Janet Napolitano’s priorities
This can’t wait until Sunday, by Rick McKee at the Augusta Chronicle…
From the Associated Press, November 8, following is the Obama administration’s focus following the terrorist attack at Ft. Hood. I’m sure had the shooter been a deranged pro-lifer Napolitano would be working with pro-life groups to protect our community from backlash. I’m sure….
The US Homeland Security secretary says she is working to prevent a possible wave of anti-Muslim sentiment after the shootings at Ft. Hood in TX.
Janet Napolitano says her agency is working with groups across the United States to try to deflect any backlash against American Muslims following Thursday’s rampage by Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim who reportedly expressed growing dismay over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The shootings left 13 people dead and 29 wounded.
Napolitano was in the United Arab Emirates on Sunday for talks with security officials and a meeting with women university students in Abu Dhabi.
What’s wrong with protecting Muslims? There’s so much backlash against them- since 9/11, there’s the stereotype that they’re all terrorists (or perhaps this extends before 9/11, but I don’t remember). Admittedly, if someone went on a rampage killing pro-lifers, it’s unlikely that anyone would care (except for pro-lifers).
The Fort Hood shooting is jus so sad. :~(
Actually, I think we should treat Muslims the same way we treated the Japanese and Germans in WWII. War is hell. Don’t like it? Don’t be part of an organization/country/institution/whatever which routinely attacks and declares war on America. Or, if you will belong to such an entity, GET OUT OF AMERICA. The safety and security of America is one of the government’s few actual jobs, and they’re too busy overstepping their bounds trying to powergrab to get even their most basic expectations right. I don’t know about everyone else, but I’m ready to clean house at this point.
Vannah, there really ISN’T the huge backlash. All of the so-called “backlash” is simply what is parroted by the MSM all of the time. It creates this ridiculous notion that we cannot afford to “offend” people by asking obvious questions or raising obvious issues… such as, an officer in the United States military who does powerpoint presentations about the important rationales behind suicide bombing, makes contact with al-Qaeda, and does everything but raise his hand and say, “Me, me!!! I’m a terrorist!!!”
Everyone talked about the huge “backlash” that needed to be prevented after 9/11. It didn’t happen. Mobs didn’t roam the streets killing Muslims. Muslims weren’t rounded up and thrown into camps. Yes, there were some incidents of idiots using this as an excuse for racist or bad behavior. This happens on a daily basis all over the world for all sorts of stupid reasons to all sorts of people. Heard a report today of a father who asked a group of teenagers to stop racing up and down the road who was killed by five of them using a hammer right in front of his son. Those who wish to commit violent acts will find an excuse to do so… prudent security measures in terms of preventing someone with this outspoken hatred for the U.S. military from receiving a commission IN the U.S. military would neither increase nor decrease those instances.
Do you think that Americans in Afghanistan or Iraq who are suspected of working against THEIR interests are given such treatment? Are their governments saying, “Now, let’s be reasonable and understand that we don’t want to offend Americans just because we don’t like this one.”
Heck no! In fact, you don’t even have to be doing anything to be tortured and beheaded. Simply EXISTING is enough reason!
Please, please, give us the un-edited FBI crime stats that indicate muslims in America are at a statistically significant greater risk after the Jew hating mass murderer Nidal Hassan’s act of domestic terrorism than they were before he murdered 14 people.
Where are the muslims in America huddled together in fear that they will become the objects of
an anti-muslim/arabic backlash.
From the transcript of B.O.’s weekly radio address.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/weekly-address-president-obama-extends-condolences-fort-hood-community
“We cannot fully know what leads a man to do such a thing.”
From UKPA report;
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5j5EbT5wrF9DGe73_8SKnNy7eO_Sg
“Witnesses have said they heard Hasan cry “Allahu Akbar” – Arabic for “God is great” – before opening fire at the sprawling military complex,
but senior officials
including Mr Obama
have warned against assuming that Hasan’s attack was driven by Islamist fanaticism.”
[How about drawing a proable conclusion based on the available information.?]
Copyright © 2009 The Press Association.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6526030/Fort-Hood-gunman-had-told-US-military-colleagues-that-infidels-should-have-their-throats-cut.html
Fort Hood Gunman Had Told US Military Colleagues That Infidels Should Have Their Throats Cut
By Nick Allen in Fort Hood
Published: 5:00PM GMT 08 Nov 2009
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the gunman who killed 13 at America’s Fort Hood military base, once gave a lecture to other doctors in which
he said non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats.
He also told colleagues at America’s top military hospital that
non-Muslims were infidels condemned to hell who should be set on fire.
The outburst came during an hour-long talk Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, gave on the Koran in front of dozens of other doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Centre in Washington DC, where he worked for six years before arriving at Fort Hood in July.
“We cannot fully know what leads a man to do such a thing.” B.O.
If these wackos had shot or killed B.O.’s wife or children, I beleive B.O. would not need to ‘fully know’ what made these people do it before he figured out an effective way to deal with them.
Clue to B.O.: Ask Officer Kimberly Munley.
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Maybe we should purchase a subscription to the Telegraph and the London Times for missy Napolitano. She must be lacking in intelligence.
B.O. may be a fool, but he is not dumb, there fore we can conclude that B.O. is deliberately obfuscating….again. Or in plain language B.O. is lying.
yor bro ken
The very point is that this Major was able to massacre servicemen and women because people who heard his ANTI-AMERICAN PRO-JIHAD rantings feared being branded “intolerant” more than what he might do. Do not buy into the lie of “backlash” BS. It is a sad day for our country when people are more concerned about political correctness than preserving life and protecting our military from traitorous attacks from within. And HE’S NOT THE FIRST!! http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/06/the-massacre-at-fort-hood-and-muslim-soldiers-with-attitude/
X, cleaning house is long overdue. A bit off-topic, but vets & active duty military can eat free tomorrow at Applebee’s! http://www.applebees.com/vetsday/
klynn73,
Thanks for the heads-up on the Appleby’s promotion. I’m going to forward it to my local VFW.
Thanks for the heads-up.
Oh, and when I say we need to do the same thing as we did in WWII, I mean the same THING, not the same WAY. This time it would be the right way, making certain to protect the property of those individuals. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. If we do not look back and see that internment saved American lives, things like this shooting will continue to happen. If we do not look back and see the gross mishandling of internment by those orchestrating it at the time, we will be guilty of those same crimes of theft.
We did not see missy Napolitano rushing to and fro to ensure christians were not a victim of a ‘backlash’ after one murderer murdered a high priest of mass murder in his place of worship.
When one guy having a bad hair day murdered pro-life christian, we did not see missy Napolitano running to and fro to ensure that the Dead Babies R Us crowd would not be the object of a ‘backlash’.
What is odd is that missy napolitano traveled all the way to the United Arab Emirates to ensure muslims in America were not victims of an anti-muslime backlash.
I guess neither Dead Babies R Us crowd or the Christian crowd control enough of the earth’s known oil reserves to warrant that kind of special attention from the B.O. administration or the fincancial resources to negatively influence the value of a U.S. dollar.
yor bro ken
I say: round up all these Muslims serving/enlisted in the US Armed forces and put them all together into 1 company and let them serve in combat to “prove their loyalty” to this country.
The Japanese-Amercians did in WW II and they ended up having the most number of casualties for a single unit, not to mention also being the most Decorated unit for valor and Purple hearts!
Until this happens, there is no way we can be sure this thing will never happen again.
Racial discrimination/ Religious profiling? SURE! Guess which religion the 9/11 Terrorists belong to and guess which religion the Ft. Hood shooter belongs to?
It doesn’t take a Harvard education to put 2 and 2 together…stop all this PC nonsense/ BS before more of our soldiers get killed by “friendly” fire!
*you don’t see Buddhists blowing themselves up, do you?
I…don’t even know how to answer that, RSD. What are you? Serious?
Actually, I think we should treat Muslims the same way we treated the Japanese and Germans in WWII. War is hell. Don’t like it? Don’t be part of an organization/country/institution/whatever which routinely attacks and declares war on America.
What would you suggest Americans whose parents happened to have been Japanese do, to stop “being part of an organization/country/institution/whatever” that had attacked the US in WWII? I guess they were supposed to just leave the US. And go where? “To Japan” – as US citizens who often had no personal experience of Japan at all?
I’m sure that if an atheist had blown up St. Pat’s cathedral in NYC on some gross anti-religion crusade, you would be perfectly content to mosey on down to the local church and convert to theism, or get out of the US, right? Or if maybe a couple more nut jobs kill abortion staff workers, you’ll be perfectly content to pack up to a concentration camp or forfeit your pro-life stance?
People don’t choose their religion any more arbitrarily than you have “chosen” to be atheist or pro-life. It is not a choice for you; it is what you believe. It would be absurd of anyone to expect you to just start believing in God because if you don’t you’ll be put in a concentration camp. It would be a mockery of what this country is.
I live on the same block as a Muslim community center. My neighbors lost people in the World Trade Center just like I did. The children play on my street and the parents gave me some extra pastries they had baked last year for an elementary school graduation ceremony. I would quite literally stand in between anyone who tried to forcibly remove my neighbors from their homes and cart them off to some holding camp.
What’s the problem, Vannah?
I love my country, Alexandra. If my country’s safety demanded I be subject to internment, I would do so to support her willingly. If I didn’t have 2 children to care for and a husband who need me, I’d also be first in line to sign my life away to Uncle Sam to prospectively give it up in service to my country (in an all-atheist or all-pro-life unit, as RSD brought up earlier…only problem is…I haven’t really heard of large-scale organized violence perpetrated by atheists or the pro-life community as a cohesive whole…funny how that works, right?)
And if I didn’t feel the way I do, there’s always Canada.
Vannah…when soldiers’ lives are being killed here in American soil..in our own camps..by their own so-called “comrades”…
Heck, yeah, I’m deadly serious!! The military CAN deal with this issue/ problem by themselves…
just dont let the BS politicians get in the way.
“The Japanese-Amercians did in WW II and they ended up having the most number of casualties for a single unit, not to mention also being the most Decorated unit for valor and Purple hearts!”
My dad is a huge WWII buff. When he started noticing I was fostering quite the love of all things Japanese in jr. high/high school, at first he seemed a little apprehensive. But then, one day, he started regaling me with the story of this unit, and we found that we both a.) thought it was one of the more powerful stories from the entire war, and b.) came away from it finding ourselves very proud to be American.
Being an American is not something to take for granted. People from every walk of life have sacrificed in the past and continue to sacrifice to this day to make America what it is today and keep it that way. One cannot say “Ok. We’re done sacrificing now. Everyone who wants a piece, come get some America, no strings attached!” It simply does not work that way. We must constantly adapt and struggle to keep Her great. Some groups, some people, will have to sacrifice more than others depending on which trials come about. But that does not make that group “persecuted”. It makes them that much more thankful, grateful, and proud to have what they have here in our country.
he started regaling me with the story of this unit, and we found that we both a.) thought it was one of the more powerful stories from the entire war, and b.) came away from it finding ourselves very proud to be American, *c.) full of nothing but respect and boundless admiration for those courageous Japanese-Americans.
No, X, it’s not funny. None of this is funny; it is actually quite disgusting. Does the first amendment mean nothing to you?
The US’ safety did not demand that any Japanese citizens be confined to camps, where they often lived with sub-standard facilities and educational services, while their houses and possessions – their property as US citizens – were left to the dogs, or just to their neighbors who happened to be fortunate enough to be anything other than Japanese. I am fairly certain that if your ethnic heritage or belief system were suddenly targeted for internment, you would raise HOLY HELL about it – rightly so. Lots of illegal immigrants are Mexican – why don’t we just round up all the Mexicans in the US and put them in camps, so that they can’t aid any family or friends who might be coming here illegally? Are you really comfortable putting your family’s livelihood and property and freedom on the backs of whatever whackjobs happen to identify as pro-life?
I love how people are always like, “Oh there’s always Canada.” Like Canada just takes any US citizens who don’t feel like being in the US anymore. Like Canada SHOULD take any wayward US citizens who happen to come its way. Like the presence of another civilized country that people could potentially flee to is somehow justification for the civil rights violations of a home country.
Alexandra, if the Muslim/Arab-American community within our border and around the world started handling themselves with the same dignity and courage that Japanese-Americans did during WWII, and our government took the proper steps to allow this to happen, we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now. Oh, and also, 14 people wouldn’t be dead. That’s where I think the emphasis should be, not on Muslims having hurt feelings. Give me a break. There is absolutely NO comparison between the two groups, and I’m sorry, but lost American lives > hurt feelings.
The first amendment shouldn’t protect people who are trying to bring about the fall of the country to which that constitution belongs!!! Do you not comprehend what is happening here?! And I’m pretty sure I addressed what you said in my former post, but I’ll repeat it since you’re too busy picking cherries to read:
Oh, and when I say we need to do the same thing as we did in WWII, I mean the same THING, not the same WAY. This time it would be the right way, making certain to protect the property of those individuals. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. If we do not look back and see that internment saved American lives, things like this shooting will continue to happen. If we do not look back and see the gross mishandling of internment by those orchestrating it at the time, we will be guilty of those same crimes of theft.
Posted by: xalisae at November 10, 2009 12:24 PM
When Mexico declares open war on America and Mexican immigrants start bombing/shooting American citizens, I’ll be the first in line for my bunk at the camp. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING. I know liberals love their fantasy, but let’s live in the real world for a second, m’kay? Enough hypotheticals.
and… AMERICA TOOK THEM FIRST! Are you saying that Canada cannot be expected to do the same thing America ALREADY HAD DONE by letting them settle there? If a group/person moved to America, they can surely walk a little farther north if they think what would befall them in America is so freaking terrible.
Let’s go over this again:
LOST. AMERICAN. LIVES. > property/hurt feelings/wtf ever else.
Why isn’t there any comparison between the two groups? And if there isn’t, why did you bring up the Japanese Americans who were forced into camps in WWII? How did “the Japanese Americans” handle themselves with dignity during WWII that “American Muslims” have not? My neighbors had no more to do with the man who shot those innocent people than I did. They support him in the aftermath no more than I do (probably less, if that’s possible).
Lost lives > hurt feelings. But violation of civil rights is more than mere “hurt feelings.” If we effectively imprison whole religions, what country is this? What separates us from the countries we oppose?
The first amendment shouldn’t protect people who are trying to bring about the fall of the country to which that constitution belongs!!!
Will you tell me why EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM IN THE UNITED STATES should have their first amendment rights revoked?
When Mexico declares open war on America and Mexican immigrants start bombing/shooting American citizens, I’ll be the first in line for my bunk at the camp.
“Islam” has not declared war on America. Certain factions of Islam have. Many, many Muslims do not belong to those factions. People come here because they are safe here – safe from the very people who have declared war on the US. Yeah sure let’s just take their property and freedom away. I guess that WILL stop people from viewing the US as a free and safe country. Free and safe for only the right people, right? CRIMINALS lose their right to freedom – are you saying all Muslims are criminals? If no, why should all Muslims lose their right to freedom?
and… AMERICA TOOK THEM FIRST! Are you saying that Canada cannot be expected to do the same thing America ALREADY HAD DONE by letting them settle there? If a group/person moved to America, they can surely walk a little farther north if they think what would befall them in America is so freaking terrible.
As you rightly often point out, you can’t just pick up and move to the US whenever you want to. There are procedures. You sometimes have to wait. If you refuse to follow those procedures, you’re an illegal immigrant. My grandparents came here in like 1920 or something like that. I can’t just pick up and drive to Canada and be like, “Hey dudes, the US let my grandparents in but now I want to come here and you have to let me because the US did.”
ugh I’m heading out the door now so I will unfortunately not be able to continue my defense of the first amendment rights of non-criminal US citizens.
“Why isn’t there any comparison between the two groups? And if there isn’t, why did you bring up the Japanese Americans who were forced into camps in WWII? How did “the Japanese Americans” handle themselves with dignity during WWII that “American Muslims” have not? My neighbors had no more to do with the man who shot those innocent people than I did. They support him in the aftermath no more than I do (probably less, if that’s possible).”
The difference is, you didn’t hear about a Japanese-American killing people every Friday afternoon during WWII.
And I am SO SICK of liberals reducing the current WAR to a CRIMINAL matter. THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT FOR WAR. THIS IS NOT A CRIMINAL MATTER.
Mexicans have not declared war on America. Pro-lifers have not declared war on America. Presbyterians have not declared war on America. MUSLIMS, and particularly Muslims of Middle Eastern decent, have declared war on America. If you are a member of this group, the group YOU AFFILIATE WITH has declared war on America, and it’s time for America to wake up and remember that there IS A WAR ON TERROR.
Here is perfectly reasonable compromise between rounding up the usual suspects and refusing to do anything for fear of offending the sensiblilties of the artificial flowers on the left.
Investigate people who make public statements justifying terrorism and communicate with known terrorists.
If the preliminary investigation produces evidence that indicates the individual might have gone over to the dark side then use that evidence as probable cause to petition the courts for search warrants to go dig deeper into an individuals life.
The U.S. government used to revoke the permanent residency status and even the U.S. citizenship of immigrants whom, after due process, it deemed to be undesirable aliens.
After the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and Germany declared war on the U.S. I am sure we deported citizens of Germany, Italy and Japan who had been in this country legally.
Given the circumstances those were not an unreasonable acts.
As one former United States Supreme Court justice put it, “The Constitution is not a suicide pact.”
For people who are ‘natural born’ U. S. citizens, the bar is set quite a bit higher in terms of proof before we can charge them with criminal acts or acts of treason or war against the U. S.
It would seem, based on the abundance of available evidence, that Nidal Hassan should be indicted for not only multiple crimes of murder, but also of treason.
There should be no time wasted in convening both a military tribunal and criminal trials in both state and federal courts.
Hassan’s right to a ‘speedy trial’ should be given special attention and expedited action.
Remember missy Naplitano warned us about these kind of wacked out soldiers who were prime candidates for recruitment into the ranks of domestic terrorists.
yor bro ken
As a military wife there is nothing more upsetting that this shooting.
The sad thing is that this could’ve been prevented if people had any sense and would have discharged this guy instead of deploying him. Apparently he was a loose cannon if he was saying things like “let’s kill the infidels” in front of individuals. Why didn’t a red flag go up? Why did people not do anything? There are reports that many of his colleagues reported his actions to the higher ups (such as the anti-American ranting and extremist views). And the higher ups did nothing, why?
Of course, not every Muslim is like this. Saying we should deal with Muslims like the Japanese in WW2 is more than just racist, it’s really stupid. Just like not every Pro-Lifer is out to kill abortion doctors (ala Scott Roeder), we can’t say all Muslims are going to kill people. But unfortunately the fear of being politically incorrect was greater to some than what could happen if this guy really was a loose cannon, which he obviously was. There should have been some sort of report on this guy and there definitely shouldn’t have been a deployment.
I hope that the people that knew this guy was nuts and did nothing get fired. I hope that whoever decided to deploy him gets fired too. It was a huge failure on the part of individuals who did not listen to what other people heard this man say and did not take his writings seriously.
I just hope this never happens again. There is nothing more tragic than hearing of those who willingly give their lives and comfort for this country being killed in cold blood.
I’d rather have people like you call me “stupid” and “racist” than endanger the citizenry of America with people like this Hasan person.
As a military wife, I can’t believe you’d put name-calling before protecting the lives of other Americans.
There is nothing racist or stupid about reporting a person of any religion that is saying that he/she wants to blow up people in the name of his religion. Hearing that is downright scary. He should’ve been reported and he should have been discharged. The last thing he should’ve been was on the military base getting ready to deploy.
What is wrong is categorizing every Muslim out there by the actions of a few crazy radicals. I have met many Muslims. I have not yet met one who wanted to kill all those they consider infidels. I don’t think we can say that the actions of one are characteristic of the entire religion and that we should send them off the way we did the Japanese.
What’s strange is how individuals can’t seem to differentiate between being racist and wanting to protect your fellow man. If you hear someone saying that want to kill people, you have a duty to tell someone about this individual (particularly if he is in the military and could endanger the lives of those around him). It’s not at all racist, it’s reporting a crazy person. Racist would be saying all muslims should be locked up because of the actions of the crazies.
Please look up internment. Also, please refer to my previous post advocating that we improve upon this procedure. There is a difference between internment in wartime and “locking up”.
YOUR ignorance of what I’m talking about is not MY shortcoming.
“I hope that the people that knew this guy was nuts and did nothing get fired.”
He wasn’t just nuts. This was not just some loony who did this because the tooth fairy whispered in his ear. He is a cog in the machine of jihad which is turning out a war. Ignore that at your peril.
This guy was corresponding with the same “spiritual adviser” who of which a few 9/11 hijackers were disciples. ONCE AGAIN: Jihad (WAR) is an organized movement being undertaken by an identifiable segment of the world’s population. These are not just random crazypeoplecriminal acts.