The truth about Obama
Spotted this at the Abortion Gallery and got permission to post…
Did you vote for Obama? Your vote got us more of that. Deal with it.
Nov.17, 2008 12:46 pm |
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maybe the abortion rate will go down. Will Obama be your hero then?
Hal, will Jill be your hero if abortion goes down? I heard a great talk from her on the radio this morning.
If Jill finds a way to reduce abortion rates without restricting the rights of women who want abortions, then sure, she’d be my hero. If she wants to accomplish that by denying women their right to terminate pregnancies, then no.
Hal, we don’t want the abortion rate to simply go down. We want it to go to zero.
Under what context, do you propose, that whether or not an action he takes will decrease abortions would ever enter his mind? Why would he care? To him, it’s like decreasing the number appendectomies in America.
If abortion does go down during the next term (and it very well may thanks to a great multitude of factors), it will NOT be because of Obama.
PS: If FOCA passes, I guarantee that the down-trend of the last decade and a half will end.
What the heck. Obama isn’t even in office yet. Everyone on here is talking about all the promises he made and how he won’t keep any of them except the promise he made to kill lots of babies.. (which, I never really heard him say.)
Josephine, you’re absolutely right.
Josephine, no pro-abort says “We want to kill lots of babies.” They don’t even view them as human beings, but sub-human POCs.
This is what Obama said about the FOCA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf0XIRZSTt8
Hal,
How on earth do you see Nobama having any influence on the reduction of the abortion rate.
That whole notion is a fallacy. He garnered millions of dollars from abortion rights supporters. He now owes them to make sure they keep their pockets full of money at the expense of our children.
He’s a pathetic liar that you all think is going to transform this world into a better place.
“He’s a pathetic liar that you all think is going to transform this world into a better place.”
If he’s such a liar, I guess you don’t know what he’ll do for the pro-choicers once he’s in office?
Josephine, Obama told Planned Parenthood in July, 2007 that the first thing he would do if he became president would be to sign the so-called “Freedom of Choice” Act. If enacted and enforced, the result will be killing even more babies, endangering even more of their mothers, and nazifying/corrupting the medical profession even more than it was by Roe v. Wade and other factors.
It will supersede & strike down all existing laws putting restrictions on induced abortion, (parental consent, informed consent, waiting periods, health regulations on killing centers, etc.). It will also remove any statutes requiring that such abortions be done by licensed physicians. (So, all you borties, how’s that again about coathangers, back alleys, etc., ad nauseam???) Now that’s a damned if you do and damned it you don’t matter if I ever heard of one. Requiring that abortions be performed by licensed physicians corrupts the medical profession, turning them into killers; it also buttresses the lie that abortion is safe if the killer has a medical degree. On the other hand, allowing non-physicians to perform abortions could bite the borties in the butt, since I expect that many women who may consider abortion may not consider it safe under those circumstances, so in a backhanded, totally unintentional sort of way, some women and children may actually be saved by that.
Many, however, would not; and one cannot help wonder how the Obamas would respond were one of their daughters, carefully taught to view crisis pregnancies as “punishment”, were to become pregnant, get an abortion by either a non-physician or one of the cream-of-the-medical-crap licensed MD abortion profiteers, and then end up maimed, disabled (yes, it does happen) or dead…and, of course, without their knowledge.
Who would they sue for damages, especially if she were to end up like Suzanne Logan, who was confined to a wheelchair and spent the rest of her short life in a nursing home as a result of a botched “safe & legal” abortion she had in her twenties? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……
“Josephine, Obama told Planned Parenthood in July, 2007 that the first thing he would do if he became president would be to sign the so-called “Freedom of Choice” Act. If enacted and enforced, the result will be killing even more babies, endangering even more of their mothers, and nazifying/corrupting the medical profession even more than it was by Roe v. Wade and other factors.”
You don’t know if either of those things will happen. Maybe everyone should hold off on the complaining about something that hasn’t happened, and may not happen.
He’s a pathetic liar that you all think is going to transform this world into a better place.
Posted by: Sandy at November 17, 2008 2:43 PM
I sure do think the world will be a better place because Obama was elected. That’s why I voted for him.
We ought to make a list of posters here who will admit to voting for Obama now, and compare it to those who will admit it in six months.
I’ll still have the sticker on my car Doyle.
Jill – Thanks, but a halloween is over. Obama is President! We won! Your scare tactics lost!
I have a couple of bets going that Obama will be driven out of office in scandal by May 2010. Enjoy him while you can.
If the Bush scandals didn’t make him leave office, I’m not afraid of anything Obama might do.
We ought to make a list of posters here who will admit to voting for Obama now, and compare it to those who will admit it in six months.
Posted by: Doyle at November 17, 2008 4:20 PM
That’s for sure! I’ve said before that even if Nobama was pro life I would not want him for President. His economic policies will be disasterous.
And although I believe it was Barney Frank who said he wants to see defense spending cut 25%, I have no doubt Nobama wants that too.
Can you please tell me what it is you think about Obama’s economic policies would be disastrous?
Can you please tell me what it is you think about Obama’s economic policies would be disastrous?
Josephine,
Despite Obama’s vague accusation that the current economic collapse was caused by “eight years of failed Republican policies,” the true cause is very well known.
The market collapsed this fall because of the subprime mortgage crisis, which arose because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guaranteed loans to unworthy borrowers. The Bush administration tried to regulate them as early as 2003, but Rep. Barney Frank blocked the legislation claiming that the agencies “are not facing any kind of financial crisis.” The Democrats continued repeated these lies, and the proof is on videotape.
Obama was the second biggest beneficiary of contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And he was seriously considering appointing Fannie Mae’s vice chairwoman as Attorney General.
So what’s wrong with Obama’s economic policies is that they are what led to the current recession, and he plans to continue them to destroy us further. The market knows this, and that is why it continues to sink day by day.
Dear God…..Thanks a lot. I’m going to have the brutality of that image burned in my brain for weeks now. I don’t understand the mentality of the pro-lifer who can bear to see things like that! It’s so horrible, so awful! I tear up and want to hide. I understand that you want to show people what abortion is and does, but warn people like me who can’t take it!
For the sake of avoiding this image, I won’t be able to reply to any comments made in response to me, and I won’t be able to visit the site for like a week. >.
Sorry Laura. It is not that I can bear to see things like that either. I wait to see Obama’s face and click real fast to comments. I know where that baby is and what I don’t understand is the Pro-Choicer who looks away or dismisses that image. They support it. The president they voted for supports it. Deal with it.
I understand that this is a prolife site.. and I am prolife also, but I do not believe that Obama thinks that “Abortion” is wonderful and great… This image is true.. yes, but putting his face on it… Come on.. that is just stupid. He is a man with a wonderful family, we know that abortion supporters are supporting the Pro-Choice for other reasons..not because they want to kill their children. That tactic doesn’t work.
But what is abortion if not the killing of children whether one “wants” it or not? Obama supports abortion, the rolling back of all restrictions on it, voted against BAIPA etc. etc. etc. the result of all of the prochoice speak is dead children and wounded women.
His wonderful family is not relevant to his stance on abortion and infanticide.
Why are prochoicers supporting abortion? What are the other reasons?
Why are prochoicers supporting abortion? What are the other reasons?
Carla, in a nutshell I’d say because they feel that each woman should be free to continue or end a pregnancy as they see fit (to viability or other point in gestation, usually).
Obama does think that abortion is wonderful and great. The youtube post that I linked to earlier proves that–he fully supports PP’s agenda. The fact that he speaks so zealously on behalf of abortion makes me believe that he indeed does think it is a good thing.
Also, regarding being a family man and a supporter of abortion–there are many of those. Some have even aided in the killing of their own unborn children. Many of these people are either in a state of disassociation or compartmentalization. It makes me think of that trailer I saw for the new movie, “Boy in the Striped Pajamas.” The little boy’s father is a “good family man” who is in charge of a concentration camp. The boy finds out and has great difficulty reconciling the two.
How do we think abortionists can do what they do every day and then go home to their families? If THEY can disassociate or compartmentalize what they do, then why not the senators and members of Congress, who do not have first-hand experience performing abortions, but vote to allow them to continue unhindered?
Jonna 8:06am
Maybe someone should ask Obama which of his two beautiful daughters he would have disposed of in this manner.
OH Doug,
Do you honestly think I don’t know your answers by now? :) Or that you don’t know mine, for that matter.
Not going there today, man.
Thanks for your concise answer, Raving Athiest
Raving Atheist 10:42PM
Barney Frank. That clown. What do you expect from a guy who didn’t know his boyfriend was running a prostitution ring in his(Barney’s) own house?
Maybe someone should ask Obama which of his two beautiful daughters he would have disposed of in this manner.
Posted by: Mary at November 18, 2008 9:54 AM
maybe neither. I think he’s quite happy with his beautiful daughters.
Hal 11:36am
I suppose their father being happy with them makes their lives more valuable and worthy. If he wasn’t happy with one or both of them would disposing of them in this way been acceptable? If Obama has no problem with abortion, then which one of his beautiful daughters would he say should have been aborted? How about you Hal, if one of these girls was an inconvenience, should she have been hacked up like the baby in the photo?
Hal do you remember the last time we had a Dem in the white house that did not GET IMPEACHED?
Alex wants the abortion rate to go down to zero. But this will never happen, unless we find a way to prevent ALL unwanted pregnancies and there no emergency pregnancies which would threaten a woman’s life. Forget it.
This is an absolute impossibility. Abortion has existed for thousands of years and always will. When the government orders pregnant women to bear children against their will it never works . Women will seek and obtain abortions whether they are legal or not; you cannot escape this fact.
And the Bush administration is responsible for the deaths of an enormous number of poor pregnant women because of its obtuse refusal of aid to poor countries which would otherwise allow abortion. Many unborn children died anyway.
Obama does not advocate infanticide; he is opposed to laws which would interfere with a woman’s right to choose an abortion.
He is not responsible for the death of a single person, born or unborn. His reproductive health policies will save many lives.
Hal do you remember the last time we had a Dem in the white house that did not GET IMPEACHED?
Posted by: xppc at November 18, 2008 2:40 PM
Yes, I remember. Carter, right?
Soon Obama.
Do you remember the last Repub in the White House that wasn’t a total failure?
I’ve got to say, I’m pro-life, and I’m sure a lot of people on here can agree there is a big difference between having an abortion.. and having grown kids and picking which one of them you would have aborted. Obviously neither, because he had them. … Duh?
Do you remember the last Repub in the White House that wasn’t a total failure?
Hal, in thinking of Bush Sr., did he really do that badly? At the time I thought that Saddam should have been taken out, but that Presidency is fading from memory comparitively fast.
Tell you what – I think that during his first two years, Ronald Reagan did a good job. After that, there was re-election coming up, and he caved in on a few things and ran up the debt something fierce, but those first two years were pretty good IMO.
Back to the graphic in the blog post. Pretty brutal, but it’s already been proven that that “abortion” photo and others on that site are fake.
Show me the proof of the fake abortion photos please.
http://www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org/truth_about_photos.html
Carla, I’ve tried a couple times to post this, but I think it keeps getting deleted.