Vanity Fair writer’s “anti-Tebow” ad script
Well, here’s the 2nd time in 2 days I’m using this word: Ack.
Pro-abort Vanity Fair writer Andrea Buchanan scripted her dream anti-Tebow ad yesterday.
It’s quite inspiring if you like to be depressed, which pretty much sums up the meaning of abortion, aside from death. Not to mention the fact Buchanan stereotypes, misleads, wildly exaggerates, and appears cynical, angry, clichéd, and bitter. Is this really the only way abortion proponents can sell their product?
My commercial would open with a wide shot of abortion protestors (many who are members of Focus on the Family) marching in front of the doors of a non-descript abortion clinic in anywhere U.S.A. I would show them shouting “baby killer” and “devil worshiper,” and depict images of them throwing holy water on the women who are attempting to walk through the doors and see a doctor. I would cast the commercial starting with the anti-Tebows: the unattractive, the unfit, the look of stark raving mad….
Then I would cut to Dr. George Tiller, the abortion provider who was murdered by Scott Roeder in June 2009. Tiller, like Tebow, was a devout Christian, and he never missed a Sunday service. He was shot pointblank range in front of his family while attending church in his hometown of Wichita, KS. The Super Bowl audience, while drinking their beers and eating their Doritos, would watch Tiller speaking directly into the camera about the women who come to see him and why they have to make these very difficult choices….
In my commercial, I would get close-ups of the women who named their babies and held funerals for them and still made the decision to abort because they were so malformed that they were missing hearts, lungs, or barely recognizable as a human being. I would cut to various women, speaking straight into camera, from all walks of life that have had to face a difficult choice to have abortions and hear first hand why they made that choice. We would see a gritty montage of women who have been raped and don’t want to keep a child, women who became pregnant after being penetrated by their father and have been brave enough to speak out and get help. Women who are homeless and can’t afford to keep the children they have, much less another child. Young women who had sex, got pregnant, and want to finish high school and go on to college. Women who are wealthy, educated, married, and simply don’t want another baby for whatever reason. The myriad of choices.
And then I would cut back to Tiller. I would show pictures of his family. Pictures of his church and congregation that loved him and I would ask for an interview with his wife and children. I would hear first hand about how much they miss their father and their husband. And then a final image in my Super Bowl commercial would be Scott Roeder, Tiller’s murderer, being carted off to jail, serving life in prison without a morsel of regret in his face. I would show his mother, who made the choice to give birth to Scott Roeder, just as Tim Tebow’s mother did. And at the end of my awesome, 30-second $2.5 million football commercial, I would say simply: “Not all babies end up football stars. Celebrate life. Celebrate family. Celebrate choice.”
“Celebrate”?
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
In what way does supporting abortion solve rape or incest? How does it prevent any future rapes or acts of incest? How can we celebrate killing the disabled and the deformed? And married women who just don’t want any more children – isn’t that using abortion as birth control? Some choices are wrong.
This is a completely depressing ad.
Tiller was NOT a Devout Christian! ONLY GOD knew his Heart and if he was, and considering he made his living destroying babies, I’d say NOT.
Funny, how this person creates a stereotype view of protesters.
I’d show a single protester, praying quietly, with tears streaming down her cheeks, praying for the young girl who was pulled into a clinic against her will. The REAL face of choice is FORCING girls to have abortions when they wanted to choose life.
Pray for this woman, she needs it BADLY.
“The myriad of choices” … that’s so sick. No, not all babies end up football stars. Most are spared that dubious honor. But all end up people … because they’re people to begin with, and to kill them is murder.
Does this semi-literate (for a Vanity Fair writer her syntax is abominable) “journalist” really know so little about human biology as to believe that Tiller’s abortion factory was about aborting babies without hearts and lungs? If they hadn’t had hearts and lungs, an abortion wouldn’t have been necessary to kill them. No human being can live without a heart or lungs.
Surely such children die peacefully — if children like this ever live at all — and are mercifully spared the terror and pain of being ripped out of the womb limb from limb for blood money paid by their own mothers.
Furthermore, Tiller wouldn’t have become a millionaire by marketing his services to mothers carrying babies missing hearts and lungs … and he WAS a millionaire.
Then. Now he’s toast.
Devout Christian? Please do not insult my Savior that way. No true Christian — devout or otherwise — could do what Tiller did for one day, much less for decades.
Tiller was the one missing a heart, and he was a total waste of the lungs God gave him. And make no mistake: he banked his millions by heart- and soul-lessly murdering innocent HEALTHY children.
The woman who wrote this is at best incredibly ignorant and at worst an evil monster — as bad as or worse than the execrably ignorant and the demonically evil individuals she defends. All of these people will face almighty God with their actions. Every knee shall bow.
The babies are safe in heaven.
you can not expect any better from ‘Vanity fair’
I looked at it in the doctor’s office the other day and was not surprised that so many American women are brainwashed to be ‘liberals’ judging by the trash that was in that magazine.
No less than 3 articles on Republicans and how terrible they are, amongst them Sarah Palin. I was shocked that a magazine like that would be so into politics and brainwashing people…
“Not all babies end up football stars. Celebrate life. Celebrate family. Celebrate choice.”
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Yeah, that’s true, but equally true is that virtually all “CHOICED” babies end up dead.
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The View’s Joy Behar said that Tim Tebow could have “easily become some kind of a rapist pedophile.”
The NO[SL]W (National Organisation of Some Liberal/Lesbain Women) could follow Joy Behar’s lead and produce a 30 second spot with picture of Stanley Ann Dunnham and a female voice over saying:
“My son could have just as easily turned out to be a bummbling buffoon of a president like Jimmy Carter, but I made my ‘CHOICE’ to birth the boy anyway.”
Then fade in a picture of Dunnham’s son.
President Barack Hussein Obama
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I think what bothers me most is the lack of intelligent response to the FOTF ad.
I have protested at clinics; we never screamed, threw water, and most of us are very lovely and of sound mind.
Abortion doesn’t stop the causes this woman states are the real issue, like rape, incest and poverty. (The ‘homeless’ example REALLY grates on my nerves; at $300+ per procedure, how do homeless women afford abortion?)
Stereotypes, instead of facts, big surprise. But I remain calm and focused. As should all pro-life adherents.
Implicit in her analysis is that perhaps Scott Roeder’s mother should have aborted him. This presumes that he was destined to kill from the moment of conception; that nothing in his upbringing could have changed him; that in fact, none of us make “choices” at all. If this is the case, however, why stop at abortion? Kill them while they’re toddlers, teens, or any time before they have a chance to act on their destiny.
I said it about the Planned Parenthood ad and I will say it about this also: it is empty abortionist drivel.
However, the PP ad was just vague and empty drivel about “choice” and “personal medical decisions” and that sort of thing. This one goes off the deep end into twisting and distorting our movement to make us look like the monsters that the abortionists think we are.
If the abortionists believe in “choice” and support each mother’s “difficult decision” to kill a child and support George Tiller’s “difficult decisions” to kill 60,000(!) children,
why don’t they follow their own “logic” and support Scott Roeder’s “difficult decision” to kill George Tiller?
Why would an abortionist advocate oppose the “choice” to kill George Tiller when every single one of them would have allowed Tiller to be killed in the unborn stage and to have his whole life taken from him?
“I would cast the commercial starting with the anti-Tebows: the unattractive, the unfit, the look of stark raving mad”….
A little projection going on??????
Thinking about those abortion clinics at which the underage girls were surgically violated, then returned to the custody of their abusers.
“I would cast the commercial starting with the anti-Tebows: the unattractive, the unfit, the look of stark raving mad”….
Straight out of Sanger’s play book.
“More from the fit, less from the unfit”!
On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
“…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ‘spawning… human beings who never should have been born.” Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people
I love how this Vanity Fair writer channeled her idol, Margaret Sanger…who uses words like “unfit” to defend abortion?
Not every baby would grow up to be a football star…so what, they deserve to die? I’m not a football star. Should I have been aborted?
Yeah, lets cut to all the women who aborted their babies at Tiller’s mill. Lets cut to their grief and regret, like Chelsea’s mom who aborted her baby because the baby girl had spina bifida. Tiller waged war on the handicapped.
To think that the babies being aborted didn’t have hearts and lungs is ridiculous. Healthy babies were constantly being aborted at Tiller’s death mill. And for the crime of being sick a baby should be sentenced to death? Hope this “journalist” is always healthy or she may face the same mercy killing mentality someday, especially under Obama-care.
Eh, whatever. Vanity Fair is a crappy magazine anyhow–90% ads.
With her logic… abortion should be retroactive to 18 years… or for that matter, just change the word “murder” to “abortion” in all of our post birth killing laws. Now doesn’t that soften things just a little? Just imagine what a good defense lawyer could do with that one!
I wonder how many of our fellow brothers and sisters are missing today because they were the result of a bi-racial couple? What kind of life would they have had anyway? Far better to chop and slice them up than to give them the chance to grow and overcome. Wouldn’t you agree President Obama?
Oh yeah, that ad would be ultra inspiring!
Shows exactly what abortion is about- eliminating the unfit, vengeance and hatred towards the pro-life people, especially the outrage against Tim Tebow’s mother for daring to speak out about her “choice”. No abortion ad would be complete without those types of things.
I for one would love an ad like that to run, especially side by side with the Tim Tebow ad. It would really make lots of people think and reconsider why they are “pro-choice” in the first place.
I think that article would shame me out of being pro choice.
Would CBS run this ad? When hell freezes over! Why not? Because it’s controversial in a different way and it shows just how ridiculous the Tebow ad truly is: it’s absurdist theater of ignorance and grossly irresponsible because it’s impossible to argue the other side of this. There is no other side. We all want life. We all want family. Not every woman has the same story or circumstances or end game.
No, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t air the ad because it would be lame and depressing. Not to mention very poorly written.
And if “pro-choicers” all want life, you should all support Tim Tebow’s mom in sharing her story of celebrating life…but we all know what you really support, and it is not life. Or family.
Cristy S., you’re exactly right.
And still the ONLY choice shown in the dream ad?? ABORTION!!!!
Leslie, excellent point! Touche to the pro-aborts!
Again we see the vast difference between a pro-lifer and a pro-abort.
The pro-lifer, an optimist, sees ALL life as sacred, with dignity. The pro-lifer errs on the side OF LIFE.
The pro-abort, a pessimist, errs on the side of corruption and evil. Abortion is sacred. It’s worth killing future football stars and opera singers if it means killing future sex-offenders.
Andrea Buchanan wrote, “Tiller, like Tebow, was a devout Christian, and he never missed a Sunday service.”
After the Lutheran Church – Missouri Synod excommunicated Mr. Tiller because he continued to murder people, Mr. Tiller didn’t repent and seek forgiveness. Rather, he joined the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, whose welcome of him (without his repentance) would seem to demonstrate that their true allegiance is to Satan.
To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said (John 8:31), “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples… [Y]ou are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God… Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!”
Vanity Post IS a crappy magazine — full of ads for overpriced “luxury” items probably made in some sweatship somewhere, celebrity gossip, and endless elitist ‘we’re-better-than-those-hicks-in-the-flyover-states-and-Sarah-Palin-is-a-joke type of articles.
What amazes me about all the opposition to the ad is that the author hasn’t even SEEN it.
I don’t like to go around quoting bible verses, but Ms. Buchanan reminds me of the verse that says “why do the heathen rage . . .”
Why don’t prochoicers ever take their philosophies all the way to their logical conclusions? All those reasons they have for supporting abortion if applied to the slaughter of orphanages and group homes for the disabled, would be horrifically appalling. It’s easier to turn a blind eye to the killing of infants because the womb has no window to the public.
If you would not support the dismemberment of a deformed child or a child conceived in rape, then why do you support the dismemberment of a fetus (Latin for offspring, young one), an infant?
This is eugenics and a grave evil.
Sad. Such people are so caught up in the evil they defend that they have embraced this hate in exchange for understanding reality.
and those comments that mentioned the racist Margaret Sanger deserve a “thumbs up” for reminding us of one of the biggest perpetrators of this hatred.
“The myriad of choices.”
The author should have called these “choices”:
“The myriad of excuses for aborting”
There are so many people who dedicate their lives to helping women with unwanted pregnancies! When a baby has medical problems, the pregnant mother should find a pro-life doctor (not one who will advocate abortion) for a second opinion! The mentality in this country that abortion is a valid solution to a problem needs to be eradicated. Fortunately, as the pro-abort generation ages, the numbers of pro-lifers will rise. That’s awesome.
“I would show them shouting “baby killer” and “devil worshiper,” and depict images of them throwing holy water on the women who are attempting to walk through the doors and see a doctor. I would cast the commercial starting with the anti-Tebows: the unattractive, the unfit, the look of stark raving mad….”
Hilarious.
Rather than come up with a logical advertisement, Buchanan gives a lesson in how to construct a visual strawman and use propaganda. Very revealing. She basically says that step one is to lie about opponents, in this case visually. I bet she could write a book on propaganda. The funniest part is that she is basically telling readers that she intentionally misrepresents things to her audience. Rather than say she would go out and film and interview actual pro-life people in order to discredit them, she freely admits she would have actors pretend to be pro-lifers and then would go on to discredit the fake folks. How could any reader trust a writer who explains to them how she lies to them? How stupid does she think her audience is?
“The View’s Joy Behar said that Tim Tebow could have “easily become some kind of a rapist pedophile.”
Actually highly unlikely. Criminality is heritable. With zero criminals in a family tree and no undesirable environmental factors, the likelihood is near to that of winning the lottery. Statistically zero, although not numerically zero.
Um, has she ever been to an abortion clinic with sidewalk counselors? If so, she would know that we don’t yell “baby killer!” or throw holy water on anyone.
She can make her commercial however she wants, but she shouldn’t pretend that her delusions represent reality.
Hey Jill,
For the Suggestion Box, an idea for the Weekend Question:
What would your ideal Pro-life ad look like?
That should get the creative juices flowing.
Something to talk about during the Super Bowl.
Hey, Ed, I love it.
My ideal pro-life add would be akin to that PBS special about fetal development from way back when. It would be narrated in first person from the child’s point of view. It would just show photos and ultrasounds from conception to birth with facts about fetal development and end with a nursing baby then finally a laughing toddler saying, “I love you, Mommy”. Then full screen “Choose Life” with a chorus of children’s voices saying choose life.
Wow Hippie, that didn’t take long!
I love your ad too!
If Jill decides to do it, she could then forward the responses to Focus, or any other PL organization planning an ad campaign.
I’ve got a myriad of possibilies floating around in my head ranging from ads with a beautiful, celebratory theme like yours to ads that would require a warning on the front end.
There was a young Hispanic man at The Call Crisis down in Houston last month who wrote a poem which, like you suggested, was in the first person of an unborn child – powerful.
I tried to find it on the web again but couldn’t. Maybe I (or someone else) will come across it and can share it later.
She is sooooo wrong. They don’t throw holy water-they throw rosaries. And they don’t scream ‘devil worshiper’, they scream ‘The blood of millions of innocents should not be shed-don
‘t do it!’ Details. Why is it so hard for her and ther pro-aborts to accuratly show those details?
I have actually witnessed that during the monthy stand and pray I used to do at Planned Parenthood. Among other incivilities. Thankfully its only been one or three prayer protestors who do this.
But she makes a well constructed arguement in the last portion of the article, one that would be an excellent challenge to debate. I can appreciate that from pro-choice people when they do make challenging and logical arguements, because lately all I’ve been faced with are morons who scream ‘choice, choice, CHOICE, haters, raciests, anti-women!!!’ like broken records on replay.
Maligning the righteous is a trait of those described in Romans 1:28-32, specifically at verse 29. God is giving/has given many in America over to a reprobate mind as a result of a weak American church that has lost focus on her/our commission to preach the gospel of reconcilliation to this lost and dying world.
“Criminality is heritable. With zero criminals in a family tree and no undesirable environmental factors, the likelihood is near to that of winning the lottery. Statistically zero, although not numerically zero.” (Posted by: hippie at February 5, 2010 10:28 AM)
God’s word states that we are all wicked at heart and only God’s striving spirit prevents us from behaving in our naturally depraved state (c.f. Genesis 6:3,5-6). Better re-check those stats and source, hippie, as I see they were uncited.
My ideal pro life ad?
Showing the faces of babies adopted by their parents. Down syndrome babies smiling or laughing. A little Haitian girl meeting Cinderella or Snow White at Disney World or Disney Land. That sort of thing. And then at the end, the words “Thank You Mom for Choosing LIFE!” Perhaps even show Melissa Gilbert as Laura Ingalls from “Little House on the Prairie”. Both her and her sister Sara (of “Roseanne” fame) were adopted.
I remember a Pro Life ad from the late 80s or early 1990s….the narrator was talking about her abortion and how her child would have been “Eleven this Spring”. I can’t remember the whole ad, but it ended with “Life, what a Beautiful Choice”….
I think this was before “Silent No More” began or before it was a really well known.
Ted, I understand your feelings. However, heritability of criminality has been thoroughly researched and documented. This is one study, but there are hundreds easily found on a simple google search. Facts like these naturally make people uncomfortable, but facing the truth is still better than pretending things aren’t the way they really are. I remember the first time I heard that there were over a million abortions a year. That was a fact I didn’t want to believe.
http://www.personalityresearch.org/papers/jones.html
hippie: “Facts like these naturally make people uncomfortable, but facing the truth is still better than pretending things aren’t the way they really are.”
Ted: Agreed, and God’s very word will attest to this: “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes…For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.”
The prescribed role heredity plays in sinful behavior is given in Romans, again, this time in chapter 5: “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned”.
Neither your claim, cite, nor the truth support the sophistic claim you are promoting unless you define heredity as being in the hereditary line of Adam and Eve.
What a stupid ad you would write. Full of stereotypes (oh, yes, “ALL PROLIFER SUPPORT MURDERING DOCTORS” -very intelligent). If this is the only way you can make your argument, no wonder people are leaving your cause.
Read some of the comments in response to her article on the website. Wow. Especially the one signed ‘DuVergne’. Unbelievable how IGNORANT some people are. It’s kind of funny how the pro-aborts want women to make ‘informed choices’, yet they are some of the most UNINFORMED people when it comes to development of a pre-born baby, complications from abortion, etc.
Stephanie, you must be talking about the “racist, sexist, anti-gay” chant. Uh well, let me see, I have gay friends and relatives, my family is biracial. And about the sexist part — does that mean that I hate myself, and other women? I never could understand that one.
Ted, you may have noticed that kids look like their parents because they inherit the traits. Other than occasional mutations, 100% of what kids are is inherited. Psychological traits are also inherited. If you want to investigate the literature out there on the genetics of personality you can. And of course you are welcome to your opinion, whether or not you care to find out more about the heritability of psychological traits. Of course a person born into a fat family can choose to work out, diet and be thin, a person who inherits criminal tendencies or alcoholic tendencies can choose to do better, but it doesn’t mean he didn’t inherit the tendency. Just because no one is perfect, which is what I think you mean, does not mean that everyone is the same or has the same dispositions.
“Mr. Tiller didn’t repent and seek forgiveness. Rather, he joined the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, whose welcome of him (without his repentance) would seem to demonstrate that their true allegiance is to Satan”
This kind of religious intolerance doesn’t exactly win points for the “pro-life” cause as it positions only those religions who condemn abortion as the “true faith.” This type of narrow Inquisition mindset characterizes pro-choice religions (Episcopalian, Methodist, UCC, Unitarian, Conservative/Reform Jews) as “Satanic.” This is reminiscent of the type of thought that was responsible for Crusades, pogroms, and the Holocaust (originated by a guy who died in the arms of the Catholic church). But I conclude with a link to the ADL which strongly condemns the use of the holocaust in anti-abortion rhetoric. It also cites the anti Semiticism of a Catholic priest who disparages those Jews (the majority) who are pro-choice.
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/asus_12/3265_12.asp
And BTW, women who have abortion do so under their own free will.
For the record – I support the right of Focus on the Family to have this ad aired. As a card carrying member of the ACLU, I support the right to free speech.
Basically with PP and all those so called women rights groups, So much for being Pro- choice, as long as it is for abortion.
Basically with PP and all those so called women rights groups, So much for being Pro- choice, as long as it is for abortion.
Posted by: Pati Adams at February 5, 2010 6:18 PM
Basically with all those so called “crisis pregnancy centers” – so much for “caring” for the pregnant woman/girl, it’s all about having a baby whether it’s best for you or not. And after you leave their loving embrace, good f’nig luck. yer on yer own…
Artemis said that my “kind of religious intolerance doesn’t exactly win points for the ‘pro-life’ cause as it positions only those religions who condemn abortion as the ‘true faith.'”
Here are the words of the founder, hero, protector, and God of my religion (Matt. 7:13-29): “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!‘
“Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”
When Jesus had finished saying these things [the Sermon on the Mount], the crowds were amazed at his teaching, because he taught as one who had authority, and not as their teachers of the law.
Artemis said, “Basically with all those so called ‘crisis pregnancy centers’ – so much for ‘caring’ for the pregnant woman/girl, it’s all about having a baby whether it’s best for you or not. And after you leave their loving embrace, good luck. yer on yer own…”
Nonsense! The word crisis in “crisis pregnancy centre” would already seem to be recognition that a baby was not the best decision for the woman or girl. However, since she had already decided to have a baby–or had already been raped (and Planned Parenthood encourages statutory rape)–crisis pregnancy centres do their best to offer loving help.
It’s probably nonsense also because the expectant mother doesn’t have to “leave their loving embrace.” I only know about one such centre, but I’m 99% sure that it does its best to help the mothers get their lives back on track. It seems to me that Artemis is just engaging in more mindless slander.
Rather than our “ideal Pro-Life ad” the question should probably be phrased, “If you could design your own Pro-Life ad, what would it look like?” Or, “What would your favorite Pro-Life ad look like?”
Jill, you know how to clean up what I’m trying to say.
Rather than our “ideal Pro-Life ad” the question should probably be phrased, “If you could design your own Pro-Life ad, what would it look like?” Or, “What would your favorite Pro-Life ad look like?”
Jill, if you decide to toss out this question, you know how to clean up what I’m trying to say.
The View’s Joy Behar said that Tim Tebow could have “easily become some kind of a rapist pedophile.”
Hey Ken – I’m glad to see you’re here.
Okay, if she really did say that, stated as simply as that, then good grief! It’s hilariously off-the-mark to have that “easily” in there.
I have had enough of Tebow and the Florida Gators, though….. Never been much of an Alabama fan, but this year I say, “ROLL TIDE!”
“This kind of religious intolerance doesn’t exactly win points for the “pro-life” cause as it positions only those religions who condemn abortion as the “true faith.” This type of narrow Inquisition mindset characterizes pro-choice religions (Episcopalian, Methodist, UCC, Unitarian, Conservative/Reform Jews) as “Satanic.” This is reminiscent of the type of thought that was responsible for Crusades, pogroms, and the Holocaust (originated by a guy who died in the arms of the Catholic church). But I conclude with a link to the ADL which strongly condemns the use of the holocaust in anti-abortion rhetoric. It also cites the anti Semiticism of a Catholic priest who disparages those Jews (the majority) who are pro-choice.”
Speaking of intolerance, Artemis. . .
I’m sure you didn’t notice it, being blinded by your own hatred and all, but in the quoted material, Fr. Marx was trying to point out NOT that the people opposing abortion were Jews, but that they where “disloyal to the teachings of Judaism,” which does indeed recognize the sacredness of human life. All of the “Rabbis for Life” that I saw at this year’s March in Washington would say the very same thing. Just as many black people are now denouncing the “black genoicide” practiced by abortion, and President Obama for his acceptance of it. Jews who support abortion are selling out their faith, and I see no anti-Semitism in anyone pointing that out.
As for the comparison of abortion and the Holocaust, they are very apt. Anyone who has spent any time at all studying the history of eugenics in Mazi Germany knows that advocacy of weeding out the “unfit” whether because of illness, handicap or race, was being advocated by the brightest and best among the medical community in the 20’s, which would entail some people being declared non-persons in order to kill them, just like unborn children. Margaret Sanger and the eugenics movement were hand in glove. All this was long before Hitler came to power.
Speaking of Hitler, though he was baptized a Catholic, he was never on record as having practiced his faith as an adult, in fact, advocated the worship of the pagan god Wotan. In 1932, the whole German Catholic episcopate gathered at Fulda, declared that anyone who joined the Nazi party was excommunicated. I’ll just take a stab in the dark and guess that this included the party’s leader and founder too. Hitler neither asked for nor received confession or last rites before he shot himself in 1945, and since he committed suicide, he would have been ineligible for a Catholic funeral Mass or Catholic burial. Just what part of all this is consonant with “dying in the arms of the Catholic Church”?
No, you do not get a pass for your ignorant anti-Catholic bigotry because you were “raised Catholic.” I had some hope a few days ago that you could act on this board like a rational adult. Guess I was wrong.
“Mr. Tiller didn’t repent and seek forgiveness. Rather, he joined the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, whose welcome of him (without his repentance) would seem to demonstrate that their true allegiance is to Satan”
Artemis said:
“This kind of religious intolerance doesn’t exactly win points for the “pro-life” cause as it positions only those religions who condemn abortion as the “true faith.”
Actually this kind of statement of religious confidence indicates that the speaker is not seeking the approval of people rather he believes his statement demonstrates his obedience to his faith and its requirement that he call out such behavior as being contrary to the religion’s requirements.
I’m sorry. I really don’t want to stoop to the level of pro aborts, but I must for a moment!! I was watching some female comedian on Comedy Central last month, and she suddenly began ranting about how pro-life women were unnatractive and would never have to worry about an unplanned pregnancy! I had to LOL, as this woman was a far cry from even being somewhat attractive herself!!! Besides that, had she done her homework, she would have realized that a huge and growing number of PL women have had abortions! I had to laugh at her total ignorance!
Someone might also want to tell this writer that MOST abortions are done on women who have plenty of money but choose not to parent. Also, the abortion industry hasn’t done any rape or incest victims any favors. It’s actually helped the sick person comitting the act. Have sex with the girl, get her an abortion, presto, the crime is covered up and the girl is returned to her circumstances without help. There she is. Free to be revictimized all over again!! 4000 abortions a day in the USA. Are we talkin 4000 homeless women and rape/incest victims? Nice try, but I think not!