(Prolifer)ations 1-17-12
by Susie Allen, host of the blog, Pro-Life in TN, and Kelli
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- Abstinence Clearinghouse discusses the release of new national sex ed guidelines, authored by the National Education Association and some other groups that may surprise parents.
- Americans United for Life’s Charmaine Yoest debates Nancy Keenan of NARAL on the Texas sonogram law. Keenan is reduced to filibustering with sound bites:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVBCIVkdLDc[/youtube]
- Big Blue Wave shares information on Franz Stangl, the head of the Nazi euthanasia program. Stangl’s justification for killing reminds BBW of the mantras those who make their living promoting and providing for abortions hide behind.
- Disgusting but true: Down on the Pharm wonders why the leftist media is mortified by the photo of US soldiers urinating on corpses in Afghanistan when this same behavior is considered acceptable as an alternative sex practice.
- Family Research Council decries the fact that Greece is on the verge of adding pedophilia to its list of disabilities, thereby qualifying pedophiles for government-funded disability pay. Say “hello” to the slippery slope.
- Live Action has an interesting survey showing that the main population “served” by Planned Parenthood actually objects to PP’s federal funding:
The question was simple: “Should Tax Dollars for Family Planning Go To Organizations that Perform Abortions?” …
[N]amely those under the age of 35, blacks, and lower-income people—are the least likely to support their government funding.
Jan.17, 2012 3:30 pm |
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This is fantastic. But is it okay for me to laugh at nancy Keenan. She said that: “Politicians are forcing women to have ultrasound.” What a lie!
I loved this debate. Charmaine was great, she made Nancy seem like a fool…But Nancy really didn’t have a fighting chance to begin with!! I am sorry I can’t stop laughing at the gull of the pro-choice people!! I think this video unveils what must be at the root of the pro-choice movement: greed. Nancy was just being the paid advocate she is. Nancy seems like a smart lady and I think the fact she was “forced” (or risk losing her job) to speak the party line is going to trouble her conscience for a long time to come.
The next time I go to renew my auto licence and the person behind the counter tries to “force” me to have my eyesight tested I am going to call Nancy Keenan to help me out!!
If I choose to drive blind that should be my choice, it is my body!!
While I personally find the sexual practice mentioned to be repugnant, what is it that you don’t understand about the difference between something which takes place between consenting persons compared to between a person and a non-consenting corpse, even when it isn’t done as a sexual act?
So the abstinence clearing house doesn’t like young people learning about their own bodies, how they work and their appropriate names. Might this not help them know when someone is touching them inappropriately?
And how dreadful to teach them about the family structures that some of them may actually be a part of.
‘Radical special interest groups’ – this from the mob who bring their own radical agenda to the table.
Reality, I noticed you failed to comment on the Texas Ultrasound Law. It is legal now!!!
What comment do you want me to make about it Tyler?
“aw shucks, those pesky fundies got their law based on a crusading agenda rather than medical neccessity passed”?
I don’t have anything different to say about it from what I’ve said previously.
I still find it odd that anti-choicers demand that women choosing abortion must have something which is not totally neccessary forced upon them whilst running scared at the thought of people who suspect there may be a fetal abnormality seeking one to confirm if that is the case in case they might decide to abort.
“I still find it odd that anti-choicers demand that women choosing abortion must have something which is not totally neccessary forced upon them whilst running scared at the thought of people who suspect there may be a fetal abnormality seeking one to confirm if that is the case in case they might decide to abort.”
Wha?? Happy Hour must have been extended today.
oo….no happy hour Praxedes. According to Tyler I’m in a bad mood ;-)
Reality, you disagree with this law? But why? It is legal.
All women need to be given the proper information so they can make an informed choice.
You are for women making an informed choice aren’t you?
Yes I do disagree with it. Bad luck for me, it has passed.
If women wanted or needed a sonogram it was available to them.
‘Informed choice’ was never the intent of this law.
Reality, I guess in your reality there has never been a woman who regretted her abortion? Or a greedy abortionist who failed to propertly inform his teenage client of the science of human development, knowledge that you are so fully aware of (and proud to know I might add)?
Yep, and the passage of this law will be providential for all those mothers who won’t be told the pro-choice sales pitch and become traumatized for years to follow after making a decision based on faulty or incomplete information.. It is also a sign of providence for those unborn babies that will be saved as a result of their mothers being informed of their existence. Yeah!!!
BTW, you never did answer whether you are for informed consent or not?
I have acknowledged that there are those who have been harmed by abortion. But it certainly isn’t to the extent claimed by some. There are also those who have suffered by not being able to access abortion. But that is a ‘hidden statistic’.
“the pro-choice sales pitch and traumatized for years to come after making a decision based on faulty or incomplete information” – and what about the anti-choice sales pitch and faulty or incomplete information?
I’m amazed that people claim that pregnant women are so stupid that they aren’t aware that they have a developing fetus of the human species inside them. Women don’t abort because they don’t think its human.
Which is it, informed choice or informed consent? I’m ‘for’ both. This law certainly isn’t about consent.
It appears that Reality would rather not be shown the truth.
Just not your ‘truth’.
That debate was on repeat cycle. What I’m wondering is why Dr. Yoest forgot about the safety factor.
Because the patients are ONLY women, it’s always been OK for abortionists to shoot in the dark, miss chunks of baby and supporting tissue, leave it behind for the hospitals to clean up, attempt to abort ectopic embryos, etc.
A sonogram should be required for safety reasons as well as for informed consent.
Who has ever claimed that women are stupid? Are you saying that I have claimed this? Reality, it is not like you to distort the truth so radically.
Reality why are you acting shocked that some young women are ignorant that a fetus is a human being? In previous posts you have acknowledged that the Pro-Choice movement did engage in denying the humanity of the fetus in addition to denying the fetus’ legal personhood status. Why are you now denying this reality about the pro-abortion movement? You have acknowledged that some women do abort on the mistaken assumption that the fetus is not a human being – that is a product of conception, that it is only tissue, etc…. There have been many “choicers” who have stated as much on this very website.
Also, no woman has ever suffered from not having access to abortion.
Women suffer only when they don’t receive proper care, and abortion can never be proper care.
The Sonogram Law will help ensure that women receive proper care by providing them with valuable information.
Those who claim that women don’t know that it is a developing fetus of the human species are the ones who are holding women out as stupid.
“why are you acting shocked that some young women are ignorant that a fetus is a human being?” – what, you think some think it’s dolphin fetus or something?
“you have acknowledged that the Pro-Choice movement did engage in denying the humanity of the fetus” – no I didn’t.
“in addition to denying the fetus’ legal personhood status. ” – yes I did. They don’t have legal personhood status. Remember the votes?
“You have acknowledged that some women do abort on the mistaken assumption that the fetus is not a human being” – I certainly have not.
“Also, no woman has ever suffered from not having access to abortion” – incorrect.
“and abortion can never be proper care.” – incorrect.
“The Sonogram Law will help ensure that women receive proper care by providing them with valuable information” – they always could. This law does not have that as its intent.
Reality, don’t worry the woman’s “choice” has not been taken from her, so you still can be “happy” that some of your sisters can kill their own children.
This Law gives women information, a gift it appears that you and the Abortionists are against.
Don’t worry you will still get your blood money, it just might be a lesser amount!!!
This Law highlights that before a choice can be made the person deciding must have knowledge otherwise the person (the pregnant mother) is “deciding” based on fear, ignorance, manipulation or coercion. You don’t want a woman’s choice to be based on any of these things, do you Reality?
“This Law gives women information, a gift it appears that you and the Abortionists are against.” – and like I keep saying, they could already avail themselves of that information. That is not the intent of this law.
“Don’t worry you will still get your blood money” – oh yes, and exactly how do I get any ‘blood money’?
“You don’t want a woman’s choice to be based on any of these things, do you Reality?” – no, that’s why they’re better off at a PP than a CPC.
Reality, come on, no one can be loaded with as much crap as you are and not be on the payroll of the abortionists!!! If you are not on the payroll you are more frightening than I originally suspected.
Are you referring to the same PPs that opposed this law?!!!! Ya, that cartel seems like a nice and genuine organization?! (I am being sarcastic in the previous sentence in case you didn’t notice.) The opposition by Planned Parenthood to this law makes one wonder what information, if any, they HAVE been giving to women who come to them? Yikes!! I shudder at the thought.
Well it may shatter your little dream but I have no involvement in the abortion services field in any way.
Womens choice is what its all about, womens choice.
If you haven’t yet managed to discern why I and others are against this law then you do cause me some concern.
Those who claim that women don’t know that it is a developing fetus of the human species are the ones who are holding women out as stupid.
I’ve seen pro-choicers deny it on this very message board.