouraged me to go pray at Camelback Family Planning this afternoon, and to donate to 1st Way after I get paid next week.
Luckymamma, I admire your tenacity and I will be praying for you too. I wish I could win the Powerball, I would set aside a fund for grants to help women just like you. Don’t be too embarrassed to ask for help when you need it.
About those 400 kids — anybody ever hear of Adoption??
Luckymama, you can do it. I was 19 when I gave birth to my daughter. I was alone with no support, not from the father or my own mother. Things worked out. I managed to finish my bachelor’s degree and went on to complete my master’s.
Look for all the help you can. Get a work-study at the school you are attending, if you can, and don’t be ashamed of your situation. You would be amazed at how many people are willing to offer help in small and large ways. They may also know about other support programs you may not have heard of. I once had a conflict with a class I was taking and child care. I found out after I had registered for class that I had no babysitter available at that time. I went to the instructor and explained my situation and how frustrated I was. Her daughter was in need of community service hours for her youth group and we worked out a solution where the instructor’s daughter watched my daughter twice a week while I attended class, and she earned her community service credit for it and it didn’t cost me anything.
Also, reach out and find other single moms near you. I don’t know how I would have survived without the support and friendship I found. Women who I never would have met or befriended otherwise became my closest friends. We watched each others kids, shared meals with our families and cried on each others shoulders.
Good luck!
I have read the comments of Planned Parenthood of Arizona President Bryan Howard. He openly expresses a brazen abortion is good philosophy. I cannot help but think of Nazi Germany and their riddance of Jews and other “undesirable” persons who did not fit into their utopian scheme. And of Atheistic Communism that has imprisoned or killed millions of Christians and persons with financial capital because they interferred with their mad revoluntionary communist ideas. Or of kings and queens or other persons of power who through history that have eliminated other people who stood in the way of their power, greed and pleasure.
I have also read and appreciated the comments (nearly all of women on this particular post) who have accepted life, its responsibilities and need for nurture, even when it came about as the result of fornication or unwise choices.
You can think of me as a “fornicator” or “unwise,” Raymond, but I prefer “Mom.”
If I could go back in time I wouldn’t change a thing. :)
i had 3 kids out ofc fornication and 1 from marriage. its okay because i admit it. fornication is like gay marriage. its an abomination!
“It means that 400 real children at the end of those pregnancies are going to be born into families that may have, at very realistic levels, said that, ‘We can’t afford another mouth to feed,’ or ‘I can’t afford child care.’”
To lament that 400 children were born instead of being killed in the womb really illustrates how twisted and evil the pro-abortion mindset is. And this viewpoint is very common among extreme pro-aborts.
Also, Howard’s words were carefully chosen as sort of a call to arms to all of the pro-abortion robots in order to alert them to the terrible “consequences” of abortion restrictions. He wants to appeal to those all those pro-abortion democrats who think it is immoral to allow “unwanted” children to be born and also to all of the pro-abortion republicans and libertarians who don’t want to pay for all of those “welfare babies” that will inevitably result.
Mr. Howard’s comments expose Planned Parenthood’s lies about wanting to reduce the number of abortions. When the numbers go down, all he can do is complain about it. I guess it is because PP’s usual solution of “more birth control” had nothing to do with it!
heather says:
October 13, 2011 at 10:04 am
whoopi goldberg claims that when she was 14 she performed an abortion on herself in central park with a coat hanger. ( and if anyone believes that i have a bridge in brooklyn to sell you.) i mean if it were that simple then i guess we dont need abortion clinics. thats why that nut attends that annual death march in dc every year waving a coat hanger.. her real name is karen johnson but maybe she gave herself the name whoopi because she likes to make lotsa whoopi? whoopi went on to have 8 legal abortions.
(Denise) Heather, I don’t see any reason to doubt that Whoopi aborted herself with a coat hanger when she was 14. It’s true that this method will usually: 1) fail to dislodge the embryo or fetus or 2) damage the aborter, killing her or rendering her sterile. However, it is certainly POSSIBLE that it would dislodge the embryo or fetus without killing or irreparably harming the pregnant female.
I know Whoopi had subsequent legal abortions but didn’t know it was so many. Repeat aborters always make me wonder if they were conscientiously using contraceptives with high effectiveness.
I wonder about other things as well.
eh denise i think we may have to agree to disagree here. i just cant see how that could be true. she was 14 and she was in central park yet she didnt require any medical attention after that? how would a 14 year old head home after sticking a hanger through a closed cervix and scraping the baby out of her womb. i cant buy it. there was a very odd case here where a young african american girl got pregnant. she and her boyfriend were like 13 and 15. the boy told his grandmother so she told the girl to get up on a table and grandma took a sharp object and attempted to abort her. she began to bleed and had intense pain. she was taken to rainbow babies and childrens hospital where she was treated and the abortion was completed.
MMhhmm … and blessed are those “400 real children” who actually get to live and can very easily be placed into a loving home with adoptive parents who will love them no matter what! And that includes the ones that have disabilities! So disturbed by the lies and even more so by the people that believe them. Praying always for the poor, innocent, most defenseless human life that our society is not protecting.
I can’t get over his last line “…we can’t afford child care”. Uh..yea.. “we can’t afford child care, so we’ll just KILL the child!”
I know women/girls in crisis pregnancy situations have a lot on their minds, but I don’t think they have abortions JUST because they can’t afford child care, Mr. Howard.
The pro-abort mind-set never ceases to amaze me!
its like saying if you cant afford gas just get rid of your car or smash it wigh a baseball bat.
Pamela says:
October 13, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I can’t get over his last line “…we can’t afford child care”. Uh..yea.. “we can’t afford child care, so we’ll just KILL the child!” I know women/girls in crisis pregnancy situations have a lot on their minds, but I don’t think they have abortions JUST because they can’t afford child care, Mr. Howard.The pro-abort mind-set never ceases to amaze me!
(Denise) I believe he was talking off the top of his head. I doubt if “we can’t afford child care” even figures into abortions that occur in the real world.
“Can’t afford child care” means the mother is a stay-at-home-mom whether supported by a husband or other family member or supported by the government through welfare.
heather says:
October 13, 2011 at 3:34 pm
eh denise i think we may have to agree to disagree here. i just cant see how that could be true. she was 14 and she was in central park yet she didnt require any medical attention after that? how would a 14 year old head home after sticking a hanger through a closed cervix and scraping the baby out of her womb. i cant buy it
(Denise) Perhaps Whoopi wasn’t really pregnant. She might have thought she was pregnant and stuck the coat hanger up herself.
I found the story believable because sticking something up yourself sounds exactly like what a teen girl might do. However, you are right that a teen girl doing this would usually have complications and generally severe complications. If she doesn’t get killed, a lot of times she is left sterile by the damage to the womb.
Perhaps it’s mildly ironic that an actress who has had multiple abortions starred in a fine movie, “Sister Act,” that, as critic Michael Medved comments, “Takes an affectionate look at the Catholic Church.” The movie doesn’t lampoon the nuns at all and is respectful of them and their beliefs even as it is funny. I also thought Whoopi turned in a wonderful performance.
You can think of me as a “fornicator” or “unwise,” Raymond, but I prefer “Mom.”
If I could go back in time I wouldn’t change a thing.
OMG!!!! LEN!!! I LOVE YOU! BEST QUOTE EVAR!!!! *HEARTS AT YOU PROFUSELY*
GETREAL says:
October 13, 2011 at 4:01 pm
MMhhmm … and blessed are those “400 real children” who actually get to live and can very easily be placed into a loving home with adoptive parents who will love them no matter what!
(Denise) While placing for adoption is always a possibility, it is also unlikely. Very few females are going to carry to term and place for adoption. The vast majority who give birth will raise their babies.
These points have already been raised above but they are so glaringly obvious:
– 400 REAL children as opposed to the PRETEND unborn ones?
– Isn’t PP supposed to champion the reduction of abortions?
Really, Mr Howard? On so many levels, give humanity a break!
I read somewhere that if abortion were outlawed, about 11 percent of those babies would be available for adoption.
well denise, i loved whoopi in ghost!
well denise i will just let it be. it just doesnt pass the smell test. had she used a poison douche or something then i might believe it but she never even required antibiotics or any medical care. marot kidder had an illegal abortion with lyslol sprayed into her body. she also suffered a nervous breakdown later in life as people found her cowering in a wood pile in their yard.
Or maybe 400 people waiting desperately to adopt will have their dreams come true. Gasp!!!! God forbid that a woman should have adequate pre-op and consultation with a phusician prior to a medical procedure that could result in infections and sterility.
Denise Noe says:
October 13, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Pamela says:
October 13, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I can’t get over his last line “…we can’t afford child care”. Uh..yea.. “we can’t afford child care, so we’ll just KILL the child!” I know women/girls in crisis pregnancy situations have a lot on their minds, but I don’t think they have abortions JUST because they can’t afford child care, Mr. Howard.The pro-abort mind-set never ceases to amaze me!
(Denise) I believe he was talking off the top of his head. I doubt if “we can’t afford child care” even figures into abortions that occur in the real world.
“Can’t afford child care” means the mother is a stay-at-home-mom whether supported by a husband or other family member or supported by the government through welfare.
_______________________
Yes, Denise, I realize he was just talking off the top of his head…that was kinda my point.
I am a ‘stay-at-home’ mother, not because we “can’t afford childcare”, but because I WANT to be with my child, even though we could use the extra money. I was a child-care provider for 24 years (up until I was pregnant with our daughter). I know what mothers miss when they’re at work. My mother worked from the time I was a year old, my husband’s mother worked most of his childhood, so it was important to us that I get to be there for OUR child.
I read somewhere that if abortion were outlawed, about 11 percent of those babies would be available for adoption.
And we know this how, exactly?
I wonder what all the people that perform abortions, promote it, and have one performed on them, will have to say when they have to answer to God, on their Judgement Day. “I was playing Your roll God, You’re creating too many poor people that the government has to pay for, I couldn’t possibly have afforded my child, You understand, right God?”
Who are we to play God and decide if an unborn born child will live or not! God is The One who instills the Holy Spirit into every conception, then people want to kill His precious gift, because they don’t want to take responsibility for their actions. It’s like there’s no such thing as morals, values, self control, and responsibility anymore!
God has a plan and purpose for every conception made including those already aborted or miscarried. But there is no excuse, what so ever, that justifies a single abortion.
You never know if you’re aborting another Einstein, Picasso, or Beethoven. Do you want to go to your Judgement Day and find out you did?
“That means something like 400 [pregnant women] have had their life substantially disrupted’, Howard said.
But not as substantially disrupted as their children’s lives would have been, you knucklehead!
“That means something like 400 [pregnant women] have had their life substantially disrupted,” Howard said.
Its less of a disruption in a woman’s life to carry her child to term, than have an abortion, and have to deal with that the rest of their lives. So a woman’s waistline expands, and she gets to have a baby naturally. Her breast tissue matures, so she doesn’t have an elevated risk of breast cancer from medically halting a pregnancy in progress. Is it really a disruption to be in a hospital for 2 days having a baby? She can give the child to those childless waiting to adopt, and for the rest of her life know she loved her child to give life, and what a gift she gave to a couple. Steve Jobs was placed for adoption. What would this world be like if he was aborted???
Lightning strikes twice at the same time! :)
Why is everyone assuming that these 400 babies will all be poor or on welfare? The vast majority of abortions are performed on average middle-class girls/women who *elect* to have an abortion as a convenience (not ready to be a mom, still in school, will take their career off-track, their boyfriend doesn’t want it, too young, too old, etc etc).
Also, it amazes me that no one seems to point out to *pro-choice* people that they (most likely) had made choices all along (to sneak out, to plan the date, to hook up, to shack up, to be alone together, to make out, to undress, to get into bed/on the couch/on the floor/in the back seat, etc etc) that to call it all a mistake (like getting gum in your hair or getting the answers wrong on a test) is ludicrous. I am all for being allowed to make personal choices (let’s take responsibility here) as long as it doesn’t infringe on the personal choices of others – like being allowed to *have* a choice: to live!
Pamela says:
October 13, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Denise Noe says:October 13, 2011 at 5:47 pmPamela says:October 13, 2011 at 5:15 pmI can’t get over his last line “…we can’t afford child care”. Uh..yea.. “we can’t afford child care, so we’ll just KILL the child!” I know women/girls in crisis pregnancy situations have a lot on their minds, but I don’t think they have abortions JUST because they can’t afford child care, Mr. Howard.The pro-abort mind-set never ceases to amaze me!(Denise) I believe he was talking off the top of his head. I doubt if “we can’t afford child care” even figures into abortions that occur in the real world.“Can’t afford child care” means the mother is a stay-at-home-mom whether supported by a husband or other family member or supported by the government through welfare._______________________Yes, Denise, I realize he was just talking off the top of his head…that was kinda my point.I am a ‘stay-at-home’ mother, not because we “can’t afford childcare”, but because I WANT to be with my child, even though we could use the extra money. I was a child-care provider for 24 years (up until I was pregnant with our daughter). I know what mothers miss when they’re at work. My mother worked from the time I was a year old, my husband’s mother worked most of his childhood, so it was important to us that I get to be there for OUR child.
(Denise) I’m sorry, Pamela. My statement may have made it sound like that’s the ONLY reason a woman stays home with her children and I know that it is NOT. I know many mothers want to be with their children full-time. My point was just that if someone can’t afford child care, that would ALSO be a reason to stay home full-time. I doubt that it is a motive for women to abort.
and anne dont forget these mega rich hollywood stars who wont see a day on welfare in their life. madonna,cher,brittney spears,susan sarandon,whoopi goldberg,kathy najimy,amy brenneman…….and many many more have had abortions. yeah sure they would have been in poverty:/
actress anne archer attends the annual death march in dc. she made a tearful speech at the event. (anne had an abortion at 18 in mexico) she cried “i never could have lived my dream of being an actress if i had not had my abortion.”
heather says:
October 14, 2011 at 7:52 am
actress anne archer attends the annual death march in dc. she made a tearful speech at the event. (anne had an abortion at 18 in mexico) she cried “i never could have lived my dream of being an actress if i had not had my abortion.”
(Denise) Jayne Mansfield lived out her dream of being an actress. She never had an abortion. All 5 of her pregnancies were carried to term and the babies were healthy. She never had a miscarriage nor did she place a baby for adoption. Asked what her favorite title was, the world famous sexbomb answered, “I like to be called mother.”
hi denise. youre right. someone else on this thread told me that jane was very much against abortion. i guess she must have been one to know that one can have both! anne archer really was great in Fatal Attraction! wow what a great movie! however she could have placed the baby for adoption and become an actress anyway. she also could have chosen not to have sex with her boyfriend and she wouldnt have had to make that choice.
Lori Alayne Weber Miller says:
October 13, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Or maybe 400 people waiting desperately to adopt will have their dreams come true.
(Denise) This is extremely unlikely. The simple fact is that very few girls and women carry for 9 months and, after giving birth, give the baby to someone else to raise. Yes, there are those who do this but it is rare.
and i was reading that kathy najimy drags her young daughter along to the death march in dc every year. she commented “we are fighting to save lives. thats why we are here.” “we dont want want women to die when we can keep a simple procedure legal.” “i want my daughter to also have that choice should she need it.” aaaagh…so blind!
heather says:
October 14, 2011 at 10:59 am
hi denise. youre right. someone else on this thread told me that jane was very much against abortion.
(Denise) I think that was me. I have an essay at Men’s News Daily called “Are Abortion Foes Sexually Repressed?” in which I discuss Jayne Mansfield’s strong opposition to abortion.
heather says:
October 14, 2011 at 11:49 am
and i was reading that kathy najimy drags her young daughter along to the death march in dc every year. she commented “we are fighting to save lives. thats why we are here.” “we dont want want women to die when we can keep a simple procedure legal.” “i want my daughter to also have that choice should she need it.” aaaagh…so blind!
(Denise) This IS the motivation of those believing in legal abortion. They believe that females who can’t tolerate remaining pregnant and giving birth will INEVITABLY abort and want this to be as safe for the pregnant female as possible.
OTOH, abortion criminalization advocates believe outlawing it leads to an attitude of pregnancy acceptance.
Oh man, I had a dream last night that I had two abortions, and with the last one, I was visitng Quebec Canada and had it done at a private clinic there, I wasn’t sure but went through with it anyways and had twilight sedation, it was a suction aspiration or D&C, and I was 7-9 weeks along, I asked to see the remains afterword & kept the ultrasound pic. While sitting at a cafe still in Canada, I told my husband I was pregnant, but miscarried & show him the ultrasound photo, but he didn’t seem all that interested or seem to care. I recovered with some soreness, but otherwise without complications & felt some loss, but relieved.
I was reading this blog before I went to bed last night & I think that factors into it, but sub-contiously also I know that my husband & I are not in the ideal situation to have kids right now (both financially & relationship-wise), & I think that factored into my dream as well.
Rachel- I understand your situation. It is a difficult one. There is that worry can I afford a baby, will my baby have to miss out on things because I don’t have the money? Will this put a strain on already rocky relationship? But you know what being poor and coming from a split home doesn’t matter as much as you’d think. It’s really about love, being open to love and doing what love compells you to do. I had a litle girl when I was 19 and I didn’t find out I was pregnant until I had broken up with her father. I was poor I was alone, but some how we made it. I don’t want to be cheesy but that is the power of love. It’s true.
I also want to let you know that you if you need help there are resources out there (Crisis Pregnancy Centers and state agencies). And if you need anything just let me know. I would be more than happy to help in anyway that I can. I don’t want you to feel that you should have to choose between aborting you child and money and your relationship. There has to be some better optoins for you and I would love (as I am sure many women on here wold too) help you find them and attain them. Please let me know if there is anything that you need.
Brana,
Thank you for your thoughts. We’re not pregnant (although my maternal instincts are screaming right now), I just think my sub-conscious was just trying to work through my feelings. I do indeed have concerns about about our rocky relationship, which we’re both in counseling as well as seeing a marriage counselor together. Finances are a lesser concern, we sometimes live check to check & have no savings. However, I am aware of our local pregnancy care center as well as a wonderful Christian charity in our area, and will utilitize these resources if need be when the time comes. I just don’t know that we’re in the best position to have a child right now, although I soo badly want to have one with him (you know, hopes & dreams & all that).
Rachael C. says:
October 14, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Brana,Thank you for your thoughts. We’re not pregnant (although my maternal instincts are screaming right now), I just think my sub-conscious was just trying to work through my feelings.
(Denise) Are you using the most effective contraceptive you can?
If using NFP, are you careful in following it?
Have you considered limiting your intimate life to acts that can’t result in pregnancy?
heather says:
October 14, 2011 at 11:49 am
and i was reading that kathy najimy drags her young daughter along to the death march in dc every year. she commented “we are fighting to save lives.
(Denise) Heather, people who want abortion criminalized need to understand the MOTIVES of those who want it legal. Those motives ARE to “save lives.” Yes, that rings hollow in your ears but it is true. They believe that if females feel “trapped” by pregnancy, they will — AUTOMATICALLY AND INEVITABLY — seek to expel the embryo or fetus from their bodies. The intense experience, discomforts, pains, and dangers of pregnancy mean that — when the pregnancy is not wanted — it is experienced as intolerable. Abortion legalizers believe that abortion is therefore inevitable. Thus, the unborn are DOOMED by the girl or woman’s psychological inability to carry to term. The embryo or fetus can’t survive without the carrier but the female can easily survive with the “cargo.” They believe that the one that can be saved — the girl or woman — should be saved by making abortion as safe FOR HER as it can possibly be.
Of course, abortion criminalizers don’t agree with this reasoning. They believe that the vast majority of girls and women will, if abortion is unlawful, accept the pregnancy and allow a family to begin or grow. Thus, the lives of the unborn are saved because the law acts as a teacher.
I also should add something about stay-at-home-moms who are supported primarily by welfare. That is usually not their SOLE support. They stay home with kids and the government sends a check but in addition to caring for their children they may have earned income through such activities as babysitting, taking in ironing, and other work.
However many babies are placed for adoption, sometimes it seems like the choice of adoption doesn’t seem to get as much respect and/or be understood as much as it could be I think.
P.S. Only one of Jayne Mansfield’s children, the first, was born before she was famous and wealthy though, and I heard Jayne, even though she was unwed at the time and only 16, planned her. (and it was not Mariska Hargitay btw, this was an older daughter)
Tom Hanks’ oldest child was born when he was 21 and still in college, and though I don’t know what Tom thinks about abortion, it would have been available to him and his girlfriend, who later became his first wife, if they had chosen it because this was in 1977, and look what happened to HIM!
Kel, that figure came from a National Committee for Adoption study.
Congratulations, Anne Archer, you just made my boycott list! While I know Hollywood is full of abortion supporters and actresses who have quietly had abortions, I will NOT go see a movie or watch a tv series starring an actress who’s had an abortion(s) and publicly states that she does not regret it.
I’ve not been quite that bothered by many past problems of famous people such as alcohol and drug abuse,pornography, cheating on spouses,etc but having an abortion and practically bragging about it, that’s where I draw the line. Well, that and domestic/child abuse.
Josie K. says:
October 17, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Congratulations, Anne Archer, you just made my boycott list! While I know Hollywood is full of abortion supporters and actresses who have quietly had abortions, I will NOT go see a movie or watch a tv series starring an actress who’s had an abortion(s) and publicly states that she does not regret it.I’ve not been quite that bothered by many past problems of famous people such as alcohol and drug abuse,pornography, cheating on spouses,etc but having an abortion and practically bragging about it, that’s where I draw the line. Well, that and domestic/child abuse.
(Denise) Does this mean you never watch old movies if Joan Crawford is in them? Two of her adopted children maintain they were abused by her while the other two strongly state that she was a good mother. Both sets of kids may be telling the truth: a parent may be good to some kids and bad to others.
Those who want to encourage adoption might consider the following:
1) Funding research into ways to transplant an embryo/fetus from one womb to another.
2) Starting a special adoption arrangement in which birthmothers are hired as nannies and babysitters by adopting families. The birthmother would not be “Mom” but she would see and care for the child on a fairly regular basis. Knowing they would act as paid caregivers for their children might make relinquishment more attractive.
I’ve never seen a movie with Joan Crawford in it, and no, I have no desire to see one.