Carville on CNN: “The nurse that brought up this thing was actually fired”
That would be me.
Last night on CNN’s The Situation Room, Barack Obama’s hostility toward IL’s Born Alive Infants Protection Act came up again, this time in a discussion of his opposition to the Partial Birth Abortion Ban:
This is the 2nd time James Carville has ducked discussion of Obama’s opposition to Born Alive in favor of taking a swipe at me. Carville was obviously unprepared on June 30 for a debate on the merits of Born Alive, but almost 3 weeks later he still has had no time or an intern to do some really easy research?
Two points…
That would be me.
I’m not wounded by this. I’m used to it (discrediting attempts or name-calling has never bothered me, actually), it’s how politics goes. And I expected personal attacks when getting too close to Obama’s soft spot – with many more to come. Talking about me means they’re being forced to talk about Born Alive. Hurrah for that. But I do get ticked that they weasel out of discussing the actual issue.
I’ll save Carville’s smear of McCain on the Viagra/contraception issue for another post.
A transcript of the aforementioned video is below.
Thanks to a special blogger friend for capturing the CNN clip.
[HT: reader Valerie M.]
Transcript of CNN segment, July 17, 2008, on Obama and the Partial Birth Abortion and Born Alive Bans:
BLITZER: There was something very interesting, different for John McCain. Even though he’s got a longstanding, virtually perfect record as far as opposing abortion, he rarely raises the issue himself.
But, today, he did. And I want you to listen to what he had to say.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MCCAIN: He voted against a ban on partial-birth abortions. My friends, that’s a hideous procedure. It should never be allowed anyplace on Earth.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That’s right.
(APPLAUSE)
MCCAIN: Now, that’s a great difference, it’s a great difference between — between the two of us. And you can count on my active advocacy for the rights of the unborn.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLITZER: All right, James, what do you think?
CARVILLE: Well, first of all, to be fair to Senator Obama is that he supports a ban on partial-birth, but that has health-of-the- mother exception.
The Republicans — Senator McCain doesn’t support having birth control pills as part of health insurance, while he supports having Viagra as part of health insurance. He opposes equal pay. This is a consistent — a consistent Bush/McCain view. And, so, Senator Obama does support the ban. He wants a health-of-the-mother exception.
BLITZER: Are you surprised he went — went out of his way to raise this issue today?
CASTELLANOS: No, I don’t think so, because Senator Obama, we actually don’t know what he supports, because in the Senate in Illinois, there was a bill that says, you know, a child out of the womb who had, I think — quote — “a beating heart” should be protected.
Senator Obama first voted present, which was not a very courageous vote, and then he voted no. And that’s not pro-choice or pro-life. That’s just an extreme position. And, so, right now, like on a lot of other things, we just don’t know where Barack Obama stands.
CARVILLE: Yes. We have talked about that before. The nurse that brought up this thing was actually fired from the hospital. There’s a lot of controversy in that.
I think Senator Obama’s been very clear that, with the health-of- the-mother exception, that he would support a ban on the so-called partial birth abortion.
BLITZER: All right. We will leave it — we will leave it right there.
This is a major difference, the whole issue of abortion, between these two presidential candidates.
Guys, thanks for coming in.
CARVILLE: Thank you.



That James Carville character wasn’t fired after his moronically embarrassing performance last time this was discussed? They brought him BACK to discuss the SAME issue? CNN must really be strapped for talent or something…
How does his wife put up with him? That’s what I want to know. :o(
That’s a really pathetic performance by Spin Doctor Carville. He totally lied his way out of giving a straight answer. And to try to use a jab at “that nurse who got fired” to fill time and avoid a real response was simply idiotic. Was he advising Hillary during the primaries? That could explain a lot.
You crack me up Bobby!
LOL-that was pathetic, Carville.
A classic case of dodging the question.
I realize the encounter with Obama many years ago was Jill’s 15 minutes of fame, but isnt’t this like the 20th post on the same subject matter?
” The IL Born Alive act passed 8 months later making me (Jill) irrelevant…”
I think it (and the passage of the federal law) made the entire subject irrelevant.
The assertions about Obama’s support of “infanticide” have been proven false and don’t improve with constant repetition.
Sorry, read that “dodging the issue.”
LTL, not that I want to dwell on my 15 minutes, but Obama was not even a spot on my linguistic horizon until he ran for US Senator in 2004. Then the chatter died down again until 2006. Before, after, and meanwhile I was plunking and talking away on the Born Alive issue in general as well as abortion. After he’s elected – or not – I’ll still be here.
I was surprised when I did a search on World Net Daily the other day that I didn’t even write a column on Obama until July 2006.
You all are being pretty hard on Carville, but you gotta admit he did a good job in the ‘Lord of the Rings’ movies.
“that nurse”
Well there are worse things to be called.
Maybe you could get your own tv show – Jill remember “That Girl”?
Doug, lol
HILARIOUS, Doug!
That Girl theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9rapJrbNRA&feature=related
That Nurse!
(starring Jill Stanek, MK, Bobby Bambino & Bethany as Special Prosecutor)
You could out abortionists, crummy proabort politicians (at least 3 seasons for this one), abortuary construction contractors…..
lol Doug. Yes those clips of Carville were done before the Quest of the Fellowship which caused him to lose some weight….
Seriously though, Doug, if CNN would have just pulled you off the street and not even told you what the topic was, and then have been like “go”, you would have done 10x better than Gollum Carville.
Thanks Doug – I just spewed my screen with coffee!
“The assertions about Obama’s support of “infanticide” have been proven false and don’t improve with constant repetition.”
Uh, no they haven’t, in fact they have been proven true. Unless you think you can prove us wrong.
Janet,
I have always wondered the same thing. Not to get too personal, but how does she wake up every morning next to that guy and not go eeeeekkkkk!!
They are so politically opposed it is hard to understand how their relationship works.
They are so politically opposed it is hard to understand how their relationship works.
Posted by: Sandy at July 18, 2008 5:15 PM
Maybe neither of them actually believe half the things they say.
I realize the encounter with Obama many years ago was Jill’s 15 minutes of fame, but isnt’t this like the 20th post on the same subject matter?
” The IL Born Alive act passed 8 months later making me (Jill) irrelevant…”
I think it (and the passage of the federal law) made the entire subject irrelevant.
The assertions about Obama’s support of “infanticide” have been proven false and don’t improve with constant repetition.
Posted by: LTL at July 18, 2008 4:11 PM
Gee LTL,
I think the name of the last time I checked name on the the blog was Pro-Life Pulse by Jill Stanek. Get bored with the topic, don’t read the thread.
The media is obviously proving that this subject is far from irrelevant. Jill has every right to post on it. I find the continuing spin facinating.
About the only way Obama can attempt to wiggle off the hook on this issue is by denial and obfuscation. Carville served up a generous portion of both. Look for a lot more of the same in the next 100 days.
Did anyone else notice that when the second guy talked about born alive, Carville responded about partial birth.
I’m not sure how many people realize that these are two different issues. It’s not the first time I’ve seen this happen.
It reminds me of the stem cell controversy. A lot of people don’t realize that there’s two different kinds of stem cells.
Doug,
WOW! Normally, I don’t like to make fun of peoples looks, but Gollum/Carville…creepy.
Hey MK!
I thought the same thing. Maybe Carville doesn’t even know the differences. He sure seems uninformed about the subject.
Also, I think I have heard Mary Matalin make a public comment that her husband does look like a serpent.
Yes those clips of Carville were done before the Quest of the Fellowship which caused him to lose some weight….
Ha! Right on, Patricia.
We all age, holy moly don’t I know that myself, but lately Carville is just so…..
MK: Normally, I don’t like to make fun of peoples looks, but
now you’re really hot….
:: lighting campfire under MK ::
LTL: The assertions about Obama’s support of “infanticide” have been proven false and don’t improve with constant repetition.
Right – Obama was fine with protecting born babies. It was other stuff in the bills that were his objections.
Doug,
I give, I give. I closed the windows and turned the air on…
Good Lord, you make one little comment about being warm…
How in the world did this business about MK being hot actually CHANGE from one thread to another? It started on a different thread and has now moved to this one!
Bobby,
I made the original comment because I had been behaving out of character…I was getting a bit snarky on a post…
Just now, I joined in the fray, and had a laugh at Carvilles expense.
Doug was just pointing out that perhaps I was still hot…
Now Sally will comment on my sex appeal and SoMG will enquire how “tall I am…” and well…
Listen Doug,
The first new episode of Monk is going to be on, followed by the first new episode of Psych, and I missed all of last seasons because of Lent…
I feel a case of sillies building and I WILL NOT BE DIVERTED! Have Mercy…!
“That James Carville character wasn’t fired after his moronically embarrassing performance last time this was discussed? They brought him BACK to discuss the SAME issue?”
Yea Bobby, he’s still clueless….
….or it could be that he is playing dumb and just wants to muddle the issue, because he knows their side is wrong. Divert attention from it, like the lady that Bill Bennet was debating with.
SoMG, seriously, that was vulgar and disgusting. Martin Gardner would not be impressed.
Bobby B, I don’t know anything about Martin Gardner’s sexuality. I was a little kid when I met him.
I feel a case of sillies building and I WILL NOT BE DIVERTED! Have Mercy…!
MK, I hear you on the sillies. I was going to keep being a brat and say that I was going to go in your kitchen and turn all the burners on high – that way you’d have a nice hot stove to slave over.
But I won’t do it now.
If you don’t mind the discrediting and name calling Jill then why did you ban Laura?
what are you talking about Jess?
Whenever I see Carville now- I keep remembering that scene in “Old School” where Carville gets totally pwn’d by Will Farrell in a debate.
Doug, you wrote: “I was going to go in your kitchen and turn all the burners on high – that way you’d have a nice hot stove to slave over.”
Groucho Marx to Margaret Dumont: “Married! I can see you now, in the kitchen, bending over a hot stove. But I can’t see the stove!”
Hi Rae,
do you have your nice shoes on today?
@Jasper: Nice shoes?
*is confused*
oh, I just meant if you were nice today, you know, not mean… :)
Uhhhhh…
Me? Not being mean? Is that possible? :-)
yes, of course.
I guess I have been rather pissy as of late haven’t I…
*cough*
Doug: I was going to keep being a brat and say that I was going to go in your kitchen and turn all the burners on high – that way you’d have a nice hot stove to slave over.
Cooking yourself for dinner, you little brat? :)
Great pic, MK !
“Oh what a world…what a world…”
I would love it if someone could take that photo and put Tiller’s face in place of the witch, but still with the hat, the grren skin, the caption, etc.
oops, am I being snarky?
Great Blog!!!
SoMG, SoMG, SoMG,
What are we gonna do with you? Keep it up and you’re going to get yourself banned. The bad little boy in you is seriously seeking attention…
I know I said that you’d transferred you anger at your mom over to Jill, but I didn’t realize there was also an oedipal component to your fixation.
While I’m not surprised by the S & M, I am surprised at the heterosexual aspect. Ah well, perhaps “who” is not important. Once you dehumanize people, I guess it’s no great leap to desexualize them also.
Keep it up tho. You’re just making our case for us. Once you sere your conscience in one area, the rest is not far behind.
I’ll be stopping by the chapel today. Rest assured I’ll be having a long talk with Him about you.
Actually, I realize that I’m not really speaking to “SoMG”. I’m speaking to the legion of demons that have attached themselves to you. SoMG, if you’re in there and can hear me…fight! You can do this. You don’t have to give in to them. We’re pullin’ for you buddy! May God have Mercy on your soul.
Just reach out your hand, my friend. There’s a boatload of people here, just waiting for the signal. You really aren’t alone anymore…
I would love it if someone could take that photo and put Tiller’s face in place of the witch, but still with the hat, the grren skin, the caption, etc.
How about it Cranky Catholic???
I can no longer visit this thread. Gollum Carville is going to give me nightmares. Thank you Doug. :)
Hi Rae!
I am going to send you an e-mail. This summer has been toooooooo busy and going by tooooooo fast.
I am heading out to the MOA today.
Check your e-mail. Maybe we can hook up???
SoMG, I’m currently working on a production of Szymanowski’s Krol Roger. I’ve been listening to them rehearsing all week and thinking of you! I’m really looking forward to seeing it performed.
SoMG, I’m currently working on a production of Szymanowski’s Krol Roger. I’ve been listening to them rehearsing all week and thinking of you! I’m really looking forward to seeing it performed.
Alexandra, do you really consider SOMG to be a person that you’d like to chat with? SOMG, who thinks that a girl talking about how a man molested her, is a funny joke to laugh about? SOMG, who calls women he dislikes the “c” word? Do you really want to associate as friends with someone like that? And did you see the post he made yesterday towards Jill (that has since been deleted, of course)? I don’t understand, Alexandra…do you really want to associate yourself with such a person?
Just a note, it’s strange to me that I didn’t hear anyone on the pro-abortion side debating SOMG about his 10:08 post? If Jasper or Hisman had posted the same thing, I can imagine at least 6-7 different people who would have said something. Why is SOMG immune to this?
By the way, SOMG, in case you haven’t been informed yet..you’re banned for 2 weeks from this blog. You may have already been notified on another thread.
For Marykay:

LOL TOO FUNNY !!!!
It is BRILLIANT !
Very good, Bethany!
Thanks!! :D
Bethany —
A love of opera is one of the only personal things SoMG has shared on this site, and it’s something we have in common. I don’t really worry too much about whether or not I’m ‘associating’ with the right people. If someone who says awful things also says things I can relate to, then I will disagree with the awful things and relate to the relatable things.
I suppose I should not talk to people who say things I find abhorrent or immature, but then I wouldn’t have ever posted at this site at all in the first place. I don’t like when people call women sluts or harass private citizens at their homes, but I choose to disagree on those points and engage in discussion anyway. And I know I’ve gotten something out of posting here, even if no one else has gotten anything out of me posting here. Maybe I will get nothing out of conversing with SoMG other than a recommendation for a great recording of some opera or another, but even if that’s the only thing either of us gets, I think it’s worth it — and there’s a possibility for so much more than that.
I didn’t click on SoMG’s link because I thought it probably had nothing to do with anything and was probably purely for shock value, and I wasn’t in the mood for it last night.
Alexandria, I truly meant no offense… I just was very surprised- well, almost shocked to see your recent post to him. Especially after what he’s been doing and saying to people the last couple of days. You seemed to be holding him in a high regard, for some reason. Even with your pro-abortion position, I still can’t understand that, because I think of you as better than that- I understand not ignoring those you disagree with just because you disagree, but I saw this as much different than just being tolerant. I hope you understand what I’m trying to say. I do not consider SOMG simply immature. His problems are much worse than that. And I think – hope – you know what I mean.
SoMG,
The off-topic comment was deleted.
See you in two weeks.
MK,
Prayer and fasting, love, prayer and fasting.
And as out Lady of Fatima said, penance, penance, penance.
SOMG, who calls women he dislikes the “c” word? ”
At least he didn’t call his wife that, like a certain republican presidential candidate
Hal: Does SoMG have a wife?
At least he didn’t call his wife that
How would you possbly know, Hal?
Maybe Hal and SoMG are the same person.
Oh please Mike- Hal is a nice guy, SoMG is just…”speshul” for lack of a better term.
Oops Anon 8:44 was me. I was on a different computer!
SoMG,
If you want to plead your case, you should email us.
Whether or not you actually called Jill anything isn’t the point. You’re far too smart not to realize this.
The only reason you’re not banned totally is that some of us think you’re worth the effort.
I suppose an apology for behaving like an adolescent boy might help.
The S & M picture sure didn’t help your case either.
Seriously, what were you trying to accomplish???
Hal,
John McCain is not a poster here. Obviously, we can’t control what he says.
SoMG on the other hand is a poster here. And he used language twice that is inappropriate for this forum, and posted a picture that could be seen as a physical threat. (If we were the paranoid types).
If John McCain WAS a poster here, and had called his wife or anyone else those words, we’d have given him a timeout too.
Seriously Hal, you’re not defending what he did. And you’re not asking us to defend what John McCain did either, are you? Cuz that would be crazy talk!
Janet, I wasn’t serious. My bad.
Mike 1:46:Janet, I wasn’t serious. My bad.
Did you mean to direct that to Rae (9:37:)?
yes, sorry !
Mike, No problema!
Bobby,
I made the original comment because I had been behaving out of character…I was getting a bit snarky on a post…
Just now, I joined in the fray, and had a laugh at Carvilles expense.
Doug was just pointing out that perhaps I was still hot…
Now Sally will comment on my sex appeal and SoMG will enquire how “tall I am…” and well…
Posted by: mk at July 18, 2008 6:58 PM…….
…………….
Honey honey honey! You are flirting with a cyber man. And flirting you are.
He descimates your PL position while flattering your ego. It’s a bit frightening how you eat it up. What is your co-dependency?
Better yet Sally, what’s YOURS ???
Ask your doctor about anti-depressants and mood elevators…
Mike,
LOL.
Sally,
The fact that I rile your feathers so much, tells me that I’ve hit a nerve. However, while I understand that you’re upset, what I don’t understand is that post! lol
Who is it I’m flirting with? Bobby? Doug? You? I’m sooooo confused.
You’re too funny. Seriously, you make me smile.
Cyber man. That’s a good one.
Gollum Carville is going to give me nightmares. Thank you Doug. :)
Carla, you didn’t like that made-up picture of the human/pig cross either….
Just a note, it’s strange to me that I didn’t hear anyone on the pro-abortion side debating SOMG about his 10:08 post?
Bethany, where the heck is it? I’d debate if there was something I disgreed with.
Dear Doug,
I have issues.
Doug, it’s since been deleted, but it was a slam against Muslims.
CNN must be desperate for warm bodies to fill their screen. Dodgeball must be Carville’s favorite game !