Surge in pro-abortion vulgarity: Desperate much?
The lips of the righteous know what is fitting,
but the mouth of the wicked only what is perverse. ~ Proverbs 32:10
Warning: Vulgarity ahead.
The other side has apparently determined it can no longer command attention by employing logic. As pro-life ideology begins to dominate politics as well as the thinking American mind, abortion proponents are increasingly exercising the use of shock to make their points.
The recent uptick in pro-abortion vulgarity can somewhat be traced back to Oklahoma Democrat state Senator Judy Eason McIntyre, who couldn’t deal with the passage of a personhood bill in her chamber in March. So she joined a protest holding the stately sign, “IF I WANTED THE GOVERNMENT IN MY WOMB I’D F*** A SENATOR.”
Now you can buy t-shirts.
Which is exactly what a pro-choicer known only as “O,” pictured left, did, and then became unrighteously indignant when booted off an American Airlines flight in May after refusing to turn it inside out or change it.
Abortion proponents saw this as viewpoint discrimination rather than an issue of decency. Fumed RH Reality Check Editor-In-Chief Jodi Jacobson:
But protest these laws and the War on Women with a t-shirt that gets right to the point? Let people know the basis of all of it, the people that “want government out of our lives” want to place it directly into our bodies? In a country supposedly founded on freedom of speech and expression, in which protestors can stand outside clinics harassing and threatening women and doctors, and run through every public square with gory doctored photos?…
Oh, no. You can’t do that. You can’t take that message that your body is your own anywhere. Because in the United States today, that is like taking your burqha off under the Taliban. That is “offensive,” “insulting” and “not for public consumption.”
I must momentarily digress. Jodi, please show me a photo of an abortion you think isn’t “doctored.” Show me your reality of the procedure.
The liberal Netroots Nation 2012 conference earlier this month had “vulgarity on steroids,” as Gateway Pundit called it, for sale. Check out these posters…
I didn’t even know what the word “p***t**g” meant. Had to ask someone if it was bad enough to censor.
As a bookend to this post comes final offensiveness from another female Democrat state legislator, this one Michigan state Rep. Lisa Brown, who on the House floor on June 14 told Republicans, “I’m flattered that you’re all so interested in my vagina, but ‘no’ means ‘no,'” regarding a fetal pain bill that would ban abortion after 20 weeks with no exceptions – even for rape. Her comment got her banned from speaking on the floor for a day…
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDDUoXsSN5g[/youtube]
Brazenly, Brown was a participant in a reading of “The Vagina Monologues,” an obscene play about female sexual oppression, outside the Capitol a few days later.
In my view this coarsening of the conversation by the other side is one big panicked temper tantrum.
I agree. It is panic and desperation. There is no logic or reason or even sound science to their arguments anymore (there never was) and now the veneer of “morality” is being melted away. What’s left is the vulgar truth of abortion. It destroys life and civility and everything noble and good. It always corrupts those who participate in it. It can’t do anything else. No good fruit can come from a rotten tree of violence.
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“I’m flattered that you’re all so interested in my vagina”
Well i’m gonna go take an acid bath.
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There’s nowhere else for them to go. They’ve lost the argument on its merits, all they have left is crass language in an attempt to shame.
The real pity is that professing Christians are joining them in being similarly vulgar about the purity pledges they made when young and are, now that they are older and supposedly wiser, embarrassed about.
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So Brown’s response to the idea that little humans feel pain 20 weeks after conception was to: exhibit the breadth and depth of her own narcissism! I’m glad she thinks that everyone was interested in her own anatomy, but actually the bill was about the anatomy, physiology, and neurology of children. To celebrate her self-absorbtion, she recites a piece of verbal garbage (the ‘monologues’) that even many of my super-lib friends find poorly written and inexcusably vulgar. Go you. I was too busy this month to get out an make a fool of you, so I’m ever so thankful you saved me the time. LOL.
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I think one can safely say that there isn’t a single person in that room that was even REMOTELY interested in her vagina.
What Jen said in the first reply is SPOT ON.
As far as Judy McIntyre and the message on her sign….she’d be hard pressed to find a senator willing to take her up on her offer. Wait…maybe not. (shudder……) I think I’m gonna be sick. LOL
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“So Brown’s response to the idea that little humans feel pain 20 weeks after conception was to: exhibit the breadth and depth of her own narcissism! I’m glad she thinks that everyone was interested in her own anatomy, but actually the bill was about the anatomy, physiology, and neurology of children.”
^This. Also, someone needs to explain to Lisa Brown that a developing fetus would be located in a uterus, not a vagina. Basic biology FAIL.
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Try to imagine the following:
A male lawmaker stands at the podium and thanks the lady lawmakers for their interest in his penis, but no mean no.
Big surprise, the lady lawmakers go ballistic. That disgusting pervert! Sexual harassment!
Of course NOW would weigh in, sputtering their horror and indignation. Nothing less than the lawmaker’s resignation would be acceptable.
Men are outraged at the treatment of this male lawmaker, even though he ends up getting little more than a wrist slap, and storm the state capital steps. Signs such as “My penis is self-controlling” . “Women lawmakers have opinions, male lawmakers are perverts” and “This is not Michiganistan, men will not be silenced” abound. A variation on some of the actual signs, BTW. Anthony Weiner is flown in to give a reading of “The Penis Monologues” on the capital steps.
We are told that men have had enough of this infringement on their rights. They are tired of what they view as emasculation by lawmakers and society and are finally getting off the couch and being heard.
Interesting double standard, ya think?
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The PC’er known only as “O”? Goodness, why wouldn’t she give her name? Certainly this is a woman of conviction, right?
Oh and Ms.McIntyre…..no, I don’t think I’ll go there.
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It’s like a pro-abort screaming in a pro-lifer’s face, “Pro-life your name’s a lie!” … punches the pro-lifer in the face … gets arrested … then says, “Viewpoint discrimination!!! CENSORSHIP!”
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Do we live in a kingdom?
In what way would intercourse with a US Senator put government into a woman’s womb?
Lisa Brown is also on the order of Allison Benedikt – having absolutely no clue about conception, implantation etc. They’re absolute proof avoiding teaching human biological development in high school is having a huge detrimental impact on intelligent social discourse.
I could have them wrong through. As Al Sharpton might say “Project we much!!!”
Where, oh where, is the dancing genitalia?
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A couple of sobering thoughts:
– Sadly, it can get much worse.
– Without acceptance and obedience to Jesus Christ, the damnation of hell awaits, a fate I would wish upon no one.
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Totally agreed.
Sprinkling the effenheimers throughout does not a point make.
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Here’s my thought: Ninek is correct that pro-aborts are complete narcissists. They are obsessed with their genitals, and cannot image anyone else would not care about what they do in bed: Someone actually cares about the life of my son or daughter?! Impossible! They obviously just want to punish me for the hot, hot sex I am having.
Narcissists cannot accept that other people might have rights too if it is inconvenient, even their own offspring. So pro-aborts infantilize women, while ironically claiming the pro-life movement is demeaning to women. Women cannot possibly be expected to abstain from sex if they do not want to be pregnant, and if they are pregnant, they might behave like complete fools and act stick coat hangers up their crotches. And the actual infant in the situation, the one with no control over anything, is dehumanized and killed, all so that the woman can be treated like a child.
Some men do try to behave like pro-abort women. They stand before judges and insist they just wanted sex, not to pay child support. They get laughed at and are told to write a check, or else. Really, it is hilarious to see grown men act this way. You don’t want to deal with the consequences of having sex? Then don’t have sex, you loser. But if you treat women like adults too, Team Narcissism throws a temper tantrum.
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“Abortion proponents saw this as viewpoint discrimination rather than an issue of decency.”
Persecution complex much?
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These people clearly understand that the unborn baby is a human being; but, they simply don’t care about this fact and thus, they participate in the deadly game that King Solomon wished to avoid: the game of judgement. These people have judged the unborn to be of unequal value to the life of the mother, or in the words of Rep. Brown: “the status of the life of the fetus as human life does not equal that of the mother.”
Unlike the good Mother who pleaded to King Solomon to give her child to the other woman Rep. Brown has asked King Solomon for the permission to kill her child. Rep. Brown does not understand what it means to be a Mother or to be pregnant. She needs to read the Old Testament again.
Rep. Brown’s interpretation of Judaism is the reason that our laws should be based, in part, on the truth of science and empirical evidence.
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FLAIL MOAR! I love watching the squirming.
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It’s been commented on here before, time and again, more elegantly, but I am so glad to be on the side of life, love, joy.
From over here, the pro-abortion side looks miserable, angry, narcissistic. Everything from this (disgusting vulgarity), Congresswomen thinking that pro-life congressmen are obsessed with her vagina, Obama saying that babies are a punishment, and that slate.com writer who wanted to squelch new parents’ joy of seeing their little ones just so it’s not as hard to defend abortion. What a miserable side to be on! I’m so grateful to have received God’s grace; God, who is Love, who is the Prince of Peace, who is gentle, kind, forgiving.
This is all just another example of how violence and evil does not breed goodness, does not breed wholeness; rather, abortion sows pain, destruction, fear, hysteria, vulgarity. I’ll take the fruits of the Spirit, if you please. :)
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Hi Carla,
The effenheimers. LOL. Love it
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Well said, LibertyBelle! ;)
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Someone actually cares about the life of my son or daughter?! Impossible! They obviously just want to punish me for the hot, hot sex I am having.
SM, I’m glad I wasn’t drinking my water when I read this. Thank you for the laugh and the excellent post. :D
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The “womyn” in the posters are drawn in such a way that it looks like they have VD all over their faces. Just saying.
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Surge in vulgarity? I haven’t seen much difference honestly, its always been vulgar debating them. Of course, I don’t sit around getting the vapors over the f-word, lol.
I don’t think what the legislator said was offensive. Dumb, sure, but there isn’t anything offensive about the word vagina or making a joke that misses the point.
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The vapors. LOL
There is nothing offensive about the word vagina. True.
BUT in the context it was used??? And the setting??? Totally inappropriate and I am glad there was a consequence.
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LOL Jack. the vapors… Heh. I don’t either, but they use it with such hate behind the use. Yes, they’ve always been vulgar. But I do believe they’re not hiding it as much anymore, you know?
As to what the senator said, I don’t think it was very professional. It was stupid. And totally off point. No one in there was talking about raping her.
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Eww. Just eww.
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It’s feministas like this that give real women a bad name.
If you don’t want the government in your vagina, then keep your uterus out of taxpayers wallets.
Stop panhandling and pay for your own recreational drugs and cosmetic surgery
or
get fitted for a chasitity belt with an electronic lock that will only open when you can pass a sobriety test and urine analysis.
Suggest you get a new sign that says, ‘Will work for sexdrugs and surgery.”
If you want equal pay for equal work, then earn some self respect.
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Mike says: June 26, 2012 at 1:07 pm ‘I think one can safely say that there isn’t a single person in that room that was even REMOTELY interested in her vagina.’
Not til she forcefully interjected into the public discourse.
With any and all due respect I beg to differ.
You only have to watch a video of a ‘gay pride’ parade or visit a club where female homosexuals congregate to blow that false assumption out of the hot tub.
I would venture to say there is at least one female democRAT U.S. Senator who might be more than ‘remotely interested’ in this ‘wart on women’.
But out of consideration for my more genteel colleagues I will resist the temptation to wax abhorent about the sexual practices and aberrant behavior of female and/or male homosexuals.
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xalisae
Who and/or what is ‘MPQ’?
Help me.
I took a nap and when I woke up I had lost all contact with contemporary pop culture.
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MPQ is the shorthand name for one of the posters here, Moronic Pro-Choice Quotes.
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Wow! *Somebody* got woozy over some naughty language! Fiddle dee dee! (Of course, even small children are mature enough to be forced to look at giant doctored “bloody” pictures of fake fetuses, but I digress.)
Of course we don’t want anyone to even say the medically correct term “vagina” out loud in public, even when it’s what is being legislated. Not only is the vagina a dirty filthy thing whose only useful purpose is to be a conduit for sweet innocent perfect babies, but the term “vagina” might remind us that it’s a part attached to an actual woman, who has opinions about the use of her vagina and stuff. How inconvenient.
And then a legislator (who’s already been scolded and put in a corner like the bad girl she is) to SAY that terrible word over and over again in a play? In public? What a hussy! She should have her mouth washed out and stay after school! It’s like she’s actually not ashamed of having a vagina, and having an opinion about that vagina!
Only pro-pregnancy people (preferably men) should voice an opinion about vaginas. That’s how they show how much they’re comfortable with sexuality – the men take control of the vaginas through legislation to show their expertise in ladybusiness, and the women refuse to discuss vaginas until there’s a baby coming out of them, and then only to warn the doctor to catch the baby. That’s how god intended it to be.
Where’s my chaise lounge? I feel a fainting spell.
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…This comment borders on the NSFW. If the mods feel I have stepped over the line, I will understand entirely. That said…
@AnnaAnastasia: This is falling into the same trap that McIntyre and Brown did: it doesn’t address the point being made. The only person here talking about vaginas is you. The only person talking patronizingly about any of the women in the article is you. Literally the only person. Do pro-lifers talk about women? Yes. All the time. And when we call them out for missteps, we talk about them like the are rational adults. Your, quite frankly, disgusting and infantilizing parody insults the people you’re supposedly defending far more thoroughly than anyone else in this thread has. But we also talk about the children those pregnant women are carrying, who you like to either make invisible or deny outright, because it is much easier to oppress those you don’t acknowledge to begin with. But either way, every single time you segue into comments about ladyparts of any variety, you are failing to address the subject at hand.
I. Do. Not. Care. About. Your. Sex. Life. At all. I don’t care if you have sex with six men at once. I don’t care if you have sex with six women at once. I only care that you do not kill children, even if they aren’t yet born. That’s it. This is not complicated, this is not secret, this is not strange. This is something pro-lifers have been saying, over and over and over again, clearly and unambiguously, for years. Your hot sexy sex life is not germane to the conversation. In any way whatsoever.
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AnnaAnastasia,
To begin with, no one gave a fat flying about Rep.Brown’s vagina and the legislation had nothing to do with her vagina. It had to do with late term abortion and abortion clinic standards and licensing. But hey, you folks only support the strictest standards of care and efficiency in abortion clinics, right? You want licensing and regulation to protect women like we license and regulate veterinary clinics to protect the family pet, right? Wasn’t that what legal abortion was all about?
You know as well as I that if some male lawmaker thanked the ladies of the legislature for their interest in his penis you and other feminists would go ballistic. I mean, why shouldn’t the man be proud of his penis and talk about it? Why shouldn’t he thank the ladies of the legislature for their interest in it? Fair is fair, right?(Kindly refer to my June 6, 1:56PM post).
An anatomy lesson AA: Babies grow in the uterus, not the vagina. Babies in the uterus, not the vagina, are aborted.
Your heroine got censored for one day. BFD. If it had been a male lawmaker you and that crowd from NOW would be howling like banshees and demanding his resignation. After all wasn’t this whole “sexual harassment” crap about ”dirty” words and the complete “helplessness” of women? Well, maybe men find a woman discussing her vagina just as offensive. Fair is fair, ya think?
Do you have a problem with men supporting abortion and profiting from it? If not, then you should equally have no problem with men opposing it.
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I’m getting really frustrated at this point being necessary in every Lisa Brown conversation, but here it goes: SHE WAS NOT PUNISHED FOR SAYING VAGINA. She was punished for implying other lawmakers were interested in raping her by saying “no means no” after saying the now famous part.
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I really think the men of this blog should protest Anthony Weiner’s forced resignation.
I hope to see you and thousands of other men on the steps of the nation’s capital, protesting the congressman’s forced resignation.
I don’t know why subjecting thousands of people to discussions on vaginas should be considered any less offensive than sending out pictures of some knobby kneed guy in his undershorts to thousands of people. Fair is fair, and we should hear from you men. Why should you be any more ashamed of your anatomy than Lisa Brown and her fans?
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It is a sign of how desperate the choicers have become by their resorting to ever increasing levels of vulgarity in an attempt to gain attention for their sick cause.
Mary…lol on your 11:54 post. Point made.
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Half of those babies have vag…s. Just sayin’. Well, indirectly, anyway. ;)
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*slow clapping* Brava, Alice, Brava. Carry on.
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Sex goddess Jayne Mansfield was a strong opponent of abortion.
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The only person here talking about vaginas is you. The only person talking patronizingly about any of the women in the article is you. Literally the only person.
Unless you count the author, who is scandalized when adults use adult language to discuss body parts…or when adults use medically accurate language to discuss body parts. Not to mention the male legislators who specifically discuss regulating a woman’s anatomy and the health care it can receive, which women can’t discuss unless they agree.
Do pro-lifers talk about women? Yes. All the time. And when we call them out for missteps…
Scold, scold, scold like they’re children. How’s that working? Not well, so the next step is legislation, because those naughty gals just won’t see the error of their ways.
it is much easier to oppress those you don’t acknowledge to begin with.
…like the women who surround the uteruses you’re concerned with regulating.
I. Do. Not. Care. About. Your. Sex. Life. At all. I don’t care if you have sex with six men at once. I don’t care if you have sex with six women at once…This is something pro-lifers have been saying, over and over and over again, clearly and unambiguously, for years. Your hot sexy sex life is not germane to the conversation. In any way whatsoever.
Which is why the absolute first thing that ANY pro-pregnancy discussion group does when confronted with a women having an abortion is discuss her sex life. They slut-shame unmarried women who have consensual sex, making pregnancy part of the consequence of their “hot sexy sex life”. They have no sympathy for married women who have sex with their husbands, because what did they expect when they signed up for marriage and the sex that goes with it? And if they’re raped, well that’s a sad situation, because they didn’t do the bad deed and they’re being punished…and if they keep the pregnancy, they get big coverage on this and similar blogs as heroes, because they’re taking the punishment for being sluts without having committed the crime. (Or for some, it’s proof they weren’t raped, because pregnancy never happens from rape. Yeah, some of you do claim that.)
If you can find even ONE pro-pregnancy site that doesn’t devolve into “she should have kept her legs shut,” then you win a cookie.
You’re right about one thing – this legislation isn’t about sex. It’s about women’s health care. Why these men want to deny women from choosing their own health care because these men want to punish women for having sex is beyond me.
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Scold, scold, scold like they’re children. How’s that working? Not well, so the next step is legislation, because those naughty gals just won’t see the error of their ways.
Read my post a few more times and try again. Unless you think that adults never get told they are wrong, ever, in which case, someone needs to give you a good, solid reality check. Today. Because that is not the real world.
Which is why the absolute first thing…
Now, I love how, in your paragraph on how pro-lifers must be constantly carping about sex, you totally undermine your own argument. Yes, pregnancy can happen when you have sex. And yes, we do expect women who have had consensual sex to step up and take care of their children, at least to the point of giving birth to them and seeing them to a good family, if they are not ready to care for those kids on their own. And yes, we expect that whether the woman is married or not. And then, as you admit, even in a case of rape, where the woman didn’t choose to have sex, we’re still concerned with the fate of her child because trying to save children from abortion is the whole point of being pro-life. If pro-lifers were so worried about sex, that last little point–that you so neatly made for me–wouldn’t be the case. No one would care if rape victims got abortions, because they wouldn’t fit into your Sex = All Awful, All The Time paradigm. So, even though you try very hard not to admit it, you actually agree: pro-lifers don’t care about sex.
The only one here wanting to talk about sex is you. You keep bringing it up, as do most of your cronies (witness, the article under discussion), so its a discussion pro-lifers keep having to have. Usually in the, “No1curr!” vein (witness, everybody commenting on this thread). Find me a pro-life website that starts talking about sex when it isn’t a response to either a pro-abortion troll (like you) or a specific pro-abortion argument, and I’ll give you a cookie. Otherwise, I’ll be having mine now, thanks. I like chocolate chip. No nuts, please.
You’re right about one thing – this legislation isn’t about sex. It’s about women’s health care. Why these men want to deny women from choosing their own health care because these men want to punish women for having sex is beyond me.
After so clearly laying out, yourself, that pro-lifers are not concerned about your sex life, you have managed to conclude that opposing abortion must be about wanting to punish people for sex. From this, I can only conclude that you lack the ability to critically reason. How you can go so completely from extreme to extreme within the same post and not catch it is a feat of impressive mental gymnastics, and it’s making me dizzy. Despite admitting the “It’s about the kids!” you’re still haring off down the same bunny trail that McIntyre and Brown did in the first place! Clearly, you are incapable of responding to arguments concerning the unborn (not surprising, since you are busily trying to pretend they don’t exist). That being the case, since you have no ability to respond, you loose. Responding to any future comments from you would be counter-productive. Good day.
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The first thing that pro-aborts do is PREGNANCY-SHAME women. Oh, yes, because a child is a “punishment” and must die.
Abortion isn’t healthcare, especially not to the dead babies. The blood from a 20 week old gestating human being isn’t from the Halloween store, abortion fans. Abortion fans just use the “you hate my great sex” ruse because they can’t BEAR TO CONSIDER THE HUMAN BEING GROWING INSIDE A MOTHER. Yes, the mother had sex to conceive the human being (or, she paid someone to impregnate her via IVF then decided to kill the extra embryos she paid for but doesn’t want). Our concern is not with YOUR sex life, but with the future of the child’s life. Maybe if you get your own brain out of your own sex life for one tiny moment, you might consider that a 20 week old human feels excruciating pain when aborted, and I don’t care about a congresswoman’s anatomy. I care that we stop killing small humans because you don’t think they’re tall enough to ride the ride we call LIFE. Alice, your reply is awesome, but I am just so darn tired of abortion advocates own obsessions with the sex lives they wish we all cared about.
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It continues to impress me the lengths pro-choice folks go to keep from acknowledging that these tiny people do feel pain. Being torn apart by wild beasts and death by chemical burns should be relegated to the barbarism of yesteryear, but alas, it happens a couple thousand times a day in wombs all over this country.
It keeps me from sleeping sometimes, and the thought visits me when I wake up: How many tender little ones [read: fetus is Latin for ‘little one’, and it just sounds more clinical to use a word most people don’t know the meaning of] had to die this way in the last 24 hours, and how many more will have to suffer this today? It is absolutely overwhelming.
And in the face of that kind of horror, these folks expect us to take them and their little me-universes seriously? Really? It’s all some of us can do to maintain our composure and try to have what amounts to cool-headed, civilised conversation with you people, but since there are some of us who believe in your eternal souls and that you have value as image-bearers of God, we find ourselves in somewhat of a bind.
It’s easier for those non-religious folks who oppose abortion from a secular standpoint, and have nothing but good manners to keep them from cursing some of you like the dogs you are.
Much of Germany had exactly the same callous nonchalance some decades ago, even though the towns close to the death mills saw the smoke of their burning Every. Single. Day.
We react in horror when we hear of women being burned with acid. We recoil when we read of children being butchered by psychopathic monsters, and even the pro-choice folks among us would say that kind of behavior is brutal and monstrous and the perpetrators ought to be locked away forever or sent into eternity, or something similar.
But we rush to defend this when it happens in the womb, because it’s a basic human right to have control over your own body and to oppose patriarchy and all the rest of these pretenses at argument that pro-murder folks offer.
Really?
Interestingly, two pro-choice ethicists recently concluded that there is no significant difference between the newborn and the pre-born human. Lest you start to cheer, that means bad news for the newly born, because – from this perspective – they will have as many rights as their pre-born counterparts.
Which is why pro-life folks like myself so strongly advocate for life, humanity and basic human rights beginning at conception. There isn’t any fundamental difference between the newly-conceived, the toddler, the adult and the aged human being. Only in growth and maturity. Said another way, my DNA is mine at any point on the continuum, and I am me.
This protects everyone, and gives everyone value and dignity.
So I don’t care what you do with your body or your legs, but you might want to burn your tubes shut… whichever kind of tubes you happen to have.
I don’t frequent these forums much, I just kind of got to the point that years of being bothered by this came out, and I landed here in an effort to comfort myself that more people than I realize are doing something about it.
Yes, that’s a little difficult and awkward for me to read too; but as I mentioned beforehand, coherence can be a challenge for me at times.
Fight the good fight. God grant that we are able to end this horror that is perpetrated on these infants… or that he be pleased to extinguish us from the face of this earth.
Sincerely, etc.
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Sam is a lucky boy to have you for his mom.
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