Stanek Sunday funnies 1-13-13

UPDATE: 1/14, 8:20a: The poll is now closed. Your favorite cartoon was Glenn McCoy’s (54%) and 2nd fav was Lisa Benson’s (21%). Interesting, and thanks for participating!

1/13, 10:02a: Here were my top five favorite political cartoons this past week. Note: I’ve added a new poll feature at the end. Vote for your favorite!

by Lisa Benson at Townhall.com
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 by Glenn Foden at Townhall.com
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 by Glenn McCoy at Townhall.com
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 by Matt Wuerker at GoComics.com
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 by Steve Breen at Townhall.com
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62 thoughts on “Stanek Sunday funnies 1-13-13”

  1. LOL,
    I love that Obama and binders full of women one. An ardent Feminist that I work with was just mortified at Romney’s “binders full of women”, however she never had a problem with Bill Clinton sexually assaulting women or having a young woman service him under his desk. Her argument was always that Clinton was never convicted. Yeah, like Clinton would be convicted. I reminded her he had his goon squads to shut up any woman who dared speak up.
    So I hope to see her reaction to The Dear Leader being, well, not quick to appoint women.

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  2. I think the third “cartoon” is a bit lacking in understanding of the issue.  PP has been funded since 1970 – Nixon put funding in place. 

    That means that Reagan signed budgets with PP getting funding.  

    Both Bushes funded planned parenthood.

    In fact, George HW Bush once said: “We need to make population and family planning household words. We need to take sensationalism out of this topic so that it can no longer be used by militants who have no real knowledge of the voluntary nature of the program but, rather are using it as a political steppingstone. If family planning is anything, it is a public health matter.”

    To pretend that this is some new issue – like if Romney had won, there wouldn’t be any abortions at planned parenthood last year or this – to pretend that is simply ignoring history.

    People have the right to believe they shouldn’t receive funds – that is a good debate.  Just don’t pretend this is an issue isolated to just today’s time.   

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  3. “An ardent Feminist that I work with was just mortified at Romney’s “binders full of women”, however she never had a problem with Bill Clinton sexually assaulting women or having a young woman service him under his desk. Her argument was always that Clinton was never convicted. Yeah, like Clinton would be convicted. I reminded her he had his goon squads to shut up any woman who dared speak up.”
     
    I actually really don’t get why I haven’t ever heard any feminists criticize Clinton’s proven indiscretions and alleged crimes. Some of them certainly believe in guilty until proven innocent for every other man accused of any type of sex crime, I don’t get why Clinton gets some free pass. Not that I believe that guilty until proven innocent is how we should treat people accused of any crime, but I don’t understand the double standard.

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  4. I kinda wish the t-shirt just read “the Church”.  An image of lukewarm, apathetic, lethargic Christians shaking bloody hands with the Grim Reaper would be more accurate.  It’s not just Catholics with the blood of innocent children on their hands.
    But our merciful God hasn’t given up on America just yet.  Perhaps when we receive the next round of judgments He has ordained for our warning and correction, perhaps then we will fall on our knees in true brokenness and contrition.  Perhaps then we’ll turn from our wicked ways.
    What’s coming will make 9/11 look relatively mild.

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  5. Hi Jack,
    Its the same reason they turned a blind eye, for years, to the antics of Ted Kennedy, who made Clinton look like a monk. These politicians served their cause, so the feminists were willing to look the other way. That is why women who accused Clinton could be reviled and ridiculed as “trailer trash” “psychotics”, “obsessed,” “bimboes”, and “liars”…. and feminists maintained only a deafening silence. Bill Clinton was their boy. Clarence Thomas was persecuted for being a black conservative, not his lousy pick up lines, assuming he even said them. It was expecially ironic to see Ted Kennedy sitting in judgment of Thomas, especially when his nephew was facing rape charges after a night of tomcatting with Uncle Ted, whom one would think a tad old to be out romping like a college boy. Of course feminists had no objections to Uncle Ted using his power and money to get his nephew off the hook, nor could they muster up an iota of outrage or offer support to the woman, who of course didn’t have a prayer against the Kennedy millions.
    I was especially disgusted when the Rev. Billy Graham even defended Clinton by suggesting(paraphrasing) that with all these sex crazed women, a guy just can’t be expected to control himself. I have had zero respect for the man since and even less regard for anything he has to say.

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  6. “I was especially disgusted when the Rev. Billy Graham even defended Clinton by suggesting(paraphrasing) that with all these sex crazed women, a guy just can’t be expected to control himself. I have had zero respect for the man since and even less regard for anything he has to say.”
     
    He said that? Wow. Nice perpetrator excusing and victim blaming there. Pretty disgusting. I think I just lost the (tiny) bit of respect I had for the dude.
     
    I think you are right about it being based on political biases, this excusing of people who they otherwise would have crucified. I think both sides do it terribly. I remember my dad calling Newt Gringich’s wife that he cheated on a “frigid b**ch” and totally excusing him from any blame for having an affair, and at the same time he was rooting for Clinton to get impeached because “he didn’t want a president with those kind of morals”. My dad’s super Republican so I am guessing that had something to do with that hypocrisy.

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  7. Yup, there’s enough blame to go around for all of us Mary.  Our hearts are so deceitful
    Jesus is coming back for a Bride that loves Him the same way He loves her.  The only way we can do that is by His grace.  He commands us to love Him with all our heart, soul, mind and strength because that’s how He loves us.  It’s amazing.  The eternal, all powerful, Almighty God loves us with all His strenth.  He loves us with all His mind, and there isn’t a sparrow that falls to the ground that He does not see.
    He’s just looking for willing hearts, yielded vessels.  He wants us to turn back to Him, to know Him.

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  8. ” It’s not just Catholics with the blood of innocent children on their hands.”
    @Ed H, I agree, but…
    If the “Catholic Church” makes the claim to be “The Church”, then certainly it’s moral failings and lack of a ability to communicate a concept as simple as “don’t kill your babies”(?!?! WT%!@ ?!?!) might be held to a greater standard then 30,000 disgruntled, quarreling, off-shoots.  As though the concept is so horribly difficult to grasp.
    Not that the church, or anyone for that matter, is ultimately responsible for another’s wrong doings.  But might “The Church” be held to a higher standard for not doing something more/better/etc. in working to stem the shedding of so much blood?
    (inhale) “Don’t kill you babies”.  (exhale)  “Don’t kill you babies”.   (inhale)…..Repeat.

    The longer I mull it over, the more I’m saddened that the greater guilt for this is on the head of “men”, rather than “women”.   I think this might be reflected in the position of many people who would not prosecute a woman who obtains an abortion, but rather go after those who would promote and profit from it.

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  9. Sadly, the “30,000” gun violence number includes 19,000+ suicide deaths.  If we’re making something closer to an “apples to apples” comparison, it would be:

    Gun Violence: 11,000+ deaths
    Planned Parenthood 329,000+ deaths.

    Curiously enough, even the 11,000+ number might be high.  I heard a news program that broke that 11,000 number down to where the “real number” is closer to 9,000.  Way to many, but less than 1/3 of the 30,000 number.

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  10. You’re right MP.  The Church has abdigated her responsibility to be the salt of the earth and the light of the world.
     
    In Biblical times, salt was used primarily as a preservative to keep food from spoiling.  The analogy is that the true Church of the Lord Jesus Christ, which is made up of believers in all denominations (and non-denominations), are collectively called to stem the tide of corruption and evil which is in the world through sinful desires.  It starts in the pulpits.  Anointed men and women of God need to stand and proclaim boldly the truth about the genocide that is happening around us every day.
     
    Was there culpability on the part of the families that lived around the NAZI death camps that did nothing to stop the ongoing slaughter?
     
    I’m convicted myself at my own recent passivity.  I’m not sure what I’m going to do, but I’m going to do someting.

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  11. Ex-GOP, do you realize that Title X recipients were prohibited from performing or referring for abortions throughout George H. W. Bush’s entire presidency?  And that from 1970 until 1993, financial and physical separation had to be in place for any organization to receive Title X funds?
    http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/facts/abortion_title_x.html
    Do you honestly think that Planned Parenthood would get the same funding even without Obama and Democrats in the Senate, or that they would do just as many abortions even without taxpayer support?

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  12. Hmm, the editing feature is almost fixed.  I get edit time, but I can’t actually edit my comment…

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  13. The Catholic vote cartoon, at best is misguided, and at worst is a vicious slur.
     
    Let’s reframe this one by the numbers.
     
    Blacks represent  12% of the population, and it was they who voted for Obama with 93% loyalty.  They also have 37% of all abortions. If we are shopping around for a single demographic to lay this one on, why not the single group that delivered Obama twice, are the largest consumers of abortion, and whose vote has kept the Democrats in the game for decades?
     
    Will we see a similar cartoon anytime soon, one that takes on the NAACP?
     
    I think not. That’s just as well, because EVERY demographic in society bears a share of the blame. However, to single out the Catholic Church, who were the first group into this fight (and pretty much alone on the ramparts for decades before our beloved friends from so many other faiths joined us) is simply diabolical. The truth is that no other faith has done more to end abortion, or has been at it longer.
     
    As for African-Americans, they are the key to abortion, and Planned Parenthood knows it all too well, which is why they operate over 70% of their abortion clinics in communities of color. If we want to end abortion, then I suggest that pro-lifers get in touch with Dr. Alveda King and open their checkbooks. She and the other members of the National Black Pro-life coalition desperately need our funding to do the work within the Black community.
     

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  14. The Catholic’s deserve to be taken to task. 
    “and the servant who was ignorant of his master’s will but acted in a way deserving of a severe beating shall be beaten only lightly. Much will be required of the person entrusted with much, and still more will be demanded of the person entrusted with more. ”   Luke 12:48

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  15. Dr. Nadal, you are correct regarding the nearly universal support African-American voters have given to Democrats in general and Mr. Obama in particular. However, we cannot forget the 50% of Catholics who are either die-hard Democrats from a long line of Democrats or otherwise justified their continued support for Democrats on the basis of social justice.  That is a material voting block that bears much of the culpability for our current culture. Had the Kennedy family not been handed a pass by a group of priests and theologians on how to support the growing tide of abortion advocates without loosing their souls, would we be in the current state in which we now find ourselves? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123086375678148323.html

    Of course, we cannot excuse all those bishops and priests who have failed to educate the flock; another nail in the coffin of our Nation’s morality hammered in by those Catholics who support any number of sins in the name of social justice.  

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  16. Hi Jack,
    Here is the source, while I don’t necessarily support or agree with everything else being said it does give a source for what I said. Scroll down to the first paragragh under “Billy Graham Shamelessly Subverts the Faith”.
    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/billy_graham_exposed.htm
    I definitely hear you on the blame game double standard. Any number of men of all political  persausions that I encountered “understood”, I mean, look “what” he’s married to. Yeah, like he’s such a prize. Even women said the same thing, and still drool over the guy. More than one feminist admitted to me that Bill Clinton’s politics were the reason they were willing to overlook all else, and go after Clarence Thomas with a vengence.
     

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  17. Hi Mary Paul Forsyth,
    Some excellent points. Let’s not forget the Kennedy family’s power and support of abortion, particularly by Ted Kennedy.
    Also, concerning social justice. I don’t recall Christ instructing His followers that caring for those in need meant sending them to a welfare office or demanding that Ceasar cough up yet more money or another government sponsored program. It meant effort and sacrifice on a personal level, at least that is how I interpret it.

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  18. Hi ts 1:34PM
    Maybe Obama should consult Bill Clinton. I’m sure he’s got more than a few binders full of women.

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  19. Hi Mary.  The modus operandi of the left.  The bigger the lie and the more hypocritical the charge the better for them cause it keeps the opposition busy defending themselves against bogus charge and is more effective at sucking people into redirected dialogue.  It is one of Obama’s most effective tactics.

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  20. The next biggest problem for the left to address is gendercide.   Scientific data is becoming available that shows gendercide is occurring.  It will be interesting watching them squirm.  How are they gonna blame Bush for that?

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  21. Mary Paul,
     
    I don’t disagree with your facts, but I find it repellent to suggest that the one group who has shared the disproportionate share of the fight should be castigated for not being as nearly unanimous in their opposition to Obama as the blacks have been in their support of him.
     
    From the left, we’re behind this phony war on women, then we get butchered for not being more pro-life, while the community that consumes the greatest percentage of abortions and voted 93% for Obama skates.

     
    True civil rights means bearing all of one’s corresponding civil responsibilities. It is patronizing and racist to continue ignoring the elephant in the room, and that is the Black community’s complicity in all of this. The Hispanics aren’t much better. In New York City, blacks and Hispanics have 82.5% of all abortions.
     
    I really think we need to get over the fear of being labeled racists and go to where the bulk of the problem resides. I suppose there are many who revel in these eugenic self self-inflicted genocidal numbers. I’m not afraid, and think it long overdue to confront these appalling numbers.
     
    We won’t get there by bishop-bashing and finger-pointing at pro-choice Catholics.
     
    Genuine, mature equality demands adifferent approach.

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  22. Hi Gerard,
    I don’t really see this cartoon as singling out Catholics. What I find disturbing is the support of 50% of Catholics despite Obama’s obvious contempt for them and their religious freedom. I am equally as shocked by the Jewish support of Obama. Also, why black Americans would give their support to a Party that fought tooth and nail for decades to deny black Americans the most basic human rights and dignity, and who according to black conservatives, devastated the black family and community, is also beyond my comprehension.
    Which I think is the point Mary Paul makes. People put “social justice” and loyalty to liberalism and Democrats ahead of all else, to their own detriment. What about a prominent politically powerful Catholic family like the Kennedys who have fought to keep abortion legal? Where is the Catholic clergy on this?The message that is sent is what?
    Gerard, I have heard the Catholic faithful, including clergy, view Obama as messianic. I have equally heard Catholic faithful vehemently oppose him. I am still deeply troubled by Cardinal Dolan yukking it up with Obama. 
    As I’ve said before and will say again, I no longer wonder how people as intelligent, educated, and cultured as the Germans were led to their destruction by an Austrian street thug. In 2008 people couldn’t tell you why they voted for Obama, who he was, or much of anything else. It was just him. I really think this video says it all.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo-TkzGFe4s
    There is a religious message in the last 50 seconds or so, depending on your beliefs. The first 5 minutes of the video is what I think is very profound, frightening, and speaks volumes.
     

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  23. Hi Gerard,
    Personally I think there should be cartoons questioning Jews and Hispanics supporting Obama, and black support of Obama and the Democrat Party and for all I know maybe there are, they just aren’t on this site.
    But facts have a way of biting us in the butt and the fact is Catholics voted 50% for Obama, someone who has shown them only seething contempt and supports unfettered abortion. You can show this cartoon in a sea of hundreds of other cartoons questioning Jewish, Hispanic, and black support of Obama and it changes nothing.

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  24. Jumping to a different cartoon – on the last one – I want to throw an idea out to my wise board counterparts.

    We’ve now spent about $1.5 trillion on the Iraq and Afghan wars.  When veterans costs come in as well, we’re looking at roughly $3 trillion.

    My proposal – when we go into military action (over a certain dollar threshold), a nationwide sales tax automatically kicks in to fund the war.

    I think it is terrible that we are fighting the wars and passing on the costs to our kids futures.  Furthermore, I think it is terrible that as our troops lay their lives on the line, we have no shared sacrifice at home.  In WW2 there was rationing, victory gardens, war bonds, drives for precious materials – and now, we live our lives economically untouched from these actions.  Furthermore, I think it would be great for all of us to feel that pain so that we don’t linger in conflicts, or rush to conflicts – gives one more thing to think about. 

    Thoughts?   

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  25. EGV 4:29PM
    The rationing you mention during WW2 was a pittance compared to what our soldiers, my father, uncles, and cousins included, endured. Compared to what Europeans, Asians, and Pacific Islanders endured, Americans were living in the lap of luxury. 
    During the Korean, Vietnam and Iraq Wars Americans didn’t exactly share hardships with their soldiers, and I can think of no other “police action” i.e. sticking our noses in what doesn’t concern us, where we did either.
    As for taxes, I do believe Americans were charged extra taxes during the Vietnam War but correct me if I am wrong. I have a vague memory of a “surtax” of some kind.
    Since wars are usually not planned, with exceptions of course like for Iraq which I did not support, and Afghanistan which I think we should have done the job and left long ago, its hard to say. Since our taxes are going up anyway it seems kind of a moot point.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-01/senate-passed-deal-means-higher-tax-on-77-of-households.html
    Its a point that if we actually shared in the hardships of war, we would be more inclined to avoid it.

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  26. If you let the government assess a tax based on being “at war”, we will ALWAYS be at war.
    How about simply calling for responsible policies, both domestically and internationally.
    You know, the stuff they are “supposed” to be doing and were elected to do.

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  27. Michigan_Pat – I would recommend that the tax be adjusted yearly to only pay for war efforts and veteran costs.  

    I simply think that:
    – We should pay for our current ways always and not pass on those costs
    – We should think about the conflicts we get into
    – When it comes to veterans, they shouldn’t be wrapped up into the general budget and we should fully pay for the freedom they gave us.   

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  28. ‘How about simply calling for responsible policies, both domestically and internationally.’
     
    “Deficits don’t matter.”– Dick Cheney

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  29. mp – I’ve always enjoyed the Orrin Hatch quote:
     
    “Well, in those days (referring to the expansion of medicare and under Bush), a lot of things weren’t paid for and that wasn’t right.”

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  30. I guess we’re going off on a tangent.

    It was a good political cartoon.
    Take away whatever good you can from it.

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  31. Your point in repeating my post and source is…what? 

     
    You said taxes went up, which is a half-truth but, of course, you know that.
     
    Those earning middle class incomes did not see their tax rate go up.
     
    The BI-PARTISAN reduction of the payroll tax was an emergency measure, understood by everyone involved to be a TEMPORARY measure.

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  32. Earmarked taxes are BS.   Look at the lottery funds that get earmarked for ‘education’.  They just shuffle the funds and education ends up net zero. 

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  33. mp,
    I gave a source which apparently you didn’t read as it points to increased taxes on more than 80% of households in the $50,000 to $200,000 range. Depending on your source and an economist’s opinion, middle class can be considered anywhere from 30,000 to 100,000 so obviously middle class taxpayers are being hit.
    Also, my source stated the expiration of the payroll tax cut as the reason. I assume people on this blog know how to click on a link. 
     
     
     

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  34. I voted for the Les Miserables one.  The hypocrisy of Americans who claim to love children yetl selfishly burden them with huge debt.  The government we have is a reflection of our values: grasping material benefits without paying for them.   George Will observed that in the past, deficits paid for “infrastructure, winning wars – which benefited future generations, so government borrowing appropriately shared the burden with those generations.  Now, however, continuous borrowing burdens future generations in order to finance current consumption.”
    One predictable outcome – alienation between the younger generations and the older ones.  If you thought things were ugly now…

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  35. Another example – Obama just took a half a trillion dollars in funds that were collected earmarked for Medicaid and used them to pay for Obamacare.  How about the taxes earmaked for Social Security.  What fraction of the Social Security taxes collected were used by the government for something other than Social Security benefits?

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  36. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND EVERYTHING HOLY, STOP SCREWING UP MEDICARE AND MEDICAID.  THEY ARE TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS!
    I feel better now.  
    On a side note, CNN labels that half a trillion claim as “misleading”.  
     

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  37. I have heard the Catholic faithful, including clergy, view Obama as messianic. I have equally heard Catholic faithful vehemently oppose him. 
    I have heard Big Foot was sighted in a nearby town.
     

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  38. Praxedes,
    I have heard this personally from their mouths.  I am not speaking in generalizations. Also a close friend of mine who is Catholic and vehemently opposes Obama, has expressed her outrage to me over her Catholic lay and clergy acquaintances who are entranced by Obama. If you check out the link I posted for Gerard, you will see what I’m saying isn’t so far fetched, unlike Big Foot.

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  39. I’ll stop calling Medicaid Medicare when you admit taxes collected to pay for Medicaid and Medicare were stolen from the fund to fund Obamacare.

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  40. The characterization of President Obama as messianic is largely a creation of the right.
     
    The real people who support him understand he’s as human as the rest of us, just a bit smarter and more competent.
     
     

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  41. Hal,
    You’re being funny right? Please check out the video I posted to Gerard at 3:19PM.
     

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  42. Oh, you must be referring to the shell game they played with the money they stole.  They are taking future funds by renegging on future reimbursements.

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  43.  
     
    Prop 8 is going before the Supreme Court after being voted down twice in it’s home State and being overturned after being legalized by the Supreme Court on the State level. 
     
     
     
    If your against the Dissolution of Marriage, ACTIVATE!
     
    http://www.dumpstarbucks.com/
     
     
     
    Eat the bread sacrificed to idols, you will send a message to non-believers
    “A portion of every cup of coffee purchased at a Starbucks anywhere in the world goes to fund this corporate assault on marriage.
    We urge consumers across the globe to join the ‘Dump Starbucks’ campaign.
    In addition to Starbucks coffee shops, the Starbucks Corporation also owns Seattle’s Best Coffee, Verismo single-serve coffee system, Evolution Fresh, Tazo Tea, Torrefazione Italia Coffee, and La Boulange.

    Please sign the petition to register your protest.”
     
    Also, thanks to those who recognize the difference between Catholics for Obama, and, ahem, Catholics.
    Going to church makes you a Christian no more than going to a carwash makes you a car. 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

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  44. mp,
    You said taxes went up, which is a half-truth but, of course, you know that.
     
    How about the total lie that Obama has cut taxes for 99% of us by grudgingly not raising tax rates. Meanwhile other taxes go up. The old “bait and switch.”
     

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  45. Hal says: January 13, 2013 at 8:36 pm   “The real people who support him understand he’s as human as the rest of us, just a bit smarter and more competent.”
    Gerard Nadal says: January 13, 2013 at 3:35 pm 
     
    “I’m speechless. How does this NOT single out Catholics??????”
    Gerard,
    It only singles out the mesmerized minions who have willingly supsended their disbelief and embraced an incompetent and malignant fool.
    There were a lot of German christians, protestant and catholic alike, who were fooled by a charismatic charalatan.
    “There is nothing new under the sun.”
    I once again encourage these brain dead low information zombies to get that 0’bama tattoo right in the middle of their forehead so we can point to them in the decades to come and tell our children and our grandchildren these are the ones who sold YOUR inheritance for fairy tells and crackpipe dreams.
    To that village in Kenya: We have your idiot and millions more beside, please come and take them so they can fully experience the utopia that b o has envisioned for them.

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  46. Hans –
    Ha, but according to that crazy Grover guy, it was all a tax cut because the taxes expired, and then were then brought back down.
    Politicians…

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  47. Ex-RINO, How is that Obamacare offset a trillion dollars of costs by not taking any  funds from Medicaid?

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  48. This from the Daily Caller:
    During a hearing on Capitol Hill Thursday, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) admitted to double-counting in the Obamacare budget.
    In her first appearance before the House Energy and Commerce Health Subcommittee since the health-care law passed, Kathleen Sebelius responded to a line of questioning by Republican Rep. John Shimkus of Illinois about whether $500 billion in Medicare cuts were used to sustain the program or pay for the law.
    “There is an issue here on the budget because your own actuary has said you can’t double-count,” said Shimkus. “You can’t count — they’re attacking Medicare on the CR when their bill, your law, cut $500 billion from Medicare.”  He continued: “Then you’re also using the same $500 billion to what? Say your funding health care. Your own actuary says you can’t do both. […] What’s the $500 billion in cuts for? Preserving Medicare or funding the health-care law?

    Sebelius’ reply? “Both.”
     

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  49. Ex-GOP,
    I’m not much of a Norquist fan myself, but not for his narrow tax agenda. Mostly because he’s no friend of Israel, due mostly to his wife’s influence.

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  50. Call me cynical, but I think all these rainbows and unicorns will be tarnished and tattered in a few years. No, I really don’t have the solution. Except that I have more faith in the free market than government bureaucracy.
     
    One can be tamed, the other is running amok.

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  51. “How is health care reform paid for?”
    By writing a bunch of gimmicks and double counting and asking the CBO to score it.

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  52. A hospital in Pennsylvania is stopping to offer maternity services because they can’t afford it due to projected reimbursements under Obamacare.  Wow, so Obamacare policies MUST include maternity coverage but the government reimbursement rates will be so low that doctors and hospitals will not take Obamacare patients.  This same kind of thing is happening to Medicare patients on a huge scale.  In order to cook the books and pay for Obamacare they lowered future Medicare reimbursements rates so doctors are beginning to refuse to take Medicare patients.  All I can see is the American people are idiots to vote for Obama and allow Obamacare to be implemented.  It is going to lower the quality of care and the care we get will cost us much more because of all the bureaucracy and cronyism that comes with government run anything.  Get ready.  Here it comes.  But don’t blame me!  I didn’t vote for this fraud.

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  53. Wanted:
    A new person to debate health care policy with.  Must have the ability to post links (like in the above story, in which I had to find out through searching it was Windber hospital in PA) and must have the ability to tell the whole story (from the story – “The difficult decision was prompted by unexpected news that two doctors were leaving the area and the remaining two obstetrician-gynecologists were shifting focus, hospital President and CEO Barbara Cliff said.”
    Please post your resume to this site – above all else, I hope you are both truthful and respectful.  Both would be welcome changes. 

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