Hos before embryos
Pro-aborts like to accuse pro-lifers of negatively stereotyping women who find themselves in crisis pregnancies. For instance, Amanda Marcotte wrote:
If there’s any one dictum that makes up the backbone of the anti-choice movement, it might be phrased as, “There are sluts in the world and they get what’s coming to them.”
Of course pro-lifers don’t think or talk like that.
But it certainly doesn’t help the the other side’s attempt to smear us as typecasting mothers in crisis pregnancies as “sluts” when young pro-aborts are bragging that they are, in fact, sluts.
S**U, Sexists blog (had to bleep the actual name) posted the following picture on May 18, with the caption, “A big ol’ gold star to tehsunshine, for her brave (and awesome) stand against anti-choicers outside of Planned Parenthood”…
Jill at the pro-abort blog Happy Bodies thought quite highly of the sign…
Kungfucarrie blogged that the photo was “amazing.” Another blogger whose name I can’t repeat wrote, “New favourite poster slogannnnn.”
So these pathetic young women are all bragging about their right to sleep around and abort if pregnancy gets in the way so they can continue to sleep around – the very definition of “slut,” wouldn’t you say? So sad.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Classy. Her mom must be so proud.
First of all, by the time a woman takes a pregnancy test, the child isn’t just an “embryo.”
Second of all, I don’t know ANY pro-lifer who thinks women are sluts and wants to punish them.
Abortion is incredibly destructive. It destroys not only children, but women. Why should women get rid of their babies to compete with men?
And this “anti-choice” term sometimes makes me laugh and sometimes really angers me. I’m not against CHOICES, I’m against ABORTION. To use “choice” as a euphemism is very telling on the part of pro-aborts. You can’t be pro-CHOICE, without having something that is chosen. They can call me “anti-abortion”….that’s not particuarly accurate, but it’s better than “anti-choice,” which doesn’t make any sense at all.
The dehumanization of an entire class of human beings in order to slaughter them really frightens and disgusts me.
I just do not understand … do not.
Here’s my favorite pro-life sign ever, if anyone cares. http://bit.ly/ayt3mZ
Classy. Her mom must be so proud.
Posted by: Courtnay at May 20, 2010 10:10 AM
Dad, too.
That actually is quite brilliant, Kelsey.
Kelsey!!! I love that.
You see the worst stereotyping of women in crisis pregnancies from pro-aborts. Women with unexpected pregnancies are “scared,” “desperate,” and “will do anything to get an abortion” no matter how harmful or idiotic that thing is. Honestly, most days I don’t understand how these people can call themselves feminists with a straight face.
I suppose stereotyping themselves makes about as much sense as the rest of it.
Thanks. I don’t know the name of the person holding the sign, but the picture was taken at March for Life 2009.
Can you say evolutionary dead end?
These people aren’t so prochoice or reproductive freedom. Just ask them what they think of large families. Hint: They quickly retreat from the prochoice rhetoric when women want 10 kids.
That’s such a good point, Keli. Never mind the biological and ethical questions about the act of abortion…..Pro-aborts don’t seem interested in helping women NOT have to abort. All my friends who have had abortions have come to me for some benediction or forgiveness—I love my friends, and I tell them it’s not my place. But I listen to them and try to help them. All of them (four friends), spend most of their energy trying to justify why they had to have an abortion. I am moved by their pain.
I went through a crisis pregnancy myself, and it was a crucial moment in my “conversion” (as it were) from “choice” to “life.”
Our society confuses “liberty” with “license.” We do not have the license to kill people, no matter what their size is, or how they function. The pro-abortion movement is so myopic and lacking in scientific and emotional integrity. They are incredibly blind.
Amen MaryLee, to your posts above. I’ve gone on RH Reality Factor many times where Amanda Marcotte blogs (I call her “Xena, Warrior Feminist”LOL!) …and never cease to be amazed at her rabid anti life blather. Anything goes when it comes to pushing a woman’s “right” to terminate the life of her unborn child, providing the pregnancy is timed all wrong, interferes with the mother’s career stadegy, etc. Recently I posted a very well written & fact proven post re: the recent investigation of Obama using taxpayer funds to influence Kenya’s proposed Constitutional draft coming up & surprise- it was deleted! If those that post on RH Reality can’t trash a pro life opinion, it sure won’t be around long. The venom on that blog for pro lifers is astounding! I’ve seen Jill Stanek debate with them as well…does a great job, too! :)
And people wonder why America is hated all over the world?
Is there another creature on this planet, besides a human, who tries so hard to eliminate its young? There is an instinct in nature to multiply and then to get those offspring safely off to a good start. Human beings even go very far in helping other species (turtles, whales, pandas) that are endangered get their young off safely. And yet we deny and destroy our own so jokingly and callously, so “in your face.” We pull off baby arms, burn them,grind them up in disposals or leave them to die in a trash can, injure their young, frightened and indoctrinated mothers, or sometimes their fully knowledgable mothers. Yet if we burned or pulled apart a baby turtle from a shell, injured the mother turtle so that she was infertile, we could be arrested.
Oh for a world where mothers and children are given as much dignity as turtles!
When I heard my daughter’s heartbeat for the first time (six weeks), and saw her heart flickering like a light on the ultrasound, something changed. If we can’t have respect and love for our babies, then we can’t truly have respect and love for ANYTHING. Does that make sense? It’s just horrific, the idea of slaughtering our children because they “get in the way.”
Life is messy. We are not owed anything. We don’t have a right to whatever we want. And though things were more difficult when my daughter came along, my love for her trumped my desires for my own life. It just happened automatically. A lot of sacrifices have been made, but they are worth it. She is a beautiful girl, and she makes everyone happy. Who the hell do we think we are, to kill our children? It blows my mind, seriously.
“Is there another creature on this planet, besides a human, who tries so hard to eliminate its young?”- Robin
Amen to that, Robin…it’s so contrary to Nature.
Everytime I mow my lawn during spring, I keep an eye out for rabbit holes with young bunnies still inside…sometimes, the mommy rabbit won’t even run when I approach the area where the hole was, just to protect her younglings…
One word to describe what Amanda Marcotte is good at doing:
Projecting.
The picture of the girl standing in front of a door with the letter ‘A’ above her invokes a kind of Nathaniel-Hawthorne-iness, yes?
Hos before embryos??
Doesn’t help much with their “Not-All-Women-Seeking-Abortion-Are-Sluts” routine… when I hear the word “Ho” I imagine the same thing I would if I heard the word “Slut”.
Also, on another note, is the proper spelling for that word “Ho” or “Hoe”??? I always thought it had an “e” at the end… Urban Dictionary says I’m right… but honestly, who uses Urban Dictionary as a reliable source??
Yeah…baby Eagles and sea turtles and whales are all protected under law (even before they’re born) but human babies aren’t protected from abortion. It’s so sad.
P.S. I’ve never called a woman in a crisis pregnancy a ho or a slut. My family-of-origin worked with an adoption agency for a number of years taking in unwed mothers and having them stay with us while they were pregnant and even after the pregnancy for recovering. These women would go to doctors appointments with their caseworker, choose out a family to adopt their baby and receive counseling. Many of these women thanked my family, particularly my mother.
What is so disturbing is that these young women appear with these signs by themselves or with other women. Never with men. It is as if sex has nothing to do with relationships, which it doesn’t seem to in these cases.
Sex is reduced to pure entertainment. Human beings are capable of and deserve so much more than that.
Mary Lee:
Embrace the label “Anti-Choice” Be anti-choice when it comes to:
-Abortion
-Spousal Abuse
-Sexual Abuse of Children
-Euthanasia
-Armed Robbery
-Manslaughter
-Talking on cell phones at concerts
and at least a couple of other things. Just don’t call yourself pro-choice unless you’re pro-choice across the board on all these issues.
“Is there another creature on this planet, besides a human, who tries so hard to eliminate its young?”- Robin
I did some arithmatic Robin and we humans kill around 25% of the children we conceive each year either before, or when we do a sloppy job, just after they are born.
Unconscionable.
Wicked.
Depraved.
Evil.
The Apostle Paul wrote to the church in Galatia and characterized his work on their behalf, through prayer, admonishment, education and exhortation this way:
“My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you…” Ga 4:19 NKJ
satan is obviously very busy as well working to see his likeness in man.
We have a choice, whom we will serve and where we will spend eternity.
So true, Julie Culshaw. I’ve noticed that its the norm for anti lifers to leave the father of said unwanted fetuses completely out of the equasion in their discussions. Hey, it takes two to tango! But since its in HER body, no further male “imput” required…?! Geez.
Worded more accurately, we all choose whom we serve on Earth and where we will spend eternity.
Ed’s post made me think of something…
Do these women not have a choice when they spread their legs and create the child?
I’m sorry if that’s offensive, but honestly, most of the women (especially the ones holding these signs!!) CHOOSE whether or not they want to have sex. **NEWS FLASH** Having sex creates children. That’s a no brainer. It only makes sense to me that if you don’t want a child, don’t have sex. Not trying to push the abstinence thing, but it’s the only sure fire way not to end up as the parent of a dead or unwanted child.
For me, abortion is particuarly egregious, because I’m not so sure there is a Heaven waiting.
The pride of pro-aborts is grotesque. Is this funny to them? How can I even take their “arguments” seriously if they not only dehumanize the unborn, but make fun of them? I can’t think of anything sicker.
It’s true, Desteny. Truth is, before I got married, I was rather a slut myself. I’m not against sex. But when it came time to take some responsibility for my choices, my daughter’s life took precedence. Aborting her wouldn’t *erase* my “mistake,” it would just be another mistake.
desteny,
These empowered young women are on The Pill or any other kind of birth control(or maybe not)and having recreational sex is just fine and dandy. If it feels good do it. If one of these liberated ladies gets pregnant they will abort. Choose contraception, choose recreational sex, choose abortion.
I often wonder how it all works out when/if they finally want to get married, want to start a family, want all of the things they now disdain.
That’s my way of thinking, MaryLee…
I am not against sex, but I do believe that if you are going to have sex, then you obviously know that doing so is how babies are made.
I mean, unless you still believe the stork story? And if that’s the case, you REALLY have no business in a sexual relationship.
If you make a baby, but don’t want it, then the easy way out is obviously an abortion.
No more child, no more problem… that’s how it’s viewed… some women feel terrible and regret it afterwords, while others don’t.
I couldn’t possibly think “Hey, I don’t want to be a mommy right now… I’m gonna run down to Planned Parenthood…” after finding out I was pregnant.
I really just have an extremely difficult time understanding the pro-choice opinion.
All of these years of indoctrination by Planned Parenthood have finally paid off in women having sex just to have it and coming to them to clean up their little “messes.” There is no understanding of their views. They are completely and totally deceived.
Thank the Lord more and more young people are embracing the prolife message!!
Desteny, from what I’ve noted when engaging in “dialogue” with the Enemy Camp, they insist “You do what YOU think is best for YOU, NOT for ME!” When it comes to “Reproductive Rights”. As long as abortion remains legal for any reason, reasoning WITH anti lifers is almost pointless. For now, they have the law on their side, not listening to anyone else’s opinion!
Ed, You are right about satan. The callousness and obvious “humor” the girl finds in her sign shows signs of evil. The sign is not an argument of abortion for rape or incest victims or health of the mother. It is for abortion as convenient birth control, selfishness pure and simple. How did our society come to this?
And I have noticed, not many comments today from the other side. Are they ashamed?
Men can easily stop abortion by simply refusing to commit adulterous acts with HOs. Perhaps a zipit campaign aimed at men would help.
“How did our society come to this? ”
Simple: Society’s rejection of God and God’s laws.
Robin, I doubt they’re ashamed. They have no shame. This girl thinks she’s oh so clever for her little slogan and is probably over the moon that such big shots as Amanda are paying attention to her.
Just curious- how many of you have heard the phrase this is playing on? Which would be “Hos before Bros” or the other way around, depending upon whom is speaking.
Hey, ‘Feministas’ that phrase ” _before_s” was coined by..guess who? A bunch of GUYS! It’s “Bros before Hos”, and guess what “Ho” is short for… “WHORES”. You’re calling YOURSELVES ‘whores’???
Real geniuses you are (NOT).
I know this is bad, But I come across a lot of pro-abort women and they all have nasty TEETH like this even the planned parenthood in MN has some pretty nasty people working for them. How come these women trust and feel safe with their opinion. I don’t know any thoughts (or I maybe wrong)
Shelley Ann, the Devil & his demons masquerade behind the faces of these “pro choice” folks… Where could they hope to find more fertile ground??
Just curious- how many of you have heard the phrase this is playing on? Which would be “Hos before Bros” or the other way around, depending upon whom is speaking.
Posted by: KushielsMoon at May 20, 2010 2:00 PM
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It’s playing off of “Bros before Hos” and yes, I’ve heard of it.
So I guess it’s the typical oppressive mentality, huh? Bros before hos, then hos before embryos? (Guy considers “ho” to be of little importance, so the “ho” considers the embryo of little importance?)
Nice that you took the typical female-degrading “bros before hos” phrase and sorta made it your own, huh?
Tell me this: Do you consider yourself to be a feminist “ho?” Do you refer to yourself that way?
“Just curious- how many of you have heard the phrase this is playing on? Which would be ‘Hos before Bros’ or the other way around, depending upon whom is speaking.”
Posted by: KushielsMoon at May 20, 2010 2:00 PM
No, actually the original phrase is “bros before hos.” Anyone using the phrase “hos before bros” is either ignorant of what the phrase means, or they’re trying to reclaim it.
Incidentally, either way the phrase is used, whichever one comes at the end is being pretty nastily put-down. To say “bros before hos” is a phrase that was used by (some) men to say that their relationships with other men always ought to take precedent over their relationships with women, and–since they were already being pretty misogynistic, so it wasn’t out of their way–reduced women entirely to sex objects just for kicks and giggles (rape culture, rape culture, rape culture). Used the opposite way, “hos before bros,” the phrase is misandrist, but doesn’t put men down the way the original phrase put down women.
This is an anti-feminist phrase. Either way it’s used. Feminism is about equality, not misandry. Nor is it about self-deprication. To put a further play on it in the manner this sign does, and the fact that most pro-choicers see that as really cool and fine, is a sign that pro-choicers have no problem legitimizing and validating anti-feminist rhetoric.
But hey! Far be it from me to stop you from engaging in anti-feminist rhetoric if you want. I mean, it’s not like there’s a such thing as rape culture that this phrase and other like it reinforce or anything! Oh, wait…
I’m really confused…this person looks EXACTLY LIKE SOMEONE I KNEW IN HIGH SCHOOL, and was GOOD FRIENDS WITH. She and I grew apart…but I’m almost certain it’s her…complete with the engagement ring on her left hand. I’m afraid to check on facebook now.
“And people wonder why America is hated all over the world?”
I don’t know about the whole world, but Muslim-ruled countries in the Middle East hate America because of its religious freedom.
People like Amanda Marcotte think of unplanned children as burdens or punishments, so in their minds, pro-lifers must also think of them as burdens or punishments and therefore want to punish women. They don’t understand or believe that pro-lifers see every human being as someone worthy of life.
Crisis pregnancy center afghan update: Now it could probably cover a newborn from feet to waist. Not doing a garter stitch next time! :D
To the two people who tried to correct me-
If you read my post, I said it could read either way. I’ve seen equal usage of “hos before bros” and “bros before hos.” Again, it depends upon whom is speaking.
Kelli- No, I don’t call myself a ho. I think that some people might be enjoying the sign because it takes a common phrase used by the general (young) public (whether we like it or not), and thus the message can reach them easier.
So does this “witty sign” translate that I call myself a ho although I’m not but if I am pregnant, this ho comes first and my baby can die cause it’s all about me??
Loosely translated of course.
Hmmm….so much for being pro-woman, eh?
I can’t open Kelsey’s sign at 10:20 AM.
Can anyone post a different link or say what is written? I am curious…
“If you read my post, I said it could read either way. I’ve seen equal usage of ‘hos before bros’ and ‘bros before hos.’ Again, it depends upon whom is speaking.”
Posted by: KushielsMoon at May 20, 2010 4:31 PM
Except that “bros before hos” unquestionably came first. And is unquestionably misogynist. Again, anyone saying “hos before bros” is either ignorant or trying to reclaim. And no matter which way you’re doing it, you’re validating anti-feminist rhetoric. Just because you’ve “seen equal usage” does not mean the phrase doesn’t come from where it comes from and mean what it means.
The poster says
ProChild/ProChoice=ProPig/ProBacon
:)
“because it takes a common phrase used by the general (young) public (whether we like it or not), and thus the message can reach them easier.”
Why would you want to send the message to young people that women who abort are whores? Sick.
Pro-aborts = Pro-nutcases
Praxedes, I don’t think very many people actually think women are hos when they say “hos before bros” or “hos before embryos.” It’s simply a matter of rhyming.
What?
That’s exactly what people think, Ho = Whore.
Imus or whatever his name is got fired or reprimanded for saying, “…” well, you know what he said, right? I don’t have to repeat it.
The point is he got in all kinds of hot water because he said, “…-headed Ho”
Ed, come on… of course he got in trouble for saying that word.
It’s just like with the abortion issue, men have fewer rights than women. They can call themselves dirty names, but if you are a man and call women or a woman one of those names, you better watch out!!!
It’s very similar to the “N” word… black people can use it, but white people can’t.
My zoo friend CrazyBaboon
Knows more than KushielsMoon
It’s simply a matter of rhyming.
I just have a tough time picturing Laura Bush, who is Pro-death, holding up a sign that says, “Ho’s Before Embryos”
Laura is a former teacher and librarian, but I still doubt she’d want people to think of her as a “Ho”, even though she’s a lady and it does rhyme really well.
So I guess it’s the typical oppressive mentality, huh? Bros before hos, then hos before embryos? (Guy considers “ho” to be of little importance, so the “ho” considers the embryo of little importance?)
Posted by: Kelli May 20, 2010 2:46 PM
Good point, Kelli.
Women used to be NON-persons by law; the property of their fathers or husbands. Today, ironically (and hypocritically) the embryo/fetus is a non-person by law and the property of his/her mother. But while the father or husband was not legally permitted to slaughter his daughter or wife, the woman/mother is legally permitted to slaughter her embryo/fetus/baby.
It’s like, in some twisted rebellious form of revenge against men, “feminists” are taking all their wrath out on their innocent offspring as a form of proxy. Not a very effective one, since men benefit from abortion even more so than women. :/
Anyone tell her the OTHER medical facts of life?
STDs/// Later VASTLY HEIGHTENED RISK of cervical cancer? etc. etc. etc.???
Thanks AGAIN to underage teen Birth Mother S.
My Dylan is a powerhouse 11 year old boy. A boy scout, baseball player, Ripstick rider…he loves the usual boy stuff & activities.
And PS – Birth Mother was probably some p*mp’s underage teen SLAVE! I pray she is still alive and still clean…If she is clean, she can someday see him (if she wishes) She will be glad she chose life for Dylan!
vikingmother,
So thankful for Dylan today!! What an amazing story of life and love that you have!!
This gal seems to have forgotten that we all pass through the embryonic stage. Had she been aborted then or as a fetus, would she even be a ‘Ho’ or be holding her “witty sign” *rolls eyes* in rallies?
For me, to be against embryos is to be against humanity itself. I mean, what would biology (or science or anything else for that matter) be without the miracle of life?
So… Ho Ho Ho, let’s join hands and abort Roe! [sorry, couldn’t help it]