Stanek weekend question: Will the day come when politicians covering up for the abortion industry face Nuremburg-like trials?
TimesUnion.com published a shocking story January 5 alleging that the New York Democrat machine, including Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, gave late-term abortionist Steven Brigham a pass 15 years ago when investigators discovered 17 late-term frozen aborted babies in one of his New York mills.
Brigham was arraigned in Maryland yesterday morning on 10 counts of first- and second-degree murder in the deaths of viable preborn babies who were among 36 discovered in a freezer in Brigham’s Elkton, Maryland, mill.
But these weren’t the first bodies discovered by authorities in one of Brigham’s clinics. According to TimesUnion.com:
A New Jersey doctor charged with murder last week for performing several late-term abortions in Maryland had once operated an abortion clinic in Albany County at which state investigators discovered 17 frozen fetuses in 1996.
The discovery was part of a broader investigation by the New York attorney general’s office, which declined to pursue criminal charges related to allegations that late-term abortions, in violation of New York’s fetal homicide law, were being performed at the Colonie clinic then owned by Dr. Steven Chase Brigham.
Why weren’t murder charges brought against Brigham? The assistant attorney general at the time told TimesUnion.com “he encountered political pressure against the investigation from the Albany Democratic machine, including a judge who had ties to the Colonie clinic’s landlord.”
Someday a horrifying book will be written on just how far local, state, and federal Democrats went to cover malpractice, negligence, corruption, fraud, and murder on behalf of the abortion industry.
Thankfully, it appears that with the exposure of the industry’s most heinous crimes, the collusion between Democrats and the abortion industry is beginning to collapse.
The collapse will be linked back to revelations that former Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius covered up crimes committed by George Tiller and Planned Parenthood to the point of shredding documents.
Blogger Rusty Weiss at BigGovernmentcom asked, “Could hindering an investigation of Dr. Brigham make Democrats in Albany an accessory to murder?”
I wonder.
Can you foresee a day when Democrats like Sebelius, Spitzer, and even Barack Obama are brought to justice in a fashion similar to the Nuremberg Trials, when Nazi collaborators were prosecuted?
[Brigham photo via CecilWhig.com]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I can foresee a day from my house.
:)
Do I see a day when another victorious country holds military tribunals to try American citizens for abortion behavior?
No
Honestly? No.
But I believe one day, God will bring about justice for those who have been treated unjustly.
I don’t know if it will come to trials of the government officials, but I think we are starting to see them enforcing regulations and exposing the horrors that the abortionists have been committing for decades now. We need to keep working to expose the government corruption. God is winning. Fast and pray for an end to abortion soon!
Rusty Weiss said: “Could hindering an investigation of Dr. Brigham make Democrats in Albany an accessory to murder?”
Hindering an investigation? They’ve been an accessory to murder all along, and through collusion, have implicated the people of the United States in their schemes.
The media has been an accessory to murder as well by being deliberately deceptive in their portrayal of human development.
As for a trial Jill – they’ll plead insanity as self-defense.
And it would be hard to argue against that.
No. Absolutely not.
The only way abortion ends in America is a massive scale softening of American hearts. And the only way that happens is by the power of God. That is our greatest hope, but none of us can claim to know what God has planned.
But even if this happened, there would be no trials because there would be too many guilty. Why was Barack Obama president? Because millions of citizens enabled him to be so. Why are abortionists in business? Because millions of citizens enable them to be so.
Those who put the Nazi party in power in 1933 could legitimately argue that they had no idea what the party intended to do. The American people have no such defense. They cannot possibly claim ignorance.
We cannot try millions of American voters. Were a mass awakening of conscience to occur, we would first rejoice at our eyes being opened. Then, we would mourn for our decades of blindness, and the lives lost because of it. Then, for the sake of a new beginning, we would need to move on, and not prolong the pain through years of trials.
Excellent post pro-lifst
I agree Pro-Lifist in part. One has to separate the victims from the victimizers. The victims are the unborn and the Mothers who had the abortions. The victimizers are the abortionists and their motley supporters. Surely, we can bring the worst victimizers to trial. All past presidents of PP come to mind, the profiteers should have to hand over their money to the victims, in order to pay for the damages they caused.
Is abortion murder?
Tyler, how would the profiteers of abortion pay the “victims” restitution? Isn’t the result of a successful abortion a dead child?
Abortion is murder.
The profiteers would pay the Mothers, Fathers, and families of the deceased. To help defray the costs of any pyschological turmoil that profiteers caused in the lives of the victims.
I think it’s illegal to try people for a crime, when the action wasn’t illegal when they committed it, right? I can’t see some mass trial for all the tons of politicians who support and defend abortion right now, and I can’t say that I disagree.
Pro-lifist’s post is excellent and I agree.
I think these crimes will fade away without much in the way of prosecution. What will be left will be something similar to: “I can’t believe my great-grandfather was a slaveholder!”
Jack, that’s correct. That would be an ex post facto law and I believe the Constitution specifically forbids them. In this case, though, if corruption is going on (cover-ups of currently illegal activity, for example), that would be prosecutable.
That being said, I don’t think any high-level official will ever be prosecuted for it. Especially Obama.
If Bingham is being prosecuted for crimes under current law, then people covering up those crimes could also be be prosectied.
Sibelius sounds like a reasonable target; anyone complicit in crimes.
As for prosectuing every woman who participated in a legal abortion, that’s different.
It’s a little staggering to think of how much we as a nation- especially a developed, prospering nation with a record of moral values- will have to face. We can only ignore ultrasounds, etc. for so long. It’s going to be rough.
The Righteous Judge of all the earth will bring all to justice. Until then, if the U.S. endures, I do foresee such trials. The tide is turning. The question is, will the U.S. survive as a nation under our Constitution that long? Of that, I am not so sure.
I’ve heard that some women abort because of the stigma that used to be on unwed motherhood. Will everyone who has ever discriminated against or harassed single mothers because of their status be tried?
Hey, I suppose if the government wants to expend resources prosecuting people, it can do so. As for employers who allegedly discriminated against single mothers, there is legal redress through the EEOC. As for reasons women get abortions, many (like me) got them because we were scared to be pregnant and took the “easy way” out. Abortion is a crime against humanity. I believe that when Americans come to terms with the atrocity they have allowed in their neighborhoods against those least able to defend themselves, we will need much mental health services. But don’t look to the APA; they think that abortion has no negative effect on women, as if authorizing the death sentence for your own child is somehow normal.
I hope the politicians who cover up for law-breaking abortionists get punished as accessories. And I look forward to the day when abortion is recriminalized.
Barb, why were you “scared to be pregnant”?
Hi Denise;
Because my body was going through all these changes, fear of what the future held. Also because I was worried about disappointing my parents (who were so proud of me for getting an engineering degree), because I was worried about what my coworkers would think of me, because my boyfriend was cajoling me into getting an abortion and I was afraid that he would abandon me.
In the case of my parents, I think it was less about stigma and more about trying to live up to their belief in me. Coworkers? definitely a stigma thing. Boyfriend – frightening to learn how little regard he had for me.
My parents would have been more horrified if they knew I had had an abortion than they would have been about my single motherhood.
I am not at all surprised to see that some women don’t like being pregnant. But they should never be encouraged to get abortions, rather they should be encouraged to have the baby. I didn’t enjoy being pregnant with my three living children, but I love them dearly. And I was scared during the pregnancy of my oldest – because of the body changes and fear of the future.
Pro-lifist says “…we would mourn for our decades of blindness”. Yes, that is what is awaiting us. Will there be massive arrests and prosecutions? No, but it could also be that civil order will be all but lost by that time. More than likely it will take a major crisis to awaken us. It is then that we will finally realize the insanity of killing millions of our unborn.
Barb says:
January 8, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Hi Denise;
Because my body was going through all these changes, fear of what the future held. Also because I was worried about disappointing my parents (who were so proud of me for getting an engineering degree), because I was worried about what my coworkers would think of me, because my boyfriend was cajoling me into getting an abortion and I was afraid that he would abandon me.
(Denise) I began having psychotic symptoms in adolescence. Mom would report that people said I was “retarded” or asked, “Is she all right?” while pointing to their heads. Then she would add, “Of course, if you were more like other girls, you might get a boyfriend and get pregnant.” This is why I’ve always identified with the beautiful movie “Splendor in the Grass.” The “bad girl” has to “have one of those awful operations” while the “good girl” sinks into mental illness.
We can understand the historical stigma against lesbianism through this. Lesbianism has none of the horrors of pregnancy or abortion. It allows the female to enjoy partnered sexual pleasure without threatening to snap around her like a trap snaps around a captured animal. Thus, the stigma appears “fair” because it balances out the inherent advantages of lesbianism and it also seems “necessary” because, to the extent that females can choose, they would choose relationships in which they don’t have to fret the next day that they “let it go too far” or wait anxiously for a menstrual period, unless a stigma is attached to the practice.
<<In the case of my parents, I think it was less about stigma and more about trying to live up to their belief in me. Coworkers? definitely a stigma thing. Boyfriend – frightening to learn how little regard he had for me.
My parents would have been more horrified if they knew I had had an abortion than they would have been about my single motherhood.
I am not at all surprised to see that some women don’t like being pregnant. But they should never be encouraged to get abortions, rather they should be encouraged to have the baby. I didn’t enjoy being pregnant with my three living children, but I love them dearly. And I was scared during the pregnancy of my oldest – because of the body changes and fear of the future.
(Denise) I don't think abortion can be outlawed while having them is so popular. It would just be another Prohibition at this point. If we cut down radically on the number of abortions, THEN outlawing them might be feasible.
What we have to do right now is make unplanned pregnancies rare — not non-existent but rare.
If there were Nuremburg-like trials, we can expect the accused to act just as “honorably” as the people in the original trials: “I was only doing what I was told to do” “I was only following orders” and ”I was only following directions.”
Every argument used to promote abortion in the 60’s 70’s and 80’s has been made null and void by the current actions and words of today’s abortionists and their advocating minions. For example, the NAF turned a deliberate blind eye to the crimes of Kermit Gosnell, allowing women to be hurt, mutilated, in some cases murdered, and allowing post-born babies to be brutally murdered even though they could have been humanely abandonned at a nearby hospital or firestation with no questions asked.
Every agrument used to promote abortion in the past is made null and void by the continued resistance by abortionists to adhere to even the most minimal standards of cleanliness and medical professionalism. “Back Alley” abortions are happening today, and the year is NOT 1962. Abortion advocates are sick, sick people and would rather continue to maim and murder women rather than treat human beings like human beings. My dog is safer at any vets office at all than a women is at the hands of any abortionist. And my dog has more legal rights.
Abortion needs to be criminalized immediately.
Legal abortion didn’t live up to much of what it was touted to do. For example, proponents suggested it would keep down out of wedlock births. It did not. Some thought it would radically decrease child abuse. It did not.
However, abortion is so terribly popular that outlawing it at this point would be a replay of Prohibition and speakeasies. The law would be widely flouted. Juries would be extremely reluctant to convict anyone.
When unplanned pregnancies decline, taking abortions with them, it will be more feasible to outlaw abortions and expect the law to be widely followed.
Problem pregnancies may be inevitable just as getting struck by lightning is inevitable. But if it were as rare as being struck by lightning, we would have made much progress.
The best way to prevent abortions is to make it easier for women NOT to get pregnant. Age appropriate sex education and easily available contraception are a good place to start!
LJZ says:
January 10, 2012 at 10:57 pm
The best way to prevent abortions is to make it easier for women NOT to get pregnant. Age appropriate sex education and easily available contraception are a good place to start!
(Denise) I’ve been saying it for a long time. A girl or woman can’t abort if she’s not pregnant. Thus, a campaign against unplanned pregnancies is automatically a campaign against abortion.
“The best way to prevent abortions is to make it easier for women NOT to get pregnant” Don’t have sex and you won’t get pregnant.. tada! It doesn’t get easier than that actually.
@Laura: It’s thinking like that has leads to more abortions. I guess the blood will be on your hands!