Phill Kline, the man who knows too much, and how he can be saved from martyrdom
We hear about corrupt politics, kangaroo courts, crime cover-ups, and the silencing of Silkwood-type whistleblowers.
In these days of the Internet, new media, and instant exposure, one might think such underhanded tactics would almost be too hard to pull off, particularly on a large scale.
But in Kansas the last vestiges of the corrupt pro-abortion political, legal, and journalistic systems are brazenly at work trying to destroy pro-lifer Phill Kline, in order to protect the abortion industry.
Phill Kline is trailblazer, the first prosecutor in the country to charge Planned Parenthood with criminal wrong-doing and to obtain highly incriminating (and redacted) medical records to prove his case.
Trailblazers venture into the dangerous unknown. It is never as hard for those following in the footsteps of trailblazers, because we learn from their experiences.
We learned from Kline’s investigations of Planned Parenthood and George Tiller that the abortion industry indeed engages in the worst kind of criminal conduct, up to and including covering up child rape.
And we learned from Kline’s investigations just how far the abortion industry and its legion of embedded allies will go to cover that conduct up. This was an eye-opener for me. If pro-abortion tentacles run so deep and wide in Kansas, how much deeper and wider do they run in Washington, D.C.?
But we are also emboldened by trailblazers. Phill Kline will be credited with launching a thousand ships, numerous and growing nationwide efforts to investigate the abortion behemoth known as Planned Parenthood.
Without a doubt Phill Kline will someday be vindicated. He is a hero.
But living through the pro-abortion attempts to destroy him is another matter. The other side may be too afraid to literally take Kline out, but they are trying to do everything but: destroy his reputation, both personally and professionally, destroy his livelihood, and destroy him financially.
All this to frighten, distract, discredit, and silence Phill Kline, with the end game of killing his investigations.
It is easy for me to say it won’t work. But I’m not Phill Kline. I don’t have to walk in his shoes, live his life that already owes $200,000 in legal fees – with the other side pushing for more sanctions – and face an uncertain professional future.
Jack Cashill wrote a good piece on October 14, “Has bleeding Kansas begun to heal?” Cashill called on new Kansas pro-life Gov. Sam Brownback (pictured right, and who replaced pro-abort Kathleen Sebelius) to help Phill Kline:
To begin, Gov. Brownback has to address the Tiller legacy publicly and offer an official state apology to Phill Kline.
Then Brownback should appoint a South Africa-style Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Too much evil has gone unaddressed for far too long.
Additionally Brownback should forgive Kline’s legal debt – incurred in his capacity as an elected official of the State of Kansas.
And when the corrupt Kansas Supreme Court follows through with its plan to disbar Phill Kline, Brownback should pardon Kline and reinstate his law license.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I just ask everyone for prayers for this man. May he stand tall and firm, on the rock of God and His truth.
Joan had a good comment on the Kline thread from 5 days ago:
Oh, what a martyr. Your write-up curiously omits the following things: 1. any substantive rebuttal of the things he was accused and found guilty of doing by the disciplinary panel, 2. the fact that he allowed his Kansas law license to lapse and is now a “professor” at Liberty University. The message is clear: the ends always justify the means when it’s for the “cause”, ethics and professional standards be damned.
The ends justify the means??
You mean like when you kill your child so you can have an “easier” life? Like that??
You people are un. frickin. believable.
Doug, Joan, I and others have posted rebuttals ad nauseum to the corrupt claims against Kline. Do a search of “Phill Kline” on my site.
The truth will out.
Yeah, I’m pullin’ out the Shakespeare today, peeps.
Gotta love this guy! He has guts! To stand up against such a huge and well-connected enemy risking all you have?! WOW! The story is quite simple though – he found evidence of PP doing illegal things, in return PP runs a campaign to discredit him, instead of pulling out the weeds in threir own garden. Nothing new. Will pray for him.
From the October 14 Lifenews.com story on Phill Kline:
Kathy Ostrowski of Kansans for Life responded to the panel’s decision saying it is part of an attack on Kline similar to when “abortion clinics and counselors had sued then-Attorney General Phill Kline for issuing an opinion that clinics needed to report all pregnant minors to law enforcement agencies.”
“Under child protective law, all physicians, counselors & teachers were required to report children injured (now the word is “harmed”) by physical, mental, or emotional abuse or neglect, or sexual abuse,’” she explained. “Kline was aiming at prosecuting unreported statutory rape by adult predators, not ‘Romeo-Juliet’ pregnancy situation. For example during 2002-2003, 168 underage pregnant girls were aborted in Kansas but abortion clinics only reported two.”
I have not seen a single statement from any “pro-choicer” expressing concern over what might have happened to those 166 minors who had abortions in Kansas with no abuse reports filed. Were they returned to their abusers?
“Pro-choicers” across the nation claimed concern for women’s “privacy,” even when all of the medical records were redacted (as they are in any other criminal investigation). Their agenda was, and still is, to stick it to Phill Kline, who had the nerve to investigate their sacred cow of abortion.
Jeanne, I wondered thae same thing myself. If you are really concerned about women’s (in this case, girls’) health, wouldn’t you want PP to be persecuted within every inch of the law?
No. Because proaborts want abortion, wherever and whenever.
2 out of 168. Wow. Where are the women crying out for justice?? The outrage?
*crickets*
Jeanne: I have not seen a single statement from any “pro-choicer” expressing concern over what might have happened to those 166 minors who had abortions in Kansas with no abuse reports filed. Were they returned to their abusers?
Jeanne, if it’s a pregnant 15 year old girl and a 15 year old guy, that’s one thing. If it’s a daughter and her father, or a 14 year old and a 40 year old, for example, then it’s another – and if PP is supposed to report those, then it’s wrong if it wasn’t reported.
Courtnay: The truth will out. Yeah, I’m pullin’ out the Shakespeare today, peeps.
:) Courtnay, we disagree on some things, but that made me smile.
Doug, Joan, I and others have posted rebuttals ad nauseum to the corrupt claims against Kline. Do a search of “Phill Kline” on my site.
Jill, to “search” you enter stuff in the little box at the very top of the page, right? That brings up past threads. I don’t things have changed since way back when…
This is not to say that PP did no wrong. Yet that’s a separate question from whether or not Kline did. As I recall, Kline’s chief deputy agreed that they had not looked at any other of the entities that were supposed to report underage pregnancies. Kline was looking to make trouble for PP.
Didn’t Kline subpoena records for women – the great majority of which were over the age of consent? As I remember, that’s what really got Kline in trouble – it was a clear misuse of his office, and even though Kansas is heavily Republican most people weren’t going to go for that, so he was out.
I believe that all healthcare professionals are mandatory reporters, so if they had any indication of abuse they are required by law to report it. I don’t know how many of these minors were in consensual relationships, and how many were in statutory rape situations, but it should be looked into.
Also, it wouldn’t be hard for a minor to lie about the father’s age. One of the reasons parental notification is so important is so parents can be aware of the fact their daughter is pregnant, and they can find out how that came about.
Jack, if the father is the pregnant girl’s father, do you support judicial bypass or some other method that can give protection from the father/parents in such cases?
@ Doug: Tomorrow, Dante.
How does judicial bypass protect the girl impregnated by her father? It allows the girl to get an abortion without notifying her parents, but does it guarantee that the abuse is reported and charges are filed?
Courtnay, “There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery.”
— Dante Aligheri
Lrning: How does judicial bypass protect the girl impregnated by her father? It allows the girl to get an abortion without notifying her parents, but does it guarantee that the abuse is reported and charges are filed?
The father may not know of the pregnancy. Bypass may prevent further abuse, the girl getting kicked out of the house, etc. The same could hold true for girls who don’t want an abortion, while the father/parents would.
No such thing as a consensual sexual relationship with minors involved.
X, I meant like two sixteen year olds sleeping together.
Doug, how will letting a minor get an abortion and go back to her abuser HELPING HER?? Seriously, this might be the only time an abused girl gets a chance to reach out for help, and you think it’s ok to hide it if she asks? An abused child doesn’t need any help hiding the abuse, believe me. They need help coming forward.
Doug says: The father may not know of the pregnancy. Bypass may prevent further abuse, the girl getting kicked out of the house, etc.
How does allowing a minor to get an abortion without telling her parents prevent her father from continuing to sexually abuse her? Judicial bypass cases have to go before a judge. Does it require that abuse is reported and charges are filed? Getting a girl removed from the home where her father is sexually abusing her sounds like a good thing to me. How does allowing her to get the abortion and sending her back home to her abuser help her?
Doug says: The same could hold true for girls who don’t want an abortion, while the father/parents would.
The same what could hold true? The judicial bypass procedure is intended to circumvent parental consent/notification requirements for abortion. If a girl is pregnant and doesn’t want her parents to force her to have an abortion, I don’t think judicial bypass applies.
“X, I meant like two sixteen year olds sleeping together.”
Still not possible, imho. Kids don’t have the faculties required to consent to such activities. That’s why they’re kids and not adults.
I dunno, they might not be able to make as good decisions as adults would, but I don’t think, for most normal relationships, calling them nonconsensual isn’t really applicable. I think teens should be strongly encouraged to wait, though.
Thinking back about when I was 16, any sort of sexual relationship I would’ve had, even if I would’ve thought that I knew what it was and what it entailed, would’ve been rape. That’s all there is to it. I mean…I didn’t even really have that great a grasp on that kind of thing when I was 18…
Well, if it’s rape, then should both the girl and guy be charged for it? Just the male? I mean, my wife and I got together when we were just barely eighteen, if it had been a few months earlier should I have been arrested for sleeping with her? I don’t understand the reasoning here, not trying to be a jerk but it doesn’t make any sense to me. I don’t think teens are ready for sex, and I think that they are likely to do themselves damage if they do have sex, but rape isn’t a word that should be used to describe teen sexuality in most cases. Maybe in yours, if you feel that you weren’t capable of consenting, but not always.
We learned from Kline’s investigations of Planned Parenthood and George Tiller that the abortion industry indeed engages in the worst kind of criminal conduct, up to and including covering up child rape.
We didn’t learn that, really. Kline did not attempt to charge either Dr. Tiller or Planned Parenthood with “covering up child rape.” He could not be bothered to cooperate with the district attorney who attempted to investigate the reporting of abortions performed on minors 15 and under at Dr. Tiller’s clinic, but the patient files that he had previously submitted to the court included reports to the appropriate authorities in all cases. The DA independently confirmed that those reports had been made.
http://www.sedgwickcounty.org/da/criminal_media/2007/final%20jan%2010%20tiller%20media%20release.pdf
well, Jack, you bring up an interesting point. It honestly depends on the person. I had an ex who had his first sexual contact around age 12. It was with his best friend’s sister. She was 13 or 14, and initiated the contact. That was rape, imo. He was raped/molested as a child (by a 14 year old), and it’s caused a lot of problems for him his entire life. They were both minors, but I think that girl should’ve been charged.
Now, as a consequence of that, he was always very sexually aggressive from an early age. Me meeting him when he was 17, I was 19…and he was more “worldly” by far than I at that age.
This is kind of a tangent, but, I think we need to find whoever molested his best friend’s sister (because I’m sure that’s what originated this behavior that’s been passed around) and cut his b@llz off/sew her vagina shut.
See, that’s what I am saying. If something is coercive or aggressive, it’s damaging and abusive no matter the ages involved. The younger you are, the more vulnerable you are to being trapped by that stuff, hence consent laws. It depends on the person. My first girlfriend was twenty when I was fifteen, I find it kinda disturbing now but didn’t at the time. It didn’t cause me much damage in any case, and wasn’t coercive. It sounds like, even with less of an age difference, your ex was damaged greatly and abused. I think it depends on the situation.
I will assist you in taking care of any molesters you come across, it disgusts me.
The law is the law when it comes to age of consent, statutory rape, and mandatory reporting.
Jack: Doug, how will letting a minor get an abortion and go back to her abuser HELPING HER?? Seriously, this might be the only time an abused girl gets a chance to reach out for help, and you think it’s ok to hide it if she asks? An abused child doesn’t need any help hiding the abuse, believe me. They need help coming forward.
Jack, yes, agreed – if the girl’s father is the abuser himself, then her going back (whether or not there is judicial bypass) would not be good.
“The father may not know of the pregnancy. Bypass may prevent further abuse, the girl getting kicked out of the house, etc.”
Lrning: How does allowing a minor to get an abortion without telling her parents prevent her father from continuing to sexually abuse her? Judicial bypass cases have to go before a judge. Does it require that abuse is reported and charges are filed? Getting a girl removed from the home where her father is sexually abusing her sounds like a good thing to me. How does allowing her to get the abortion and sending her back home to her abuser help her?
You’re right, Lrning – unless the father or the girl is removed from the family, things certainly wouldn’t necessarily get better. I don’t know if the states have judicial bypass leading directly to reporting and charges being filed.
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“The same could hold true for girls who don’t want an abortion, while the father/parents would. ”
The same what could hold true? The judicial bypass procedure is intended to circumvent parental consent/notification requirements for abortion. If a girl is pregnant and doesn’t want her parents to force her to have an abortion, I don’t think judicial bypass applies.
Yeah, you’re right again. I must have been tired yesterday. Bypass has nothing to do with the situation where the girl does not want an abortion but her parents do.
A huge reason why judicual bypass is questionable, even in cases of incest, is it assumes both parents are aware of what is going on. While, yes, sometimes the mom is aware of the rape of her daughter by the father/step father/live in boyfriend, frequently they aren’t. The knowledge of a pregnancy would certainly allow her some much-needed information to determine what is going on and take whatever actions necessary to keep her children safe. Judicial bypass, which is frequently rubber stamped and usually does *not* require any sort of investigation or reporting, does *nothing* to help victims of any sort of abuse. It only allows scared kids who should be talking to parent(s) about their life to hide a dangerous and life changing decision from the people who are most pivital to such decision in a child’s life.
When there is a *rare* situation where a child is subjected to such abuse or threat of abuse that telling her parents of a pregnancy really would indanger her life (the stated purpose of judicial bypass), then the child doesn’t belong in the home anyway. If a child comes before a judge and says ‘i can’t inform/get consent from my parents because if I do my life will be in danger’ the child should immediately be taken into protective custody and a CPS investigation should immediately begin, which would include informing the parents of the charges (abuse) against them and how those charges were brought to CPS attention (child stated before a judge she fears for her life). If the investigation turns up proof of abuse, then the girl should be removed from the home like any other abuse victim. If it is unsubstantiated, then the judicial bypass should be refused and she should be sent back to her parents who are her rightful guardians until she comes of age. Meanwhile, any girl who seeks a judicial bypass for reasons *other* than ‘i’m in fear of my life’ (again what judicial bypass is sold to the voters as) should be rejected and told to go talk to her parents.
When is Sebelius going in front of a grand jury? or served with a subpoena either by Kansas or U.S. Congress?
If she does something wrong Jury Rigged. Not until then.
Sebelius’ earthly subpoena is the least of her worries.
A huge reason why judicual bypass is questionable, even in cases of incest, is it assumes both parents are aware of what is going on.
Good point, Jespren. And by far, most of the time it’s not going to be the girl’s father who got her pregnant, anyway.
Phill Kline is one of the most corrupt and dishonest politicians in Kansas’ history. While a State Representative, he covered up extensive evidence of wire fraud, corruption and misuse of public funds by the Kansas Technology Enterprise Corporation.
IMHO He has no business practicing law anywhere in the United States and should be disbarred for life.
IMHO He is an absolute disgrace to the good name of Kansas and should be indicted for corruption while a State Representative.
but Planned Parenthood should be totally let off the hook for what THEY did. The humbleness of your opinion is noted. It’s pretty darned humble.
No, SJ. This is classic trolling. There’s no way he’d ever be indicted — you’re trafficking in fantasy about something whose proportions you’re utterly clueless about. But you SAY that kind of thing just to impugn him, safely protected from falsifiability because no one in their right mind would ever actually move to indict him.
Seriously, that’s such classic trolling. I don’t have a term for this type, though…