Actress doesn’t want to overindulge in childbearing
I have always wanted to have a child of my own and I will always want to go through that gift that women have been given to experience that, so I hope to be a mother at some point….
I think I can allow myself one child – and from then on, I think I would have to adopt. It makes sense not to add to the population problem.
~Lost star and new mom Evangeline Lilly, as quoted in a pre-pregnancy interview, RTTNews.com, May 23
May.24, 2011 6:00 am |
Adoption, Population, Pregnancy |
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I always wonder why most Hollywood actresses are pro abortion rights and buy into the overpopulation myth and yet, they never speak up about the man made generated business of baby making in the fertility mills. Don’t get me wrong, I have no clue what Evangeline’s views are, that’s great that she wants to adopt, just saying in general. When you look at how many celebrities have twins, you gotta wonder how many were aided by technology so they could have their boy and girl, on their time frame…
I think it’s great that Evangeline is encouraging adoption, however, research is showing we don’t have a population problem; to the contrary there is documented research to show that many countries are facing “demographic winter”, which means we are not reproducing at the rate necessary to sustain our populations. The United States is approaching “demographic winter” but some countries are already there (e.g. Italy). The so-called “population explosion” crisis is one of the arguments that has been, and still is, used to support abortion world-wide.
you have to feel sorry for this poor misguided young woman.
So sad to be so hopelessly indoctrinated…..
God said “Be fruitful and multiply”, and gave women twenty years of fertility in which to do so.
There’s no need to limit your child bearing to one child. Children should never be called a problem. Let God’s will be done. If we don’t, who will feed the hungry and care for the sick of the world? The polar bears? The Chinese?
If Evangeline is being honest, then it is entirely possible that when she has her first baby, she will be overcome with love for her own child and probably have more than one. Something tells me that the one or two child trend in Hollywood has more to do with maintaining their figures than it does a conviction about population growth. Using the overpopulation myth as a justification for avoiding procreation allows these women the self-satisfaction of being righteous on some level.
I too am suspicious of many of these pregnancies that conveniently produce a boy and a girl. Having said all that, I do commend anyone who adopts children whether or not they want to endure the consequences of pregnancy.
She sees childbearing as a fad, hence the “every woman ought to do it once” attitude.
Sweet girl, has some growing up to do.
Childbearing is only nine months (or so) of expectancy, followed by a lifetime of parental devotion.
That is the labor of love. I am glad to hear she is adopting, but when her “one biological” is a few years old, she may well change her mind. :)
Everyone else assumes that others will bear children.
If everyone held that attitude, we’d have a population crash.
What if she conceives twins in her one self-allotted pregnancy?
Going by what she said, if she has twins, maybe she’ll put one of them up for adoption.
I think people are mistaking the poverty problem as a population problem. In reality, poverty really is the issue.
“I have always wanted to have a child of my own and I will always want to go through that gift that women have been given to experience that, so I hope to be a mother at some point…. I think I can allow myself one child – and from then on, I think I would have to adopt.”
What a wonderful, pro-life stance! She said that conception and bearing a child is a gift! And she is an advocate for adoption. At least she didn’t say, “from that point on I will have to abort.” So what if she thinks there is a population problem? Where does she live? LA? NYC? From her perspective I’m sure there IS a population problem! What’s the big deal?
Lost star and new mom Evangeline Lilly, as quoted in a pre-pregnancy interview, RTTNews.com, May 23
Apparently, then, she already HAS the one child.
Gina Danaher says:
May 24, 2011 at 9:42 am
If Evangeline is being honest, then it is entirely possible that when she has her first baby, she will be overcome with love for her own child and probably have more than one. Something tells me that the one or two child trend in Hollywood has more to do with maintaining their figures than it does a conviction about population growth. Using the overpopulation myth as a justification for avoiding procreation allows these women the self-satisfaction of being righteous on some level.
(Denise) Jayne Mansfield said, “I believe a girl can have a baby every year and have a better figure and nicer complexion, becoming more beautiful with each newborn. I am living proof of my theory.” Jayne Mansfield DID embody her beliefs. She used exercising with weights and usually got her waist down to its normal small size after she had her babies. Her breasts could get larger because of the pregnancy, making her figure even more extreme in its hour-glass dimensions.
I read a book of women talking about their feelings about their breasts. One woman was pregnant and tempted to have an abortion. She realized that the pregnancy was causing her breasts to grown and carried to term because of that. I wonder what that man or woman would feel if he or she know existence is owed to being the equivalent of a “boob job!”
So did Jayne Mansfield’s breasts really get bigger and bigger all through her life as she had babies? I thought that after breast-feeding stops, they deflate.
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JMama: I think people are mistaking the poverty problem as a population problem. In reality, poverty really is the issue.
It’s both. Certainly there are issues with the production of “wealth” as far as the resources we use, and the distribution of them, but there are also more and more people, all the time, per barrel of oil taken out of the ground, for example. There is no getting around the basic equations of supply and demand, and while there are of course other things affecting it, I’ve seen the price of oil go from under $3 to $145 in my lifetime, alone.
Okay, so what? Well, when we talk about “poverty,” surely we mean that to include having a relative lack of goods, and those are pretty much grown on the surface of the earth or mined from beneath it. The more people pursuing a given amount of goods, then the less there is for each, on average.
What we’re beginning to experience – big increases in the cost of energy, food, etc. – is not only due to population increase. There is also a large percentage of the world’s population, China, India, Brazil, some of the Russian republics, etc., that are only now developing middle classes – billions of people who suddenly have the ability to buy cars, washing machines, Pez dispensers, etc.
This is only going to increase the perception of population pressure. The gap between the “haves” even including many of those who we in the US would call “poor,” and the true “have nots” is going to get bigger. So, as far as real “poverty,” when we combine demographics and economics and the ever-growing population, I think you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
“Deflate,” Doug? What, are they filled with air, like a blow-up doll’s?
Lost star and new mom Evangeline Lilly, as quoted in a pre-pregnancy interview, RTTNews.com, May 23
Apparently, then, she already HAS the one child.
Yes. She just gave birth this week. This interview was pre-pregnancy, but it was republished in this article announcing the birth of her first child.
One thing I am struggling with as my husband and I think about pursuing adoption is that if I wish to adopt, but in the middle of the process became pregnant, in many cases I might have to stop the adoption process. I can’t help but wonder how many don’t adopt because of that.
Mine are still bigger than they were pre-kids, though not quite as big as when I was nursing. Not deflated.
“Deflate,” Doug? What, are they filled with air, like a blow-up doll’s?
Kel – heh – I wondered if that would get a response. ; )
But really, they’re filled with a fluid – milk – and I think there are also other fluids in the tissue, more than is the case when not pregnant or lactating. Thus, yeah, I think “deflate” would apply.
ycw. I guess that may depend on the agency you go through. I know of quite a few people who got pregnant during the adoption process and continued with it. If you read Raechel Myers’ blog, Finding My Feet, her sister had a daughter and then experienced difficulty conceiving. She and her husband decided to adopt two brothers, and in the process of doing that, they got pregnant. In about a year, they went from having one child to having four! So clearly, stopping the process is not something that all agencies would insist on, though I admit I don’t know the specifics.
It might be worth contacting Ms. Myers through her blog if you want to know more details. Good luck with your decision!
Please don’t assume that if a woman has only one child — or even no children — that she absolutely must be having abortions. Some contraceptives work pretty well. It is possible to get sterilized. It is possible to abstain from the sort of sex that leads to pregnancy.
After all, Nellie Gray of March for Life is childless. Obviously that doesn’t mean she’s had abortions!
My breasts are way bigger than before I had my son though not as big as when I was lactating… fyi Doug. Always happy to educate. For some of my friends they did get flat and saggy after nursing. But every woman is different. Every woman’s body is different. For me pregnancy was great for my bust… not so good on my waistline and belly.
Don’t worry SydneyM, many men gain in the waistline and belly department when they become fathers. What’s their excuse?
LOL. Reality! Thank you. I hear ya!
Totally agree with Brandolyn.
I don’t necessarily agree with Evangeline about having a population problem, but I personally believe that we should adopt more. That is, at least until the number of orphans is not as high as it is now. There are millions of children who are sick, starving, and without a home. Why not try to care of ONE of them before we start adding to the population? Why have two babies in existence (one being loved and one not)? Why not just have one, cared-for and loved child? That’s the way I see it.
Reality: Don’t worry SydneyM, many men gain in the waistline and belly department when they become fathers.
Yeah, or even if they don’t become fathers. : P
Harsh but true Doug, harsh but true.
And then when they suddenly start losing weight, getting fit, updating their wardrobe and paying more attention to their grooming for no apparent reason…..
But really, they’re filled with a fluid – milk – and I think there are also other fluids in the tissue, more than is the case when not pregnant or lactating. Thus, yeah, I think “deflate” would apply.
Well, I’ll be sure to tell my husband he can just think of my breasts as balloons, inflating and deflating over the course of my pregnancies…
Please don’t assume that if a woman has only one child — or even no children — that she absolutely must be having abortions.
I didn’t see anyone here assuming that, but I could be wrong.
About adoption: adoptees tend to have more problems, even more extreme problems, than other people. That doesn’t mean people shouldn’t adopt. It means they should be aware of those problems and prepared to deal with them.
I’ve also read that it may be that everyone’s breasts sag when they reach a certain age, and it may just be more noticeable if they were previously nursing and/or pregnant.
Kel says:
May 25, 2011 at 2:49 am
Please don’t assume that if a woman has only one child — or even no children — that she absolutely must be having abortions.
I didn’t see anyone here assuming that, but I could be wrong.
(Denise) It seems to be implied by some of the posters that if a woman has only one baby she must be getting fetuses ripped out of her womb. There seems to be a fear that a female who doesn’t want a large family will inevitably expel fetuses. Again, some contraceptives do work well if used conscientiously, sterilization is available to those who don’t want to get pregnant or have gotten pregnant as much as they wish to, and females can abstain from the act that leads to pregnancy.
Hey I LOST weight because I had to stop going to teh gym!
“But really, they’re filled with a fluid – milk – and I think there are also other fluids in the tissue, more than is the case when not pregnant or lactating. Thus, yeah, I think “deflate” would apply.”
Kel: Well, I’ll be sure to tell my husband he can just think of my breasts as balloons, inflating and deflating over the course of my pregnancies…
Is that what they call ’em, now? Seriously, Kel, wasn’t trying to poke fun at anyone, but the Jayne Mansfield deal did make me wonder if there was perhaps a “ratcheting” effect at work, where even though there was a size decrease after lactating, there was an overall upward trend in size, pregnancy by pregnancy…. Jayne had 5 kids, so she’s a good example, if that’s what really happened. In reading about her – Mariska Hargitay of ‘Law and Order’ is her daughter – didn’t know that.
Balloons are filled with air, and while not a liquid, air is still a fluid.
Bobby: Hey I LOST weight because I had to stop going to the gym!
So, now you gettin’ soft, old man?
It seems to be implied by some of the posters that if a woman has only one baby she must be getting fetuses ripped out of her womb.
Denise, nowhere did I see that implied. However, I did see the implication that perhaps selective IVF is being performed, trending toward boy/girl twins.
Doug – relax, I’m just giving you a hard time. :D
The “population explosion” is not necessarily a pro-choice sentiment. Maybe it is for some, but the vast majority of efforts being made toward population stabilization/decrease (CHINA IS A GLARING EXCEPTION) is focused on providing birth control-pills, implants, shots, etc- to Women who would otherwise not have access.
What this Woman is saying is admirable and intelligent. Why do people want to make this into something more than it is? Its her CHOICE!!!!!
If you want to suggest that there isn’t a ‘population problem’ please visit a developing nation. Ugh. Is it really that hard to think outside your own situation?
http://overpopulationisamyth.com/category/categories/pop101
Doug – relax, I’m just giving you a hard time.
Kel, I figured as much, and it’s the same deal from me. ; )
From the OverpopulationMyth site:
No way everyone could fit in Texas …
According to the U.N. Population Database, the world’s population in 2010 will be 6,908,688,000. The landmass of Texas is 268,820 sq mi (7,494,271,488,000 sq ft).
So, divide 7,494,271,488,000 sq ft by 6,908,688,000 people, and you get 1084.76 sq ft/person. That’s approximately a 33′ x 33′ plot of land for every person on the planet, enough space for a town house.
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Okay, if anybody accepts this as relevant, then this site is aimed at you. ; )
Good grief, it’s also been said that everybody on earth could fit in Jacksonville, Florida, with so many square feet per person. If it’s a mystery to you how this could be, or why it too is a meaningless statement in the context of our real existence here on earth, then I invite you to try and figure out what is silly about the statement.
Doug says:
May 25, 2011 at 8:28 am
“But really, they’re filled with a fluid – milk – and I think there are also other fluids in the tissue, more than is the case when not pregnant or lactating. Thus, yeah, I think “deflate” would apply.”
Kel: Well, I’ll be sure to tell my husband he can just think of my breasts as balloons, inflating and deflating over the course of my pregnancies… Is that what they call ‘em, now? Seriously, Kel, wasn’t trying to poke fun at anyone, but the Jayne Mansfield deal did make me wonder if there was perhaps a “ratcheting” effect at work, where even though there was a size decrease after lactating, there was an overall upward trend in size, pregnancy by pregnancy…. Jayne had 5 kids, so she’s a good example, if that’s what really happened. In reading about her – Mariska Hargitay of ‘Law and Order’ is her daughter – didn’t know that.
(Denise) Jayne Mansfield had 5 children, 3 boys and 2 girls. She strongly opposed abortion. She never had a miscarriage. She was pregnant 5 times and carried all her pregnancies to term. She took good care of herself during her pregnancies — cut out the drinking and drugging — and delivered a healthy baby each time.