Cher dare: “may god take my voice” if stops standing for abortion
Cher went on another Twitter rant this week, this time promoting abortion, contraception, and Planned Parenthood in her uniquely histrionic and foul-mouthed way.
Tweets are sometimes hard to decipher, as writers try to fit as much into the 140 character limit as possible.
But Cher’s tweets read more like hyper 13yo school girl meets illiteracy. Highlights (after removing unintended html language):
“Contraception is Illegal!”
“F*** THESE OLD WHITE MEN who couldnt laid WITH A FIST FULL OF HUNDREDS!”
“Guarantee if these old geezers gave birth there’d b contraception Machines every 50 ft! They’d be Cry “I was Raped ! U can’t expect me 2 have the Baby”yes M———-r we Can!”
“I no ur going 2say oh Cher another Rant!Yes it is! my god take my voice when I don’t stand up against injustice”
Well, wouldn’t that be interesting?
So here you go. Click to enlarge…
[HT: Andy at AbortionWiki.com]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
First things first.
Cher, what drugs were you on when you wrote this?
Also, you are worth millions. If you are so concerned about poor women, what is stopping you from donating some of your millions to PP?
When did contraception become illegal?
Well she didn’t capitalize God so we know she is not part of the family. On the one hand I hope God makes her mute just to get her attention. On the other hand, we’ve all shot our ignorant mouths off once or twice in our lives so I extend grace to her and I prayed for her to find Christ in a real and mighty way…so she can be a voice for injustice against the tiny people in the womb. “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves”. If she reads this I hope she looks that verse up and reads some more. God is calling Cher’s name I am certain of that. I pray she will open the door to real love and justice…his name is Jesus.
I was first introduced to Cher by the novel, Captain Underpants and the Perilous Plot of Professor Poopypants. The title character invents a jogging suit for gerbils, then builds an army. He gives each gerbil a tiny headset, causing them to become evil. At the end of the chapter, it is revealed that the headphones were playing Cher. Fortunately, it’s indicated that all animal cruelty was simulated and that no actual gerbils were forced to listen to Cher.
Just thought that would put things into perspective.
i like what Chris Daughtry wrote in his song ‘Home”:
“Be careful what you wish for ’cause you just might get it all, and then some you don’t want”
I wonder if her god already took one or more of her children [thru abortion], she’s blaming him and we’re seeing some misplaced anger. Just a thought …
In all fairness, I understand her concerns about women who are raped or who have suffered from incest. She is right to be upset for all women who have been victimized by such horrific acts. Yet, let’s put this all into perspective, 6 percent of the 42 million abortions are due to rape or incest and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
I think Cher has some valid concerns, yet Cher should look at the 93 percent who are not suffering from rape, incest and lower economics and who are using abortion as a form of birth control.
The facts are clear, women who have abortions are actually victimizing their own bodies and will often suffer the consequences of having an abortion years down the road. Not only that, they will live daily with the reality that they took the life of their very own child. I’ve read testimony after testimony of women who suffer with the sadness and guilt after having an abortion. There are other options that are right and good.
One last thing, I wonder how Cher feels about partial birth abortion (never ever should be allowed, ever) and how she justifies sucking the brains out of the head of a partially birthed ALIVE child, after all, that is the worst horrific barbaric brutality I can think of.
frebusmaxwell,
Yes. Chere has admitted to at least one abortion. That was (a few years) AFTER a miscarriage, too.
What a shame. I used to like Cher’s voice. I’m sure she’s going to miss it once God takes it. Hmm… then she’ll be just like the unborn. No voice. And maybe by then she’ll be more sympathetic to their silent cries. Maybe…
Sh’es just such a pitiful ignoramus and makes me wanna puke.
Incest is always mentioned as a hard case exception. But wasn’t the famous Cleopatra the result of several generations of incestuous brother-sister marriage?
I saw a young lady on a TV show. Her parents are brother and sister who live together as husband and wife. She said, “I know I’m normal” despite being a child of incest.
She rants about “old, white men”…
What about the “old white men” on the Supreme Court who made abortion legal ? What about the many “old white men” who PERFORM abortions that kill the babies and maim/kill/psychologically scar the mothers? What about the “old white men” who, alongside Margaret Sanger, STARTED Planned Parenthood in the first place???
Guess THOSE “old white men” are just so COOL ?
I would bet anything that if Cher’s father is still alive, he is an “old white man”.
i have absolutely no respect for this woman. i will not give her the time of day.
Pamela says:
August 11, 2012 at 2:09 pm
She rants about “old, white men”…What about the “old white men” on the Supreme Court who made abortion legal ? What about the many “old white men” who PERFORM abortions that kill the babies and maim/kill/psychologically scar the mothers? What about the “old white men” who, alongside Margaret Sanger, STARTED Planned Parenthood in the first place???Guess THOSE “old white men” are just so COOL ?
(Denise) It is often said that men aren’t entitled to opinions on this issue. But it was men who made the Roe v. Wade ruling.
Both men and women are divided on this issue. If all the men dropped out, there would still be controversy.
I never understand Hollywood types who own multiple mansions, expensive cars, expensive clothes, travel all over the world and eat at the most expensive restaurants on the planet and then whine that we tax-payers aren’t coughing up enough $ for all those poor women who need, NEED to kill their babies.
How bout putting your money where your mouth is Cher? you love abortion so much? YOU pay for them. Or even better why not foster poor women in crisis pregnancies so they can give birth to their babies and be able to raise them?
Senescence.
How about taking away her internet access? If she lost her voice she could still easily go on twitter rants.
Cher, you’ve suffered from dysmorphic disorder for years. Now your daughter is in such a bad case of it that she paid doctors to cut off her lady parts. When I saw you on Letterman years ago, your facial muscles could barely move, and you seemed to be struggling to make words. And we should listen to you when you extol the practice of destroying a healthy baby gestating in the womb of a healthy woman… sure…
You and your friends don’t really care about victims of crime. All you offer them is to kill their children and then send them back to their own lives, where some of them are re-victimized by their abusers. You don’t care about their day-to-day lives.
I saw an old photo of you holding your daughter when she was a toddler. You both had your own faces and bodies, both born beautiful. It made me so sad.
@ ninek: Aside from outlawing abortion, what do you believe should be done to decrease sex crimes?
I know that you probably agree with someone who wrote an essay asserting that, yes, he would legally force raped women to bear and give birth to the babies of their attackers. The child is innocent and suffering through an extended ordeal still leaves the raped woman alive.
There is a sense in which this does benefit rapists: it means that men can use force to get their genetic material back into the system. They don’t require female permission to reproduce. However, you probably also support tough laws putting rapists in prison for long terms (which we have now) so it balances out.
Pamela: You forgot to mention the old white men that Margaret Sanger rubbed shoulders with at the Ku Klux Klan rallies she attended.
Hi Sweet Marmot 8:17PM
And it should be remembered that the white men of the KKK were Democrats as only Democrats could be in the KKK. I wonder if Cher and the Democrat supporters in Hollywood know that historic tidbit.
Chastidy Bono has her father’s eyes and Cher’s dysfunction.
Cher Bono, another democRAT wart on women.
frebusmaxwell says: August 11, 2012 at 11:18 am
“I wonder if her god already took one or more of her children [thru abortion], she’s blaming him and we’re seeing some misplaced anger.”
As far as I know Cher only has one surviving child, a daughter name Chastity.
Cher offerred Chasitity up to the spirits of this age and they took Chastity captive.
Cher is obviously angry.
She keeps kicking herself in the ‘obama’ and then complains about the self induced pain in her bony buttocks.
Cher is experiencing an acute and chronic break with reality. Her lucid moments are fewer and father between.
Cher, Madonna, Lady Gag Gag and Yoko Oh No should go on tour together.
It would sound like a bunch of Siamese cats in estus.
Hmmmmmm. Hollywood can sure churn up some bitter, old hags.
Ken, Cher had two children, the second is Allman’s son, Elijah.
Sweet Marmot,
No, I didn’t. The KKK ARE some of the eugenicists she partnered with to form PP.
At the end of the day, after her insipid rants, what has she got ?
Lots of money, too much time on her hands, a totally screwed up face, a daughter that’s as messed up as can be, and a career that’s basically over…not to mention a LOT of anger.
Sad. Just very sad.
It’s right to be concerned for victims of a crime as horrific as rape or adult-child incest. I would be worried about someone who isn’t. But it’s wrong to kill an innocent human being, even if it might somehow reduce the rape victim’s suffering (physically or mentally).
The fraction of abortions due to rape is also more like 1%:
http://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378%2896%2970141-2/abstract
“she keeps kicking herself in the obama”
LOL, Ken, may I borrow this?
She is so mis-named There’s nothing “dear” about her.
Navi says:
August 12, 2012 at 1:32 am
It’s right to be concerned for victims of a crime as horrific as rape or adult-child incest. I would be worried about someone who isn’t. But it’s wrong to kill an innocent human being, even if it might somehow reduce the rape victim’s suffering (physically or mentally).
(Denise) When a girl reaches puberty, do you believe it is a good idea to at least DISCUSS her going on contraceptives to prevent a pregnancy in case she is raped?
I have heard that if a female immediately reports a rape, steps are taken to PREVENT (not abort) pregnancy. What can be done to encourage immediate reporting?
Of course, we need to work to prevent sex crimes themselves. That is a more complex and knotty issue. To a large extent, it means being concerned with the sort of childhoods people have since abused and mistreated boys are far more likely to become rapists than those who are raised in environments of love and acceptance.
We also need to be concerned about treatment for sex offenders.
Cher,
Hopefully God will do the human race a great service and take your voice.
Denise – would you, when your child turned 16 discuss with him/her the idea of not getting his/her driver’s license because people can die in a car accident?
Birth control – the ingesting of hormones to trick the body into thinking it is pregnant, is not a benign thing to do. Birth control pills have been rated a number 1 carcinogenic by the United Nations. Would you do that to your daughter…just because she may be raped?
Maybe you would put all men on salt peter so that they would never get an erection … just in case a few of them might be sex offenders.
For the “hard cases” I would recommend the book “Victims and Victors”, and also the common observation that rapists/molesters tend to be the ones coercing and funding their victims’ abortions.
But more on topic, I am vaguely curious as to the immediate trigger of Cher’s outburst. Is it just because she doesn’t like the latest political candidates? o_0
Used to be that entertainers were the scum of the earth that noone listened to. Just shows you how dumbed down our society has become even after spending trilllions on the NEA.
Now this is a woman who thought it appropriate to wear a stage costume which basically revealed her genitals o the world and who has a duaghter who thinks she is a man. Cher’s is today’s embodiment of “liberal enlightenment”. Is there any wonder whatsoever why the world is in deep, deep trouble.
Yes, it’s time to pray for Cher and the misguided, hellbound world she has been deceived by.
Have mercy on us sweet Jesus.
Lee says:
August 12, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Denise – would you, when your child turned 16 discuss with him/her the idea ofnot getting his/her driver’s license because people can die in a car accident?>>
(Denise) As a matter of fact, I think society should be structured so that the automobile is a convenience rather than a necessity. I would ask the kid to think about options. I wouldn’t actively discourage pursuit of a driver’s license but would hope they would consider if he or she is likely to be a good, safe driver and ways to ensure safe driving.
<<Birth control – the ingesting of hormones to trick the body into thinking it is pregnant, is not a benign thing to do. Birth control pills have been rated a number 1 carcinogenic by the United Nations. Would you do that to your daughter…just because she may be raped? >>
(Denise) I would want to talk to her about what she would do if she were raped. Would she want to carry the pregnancy to term and give birth?
If she believed it likely she would abort a pregnancy through rape, would she want to be on contraception so as to minimize the chances of getting pregnant if she were raped?
I don’t want abortion. I want prevention.
Maybe you would put all men on salt peter so that they would never get an erection … just in case a few of them might be sex offenders.
(Denise) Suppose the girl told you she believed she would abort a pregnancy if she were raped. Then would you discuss contraception with her?
Or would you accept that if impregnated by a rapist she would abort?
Violet says:
August 12, 2012 at 11:53 pm
For the “hard cases” I would recommend the book “Victims and Victors”, and also the common observation that rapists/molesters tend to be the ones coercing and funding their victims’ abortions.
(Denise) Do you think the example of Cleopatra is relevant? She was the result of several generations of brother-sister incest. Of that of the little girl interviewed on Sally Jessie Raphael’s program? Her parents were an adult brother and sister who lived together as husband and wife. The girl said, “I know I’m normal” even though she is the product of consensual adult incest.
Her movie “Mask” was wonderful. She was awarded for playing the loving, devoted mom of a high-school kid with a genetic disorder giving him a deformity similar to the “elephant man.” The movie was based on a true story.
Would Cher support the actual mom aborting the son, if the genetic defect were detected prenatally?
Cher’s mom had financial difficulties and actually placed Cher, in her childhood, in foster care since mom could not provide for Cher.
Would Cher be OK with her mom aborting her because the marriage was not stable enough, and this future financial difficulty was likely?
This is a statement from Cher during an interview, ”My mother told me once about how she got pregnant with me and didn’t want to be with my dad; she was just so young and inexperienced. My grandmother said, ‘You have a bright future.’ She actually suggested an abortion, so my mom was in the doctor’s office—a back-alley doctor—getting on the table. And then at the last minute she said, ‘I can’t do this. I don’t care what happens—I can’t do this.’ ”
You would sure think Cher would be prolife.
Praxedes says:
August 13, 2012 at 12:28 pm
This is a statement from Cher during an interview, ”My mother told me once about how she got pregnant with me and didn’t want to be with my dad; she was just so young and inexperienced. My grandmother said, ‘You have a bright future.’ She actually suggested an abortion, so my mom was in the doctor’s office—a back-alley doctor—getting on the table. And then at the last minute she said, ‘I can’t do this. I don’t care what happens—I can’t do this.’ ”
You would sure think Cher would be prolife.
(Denise) You might think that of a baby born in the charity ward of a Los Angeles hospital. Little Norma Jeane Mortenson was the daughter of a mentally disturbed single mother who spent time in and out of mental institutions. The little girl was often in foster care.
Yet Marilyn Monroe, as she came to be known to the world, had abortion after abortion as a struggling starlet.
When success came and a yearning for motherhood — within marriage and wealth — she suffered miscarriage after miscarriage.
Actually, only around one percent of abortions follow a conception by rape or incest. With that out of the way, if Cher seriously thinks contraception is “illegal” then she has so little contact with reality that I’m just sad for her. If her issue is that “old white men who can’t give birth” are in charge, why isn’t she backing a childbearing-age woman such as Sarah Palin? And in case her math is as faulty as her civics, spelling, grammar and current events, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney are probably both younger than she is. So is George W. Bush. One of my earliest childhood memories involves watching Sonny and Cher, and I’m pro-life. If she didn’t get the bulletin that young and mid-adulthood women tend to be pro-life, then I’d say she’s worth ignoring. On the other hand, if she loses her voice, maybe that will force her to learn to write intelligibly.
Cher, channel some of those millions into programs to prevent sexual abuse!
Also channel them into programs designed to decrease partnered sexual activity.
I honestly feel all who’ve written here have three brain cells collectively to rub together. No one is pro-abortion, as the lead of this article suggests. Cher is not “promoting” abortion…she merely (as most of us do) feels womens rights are at stake. Is she vocal? Yup..as far as I can remember she always has been. Does she care what any of you think? Absolutely not. Freedom of speech people… but you have all stooped to hateful comments about her transgendered child and her plastic surgery. Meanwhile, she is more philanthropic than most celebrities combined, although mainstream media doesnt know about that. So sad that the religious right can be so hateful and disengaged. You make organized religion seem so unappealing….Jesus name being used for hatred against others. Ah SOOO Christian. Wake up and smell the universe.
Denise – just because I would not put a daughter of mine on hormones in case she was raped, does not mean that I would not discuss birth control with her. I would tell her exactly what birth control does to a woman’s body and let her decide if she would want to risk the chance of breast cancer as well as mess with her body’s fertility down the line.
What is the chance of a woman being raped? If it is ten percent or even twenty percent, then why would 100 % of girls need to be on hormones?
Having worked with, and continuing to work with women who have aborted their children, I would discuss with my daughter the fact that when she is pregnant – when ANY woman is pregnant, there is another, unique life within her.
IF she was impregnated through a rape situation, I would do my best to support her – but I would never, ever, suggest or support an abortion. IF she were to have an abortion, I would continue to love her and try my best to help her pick up the pieces with the knowledge that she has to live with the fact that she terminated another human being’s life.
As far as preventing rapes or sexual abuse – why should a woman defend herself by going on birth control in case she may be raped. That is nonsense.
Marco – you are assuming that those who are writing their opinions are all part of organized religion. Are you sure they are?
Or are you using your assumption to avoid Jesus in a church?
Marco,
I’m not religious, so I’d be happy to tell her any of this to her face. I actually responded to one of these tweets of hers on my twitter account. She didn’t type back. :(
I told her if she wants to fight injustice, and speak out for those who cannot speak for themselves, she should start with gestating children in the womb.
@ Lee: do you think there is any fertile woman who, immediately after having been the victim of a brutal sexual attack, is NOT SCARED that she could be pregnant as result?
Do you think there is any fertile woman who, immediately after having been the victim of a brutal sexual attack, would not be glad that she is on contraception?
Do you believe that a girl or woman who has been raped is EVER DISAPPOINTED when she gets her menstrual period and realizes the rapist did not impregnate her?
I have a close friend who is a liberal. He doesn’t believe abortion should be outlawed. However, he agrees with you that the chances of being raped don’t justify having a girl or woman who is not engaging in “regular” partnered sex on contraception. ”The solution to that is the morning after pill,” he says. Would you support a raped daughter taking the morning after pill?
I’ve told the story before but I’ll tell it again. A woman in the midst of an attack pleaded, “Please talk to me awhile first so I’ll at least know you’re human.” They conversed. She couldn’t persuade him not to rape her. But he raped her in a manner that would not impregnate. That was no great favor or display of humanitarianism. It was still rape. But she was glad that she did not have to worry about being pregnant as a result of this horrible incident. I think that is a perfectly normal reaction.
Denise – I get the feeling that you are arguing just to argue. Of course, any woman, after being the victim of a brutal assault would not want to be reminded of that result, whether it be through a subsequent pregnancy or any physical wounds that she may have sustained.
I am sorry that you cannot see my point in that using the pill as a prophylactic for rape is utter nonsense.
As far as the after rape pill – if a child has been conceived through a rape, it is because God willed that child into existence and I dare not question His love for that child, or for me.
That you think it is the best way to deal with rape, is fine. I don’t and that is also fine. I do not agree to disagree on this matter – I simply have a very different opinion than yours.
Lee
My comment wasnt directed toward organized religion. Am I avoiding Jesus in church?? Goodness no. Has the religious right lost its touch with American values?? Hmmm. I miss the good old days when people got along and didnt say such hateful things in the name of God and/or the bible. There will always be pro-lifers. Always have been. There will always be pro-choice people as well…again…always have been. It seems though that we are so much more polarized than ever… and the hate rhetoric is completely out of hand. Its just sad. I wish one day I’ll open one of these links and find loving workds and kindness. Hasnt happened in a long time and I’ve had it…hence my original note here. Is it fair that Chers transgendered child is talked about like a demon here while people like Rush Limbaugh spew hate DAILY. Of course not. Just wish more people would find a place in their heart to stop hating. Period. No more… No less. Im just a simple man with a good heart. If there is a God Im sure he’s rolling His eyes at all the people who use His name for hatred and the bible as their tool. Just horrible.
Separation of church and state. It works. Just wish the T-baggers would figure that out.
Lee says:
August 15, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Denise – I get the feeling that you are arguing just to argue. Of course, any woman, after being the victim of a brutal assault would not want to be reminded of that result, whether it be through a subsequent pregnancy or any physical wounds that she may have sustained.
I am sorry that you cannot see my point in that using the pill as a prophylactic for rape is utter nonsense.
As far as the after rape pill – if a child has been conceived through a rape, it is because God willed that child into existence and I dare not question His love for that child, or for me.
(Denise) Suppose you could be certain that the Morning After Pill only worked by PREVENTING conception. For example, this could be by preventing ovulation. There is no zygote in place. The Pill prevents an egg from BEING FERTILIZED. Would that be acceptable?
I understand and respect the position that girls and women must be forced to carry pregnancies to term after they have begun.
I cannot respect a position that says we can’t try to PREVENT a raped girl or woman from BECOMING pregnant in the first place.
@Lee: I’m not “just arguing to argue.” One reason I’m so repulsed by the attitude that we shouldn’t even try to PREVENT rape victims from BECOMING pregnant — as opposed to forcing them to carry to term if already pregnant — is that it really does in some sense take the side of the rapist. Much of human behavior is ultimately about attempting to continue one’s line, to return the genetic material to the system. If no help is given or attempt made to prevent rape victims from getting pregnant, then rape is an effective way for rapists to get their genetic material back into the system, creating progeny and descendants.
Denise – really? You believe that a child of a rapist will be a sex offender? That is an interesting observation. There is a woman, Pam Stengel, who is a product of rape – she is a wonderful pro-life speaker and I don’t think she is a sexual predator. Should her life have been terminated because her father was a rapist? I think she would disagree with your premise. Her husband and children might also disagree with you.
You write “forcing them to carry to term if they are already pregnant”. Well, if they are already pregnant, then the morning after pill will definitely kill a child. I am opposed to abortion in any form.
Ingesting hormones from the time a girl first starts her menses until she is into menopause will give her a higher chance of becoming a cancer statistic; much higher than a rape victim.
Marco – there has always been a hatred against evil; as there should be. Christians are called upon to hate evil, but not hate the evil doer.
I did not see where Rush L. or the T-party writing on this thread. Nor anyone on this thread showing any hatred against Chasity Bono. I did see where they wrote that she had her breasts removed in order to become a man…which is really a very sad thing.
I hate abortions … HATE them, but I pray for those who have them, pray for those who perform them and pray for an end to them. When you write pro-choice, you are perpetuating the myth that abortion is a morally neutral choice – have one or not have one, but if you do have one, I am supportive of your “choice.”
As such I disdain the words – pro-choice – as it is cowardly and morally wrong. The choice should always be LIFE, no matter how difficult. There is not a one of us in this life that gets out of here without any scarring.
Having written that, I will disclose that I have had an abortion. The abortion was morally wrong and cowardly. I am not morally wrong nor cowardly … the abortion was. I will always speak out against abortion and the use of the euphemism, “choice”. My speaking out is not hate speech – it is speaking out in truth and giving people information to understand that abortion is not a morally neutral “choice.”
Today, three thousand babies in the United States died because most people do not understand that “choice” is death to a baby. It is the most preventable death in the United States – and it is evil.
Lee says:
August 15, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Denise – really? You believe that a child of a rapist will be a sex offender? That is an interesting observation. >>
(Denise) I didn’t say that. All I said was the child of a rape is the rapist’s child. So are children the rapist sired through voluntary sex. What I am saying is that if you oppose efforts to PREVENT a rape victim from becoming pregnant, you are ensuring that rapists can use force to make children and descendants. That doesn’t mean those children are in any sense cursed. It just means that rapists can rape to make babies unless measures are taken to PREVENT their victims from BECOMING PREGNANT. Of course, another way that prevents them from having babies through rape is to permit the victim to abort but I understand why you rule that out. To rule out a means to PREVENT the victim from becoming pregnant strikes me as barbaric and immoral.
<<There is a woman, Pam Stengel, who is a product of rape – she is a wonderful pro-life speaker and I don’t think she is a sexual predator. Should her life have been terminated because her father was a rapist?>>
(Denise) That is not my argument. I’m not saying children of rape are predators, only that by ruling out any means to prevent victims from becoming pregnant, you ensure that rapists can in fact father children through rape.
<<I think she would disagree with your premise. Her husband and children might also disagree with you.
You write “forcing them to carry to term if they are already pregnant”. Well, if they are already pregnant, then the morning after pill will definitely kill a child. I am opposed to abortion in any form.>>
(Denise) IF there was a treatment that only PREVENTED pregnancy, would you support a rape victim getting THAT treatment?
Hypocrisy as usual. Marco comes here telling of us of his perception that we are spewing hatred and then uses “t-baggers.” Maybe he meant t-ballers? Dunno. BTW, I use the term “proabortion,” which is the truth. Ah, that freedom of speech! I can call you what I want. Prolife is the way to be!